soft/hard resets - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

whats a soft or hard reset, there is a hole at the button of my xda ii that resets it but keeps all my programs, i assume thats basically a restart button, so thats a soft restart? a hard restart is when u take out ur battery for like 10 mins and lose everything right?

That's a soft reset. To hard reset , press the on/off button while pushing ths stylus in the hole at at the bottom on the XDA. It clears everything from RAM, and it reloads the operating system from flash memory. Just like when you first bought it and turned it on.
Removing the battery will do it eventually, once the backup battery runs down.

jljones said:
That's a soft reset. To hard reset , press the on/off button while pushing ths stylus in the hole at at the bottom on the XDA. It clears everything from RAM, and it reloads the operating system from flash memory. Just like when you first bought it and turned it on.
Removing the battery will do it eventually, once the backup battery runs down.
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why does my xda when i remove my batt even for a minute, it always performs hard resets? any suggestions to avoid hard resetting when i change sim cards?
thanks.

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Soft reset, won't restart again

OK, I've not read a word of the manual, so maybe I'm doing something wrong. When I soft reset (stylus in the hole) the screen fade away and then it won't for the love of god restart. The first time I did this, I went a little pale. however, if I take out the battery for around five minutes and then plug it back in, it starts up again. Is this wrong?
Also, never quite been able to hard reset the damned thing. I press and hold the two "__" buttons whilst performing the reset, but the same thing happens and I'm never prompted for screen calibration or anything else I'd expect from a hard reset. SOMEBODY HOLD ME
Can someone please talk me through the EXACT and DETAILED procedure and result both a soft reset and hard reset?
For me, on my MDA Pro:
Soft reset: Insert tip of stylus into "reset" hole briefly. Screen fades away to blank and the machine then acts dead. No buttons will bring it back to life. Take the battery out and plug it back in, still dead. Come back after 30 minutes, still dead. It needs the battery removing for at least 5 minutes, maybe more like 10, then reinserting and it springs back to life.
Hard reset: Hold down the two "__" keys (above the 4 and 9 keys) whilst inserting the stylus tip into the reset hole briefly. Exactly the same thing happens as a soft reset - no hard reset is performed.
I'm pretty sure this is all wrong and my device is "special"
Not Right!!!
Xiasma: This is very wrong indeed. I've got access to the jasjar and Pro and neither one displays what you mentioned on yours. The procedure you described for both types of resets is correct. Try one more time holding down the 2 soft keys '_' for half a second then whilst holding them down push the stylus in the soft reset hole in at the back of the device (if in laptop mode).
If you still don't get a hard reset, I'm quite certain you have a faulty unit.
Let us know how you get on :?
Thanks, your reply is very much appreciated. Well, looks like it's a faulty unit, then. It doesn't really affect my day-to-day use, so I'm tempted to keep it until there's an official rom upgrade, RAM hike or something :wink:
have you tried turning the power off (using the...er...power button!) before poking at the reset button...see if that makes any difference?
Any joy with your MDA Pro hard or soft resetting?
xiasma: Have you had any luck with your MDA Pro either soft or hard resetting? I'm interested in knowing for personal reasons also, as I have had to exchange 2 units with t-mobile already, due to what I believe is a very buggy ROM, but I could be wrong and it could be something else. :?

Soft Reset - any consequences?

Is it "bad" to reset my MDA by pressing the soft reset button on the side with the stylus, as opposed to holding down the power button? I can save 5 or 10 seconds by using the soft reset, and I'm impatient. XD
But, if this is going to potentially cause me to lose data or something, then I'll avoid using it unless necessary. For instance it really wouldn't be good if I reset my PC like this, instead of shutting it down properly.
somewhere in the manual...it mentions that you can use either to soft reset, however if you made any registry changes, it might not take effect properly if you force the reset, rather than shutting it off with the power button...

How to Soft Reset

Am i missing something...I coming form windows mobile..I don't see a button under the cover, or way to soft rest...Can someone please share some light?
With Android it's pretty much not needed. It's a pretty rare occasion (I can't say it's every happened with my G1 or MyTouch, so...) when simply holding the power button won't give you the power-down menu, no matter what kind of crazy things an application has done. If things get really bad (a deep down error in the OS... also a very rare occasion) it will more likely reboot itself than simply freeze up.
But if that rare occasion does happen, you'll just pop off the back cover and pull out the battery for a few seconds. No harm, no foul.
Exactly, Worse comes to worst and you pull the battery.
there is a hard reset, go into bootloader (hold trackball and power on phone)and press Reset (Factory Defaults).
Hard reset != soft reset.
Hard reset does not equal soft reset.
Hard reset in Android land is roughly similar to a wipe in WinMo ROM hacking land, except you WILL NOT want to do it after flashing a full ROM, only before.
I know that, thats why I said hard reset not soft reset.
Soft reset: hold down power button+volume down+track ball.
Wonder if there is some application that can do it (like the ones we had on windows mobile)
I imagine it's a superuser function, so, for an app, you would need root access on your phone, and you would need to allow it.
Trackball + Volume Down + Power. Your phone will soft reset after about 2 sec.
kozm0naut said:
I imagine it's a superuser function, so, for an app, you would need root access on your phone, and you would need to allow it.
Trackball + Volume Down + Power. Your phone will soft reset after about 2 sec.
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Does it remove my contact list or it will just reboot the cell phone like we reboot the computer or a windows cell phone using the reset button?
Thanks
It's a soft reset, apps with unsaved data you have running may not save, but other than that it's basically like telling your phone to shut down, then telling it to power back on.

