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Dear All
I am very disattisfied from WM05 compares to my (XDA) WM03. I wish you can share some suggestions and advices.
PROBLEMS with Wizard T-mobile Vario (=Qteck 9100) and Windows Mobile 2005, version 2.17WWE:
1. Memory limitations:
Only 47 MB of Storage and only 44 MB for Program! Total 91MB
At startup, after hard reset, even with pressing soft reset within 3 secs, you have no more that 25MB of storage and 30MB of Program, very little!
It should be 128MB ram to 64MB rom, totale 192MB
Not only we are missing 101MB, what is worst is that the new OS don't let you allocate RAM or ROM
In my case some application (for example Chinese fonts) are heavy (8MB) and cannot be installed on mini-SD card. Simply you cannot choose, they install in main memory.
After a minium batch of required software are installed I end up with a super slow machine, with just 11MB Storage memory and 16MB Program memory
2. Memory cannot be re-allocated
I would be more that glad to get rid of most native applications (like intellidial, skype, etc). But it seems NOT possible.
Nobody was able to cook External ROM
3. TotalCommander
Even cooking external rom, what benefit?
By using TotalCommander it seems that cab istalled to external rom are very little in size.
So my question again: where is all the 192 memory gone? Who uses it, which programs? How can the OS be so large?
4. MS Contacts Problem
If you filter by using categories, the filter is NOT retained!
In wm03 it was (until next software reset, of course).
I mean if you filter using "business" categories, then you (without soft resetting) make calls, or do something else, at next time the filter is gone. You must re-select it
5. Installing application with Active Sync
Very funny: I have tested all my apps and they are ALL compatible with WM05. Also the software house confirmed to me.
Now look at Spb Backup V1.1.2. It is compatible to wm05, right?
Or Lingvosoft dictionaries 2006
Or Slovoed Dictionaries 2006
These sfw are fully compatible and in fact no problem with them.
But if you run low in memory (for example Storage free 15MB and Program free 16MB, like now) what happens is:
5.1 either the program install and then NOTHING appears in startup memu. Simply they are not there, even if no error messages appear.
or
5.2 the desktop active synct installation sees that your internal memory is too short and ask you where to install. You choose STORAGE CARD and INVARIABLY AFTER INSTALLATION THE RESULT IS: INSTALLATION IS UNSYCCESFUL!
Then you can free memory or erase previous software: YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO INSTALL THE FAILED APPS ANYMORE!, UNTIL YOU MAKE A FRESH HARD RESET.
After a fresh hard reset the application can be installaed without problem!
CONCLUSION: IF ACTIVE SYNC ASKS YOU WHERE TO INSTALL, THEN SURELY THE INSTALLATION WILL ABORT.
5.3 Active sync DOES not ask where to install the application.
The installation completes and then a message says: installation unsuccessful, because it WAS NOT digitally signed!?!
If this is the case, NO WAY to install the application, until next HARD RESET
After hard reset, the application may install and work flawlessy!
6. Installing application from mini-SD card
I tried with TomTom 5.21
Don't even start!
7. Zone Alarm
I still have to shut down Zone Alarm 6.1.744 in order to Active Sync to sync with Wizard. No way to accept the virtual LAN network. Do you know a solution?
8. OmapClock
how yo make omapclock to retain the new speed (say 240MHz)?
Sometime it will retain. Sometime after few minutes the speed reverts to 180MHz. I did not make any soft reset in between.
Please let me have your suggestions on some of these strange behaviours
Thanks and waiting
saulo866
any suggestions? Any solutions to these problems I mentioned?
I am c0nsidering to sell out my Wizard with WINDOWS MOBILE 2005, and look for an older WM03 model
Thanks a lot
Saulo
Memory problems: The whole concept of Storage and Program memory is removed in WM5, so most of your moans about memory are not valid when applied to WM5 - especially the part about allocating memory between storage and programs. Basically, now you have RAM, and Storage space - they are seperate, and unrelated. I suggest you read up on this major change in WM5.
