Possibility of own ROM cooking (like Himalaya/2020/MDA2)? - PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i Software Upgrading

Hi there!
For more than a year i am using a MDA II / Himalaya 8) . Since I dislike Telekom-Stuff I used ER2003 to edit my own ROM, which contains the most important wares (CABs) to install on reset, but also a couple of tools, which need to be available without SD-Card.
For example, Skype is such a tool - and a quite huge one indeed - which I put into ROM (as executable, not CAB), so I don't need to spend a couple of MBs for the installation plus for the running software.
Due to the higher processor speed and the built-in-WiFi (I am using an SD-WLAN at the moment, which is the reason for Skype in ROM - although the ROM space wasn't sufficient for AvantGo in addition) I am thinking of a change to Alpine / XDA IIi / QTek 2020i now.
Since I am quite happy about my actual configuration, I wonder if there's a possibility to edit a ROM for Alpine, too. I could only find the "stripped O2"-ROMs by Rup.
Or does the necessity for a ROM not even exist, since all the "freed" space in this ROM-edition is available "RAM-like"?!? :shock:

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Perhaps a stupid question: why should I upgrade?!

Hi,
now this may sound really stupid to most of you since you are all very eager to have the newest ROM on your XDA's, but I don't really get it. My O2-XDA was always working fine, and when I read some topics here, I got the idea that I was missing something.
So I upgraded my device to radio 4.21 and ROM 3.17.03 but I don't notice any difference. Also, no programs have been added (except for the wireless modem application), and the ROM still comes with useless stuff like the Action Engine, which is useless since O2 Netherland is taken over by Telfort and it doesn't support it anymore. O2 England has a newer ROM version to offer, I might try that, but...
Why would I?
I have read countless topics on upgrading, also on upgrading the XDA to WM2003, but why? It's always "it works great!!!" or "I can't get it to work!!!" but the real difference (except the feeling of having the newest ROM in your device) is never explained.
So, someone, tell me what I'm missing here?
programs made for wm2003 dont always work on ppc2002
like voicecommand from ms
this is likely to become a bigger and bigger problem as time goes by
I agree with you on there is no BIG motive for upgrade. The only noticed differences are:
1. SMS better handling
2. GPRS "Always on" feature, but it's not that fancy except if you keep MSN messenger on (who does this ??!! :shock: ).
3. MIDI files for ring tones (never worked for me tho :evil: )
Rudegar said:
programs made for wm2003 dont always work on ppc2002
like voicecommand from ms
this is likely to become a bigger and bigger problem as time goes by
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That's true, but if you don't need these s/w you shouldn't sacrifice the stability. However, will this amount of experience in this forum it's not that complex any more.
1. SMS better handling
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Can you explain this to me?
Because my XDA already has GPRS always on (and you're right, who does that ).
Chances are I already have the better SMS handling, but didn't notice it? What is the exact difference?
Capt. PV.
I'd probably apply the 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it' rule if I were you.
I upgraded my XDA (and recently did a full hardware upgrade to an i-Mate / XDA II) because there were features I wanted (such as wireless modem) for a particular purpose, but I doubt I'd have upgraded if that weren't so.
If you're comfortable with your baby as it is, (and aren't slave to a constant compulsion to pull things apart to figure out why they work) don't mess with it. :roll: .
SMS has character count. GPRS always on is very useful when you are actually trying to do something with it. If you want to continue using old software that's fine. Same reason not to upgrade from DOS 6.1. But personally I like getting software and installing it without worrying about whether my O/S is new enough. Some of us just like to experiment too.
We also live in the hope that bugs and nuances will be fixed with each O/S release and service release. If you believe the XDA is without nuances in its original form then you don't use it enough.
If you cannot think of any single reason to upgrade - then don't.
SMS better handling also includes the 4 buttons in the dialog upon recveiving the SMS so you can call/delete/reply immediately instead of opening the Inbox item. This is plus the character count and the auto-name-insert feature after the first 3 letters.
The GPRS always on feature saves the time to get attached, but if this time is less than 3 seconds and usually the s/w is connecting automatically then it's not that issue (at least for me) as I noticed that making/receiving phone calls is faster when GPRS is off (I might be wrong tho ).
I notice you are running the standard O2 setup with the latest rom and radio stack 4.21, if you go to the rom kitchen you can still cook the same rom but you can add a whole bunch of programs to the unused space in your rom area, if you dont mind losing the bloated O2 auto setup and use the developers setup you will have even more free space. These programs are instantly available, use no ram unless running and make the xda a much better pda/phone.
Captain Pervert said:
So, someone, tell me what I'm missing here?
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Hi,
Pocket Quake II doesn't run on PPC2002 :twisted: "due to a bug in the Operating System" so other software may also not work. The second important thing is Media Player 9 installed (with codecs).
do people really play quake 1 and 2 and other fps on their pda's ?
or is it just to impress people ?
because i've messed around a bit with quake1 and feel like a handicap'd zombie trying to gain any kind of control over the game
compared to how i can do it on a normal pc
imho then the controls of pda's dont mix with fps that well
the whole aiming thing require one to use the pen and i just cant do that fast or precise enough for gaming

What is the benefit of unlocking the extended rom?