Difference in resets

what is the difference in the following:
clean storage, soft reset (turning phone off) and that red button near the battery
clean storage is a hard reset... ie it wipes all data from your device returning it to factory settings.
soft reset (which can be achieved any number of ways) and the red reset button do the same thing.... reboot the device.
the red reset button is completely redundant imo and i have no idea why HTC put it on the device as it is easier and quicker to simply take the battery out and replace it.
If they really wanted a reset button they should have made it easier to press (ie/ without a pin)
Audio Oblivion said:
the red reset button is completely redundant imo and i have no idea why HTC put it on the device as it is easier and quicker to simply take the battery out and replace it.
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in theory you shouldn't do that when the phone is on, it can (in theory remember) cause sparks that can affect the internals. personally I've yet to try using the red button, seems the prefect size for pressing with a stylus.
samsamuel said:
in theory you shouldn't do that when the phone is on, it can (in theory remember) cause sparks that can affect the internals. personally I've yet to try using the red button, seems the prefect size for pressing with a stylus.
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correct theory... but in practice... ive been doing just that on every mobile phone ive ever had =)
Switching off the phone and after a few seconds switching it on again acts also as a soft reset, so no need for third party apps, red button or battery and it is safe also.
Except that most of the times I need to soft reset it's because the phone is frozen, so no way to switch off
kilrah said:
Except that most of the times I need to soft reset it's because the phone is frozen, so no way to switch off
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Fortunately I never encountered that problem (untill now at least).
I have discovered pulling the battery on my phone causes my email accounts to lose their pop and smtp addresses. Using the red button doesnt. Also when pulling the battery my router security code is gone too.

Is my HD2 dead?

All of sudden, my HD2 died on me when I was using it with CoPilot during my driving. I stopped my car, took out the battery & back on and powered it on. Then loaded up some apps before it started to reboot again. And again. Until it reached the point where it just shows the "HTC" logo and freezes there. I left it switched off for a few days.
Now, today, I powered it on, it showed the HTC logo and then shut down. No reboot.
I have not done a reset yet as I need some data off from it first.
Standard Windows Mobile v6.5. That's it. I can't even get the red text at the HTC logo to come up with the radio number & other details.
Does anyone know what the issue is? Is there a way to get it bacjk up & running without losing my data?
Thanks all
First try a factory reset, press both volume up and down hold in then press the power button wait until you get the banded screen then the white screen - read the instructions.
If its booting its not bricked
Remove your sd card recover what you need then reformat it useing the pc, try EASEUS free edition remove all pertitions before formating
When its booted back correctly, I would consider a task 29 then reinstall the rom of your choice (the search option works well) Good luck
OK, after trying a few battery unplug/plug, I finally got the red text to come up...
R - 2.07.51.22.2
G - 15.32.50.07U
D - 1.66.76641
But it's still stuck at the HTC logo.
johnerz said:
First try a factory reset, press both volume up and down hold in then press the power button wait until you get the banded screen then the white screen - read the instructions.
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Thanks, I assume doing the factory reset will wipe off whatever I have on the phone memory?
tsutton said:
Thanks, I assume doing the factory reset will wipe off whatever I have on the phone memory?
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Yes a hard reset will remove all of your personal data and settings. Before you Hard Reset if you have not already done so. Check your battery pons to make sure you do not have a pin that is slightly bent. I say do thiscause you said it started bootlooping when hou took the battery out, I recommend using the reset button to soft rese.
Also try placing your HD2 in the freezer for like 10 minutes in a plasgic bag to protect it againsg moister and then see if it will boot.Also remove your SD card and see if that helps.
Has given up, did a factory reset and all is good. But sad about the data loss.
Nevermind, moving onward!
Thanks for the helps, all.
tsutton said:
Has given up, did a factory reset and all is good. But sad about the data loss.
Nevermind, moving onward!
Thanks for the helps, all.
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if its on your dash it may have overheated... causing the issue.
sometimes happens to mine.

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