4. True - a minor niggle though, in my opinion.
5. When I install by ActiveSync, I do not get asked by AS where I want to install the program (that's a WM03 thing) - I get asked by the device where I want to install it - and it either installs it in \Program Files or \Storage Card\Program Files - which is a major benefit, because before, if I wanted to install to Storage Card, it would often install just in the root of the card, which was invariably messy.
My suggestion to you is to keep a good chunk of your phone storage free so that the .cab files can be copied to the phone in the first place, from there you can decide where to install the program to. I can't believe you have that many programs filling up your phone storage that can't be moved to the storage card.
6. TomTom is a pile of nonsense, which was obviously programmed by idiots. It requires a number of hard-coded paths to be present. Install it to your phone, and the maps to the card, and leave it as it is, and you'll have no problems.
7. Add the ActiveSync network to your Trusted Zone, and make sure the 3 ActiveSync programs have full control in the Program Control section. See the MS website for more info.
8. Dare I say it, RTFM. There is a MASSIVE thread on OmapClock, where I'm sure you downloaded the program from in the first place. Try reading it before asking the same question that's been asked numerous times before.
saulo866 said:
8. OmapClock
how yo make omapclock to retain the new speed (say 240MHz)?
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Search for "SmartSKey". Freeware. Works great together with OmapClock and does what you want. By switching the device on, it works with e.g. 252 MHz. Switching off = fallback to lower MHz. Great piece of software!
thanks to all for your kind ideas...
Any more suggestions?
Saulo
I suggest you sell your WM5 device and go back to WM2003. It seems most of your issues aren't really issues. I agree, RTFM.
Does anyone know how to:
1. make CC and BCC fields appear in TEXT messages? (SMS)
I found no hint in help file...
2. How to make filter on categories persistent? At the moment when you select filter, on, say, BUSINESS or FRIENDS, the filter disappear after you change focus on aother apps
Thanks and waiting
Saulo866
Hi there!
For more than a year i am using a MDA II / Himalaya 8) . Since I dislike Telekom-Stuff I used ER2003 to edit my own ROM, which contains the most important wares (CABs) to install on reset, but also a couple of tools, which need to be available without SD-Card.
For example, Skype is such a tool - and a quite huge one indeed - which I put into ROM (as executable, not CAB), so I don't need to spend a couple of MBs for the installation plus for the running software.
Due to the higher processor speed and the built-in-WiFi (I am using an SD-WLAN at the moment, which is the reason for Skype in ROM - although the ROM space wasn't sufficient for AvantGo in addition) I am thinking of a change to Alpine / XDA IIi / QTek 2020i now.
Since I am quite happy about my actual configuration, I wonder if there's a possibility to edit a ROM for Alpine, too. I could only find the "stripped O2"-ROMs by Rup.
Or does the necessity for a ROM not even exist, since all the "freed" space in this ROM-edition is available "RAM-like"?!? :shock:
Hi,
Please forgive me for my ignorance, I am new to the 'flashing' field and PPC's in general, and I won't ever know unless I ask.
What is the point of the extended ROM, and what is the point of 'unhiding' it? Like why should one do it? What's the benefit? What can one do with it?
Thanks
The extended ROM is about 10Mb of memory used by the carriers for configuration / customisation information. It is usually programmed to autorun after a hard reset so that the customisation files in there can be processed first. For example, with O2 UK, the customisation puts in the GPRS/3G/locale settings, makes the Uni look pretty (if you don't use corporate mode) at the expense of it being very slow indeed!
If you empty the extended ROM, you then have 10Mb which you can use for storage / running progs. I run TomTom 6 and various other key apps from there with no difficulties.
The only downsides are if for some reason you need some particular form of customisation installed by your carrier. I have happily dispensed with all of the O2 customisation and all I have to do when I hard reset (after a new ROM) is to reinstall the O2 GPRS/MMS settings, which takes about thirty seconds.
If you do empty the extended ROM, bear in mind that it will be re-locked whenever you change the main ROM so you will need to unlock it again. Also, one of the unlocking progs around also wipes the Extended ROM - there is another (which you will find somewhere on this site) which only unlocks it.
