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Hello..I am an overall very excited HTC HD2 user but i am having huge battery problems which is why i am asking for your insights In general if phone is idle it can go as far as 35 hours straight without any charging.But when i start playing around with it, browse menus , look through settings,launch apps e.t.c the battery drains like mad..sometimes even 3% in 10 minutes..
i do not know what could be the cause of this in particular since listening to mp3, watching movies does not chalk down too much power,i can even say i was slightly happy in that area(consumption and quality wise)..
so far i have done the below..
-hard reseted
-got a brilliant new mmc (transcend 8gb class 6 FTW )
-flight mode only during nights
-bsb tweaks
-some of the tweaks mentioned in the registry tweak for battery thread (not mmc ones, read alot about data corruption risks)
-tested battery (output voltage and mah are fine and it only gets warm after 3 hours of constant ndrive use-which is normal)
-i never installed anywhere else besides phone memory(apps/games)
-virus free
-i have no data plan so 3g/hsdpa access is not a possibility(also deactivated all connections from NoData app)
-disabled all auto update app functions(weather,footprints, my location ,time e.t.c)
the only possible deal i can figure out its to blame is the radio rom..
As i said earlier i am very interested in hearing your thoughts,comments,suggestions on my issue..Thanks for hearing me out
specs
manila : 2.5.19211619
Rom : 1.66.482.1 (gr) - official
radio rom : 2.06.51.07
do you use msn live?
i have the SAME EXACT problem, i do NOT have any apps running, i always use cleanram, every apps always get terminated.
as soon as i TOUCH my phone, the battery drains, this battery is rediculous, i have BsB tweaks with powersaving, i dont beleive how you guys get a full day out of this crappy battery when mine doesnt last 10 hours with just texing/and web browsing. im on my third battery replacement, i conditioned my battery three times and STILL the same problem, i feel like braking this phone in half, im using my blackberry bold 9700 now which lasts me 3 days with FULL usage ALL day, my hd2 is about to see the hammer soon
try flashing it to another rom
I stepped from stock rom to artemis and I use my HD2 often but with the stock rom i didn't even came to the middle of the day but with that artemis rom i can get till next day morning without charging plus it's very stable and i almost never do a soft reset and i use this artemis rom about a month now and i didn't even do a hard reset after flashing
sorry for my english hope you understand me
My HD2 will last 2 days constant usage. This includes web surfing and emails being pulled down all day via exchange.
The battery goes down quick to about 30% and will stay around there for ages.
Baker0 said:
do you use msn live?
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No sir...and when i do i shut it down via resco task manager.. :/
Finezt said:
try flashing it to another rom
I stepped from stock rom to artemis and I use my HD2 often but with the stock rom i didn't even came to the middle of the day but with that artemis rom i can get till next day morning without charging plus it's very stable and i almost never do a soft reset and i use this artemis rom about a month now and i didn't even do a hard reset after flashing
sorry for my english hope you understand me
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I hear good things about artemis as well but i am afraid i am not up to the flashing challenge..too much of a chicken to play russian rulette worth 680 euros :3 (in case i break something)
just for a test select sign in with a different account so it wipes your details amd reset, use your phone normally and dont use live see how that gets on.
I had my phone running for 2 - 3 days of medium use. as soon as i signed up for live it was lasting less that a day even if i used task manager. I then wiped my details then it was back to normal again.
chris2busy said:
No sir...and when i do i shut it down via resco task manager.. :/
I hear good things about artemis as well but i am afraid i am not up to the flashing challenge..too much of a chicken to play russian rulette worth 680 euros :3 (in case i break something)
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With Artemis you can hardly go wrong. It does not flash your radio only the OS part, you do not have to use HSPL but SSPL which is far easier to perform. It's all explained on the Artemis thread itself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612580
regards, Kuzibri
BTW, if anything should go wrong, almost impossible with Artemis ROM's, then you can always flash back one of the original stock ROM.s from HTC itself (1.66 or 1.72)
kuzibri said:
With Artemis you can hardly go wrong. It does not flash your radio only the OS part, you do not have to use HSPL but SSPL which is far easier to perform. It's all explained on the Artemis thread itself:
regards, Kuzibri
BTW, if anything should go wrong, almost impossible with Artemis ROM's, then you can always flash back one of the original stock ROM.s from HTC itself (1.66 or 1.72)
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hmmm...this is actually interesting...the artemis post seems to be fairly close to stock rom...BUT..if i backup all stuff i got now, will the usual apps (spb backup e.t.c) store everything?like e.g pc imaging apps(acronis true image , paragon drive backup) ? and if they do...and something goes wrong i can restore from pc even if hd2 becomes unbootable?
i really wish there was something simpler than me meddling with flashing :S im more into-system knowledge oriented guy :S
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just for a test select sign in with a different account so it wipes your details amd reset, use your phone normally and dont use live see how that gets on.
