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soft/hard resets

whats a soft or hard reset, there is a hole at the button of my xda ii that resets it but keeps all my programs, i assume thats basically a restart button, so thats a soft restart? a hard restart is when u take out ur battery for like 10 mins and lose everything right?

That's a soft reset. To hard reset , press the on/off button while pushing ths stylus in the hole at at the bottom on the XDA. It clears everything from RAM, and it reloads the operating system from flash memory. Just like when you first bought it and turned it on.
Removing the battery will do it eventually, once the backup battery runs down.

jljones said:
That's a soft reset. To hard reset , press the on/off button while pushing ths stylus in the hole at at the bottom on the XDA. It clears everything from RAM, and it reloads the operating system from flash memory. Just like when you first bought it and turned it on.
Removing the battery will do it eventually, once the backup battery runs down.
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why does my xda when i remove my batt even for a minute, it always performs hard resets? any suggestions to avoid hard resetting when i change sim cards?
thanks.

Soft reset, won't restart again

OK, I've not read a word of the manual, so maybe I'm doing something wrong. When I soft reset (stylus in the hole) the screen fade away and then it won't for the love of god restart. The first time I did this, I went a little pale. however, if I take out the battery for around five minutes and then plug it back in, it starts up again. Is this wrong?
Also, never quite been able to hard reset the damned thing. I press and hold the two "__" buttons whilst performing the reset, but the same thing happens and I'm never prompted for screen calibration or anything else I'd expect from a hard reset. SOMEBODY HOLD ME

Can someone please talk me through the EXACT and DETAILED procedure and result both a soft reset and hard reset?
For me, on my MDA Pro:
Soft reset: Insert tip of stylus into "reset" hole briefly. Screen fades away to blank and the machine then acts dead. No buttons will bring it back to life. Take the battery out and plug it back in, still dead. Come back after 30 minutes, still dead. It needs the battery removing for at least 5 minutes, maybe more like 10, then reinserting and it springs back to life.
Hard reset: Hold down the two "__" keys (above the 4 and 9 keys) whilst inserting the stylus tip into the reset hole briefly. Exactly the same thing happens as a soft reset - no hard reset is performed.
I'm pretty sure this is all wrong and my device is "special"

Not Right!!!
Xiasma: This is very wrong indeed. I've got access to the jasjar and Pro and neither one displays what you mentioned on yours. The procedure you described for both types of resets is correct. Try one more time holding down the 2 soft keys '_' for half a second then whilst holding them down push the stylus in the soft reset hole in at the back of the device (if in laptop mode).
If you still don't get a hard reset, I'm quite certain you have a faulty unit.
Let us know how you get on :?

Thanks, your reply is very much appreciated. Well, looks like it's a faulty unit, then. It doesn't really affect my day-to-day use, so I'm tempted to keep it until there's an official rom upgrade, RAM hike or something :wink:

have you tried turning the power off (using the...er...power button!) before poking at the reset button...see if that makes any difference?

Any joy with your MDA Pro hard or soft resetting?
xiasma: Have you had any luck with your MDA Pro either soft or hard resetting? I'm interested in knowing for personal reasons also, as I have had to exchange 2 units with t-mobile already, due to what I believe is a very buggy ROM, but I could be wrong and it could be something else. :?

need help please!

I recently installed some cabs without backing up my tilt. Now, i just wanna go back to the original, like when i got it. I went into settings>system>clear storage. i put in the 1234 like it says and hit yes, and nothing happens. I dont know what to do. Please help!

You should Hard Reset it. This way you will eliminate any data or programs you installed after you started using it. By Erasing storage you will not clean the registry etc.

This is how you Hard Reset your Tilt:
Hard Reset **NB** This cannot be performed while the device is connected/charging!**
Press and hold both soft keys
Using a stylus, press and hold the soft reset button at the bottom of the phone
Keep all three buttons pressed until the keypad lights turn off and then flash
Release the soft reset button while still pressing the soft keys
Let go of the two soft keys once the message "This operation will delete all your personal data, to manufacturer default" appears on screen
Finally, press the green call button to perform the hard reset, or press other key to cancel
BEWARE: You will lose all te data on the device - including your PIM data (messages, contacts...), only SD card will be left intact - so backup everything you might need after you reset it to factory state.

thank you guys very much. I am new to this. This is my first pda style phone and i love it. Im just a newb with it. LOL.

phone won't hard reset!

