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to protect... or not to protect

a question for those of you who've had their Execs for a little while now: what's the screen like? I was paranoid about scratching mine with the stylus so put a screen protector after a day or two.
problem is it feels so thick that I might as well have thrown a big blanket over the screen... the exec doesn't notice the stylus unless I press really quite hard, so it might be defeating the purpose anyway
what do people think?
is there anyone who has been using theirs for a while without a protector who could say what the screen is like now?

you should use the screen protector. otherwise your screen will look like mine... however, i use it too much...
i've made a mistake and bought a GOOD protector when i noticed the damage on the screen.
So don't be that stupid as me and buy it before it's too late.
BTW, i bought one from www.Innopocket.com and it is still on my screen for last 6 months...
It is non glare, very hard surface, thin protector.
Writing is exactly the same as without it. Screen visibility is much better WITH it, thanx to it's non reflective surface.
buzz

Agree with buzz - you can be as carful as u want but dust on screen makes stylus scratchy.
Having said that, for my last few XDA's they all got scratched, THEN I put a protector on and they look as good as new!

I have had 5 or 6 different pocket pc's over time all of them for at least a year, i never ever used a screen protector and when i sold them they were almust as new without scratches.
My universal wont get a screen protector on that gives me a bad picture quality. i wanna enjoy the great screen on the device, not walking around with a bad screen so the next owner can have a good screen.
just my two cents

the best screen protectors are made by martin fields....you wont even know its there!
go here to buy... www.doml.com

frozenwaffles said:
the best screen protectors are made by martin fields....you wont even know its there!
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yeah - that's the type i'm using... although i'm really not getting on with it - like i say, it feels really thick, and seems to make the screen far less responsive
i spent quite a bit on it, though - so am reluctant to try buying others, and gotta admit, i was hoping to hear that i could just pull it off and forget about it

you should get one from Brando HK. their ultra clear screen protector is the best protector I have ever used on earth.

Yes you should use a screen protector.
Not only does it protect screen it also reduces glair very usefull if you use GPS. I got mine from www.proporta.com ther also do a nice case.
Regards
Colin Bate

I had a wallaby for 12 months & a himalaya for 18 months, both without protectors & both looked fine when it came time to sell. I carried them in my pocket with the screen facing my leg. As you can close the screen on the exec, I'm even less concerned.
However, the anti glare part sounds like a good thing
;-)

teckyiau said:
you should get one from Brando HK. their ultra clear screen protector is the best protector I have ever used on earth.
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Which are the best you've used in other places? j/k

A more resistant screen protector?

Oh, the horror! Look at the attached image; my 6 day old Wizard. Luckily, all the scratches are on the screen PROTECTOR, and not the screen itself.
And herein lies my appeal for a better screen protector. This one is a Boxwave Crystal Shield, and I'm sort of satisfied, in that it protects the screen and was easy to apply (IMO).
BUT, as you can clearly see, 6 days of use gives it plenty of scratches! Screen clarity is still good, but it IS visible on the often used parts (start menu, scroll bar etc).
On my iPod nano, I've applied InvisibleShield (http://www.theinvisibleshield.com) which I'm very satisfied with, but the application procedure requires some amount of water, which I'm not willing to test out on my brand new Wizard (even though IS has a shield available for the Wizard). Also, its texture is a bit "sticky" and I don't think stylus use would be as comfortable.
So, does anyone know of a premium screen protector that could combine the clarity of the Boxwave Crystal Shield and the durability of InvisibleShield (we could call it TurboShield 2000)?. Then don't hold back, tell me NOW!
PS. The picture doesn't represent the amount of scratches properly because of poor lighting. It's actually much worse. I would need to change protectors on a monthly basis with continued use.

I bought a Brando protector last week. Not even the slightest scratch on it yet, though it has been brutalized with SPB Arkaball & other games by my kids. My previous protector was heavily scratched after 6 months of use, that one was included in the package from T-Mobile & very soft. The Brando is anti-reflective, re-useable, washable, scratch-resistent & perfect fitted. Because of the scratch-resistance the touch-screen is a little less responsive, but a got accustomed to it very quick. & very important: NO WATER needed.
So I'm very pleased with, well worth my €15. I would buy it again.
Regards, M

oltp said:
I bought a Brando protector last week. Not even the slightest scratch on it yet, though it has been brutalized with SPB Arkaball & other games by my kids. My previous protector was heavily scratched after 6 months of use, that one was included in the package from T-Mobile & very soft. The Brando is anti-reflective, re-useable, washable, scratch-resistent & perfect fitted. Because of the scratch-resistance the touch-screen is a little less responsive, but a got accustomed to it very quick. & very important: NO WATER needed.
So I'm very pleased with, well worth my €15. I would buy it again.
Regards, M
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Seconded. Get the Ultra Clear one. Very easy to apply.

Done and done! Ordered two (just in case ) Ultra Clear ones from Brando just now. Thanks for your input oltp and Kage Musha!
Offtopic:
That Brando page sure has cheesy design... and that card payment screen looked pretty shady, IMO. :? but I checked around, and saw only good reports, so I concluded that they deserved my business!