I had my phone running for 2 - 3 days of medium use. as soon as i signed up for live it was lasting less that a day even if i used task manager. I then wiped my details then it was back to normal again.
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done...will report changes tomorrow..
chris2busy said:
hmmm...this is actually interesting...the artemis post seems to be fairly close to stock rom...BUT..if i backup all stuff i got now, will the usual apps (spb backup e.t.c) store everything?like e.g pc imaging apps(acronis true image , paragon drive backup) ? and if they do...and something goes wrong i can restore from pc even if hd2 becomes unbootable?
i really wish there was something simpler than me meddling with flashing :S im more into-system knowledge oriented guy :S
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I understand your "reluctance" to flash a new ROM, but to be honest if you go wrong with flashing Artemis Rom, you will probably never will be ready/equippped to flash a new ROM. Flashing a Artemis ROM is as easy as it can be!
regards, Kuzibri
^_^ i turned down the backlight to 20% and noticed an improvement in battery life.
dracd said:
^_^ i turned down the backlight to 20% and noticed an improvement in battery life.
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mine is set to 30% and with auto backlight off..its the ideal for my taste actually, even for the sunniest mornings
The WLmessenger change did not bear any fruits..i squeezed out all its batt to just see any time difference but nada..
Oh well, i might probably have to get over myself and start the flashing frenzy(i hear its quite addicting )
Byt the by , there is supposed to be a WWE version of 1.7.x this month i believe..maybe i will start with that and if it gets me nowhere Artemis here i come!
i'm just waiting for a 1500 capacity battery... which is all i need...
running full power and and heavy use... i manage to make it home to charge... but still... i would much rather have a bigger battery to avoid some worrying...
1500 would be soo perfect.. that accessory alone would add an extra 3-4 hours of life on my phone.. which would be more then enough...
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there is supposed to be a WWE version of 1.7.x this month i believe..maybe i
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Hopefully it comes out soon, but I'm tempted to try Artemis at the moment.
By the way i have 1 weird question about all those ROMs..Are they created from scratch from their makers or are they just modified/edited/tweaked versions of the original OS (ROM) that shipped with the phone?
I ordered a battery bundle with a wall charger, 2X1200mh batteries and a Mirco USB wire for $14 bucks. This is my first full smartphone so its hard for me to get used to the battery life.
I turned off all communications to flight mode. Yet my HD2 battery power keeps dropping fast. I dont have this problem with all my previous windows phone. Whats wrong? I'm using factory rom
malisha1 said:
I ordered a battery bundle with a wall charger, 2X1200mh batteries and a Mirco USB wire for $14 bucks. This is my first full smartphone so its hard for me to get used to the battery life.
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yea the hd2's minimal battery life is something that i never had to deal with before also... (i've owned other smartphones but usually could last 2-3 days with moderate to heavy use...) but then again.. i never had a smartphone like the hd2 before
regardless... i'm not sure if i'd be willing to carry 2 batteries around with me... granted i could just leave it in my car until its needed.. but i guess i just consider it a extra thing to remember before i go inside my house/ an extra step to complete before i sleep... would much rather have just one 1500mh
Battery Drain
Do you guys experiencing battery drain have Co0kies Home Tab installed?
There is a known battery drain issue with CHT if .NET version 3.5.9198.0 is not installed. The battery drain will disappear when 3.5.9198.0 replaces .Net 3.5.7xxx.
Don't forget to update the registry to activate the new version and deactivate version 2 or earlier version of 3.5!
Co0kieMonster said:
Some users have had trouble with the battery drain.
I've now added this solution to the first post.
About battery drain:
There is an incompatibility with older versions of the .Net framework that can cause the battery to drain too quickly.
If you have this issue download the latest .Net version from here and install it on your device.
Even if you don't have the issue, it's always good to have the latest .Net version installed.
Big thanks to mike2nl for providing this solution, and to MichelDiamond for tracking the issue while I was away.
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I've always read the thread about battery life problems on here thinking "Thank **** mine doesn't have that problem" - luckily since I bought mine in December the battery has been quite impressive really.
But a few days ago it suddenly started losing power VERY fast. I'm talking about 10%/hour even on standby, so I undid changes I'd made recently and it made no difference.
Then I read through loads of other threads on here from people who had poor battery life on their phones to look for clues/solutions.