Hi,
I have tried and tried to do a hard reset but the phone only soft resets.
i press and hold both soft keys under the screen (the "-" key above the Q and the "-" key above the P) and then i poke the reset button on the side of the phone. It will only soft reset. I've tried this when the phone was turned on and turned off.
I've even tried pressing the left soft key first and then the right, I've reversed the order . . .
Nothing I try will let me do a hard reset!
Any ideas?

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No doubt you're doing it, but you have to push both soft keys at the same time as when you push in the stylus. Push both keys extremely hard with your right hand, and enter the stylus with the other.
Otherwise you could just try flashing one of DCD's rom's. That ought to get it to the hard reset status you want anyway right?

hey scotcha12345,
I tried pushing both keys at the same time too (then poked the reset). But it still won't hard reset.
I would like to do a hard reset because I'm sending this phone back to vzw.
I just want to clear the memory of any personal stuff.
I did the Settings>System>Clear Storage thing but I want to be REALLY sure that everything is gone and a hard reset seems like my best bet. (But, of course, the phone won't hard reset.)
Since it does not look like I'll be able to hard reset can anyone confirm that the Clear Storage thing does what a hard reset would do at least in terms of clearing anything personal and getting rid of programs that vzw might not like? (It has the stock ROM so I'm good there.) From what I can tell, I should be ok with Clear Storage but I would still rather do the hard reset.

and just to be clear, I've tried pushing all three (both soft keys and reset button with stylus) at the same time, too.

hard reset
2 other suggestions:
1st:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Titan
Scroll down to: Downgrading -- Official Carrier ROMs & associated radios with flashing guides
You could reflash with that. It's the original ROM and radio, so there should be no problem, thus avoiding any warranty deal breaking. (fairly quick and easy)
2nd
I'm pretty sure in the past I've seen a program that has a button that you can just push that does a Hard Reset...looking for it.
I've never done the Clear Storage, so I'm no help there.

Have you tried using the soft keys on the face of the phone? The ones above the windows and ok buttons. I've only used these and never the ones on the keyboard.
Ivan

try doing it by pressing the two softkeys obave the send and end buttons and then prees the reset button with the stylus BUT KEEP PRESSING THE TWO SOFT KEYS, DON'T RELEASE THEM UNTIL YOU SEE THE HARD RESET SCREEN...

btonetbone & nelsongruebr
Thanks, that did the trick.
(Sorry for the long response time. I was in a coma for the last 6 months.)

to answer your earlier question about the "clear storage" method... yeah, that does the same hard reset as when you press the two softkeys (on face of phone) + reset button.
The "clear storage" is the only method for the xv6900 users to hardreset since they don't have softkeys.
Ive hardreset both ways on my xv6800 with the same result.

How to Soft Reset

Am i missing something...I coming form windows mobile..I don't see a button under the cover, or way to soft rest...Can someone please share some light?

With Android it's pretty much not needed. It's a pretty rare occasion (I can't say it's every happened with my G1 or MyTouch, so...) when simply holding the power button won't give you the power-down menu, no matter what kind of crazy things an application has done. If things get really bad (a deep down error in the OS... also a very rare occasion) it will more likely reboot itself than simply freeze up.
But if that rare occasion does happen, you'll just pop off the back cover and pull out the battery for a few seconds. No harm, no foul.

Exactly, Worse comes to worst and you pull the battery.

there is a hard reset, go into bootloader (hold trackball and power on phone)and press Reset (Factory Defaults).

Hard reset != soft reset.
Hard reset does not equal soft reset.
Hard reset in Android land is roughly similar to a wipe in WinMo ROM hacking land, except you WILL NOT want to do it after flashing a full ROM, only before.

I know that, thats why I said hard reset not soft reset.

Soft reset: hold down power button+volume down+track ball.
Wonder if there is some application that can do it (like the ones we had on windows mobile)

I imagine it's a superuser function, so, for an app, you would need root access on your phone, and you would need to allow it.
Trackball + Volume Down + Power. Your phone will soft reset after about 2 sec.

kozm0naut said:
I imagine it's a superuser function, so, for an app, you would need root access on your phone, and you would need to allow it.
Trackball + Volume Down + Power. Your phone will soft reset after about 2 sec.
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Does it remove my contact list or it will just reboot the cell phone like we reboot the computer or a windows cell phone using the reset button?
Thanks

It's a soft reset, apps with unsaved data you have running may not save, but other than that it's basically like telling your phone to shut down, then telling it to power back on.