Hi,
I am new to PDA world and I was reading about unlocking the extended rom recently.
1. What good will that do to me? I have a 512MB miniSD, isn't that enough?
2. Isn't that dangerous? What if I accidentaly delete something on it, is it fatal?
10x
Cant answer your question as im new to the Wizard also ( do have some ppc experience ). All I would say is that unless your device isnt doing something you want it to, I would leave it be.
My device is coping with my demands at the moment so I havent even thought about rom changing, or extended rom unlocking.
Would be gutted if I broke it when I was doing something just for the sake of it
real + is being able to install apps to new ROM thus being able to install more and/or leaving more working storage, you can also play with registry and move things like ringtones to this area and not be worried about space. I am still relatively new to all this but I have done this twice now (old ROM version and latest from TMobile) and as long as follow instructions on this site then all should go fine. Just be sure to make backup of current ROM and Operator extended rom (this contains all apps,updates,fixes,customizations) so you should always be able to recover.
As you say, 512mb card is enuff to play with, but you wouldnt be reading this site if you werent a little adventurous.
Read all you can, other sites have similar forums as below, then take the plung 8) Links below are all the ones I read before performing.
http://pocketpcdubai.infopop.cc/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/582600994/m/170105659/p/1
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BackupExistingRom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23391&highlight=ring+tones
On previous HTC phones, there was an area of ROM which was in fact 'locked'. Cleverer people than me worked out how to 'unlock' it and use the space for whatever they wanted to put there rather than HTC, O2 etc.
The extended ROM on the Wizard isn't locked (at least not on my Qtek one), just hidden. File Explorer can't see it, but Total Commander can.
Why dabble? Well, if you hard reset, after initial boot, stuff in ext-rom can be made to auto install. So, if you like Total Commander or PocketInformant, you could have them install after any hard reset. Maybe you'd do it with TomTom so if your device needs a reset, you'd still get home.
One neat option on other devices is a util to text you with the phone's number if your device is stolen and somebody tries to use a different SIM in it.
On the i-mate version, you might decide you're never going to run the anti-virus s/w, so you mod the ext-rom to prevent it being installed each reset.
Altenatively you could forget you'd ever heard of it and be no worse off ;-)
Dox

jasjar is SLOOOOOOOOOOW

hello there :lol:
i removed practically everything that i could remove from the ram , as well as the extended rom , i also removed memory indicators from today screen, and disabled error reporting.
i noticed A LOT of useless stuff in the windows folder , unremovable offcourse , (like a 4mb lost in 2 themes files ) .
also i noticed that u cannot reallocate ram (storage/program) memory through the elegent slider that was there before.
yet the major crisis in this device is the lack of a backup utility ... I desperatly need help about this , i couldnt find any third party software to backup system.
Is there any way to enable removing of unnecessary files in windows folder :?:
Device is still crowling ... PLease help ...
hard reset and don't install the customizations
look at the wiki, there's a lot of hacks to make you're jasjar run faster
dddrko said:
look at the wiki, there's a lot of hacks to make you're jasjar run faster
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I'm sure I am just missing them, but where are the hacks you mention that address speed on the Wiki? I am familiar with, and have used several of the ones there (i.e. MS Voice Command via Bluetooth Headset).
I'm just not seeing anything addressing the disappointngly slow speed of my Qtek 9000.
The Universal will never run as fast as you'd expect a 520Mhz device to run as the flash memory limits the speed (and the screen rendering will also slow down the device). You know my old Gateway PC from 1996 (200Mhz and 64MB RAM) was very impressive compared to my Universal when you look at the Universal's hardware!
upgrade to the beta release from imate, its fast
wiki registry backs to the menus etc will speed it up, better memory storage etc
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Registry
a bit old but
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31697
If speed is your beef, go the upgrade, its beta, but faster
still
i did the upgradde , and did not install the customizations , applied all the hacks , and it s still slow :x , the change was too little to b noticed ...
my goodness , what to do ... ?
p.S: what is the flash memory ???
there is no way it can be slow after that upgrade
everybody says its way fast, not just me
what extra software are you running? Was it slow prior to additional software?
SPB?
I find Jasjar slow too. Especially coming from XDA O2 IIi, it's much faster IMO. I considered myself to be very fast with PDA. But now, I have to wait for a few second before I could proceed to the next task.