Hope that helps. I think that pretty much covers it! Ask if there's anything else.
ahhhh I c...ok...great...thanks
apd said:
The extended ROM is about 10Mb of memory used by the carriers for configuration / customisation information. It is usually programmed to autorun after a hard reset so that the customisation files in there can be processed first. For example, with O2 UK, the customisation puts in the GPRS/3G/locale settings, makes the Uni look pretty (if you don't use corporate mode) at the expense of it being very slow indeed!
If you empty the extended ROM, you then have 10Mb which you can use for storage / running progs. I run TomTom 6 and various other key apps from there with no difficulties.
The only downsides are if for some reason you need some particular form of customisation installed by your carrier. I have happily dispensed with all of the O2 customisation and all I have to do when I hard reset (after a new ROM) is to reinstall the O2 GPRS/MMS settings, which takes about thirty seconds.
If you do empty the extended ROM, bear in mind that it will be re-locked whenever you change the main ROM so you will need to unlock it again. Also, one of the unlocking progs around also wipes the Extended ROM - there is another (which you will find somewhere on this site) which only unlocks it.
Hope that helps. I think that pretty much covers it! Ask if there's anything else.
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Nicely explained. You can also use the extended rom to save your internet cache. if you browse the net often you will find the cache file keeps increasing in size and occupies useful device storage space. If you relocate the cache file to storage card, browsing slows down so Extended rom is indeed the prefered location for PIE cache.
Hello! Me and a friend of mine just purchased the tmobile wings....i upgraded from the dash and him from the horrible SDA....well so far this is what we have done.
HTC Homescreen plugin + homescreen edit
Slide to UL (AC)
Iphone Window Theme
HTC Audiomanager
P Browser
TCPMP + Flash Video Software that allows utube among other sites -=)
Changed sliding keyboard sounds
Vtap (also allows utube, but tcpmp is the shat)
PSShtuXP
Icontacts
Pocket CM ( I don't have this anymore)
Overclocked to 247MHZ (not really sure what overclocking is, but hey most of you on here have done it, so why not)
We have both kept WM6 because it seems like Touch Flo still has editing, and i am attached to the microsoft voice sync program.
So all in all just making myself known on the forum, thanks again for turning my wing not only into a greater phone but now I want to call this isht a Tmobile Jet Wing.
I still don't understand some terms, don't know what flashing is, and wanted to know what other programs we could add to make our device function even better.
Is there a way to upgrade device storage? It seems to be my only concern. Thanks again.
Batman
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TMO WING WM6 + Upgrades
NOW MY OWN TMO JET WING
Awesome. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask ... but please be sure to look through the forums first in order to answer most of your questions.
Flashing is installing a new operating system on your phone ... so think of it like taking Windows XP off of your computer, and installing Windows VISTA on your computer.
You should run the Quick Page Pool changer to get more device storage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324955
Cool, i try to read as much info as possible before posting...so yeah ive read the newb's guide and all the links within...thanks i will try to pagepool again...lastime didn't work...but ill try hopefully this is a better file.
directions are sort of...or reall fuzzy for installation..so i am really confused...any other helpful links on this?
all you have to do ....
-connect your phone via activesync
-copy the EnableRapi.cab file over to your phone
-thru your phone's file explorer, find the EnableRap.cab file, and run it.
-SOFT RESET
-connect your phone to activesync again, and run the batch file for the pagepool size you want to have (4, 6, 8, etc...)
-Reset again
and voila, you should have the new pagepool settings now.
think i did it lol.....how much space should i have?
Stock memory settings were the following on my Wing
Storage
39.44
8.09
31.35
Program
43.87
32.20
11.67
duprade said:
Stock memory settings were the following on my Wing
Storage
39.44
8.09
31.35
Program
43.87
32.20
11.67
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11.6 MB free RAM after page pool fix??? that's way too low buddy. which page pool setting are u using? 4,6,or 8? but then again, is that on idle, or did you were running some other application on the background?
I remembered when i first found out about the pagepool fix, I was able to get 21 MB free ram on start up and running around 18-19 on idle. (i was running the 6 MB pool setup)
Now, i flashed my wing with Touch IT ROM v2.3 and i get 25 MB free RAM at start up and 20-22 on idle.
as I wrote on there .. those the STOCK memory settings ... meaning from a factory wing.