It seems that the responses are (understandably) fairly consistent, eg:
check for stuff running in task manager
remove changes recently made to the phone/uninstall recently added apps
make sure your data/wireless etc isn't doing stuff it shouldn't be
turn off automatic updates
turn down the screen brightness
check activesync
do a hard reset
upgrade your radio rom
etc
All of these of course make sense and are useful suggestions, but it seems there are a good few cases where doing these things don't help, ie you check out the different potential causes and none appear to be responsible. And in the case of sudden poor battery performance you can't point the finger at the rom/screen brighness/auto updates if they are only doing the same as they have been for ages without issue.
So is there a genuine case for the batteries just suddenly 'going weak'?
I've resorted to a hard reset on mine last night after assuming something had got corrupted hence why I could not find the cause of the sudden battery weakness.
But it hasn't helped - it's still dropping approx 10% each hour while on standby, even on a basic install, without even all the apps I normally have.
To me therefore it logically has to mean a failing battery if a hard reset does not help - or can anyone argue why that might not be true? The only exception I can think of realistically is a hardware fault with the phone.
Have ordered a new standard one anyway, and a hicap 'bulge' battery, so I'll post up if the new one cures it. Quite a few battery threads seem to have no conclusion, so ultimately they're not all that helpful in those cases.
How many other people have had issues like this where the battery life has rapidly gone downhill and a new battery has solved the issue?
Also, has anyone done any tests on their 'dodgy' batteries to see if they are indeed going bad or if it's the phone at fault? For instance (really basic I know) if I were to hook up a light bulb to the battery and measure how long it lasts before it goes dim, then compare it to the results from a new battery, would that be worth trying?
If that's the case it's p1ss poor that a state of the art phone can't even go 6-7months before the battery is junk!
I understand and appreciate that li-ion cells only have a certain number of charge cycles (like most rechargeables) but this takes the cake!
My old XDA orbit is years old, still has its original battery, and that has not deteriorated by any noticeable amount, so these shouldn't either.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688496
and let me know if the new battery fixes the problem. I think the batteries might be crap and prone to failing early.
Thanks for the link - sounds exactly the same as my issue.
Hopefully the new battery packs will sort it but that's shocking quality control or product design/testing if these are failing so quickly.
change , Toshiba Tg01 , its better , im using 2 of thems , hd2 and Tg01
made by Japan is better than Taiwanese ,
Enchanter said:
change , Toshiba Tg01 , its better , im using 2 of thems , hd2 and Tg01
made by Japan is better than Taiwanese ,
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Yeah right. But that has not solved the problems with the 6 month old phone.
What i have not read in the post of Cret is that you took the memory card out and see if that improves battery life. a corrupt file on the memory card causes a huge drain.
try because that also happenns suddenly e.g. after been connected to a computer and not disconnecting properly.
That's a damn good point actually - thanks. I had seen that mentioned in other battery threads yet somehow completely forgot to try it.
I will try and see whether it makes any difference - cheers.
If that should turn out to be the cause of the problem how do you resolve it?
To elaborate - I don't imagine you can easily identify which file would be the culprit, without formatting the card and adding the files back one by one and testing for the fault to re-appear. That's totally impractical, almost impossible with the number of files you can fit on a 16gb card, and the time it would take to carry out that process, so what do you do?
Or is it possible that simply copying them off the card, formatting it, and pasting them back would somehow resolve the issue.
Enchanter said:
change , Toshiba Tg01 , its better , im using 2 of thems , hd2 and Tg01
made by Japan is better than Taiwanese ,
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How pointless.
wilcovh said:
Yeah right. But that has not solved the problems with the 6 month old phone.
What i have not read in the post of Cret is that you took the memory card out and see if that improves battery life. a corrupt file on the memory card causes a huge drain.
try because that also happenns suddenly e.g. after been connected to a computer and not disconnecting properly.
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Doesn't this usually result in filesys.exe spiking up to 100% (or just high) CPU usage, though? It isn't doing this on mine, although I'll give it a shot without the SD card. I would expect better battery life without an SD card in anyway, but nothing dramatic.
Cret, let me know if your new battery sorts the problem so I know to buy one myself!
the battery do this only a the begining but after 6 monthes of use it becomes better day after day
hoss_n2 said:
the battery do this only a the begining but after 6 monthes of use it becomes better day after day
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What are you talking about? Again, you enlighten a thread with useless information. You can clearly see the OP has had the phone for 6 months (as have I) and the battery is failing (as is mine).
Plus, your battery must defy the laws of physics if it gets better day after day. Interesting.
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If that should turn out to be the cause of the problem how do you resolve it?
almost impossible with the number of files you can fit on a 16gb card
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What you can try is put the memory card in a card reader and run checkdisk on the card. see if that identify's any problems on the file system
beside of that it seems that the HD2 has problems with 16GB cards, at least quite a few of them. read through the posts.