Clean Wm6 3.7 Rom - which One

Has anyone got a clean WM6 v3.7 ROM
a) Without the extended Rom - I see that it is available (Have even managed to remove mine using Total Commander)
b) without the additional softwares - like acrobat, clearvue, Asian Network wizard !!, onenote, Audio Manager (Wmplayer is fine), Windows Live (Why Why??) etc - waste of space as I do not use them or need them.
I need this as I need the additional space for my company software and with all these additional apps - I just done seem to have enough space left and my Orbit crawls and screams...
Please can someone clean the Dopod Rom and remove the extra apps and place it online?
Any help - please will be reaaaaaallllyy greatfull?

Upgrade ancient WM2003 Device

Hi,
I have an old WM2003SE Navigator (Typhoon MyGuide 6500XL) lying around, it's not in the Device DB but the MyGuide 3500XL is. It looks identical, has the same specs and the same Intel PXA255 processor as mine.
There is almost no software for 2003 left and after getting used to my HTC Touch2 (Mega) the touch experience is awful.
I was wondering if it was possible to upgrade this nearly-no-brand ancient PDA/GPS to a newer Windows Mobile ROM. All I have is the device, so I guess I can dump the old ROM from that.
I know most of you are thinking 'throw it a way and buy something decent' but at the time (my dad) bought it it had the price of an iPhone now :/ It seems so stupid to throw it away...
I'm a real noob at ROM Cooking and I don't even know if this is possible at all, but if it is, could someone please help me?
Thank you in advance,
MrJSO
I doubt you'll be able to do it, but search around and see if there are any rom upgrades out there from the oem; that would be the best place to start. And search and see if there are any custom roms or kitchens (I doubt it).
I have an asus mypal a716. I've looked around for custom roms for it, and basically all you find are the random post from someone looking for a custom rom for it, lol. Asus pretty much stopped supporting it the second they released it, so there aren't any official roms out there. I've tried dumping the rom with 0 success, and I've read posts from others who also had 0 success. I tried grab it, and all it dumps is the bootloader. I don't have a clue how to convert one of those dumps into a flashable rom, anyway. The thread is basically full of other posters asking how to create a rom from the dump, with no answers. I think some people know how to do it, but they never respond in that thread, lol. Anyway, grab_it would be the second thing to try, I guess.
The closest thing that exists to a custom rom for the mypal is a linux port (at least as far as I can tell). It's over at handhelds.org. There may be a similar option for you. It requires you to flash a patched bootloader, so you can dual boot winmo or linux of the sd card. I've never done it before.
WM2003 devices are so different from WM5 and later (because of the storage model), that I think the odds of you not bricking your pda with any custom WM5 or later rom are pretty low. A more realistic goal may be to cook 2003SE roms. Anyway, I find that plenty of useful apps work on the mypal. Hell, it's far better for games than my fuze. I use it mostly to stream music over wi-fi (it's hooked up to a small set of speakers).
Edit: LMAO! This thread is the 4th hit on google for "asus mypal a716" "custom rom".
Thank you very much
I just discovered that Typhoon just put the logo on to sell though discounter markets... It's actually the same device as the Mio 168. It seems that there is a lot more feedback from people about that device available...
Still, if you say putting newer WM on it isn't going to work anyways, I guess I should stop my search then?
The problem is that all newer apps don't support wm2003 anymore Also wm2003 is just forcing you to use that stylus - I wish I didn't have to
Also, Am I right that there is really no way to make newer WM run on it by taking drivers from the old ROM and adding them to a default WM5 or higher ROM?
I guess you must forget to have any WM 6.5 in your phone because the specs tell you:
RAM 64 Mb (54 mb accessible)
ROM 32 Mb
Maybe a WM 6.1 or 5.0 but as FT said i doubt that you will find all the tools.
I have a HTC Bali (Fujitsu Pocket Loox 720) and was never able to find ,at least, a method to put a WM 5.0 in it lol.
The problem is that 2003 devices have small rom storage; they use ram for storage, and I'm not sure how you would upgrade them to WM5 or later which have persistant storage (you'd need a native kernel and drivers and all that crap). I'm sure some devices got official upgrades from 2003 to WM5, but I think it would be tough to figure out on your own. You might be able to cook a custom 2003SE rom, though, which would be kind of cool.

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