So obviously, you look at the stock settings, and compare them to the settings you see after running the pagepool app.
Since the Ozone Rom is only on one carrier, we should put together a list of items to include/exclude
Exclude:
Get Applications
Getting started
Modem Link
Remote Desktop
Visual Voice Mail
Mobile IM
Mobile Email
VZ Navigator
Include
WMWifiRouter
Thoughts?
Definately exclude all the bloatware from Verizon.
Including Google Maps, Microsoft MyPhone (Not sure if it is in 6.5 by default or not?), and maybe a few games that are good on standard. I also use Facebook, but that is a little more specialty along with Opera.
Lets get some ROMs cooking! I miss 6.5 on my Touch and can't wait to get it on my Ozone.
include :
-winmo 6.5 - A MUST!
-soft reset
-light dimmer
-titanium panels ( YUM YUM )
-custom graphics all around..icons, battery, signal..etc etc
-text msgs retry ( i actually like it )
-Net C.F. 3.5
-Skyfire
-mp3 trimmer
ur exclude list is perfecto!
as i think of more, ill def post in here!
I'd honestly like a rom with as little as possible added in.. I want to be able to install only the programs I would like. Kinda like a fresh install of windows desktop.
But in all honesty, I will be happy and will put in some donations to whomever creates a nice rom.
That exclude list is indeed perfect.
Perhaps it would be best to keep the essentials to the ROM that need to run from the main memory. Programs like google maps, youtube, facebook, and such can be added per the users discretion. Typically, I install all potentially heavy memory programs to the storage card.
1. Obviously WinMo 6.5 and all of its customizations.
2. I would like to see IE6 cache moved to the Storage Card.
3. An upgrade to Mobile Office (create new documents and copy and paste). Not sure if that is possible. Alternative would be adding Documents to Go.
4. Internet Sharing or WMWifiRouter.
5. Total Commander or Resco Explorer.
6. PHM Registry Editor.
7. Soft Reset Button.
To me, that would be the basics. Anything else could be added by the user later to their particular needs.
I'd like to keep:
**Visual Voicemail
**Remote Desktop
**Quick GPS
Internet Sharing
HTC Audio Booster (a more universal equalizer would be better though, not something just shackled to the headset)
Office Mobile w/ OneNote
the current Com Manager skin (its nice, but hey, as long as the new one is functional, I won't complain any)
MP3 Trimmer
Speed Dial
HTC Voice Recorder
HTC Video Recorder
HTC Camera
I'd like to see added:
Talk2Me (if it's leaked yet?) OR
one of the standard Voice Command apps (MSFT or Cyberon)
Total Commander
Skyfire
Windows Live w/ Messenger
MSFT MyPhone
Advanced Config
dotfred task manager (is there a smartphone friendly version?)
I'm a ROM purist, so I only like barebone stuff in my ROMs. Keeping it simple, stupid. Lol.
Does anyone know if these apps can be updated once they're written to the ROM? Or would we have to reflash the new versions? In my experience cooked versions of Windows Live have been unable to propperly update since the program core files are R/O.
Good luck figuring out the GSM/CDMA probs ookba. Delicious chicken dinners coming your way once I'm running your 6.5 masterpiece.
Can Internet Sharing (ICS) be added to the Comm Manager?
I'd had to agree with the majority on the bare rom thing. As a person without vision (only light perception), the less visuals included, the better. I'd also add USB to PC to the list of inclusions though, as it's a nice app.
Also, I cna't seem to be able to run comm manager - it doesn't open and I don't get why. ODD. Maybe my screen reader is not letting it open?
Regardless... Customization can in deed be added in later, and you could provide links to websites with the tools for customizing.
Good luck!
-Tomi
include:
generally speaking phone hosted software... im sick of getting roms that require me to use/have a data plan... where i come from data as an add on is ridiculously expensive.. try $100/month++ for the most basic phone package with basic data
voice recorder
gps test 1.04
pim backup (or something like it)
resco explorer
all the google maps stuff etc can be downloaded easily
or can be offered on a "WITH DATA" rom
Make sure ##778# and ##3424# works on the new roms....