Id suggest to collect more data about the problem.
The program BattClock lets you check the battery drain in mA. A normal drain for the HD2, with no processes keeping the CPU awake, is 4mA in standby, with only the radio being powered to receive calls.
So, since the battery current value isn't update instantly, right after you wake up form stanby battclock should be showing 4mA (max6-7mA or something lik that) fora few seconds. If that's not the case, and if the drain is way higher than that, then it may be the case that the phone for some strange reasons is draining more current than it should, and it's not a real battery fault.
I had a similar issue, solved it by disabling auto backlight. Set it at 30% and all good since then.
Well, I thought there had been a slight improvement over the weekend with this battery issue but this morning on standby the phone dropped 3% in a matter of 5 or 10 minutes on standby.
So I removed the mcirosd card and in nearly 3 hours since then it has dropped another 4%. That's a big improvement and does hint that the card is the fault, but it's too early to be sure about that. I've put the card back in to see if it begins to drop fast again. If so I'll take it out for longer and monitor it again.
wilcovh said:
What you can try is put the memory card in a card reader and run checkdisk on the card. see if that identify's any problems on the file system
beside of that it seems that the HD2 has problems with 16GB cards, at least quite a few of them. read through the posts.
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Good idea. I wasn't aware that the phones had problems with cards this size. What about with 32gb ones (not that I can afford one!)?
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So, since the battery current value isn't update instantly, right after you wake up form stanby battclock should be showing 4mA (max6-7mA or something lik that)
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I did use battlog briefly, but just to keep an eye on the current current amount in use and it was fluctuating a lot just with the phone awake but running no apps. Sometimes it after waking it the phone would show a low figure like you quote but other times not.
I haven't checked batlog out fully in terms of what it's capable of, but what would be great would be an app that can log the current use like that does, but at the same time also log a list of which processes/services/applications are running, then that could REALLY give some useful info.
Eg the log shows normal current use, then spikes upwards when a specific process begins to run.
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I haven't checked batlog out fully in terms of what it's capable of, but what would be great would be an app that can log the current use like that does, but at the same time also log a list of which processes/services/applications are running, then that could REALLY give some useful info.
Eg the log shows normal current use, then spikes upwards when a specific process begins to run.
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make a request for this feature in battclock's thread
The author seems to be quite open to useful suggestions (I, among others, suggested the log-to-txt feature )
Would be a good idea - I like BattClock I must admit. Nice to have the taskbar info like it does.
Ok, later on in the day, it's worked out that it's used 35% battery in approx 3.5 hours of standby - pretty horrendous. Equates to about 10.5 hours (very roughly) battery life on standby. I've checked periodically during this 3.5 hour period and the drop has been steady.
With the card removed, it went 3 hours and only lost 4%, meaning approx 77 hours of standby time at that rate.
Quite a difference between the two.
So at this point it very much looks like there is a fault relating to the memory card.
I'll try some testing tonight. Mainly that will mean I'll first do a filesystem test as suggested. Then delete all the media files, cut the remainder of files and paste them elsewhere, format the card then paste them back, and see how it then behaves.
So it seems now that buying new batteries (and almost slagging off the HTC one) was slightly hasty, but they'll still be really useful, so I'm not at all bothered about that.
Try putting the blank card in, with nothing on it. Would be interesting to see how much juice it draws just having a card in there without reading anything from it.
I have the same issue.
My HD2 worked like a charm, only around 12% battery drain in 24 hours (I could carry it around on standby for one week before recharging).
Now - it sucks around 3% per hour. After one day, I'm at around 25% charge
At first I thougth this was related to Co0kie's Home Tab, but even after hard-reseting, it still drained battery as hell.
At the moment I'm running it without memory card (4GB Kingston) to see if this might be the issue...
I've run a CHKDSK on my memory card just in case, but the filesystem's fine. Any update, Cret?
Well, I'm sure mine was caused by the card, or at least a fault that related to it (ie possibly a file rather than the card itself).
Since I removed the card the battery life returned to normal, so I formatted it, and then copied some of the content back onto it again. It has been back in the phone for a little while now and has been behaving quite well. Basically for instance it's at 77% now at 10.30pm after being removed from the charger around 8am. I haven't used the phone much except to check emails a few times, read a few texts, and go online a couple of times/read RSS feeds a little.
So I'm fairly happy with that.
BUT - not having had the chance to use the phone much (ie mess about) since I formatted the card, I just found that the phone thinks there is no card inside it at the moment for some reason!
I removed it and the PC can read the card and its contents no problem but the phone cannot see it. The only reason I can think of for this is that I formatted the card as NTFS instead of Fat since it's meant to give faster performance, but is it possible that the phone itself does not support this format?
Since it's not working at the moment I'll have to try wiping it and changing it back to fat again.
Yes I have tried rebooting it also.
Next thing is th double size replacement battery I bought arrived the other day. The battery fits ok but the replacement cover that came with it does not fit properly at all.
The cover clips in ok on the side of the volume buttons, but no matter what I do it just hangs loose on the opposite side so I can't actually use the bloody thing since the battery will just fall out like this. Really not happy at all about this.
This is the one I bought:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Extended-2400...eBatteries&hash=item5d2925ce91#ht_1862wt_1137
I think I will be trying to return this for a full refund since there appears to be a design flaw. Normally I would attempt to make something like this fit properly myself but if I failed then I'd have a piece of junk that I could neither use nor return so I think better just to return it without messing about.
It's a shame as the cover actually looks like it should fit perfectly, and seems to fit very well, it's just that it fails completely to latch in place on one side, as if the clip bit is not long enough perhaps.
What concerns me slightly at the moment
Just reformatted the card as Fat instead of NTFS and loaded my files back on and it works now.
So I'll update in due course once I've been using it loaded up again.
I got my HD2 around 2 months ago. After some intense fiddling with it in the beginning, I installed one of the Energy ROM versions available back then, and my HD2 could keep working for 2 consecutive days without recharging. Granted, I didn't use too many apps back then, and neither did I make a large number of phone calls... BUT that doesn't mean the phone was in sleep mode the whole time.
Having a fully recharged phone last Saturday morning I decided to see how long it'll hold. I tried to use it as little as possible (this still leaves background tasks, but I'll get to that later). It held up reasonably for the whole Saturday, and at the end of the day I still had something around ~60% battery.
So I locked the phone and went to bed.
And when I woke up, the phone was at 25%. After taking a shower, it was at 20%. The phone wasn't hot (which would indicate that some process is hogging all the CPU), and the Task Manager showed nothing out of the ordinary.
Now, about the only background tasks I've ever been running were Parlingo and Lumos... and I didn't even install Lumos after the last ROM update.
What can I do to diagnose this problem? Is the battery dying? Is the power info incorrect and I was getting false readings entire Saturday? Is this the ROM? What can I do to make sure?
Rule out the battery cheaply by purchasing an eBay replacement... I have 3 of these and they are good stable batteries... and cheap...
LINKY...
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Now, about the only background tasks I've ever been running were Parlingo and Lumos... and I didn't even install Lumos after the last ROM update.
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Do you mean that Lumos is still running as a background task when it isn't installed, or that you always used to have it running before the problem?
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Do you mean that Lumos is still running as a background task when it isn't installed, or that you always used to have it running before the problem?
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Sorry for the late reply (work work work)...
I mean that I used to have Lumos installed, but in order to try to pinpoint the source of the fast battery drain, I decided not to install it when I upgraded Energy.
I'll try some batteries, sure... But if there are any solutions that I could try and which are free, then I'd rather try those first...
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Sorry for the late reply (work work work)...
I mean that I used to have Lumos installed, but in order to try to pinpoint the source of the fast battery drain, I decided not to install it when I upgraded Energy.
I'll try some batteries, sure... But if there are any solutions that I could try and which are free, then I'd rather try those first...
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Just wondering which radio are you using ?
I did have the same problem like you and it just keep getting faster that my battery wont even last me over a night .
What i did was i reflash it back to the stock rom with the radio that came with the stock one. I used it for a day and see when its stable , I Flash my radio to 2.10 and till now I am good . Btw I am using energy rom as well.
If your battery is lasting 24hours, then there is nothing wrong with the battery.
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Just wondering which radio are you using ?
I did have the same problem like you and it just keep getting faster that my battery wont even last me over a night .
What i did was i reflash it back to the stock rom with the radio that came with the stock one. I used it for a day and see when its stable , I Flash my radio to 2.10 and till now I am good . Btw I am using energy rom as well.
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I went back to 2.07. I figured the voice quality is OK enough while the 3G towers in Poland are sucky to begin with, meaning 3G switching / range isn't a real issue.
With the 17th July Energy ROM everything seems to have went back to normal.
I recently noticed that when I remover the battery for more than a minute, the clock (after starting up) would be late. The more I leave the battery out, the more the battery will be late. I recently tried several Android NAND roms & WP7. I have returned back to WM.
I don't remeber noticing this before, I have Hard-Reset the phone, re-flashed, HSPL, Task29, and still the same.
Is it my HD2 only? a Hardware problem (covered by warranty)? Or is it something normal?
Thanks for any feedback.
The internal battery on the board of your HD2 has run dry. You can send it back to HTC to get it repaired...but really all it does is run the internal clock, so it's not a huge deal if you can stand resetting the clock when restart your phone.
I was suspecting this, as I faced it with my Tornado. But I didn't read about any user with an HD2 who complained about it.
Any idea where I can buy one to try to replace myself?
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I was suspecting this, as I faced it with my Tornado. But I didn't read about any user with an HD2 who complained about it.
Any idea where I can buy one to try to replace myself?
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It's not possible to replace it, unless you buy a new phone, because it's not really a battery, it's more like a small chip and its fix integrated on the motherboard. There's no way to change it without buying a new motherboard. I would say, this problem is not big enough to pay so much for it. And maybe you could think about it, if it's necessary to remove the battery. Unless you want to replace the SIM Card you don't have to. SD-Card Slot is not under the battery and for rebooting you have a reset button, and if you have to flash your phone, you have to set up everything so it's not a problem to also set up your time ^.^
Best regards
Is it something that should be covered under warranty?
I baught my HD2 from Clove.co.uk from 1 year back & at the time, warranty used to be 2 years from purchase.
Also, if it is a problem of the Inernal Battery, wouldn't the time reset to ROM date & time? My problem is that the time actualy goes back.
For example, it is 9:15pm & I remove the battery for 1 minute, the phone starts & time is 9:11pm. The more the battery is out, the more the time will be back.
Yeah I have this problem too! *feels less alone*
I noticed this problem after the first time I ran an Android build from SD, but that was probably coincidence...
I'm not really into sending it to warranty, my HD2 works great and sometimes they come from warranty worse than they go...
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I noticed this problem after the first time I ran an Android build from SD, but that was probably coincidence...
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Now that you mentioned it, I did notice this problem after one of the Android builds from SD. Don't remeber which.
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Now that you mentioned it, I did notice this problem after one of the Android builds from SD. Don't remeber which.
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I'm starting to think that it is related... Another guy complains about something similar after using Android SD...
Yes... Normally it should reset it.
But if you say it's only one year old, there's another hardware problem because such a battery has a lifetime from approximately 2 years.
Maybe - or better they must - will change it under the warranty conditions.
And I don't think that it has something to do with AD SD builds. I also used them for a long time and never encountered something like this.
Hello there.
I have the same problem with my HD2, which runs on a cooked ROM.
What I have noticed is that it actually goes back to the date and time of it's last boot (in fact the time and date SET after the last boot, since it changes and I have to reset it every time, by syncing or manually), regardless of the way the reboot was done. It is a little strange I guess...
Just thought to add this little piece of information.
Oh, and my phone is also quite "young", I have it for less than a year (don't remember the exact date of purchase).
Interesting. I was about to post a similar issue.
I had been using (SD) Android for about 3 weeks continuously. Had a crash and rebooted. I have some problems in Android now following this (corrupt Data.img I think) so booted back into WinMO and found the date was now 2nd Feb 2010 and some random time!
Reset the time and restarted and for some reason it refuses to recognise we are in BST (and I can't see how to change it to GMT +BST)
Same date/time showed when I booted into Android (doesn't seem to be getting the correct details from Network?)
Slightly better after a few reboots so that now everytime I reboot with a battery pull it is setting an older time (but correct date).
I have the same issue using WP7. The time changes backk like 6 hours or so to a completely random time.
And the annoying thing is that the phone seems to think its the right time, and theres no way to 'force' and automatic time update on its self, so i have to disable automatic update and enter the correct time manually!
That's the thing that gets me most - you can move between time zones and the phone gets the local time from the Network operator, but will not "check" if it is wrong by so much....
It must be the internal battery thingumijiggy.
Just confirmed that it only happens after a battery pull.
as long as no one has posted a theory yet, i'm gonna give it a shot!
i think the phone might have TWO regions of memory for storing the current date/time:
1. a "volatile" one (good as long as battery is present)
2. and another "non-volatile" one (survives between battery pulls)
my theory is, WM6.5 ROMs have something hidden in them that allows the date/time to be (periodically?) written to the non-volatile region in case the battery is pulled, following which the system might need to recall the last reliable date/time, as opposed to resetting to an arbitrary default date/time.
the volatile region is good as long as the battery isn't removed. the volatile region is initialized by the non-volatile region and is subsequently kept updated by the RTC (real time clock) chip, whether or not an OS is running (like android or WM or WP7).
but perhaps the little piece of logic that updates the non-volatile region is somehow absent in our android builds?
I have the same problem, and i just use clocksync a free app from market. The app sync the time every time you reboot your phone.
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Dmxnet said:
I have the same problem, and i just use clocksync a free app from market. The app sync the time every time you reboot your phone.
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I also use clocksync in android. But it doesn't solve the problem... :S
Hi,
i noticed months ago the following on my IDEOS X5 (german) concerning bad battery life. It could be the reason why there are so many different reports regarding bettery lifetime of the U8800.
First - why did I start to investigate: because the phone sucked about 5-10% per hour while not beeing used / lying on my desk, so after max 20 hours the battery was empty. But this did/does not always happen....
What I did: it took some time to get used to android (its my first droid) and learn how to troubleshoot. A month after I got this phone I learned that the GSM-code *#*#4636#*#* will show you very useful information concenring battery/phone usage. I started to play around with the phone (factory reset, install/remove apps, enable/disable different options like 2G/3G/WLAN etc...) always keeping an eye on the 4636-infos.
Result: When I use WLAN the phone simetimes enters an "state" when it never again enters "sleep state" and the battery gets sucked as stated above. I switched off WLAN for a week and this did not occur while standby time increased to 48 hours and 4636 stated an "phone awake" percentage of below 20% (normal usage). Once I reenabled WLAN again it took about an day of WLAN usage to reproduce the bug and "phone awake" time increased to 100% while standby time decreased to below 20 hours. ONLY rebooting the device recovers from this "state". I further noticed that this does not happen if just WLAN is available but no 2G/3G (phone had no SIM). My conclusion is, that the
"You May Be Charged"-Popup is the culprit. It does lock the phone to this "state" for some reason, mybe when the WLAN connection is dropped while the phone is not used (traveling). Can someone reproduce this on his phone (maybe not german)?
Resolution: IMHO none. I send the device twice to reseller for service. First time the complete mainboard was changed without success regarding the battery drain. Second time nothing was done - they just returned the device to me.
Thanks.
This is a known problem, that already has a thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043760
This is affecting ALL Froyo Roms, if you want battery life, install Oxygen or CM7...which are based on Gingerbread.
There is no point in discussing this issue anymore, this is a very well known problem and Huawei doesn't care.
Sending the phone back to manufacturer won't help at all.
Thank you for the hint - it realy looks like the same issue. Knowing more about the nature of this issue could give people not willing to install custom roms a possible solution. Can someone move this thread over to that one?
katu2006 said:
This is a known problem, that already has a thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043760
This is affecting ALL Froyo Roms, if you want battery life, install Oxygen or CM7...which are based on Gingerbread.
There is no point in discussing this issue anymore, this is a very well known problem and Huawei doesn't care.
Sending the phone back to manufacturer won't help at all.
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But Huawei is about to release official 2.3 in Q3 atleast I hope...
andreasha said:
But Huawei is about to release official 2.3 in Q3 atleast I hope...
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Everyone is looking forward to official 2.3, but we'll have to wait and see if the "sleep" bug will be sorted.
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Everyone is looking forward to official 2.3, but we'll have to wait and see if the "sleep" bug will be sorted.
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I hope some more bugs are straightened out like headphones and internal mic at the same time. Headset button to work. Battery time!
none of my android phones could use the phone's mic when headphones were plugged in
I saw a solution for the mic-with-headphones-problem a few days ago, either here or at modaco (do not know if it is confirmed working though).
fajabird, I know that you want this to work with the ROMs provided by Huawei. Huawei obviously does not care too much about providing the community with updates (they do not even have gingerbread-support by now). This is the downside of this low priced phone.
Let me just say this: It took me about one hour to understand the ultimate-guide at modaco. It took me another hour to decide which ROM I want to use. If anything goes wrong at the installation I can easily start over again. Now I have a fully working phone with Android 2.3.5 with a battery that lasts at least 2 days, sometimes 3(if I do not play any games within that time). Of course I understand that you are probably very pissed at Huawei for providing a ROM with a bug that serious.
if you find that fix again, let us know where to look
darkado said:
if you find that fix again, let us know where to look
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It is to be found at the Android-development-section, right here. Note that you cannot use the mic of your headset after applying this
too bad, it would be awesome to be able to use both
XphX said:
I saw a solution for the mic-with-headphones-problem a few days ago, either here or at modaco (do not know if it is confirmed working though).
fajabird, I know that you want this to work with the ROMs provided by Huawei. Huawei obviously does not care too much about providing the community with updates (they do not even have gingerbread-support by now). This is the downside of this low priced phone.
Let me just say this: It took me about one hour to understand the ultimate-guide at modaco. It took me another hour to decide which ROM I want to use. If anything goes wrong at the installation I can easily start over again. Now I have a fully working phone with Android 2.3.5 with a battery that lasts at least 2 days, sometimes 3(if I do not play any games within that time). Of course I understand that you are probably very pissed at Huawei for providing a ROM with a bug that serious.
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Hi, thank you for sharing your experience with me. I always wanted to update to some custom roms but the time I started investigating this issue there was no stable one out there. On the other hand I thought there might be a dev interessted in more details regarding this issue helping him to sort out this nasty bug for whatever reason.
Can someone tell me, if his U8800 also has the ambient light sensor but like mine does: it won't reduce the brightness, just increase works. Thanks.
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Hi, thank you for sharing your experience with me. I always wanted to update to some custom roms but the time I started investigating this issue there was no stable one out there. On the other hand I thought there might be a dev interessted in more details regarding this issue helping him to sort out this nasty bug for whatever reason.
Can someone tell me, if his U8800 also has the ambient light sensor but like mine does: it won't reduce the brightness, just increase works. Thanks.
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Mine reduces brightness but does it quite weird sometimes like adjusting several times without the light around me changing...
Mine always adjusts it way too low. If I am inside the brightness is always on minimum. I use the power-widget on the homescreen. I only change it at night, it is on max. for the whole day (the max. brightness is still kinda low, especially if it's sunny).
fajabird said:
Hi,
i noticed months ago the following on my IDEOS X5 (german) concerning bad battery life. It could be the reason why there are so many different reports regarding bettery lifetime of the U8800.
First - why did I start to investigate: because the phone sucked about 5-10% per hour while not beeing used / lying on my desk, so after max 20 hours the battery was empty. But this did/does not always happen....
What I did: it took some time to get used to android (its my first droid) and learn how to troubleshoot. A month after I got this phone I learned that the GSM-code *#*#4636#*#* will show you very useful information concenring battery/phone usage. I started to play around with the phone (factory reset, install/remove apps, enable/disable different options like 2G/3G/WLAN etc...) always keeping an eye on the 4636-infos.
Result: When I use WLAN the phone simetimes enters an "state" when it never again enters "sleep state" and the battery gets sucked as stated above. I switched off WLAN for a week and this did not occur while standby time increased to 48 hours and 4636 stated an "phone awake" percentage of below 20% (normal usage). Once I reenabled WLAN again it took about an day of WLAN usage to reproduce the bug and "phone awake" time increased to 100% while standby time decreased to below 20 hours. ONLY rebooting the device recovers from this "state". I further noticed that this does not happen if just WLAN is available but no 2G/3G (phone had no SIM). My conclusion is, that the
"You May Be Charged"-Popup is the culprit. It does lock the phone to this "state" for some reason, mybe when the WLAN connection is dropped while the phone is not used (traveling). Can someone reproduce this on his phone (maybe not german)?
Resolution: IMHO none. I send the device twice to reseller for service. First time the complete mainboard was changed without success regarding the battery drain. Second time nothing was done - they just returned the device to me.
Thanks.
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Hey there friend, I've detailed much of this and been through a lot of troubleshooting. It did not appear to be the "You may be charged" popup as I disabled that whenever I changed ROMs. I never did get a solution for any of the Huawei ROMs, it just seemed like bad code as Dzo pointed out with the WiFi driver.
A very simple solution for me was installing one of the 2.3 ROMs, they are quite stable at the moment, especially Oxygen (although I use MIUI). You will find much better battery life with these.
Best of luck,
Ryan
My stock rom 2.2.1 Shows Android System 97% battery usage and battery drains 50% in 19minutes! With wi-fi, 3g, Bluetooth, everything is off and even i do not use it.
Flash latest official 2.2.2, wait for official 2.3, flash the custom 2.2.2 rom void or flash a custom 2.3 rom. I would recommend flashing the latest 138 or 162 to get the latest modem baseband or manually install the AMSS.bin.
Sent from my Ideos x5
andreasha said:
Flash latest official 2.2.2, wait for official 2.3, flash the custom 2.2.2 rom void or flash a custom 2.3 rom. I would recommend flashing the latest 138 or 162 to get the latest modem baseband or manually install the AMSS.bin.
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I can't because phone do not use my external SD card somehow. In android i see files but in recovery-it does not use external sd.. I ask in forum why-but nobody answers
Backup ur data on it and format it. If that doesnt work ill send you a guide how i fixed mine, its just a partition error.
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andreasha said:
Backup ur data on it and format it. If that doesnt work ill send you a guide how i fixed mine, its just a partition error.
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I formated it via phone, then via PC - it works in powered on phone in android, but in recovery it doesn't it only sees sdcard as internal memory, if i try mount sd-ext shows error, can't mount.
Also i have problem if i use pc to copy some files to internal memory-phone switches storage mode OFF! and i can't copy files to internal 2GB memory..strange