Wish you lots of pleasure with it.
Cheers, M

Invisibleshield - Does it affect touchscreenability?

Hi,
I searched but did not get any useful results.
This is about the invisibleshield.
I would like to ask anyone using the invisibleshield, if their screen protector is
1. made of the same material as what is used for the rest of the full body shield,
and also, from my experience with the invisibleshield for iPod, I noticed that it was rather sticky or clingy meaning that it was more of a slightly rubbery than plasticy texture that is found on most common, generic screen protectors. My question is: Will this affect the touchscreenability of the Tilt, meaning that
2. am I able to move my stylus over the screen easily without it being all squeakily resistant to my stylus inputs
3. and if I am able to move my finger across the screen for TouchFlo
4. and finally if using the invisibleshield will somehow make the screen less sensitive as compared to as if I were to use the generic "plastic" screen protector.
Thanks in advance!

Is 'touchscreenability' a real word?

No, I made it up. It sounds nice though.

No, I made it up. It sounds nice though.
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There seems to be an abundance of creating new words on this site. lol.
I prefer the made up word 'touchscreeniness' though
Sorry for nitpicking
I don't have an answer for your query yet, I am yet to purchase the invisible shield. I will probably do so sometime next week.

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes, but I personally doesn't like touching the screen with my fingers. It'll smudges
4. No

Yes, the screen does have some resistance to the stylus. I eventually got used to it because my Kaiser is slow and I need to scroll slowly anyway.
Overall a great product. I'm selling my Kaiser today on eBay (bought it for the video camera and i'm disappointed) and the screen + body is flawless.

Sorry to head about your Kaiser. I didn't think it would be so frustratingly slow.
Thanks for letting me know.

Geraldous said:
Sorry to head about your Kaiser. I didn't think it would be so frustratingly slow.
Thanks for letting me know.
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I just bought a ATT Tilt from eBay and I would need to purchase few accessories.
Can you provide your feedback once you installed the Invisibleshield on your Kaiser/TyTn II? thanks

The Invisibleshield works good after you get use to the feeling of the screen. I've used other shields on my Tilt and I think they are better compared to the Invisibleshield for navigating. I'm actually going to replace it later with one I had before. I do have the invisibleshield on other devices (camera, Dell PDA, old phone) and it works well. With the Tilt, I flash ROMs that are much quicker than the stock ROM and sometimes you have to apply more pressure with the stylus or finger to navigate.
What I would recommend is get the Invisibleshield, try it out and if it doesn't work they have a money back guarantee.

Yes, I found it to be unbearable on my 8GB Zune's screen, So when I got mine for my Tilt, I decided to only install the body protector and install a different screen protector, one made by Javo. The Javo screen protector is excellent, it comes with a cleaning microfiber cloth and a squeegee card, and it is really good. The invisibleshield, on the other hand, makes the screen all colored weird, and it looks like crap.

Thanks for the input. I'm actually fine with the body protector but may do what Crazysamz did, applying a different screen protector for the tilt.

I installed it on my Tilt four days ago. Here is what I think of it: its a piece of sh|t.
1. The screen was hard to see outdoors before, now it is impossible.
2. It feels like I have rubber on my screen.
3. Scrolling with the stylus gives the sensation that you might rip, tear, or stretch the shield due to its adherent grip.
4. I am using S2U2 and cannot get my finger to unlock the phone without a dedicated and concentrated effort. The stylus however, slides the bar with ease.
In my opinion, it is unusable and a horrible waste of money. I should have known this was crap when the instruction said to squeegee the frikin' thing on as if it was a vinyl overlay (which I think it might actually be)!
A good screen protector should be more rigid and solid (like the screen itself). Furthermore, it should have anti-glare coating and not this egg shell looking crap as the invisibleshield has.
The cheap shield I bought from the cart vendor at the mall for $5.00 was much better than this!

jimlivingston said:
I installed it on my Tilt four days ago. Here is what I think of it: its a piece of sh|t.
1. The screen was hard to see outdoors before, now it is impossible.
2. It feels like I have rubber on my screen.
3. Scrolling with the stylus gives the sensation that you might rip, tear, or stretch the shield due to its adherent grip.
4. I am using S2U2 and cannot get my finger to unlock the phone without a dedicated and concentrated effort. The stylus however, slides the bar with ease.
In my opinion, it is unusable and a horrible waste of money. I should have known this was crap when the instruction said to squeegee the frikin' thing on as if it was a vinyl overlay (which I think it might actually be)!
A good screen protector should be more rigid and solid (like the screen itself). Furthermore, it should have anti-glare coating and not this egg shell looking crap as the invisibleshield has.
The cheap shield I bought from the cart vendor at the mall for $5.00 was much better than this!
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Thanks for the detailed review.
But instead of calling it a waste of money, do you think it would be better if you used the shield for the body of the device and another screen protector for the screen? or did you just get the screen protector for it?
I actually have it on my iPod and it does have a very uneven surface when viewing it from an angle, which is quite annoying because it doesn't look that nice.

I bought the screen protector only.

I have the InvisibleShield for my Hermes and my Blackjack (full body kit with the screen protector) and it works alright. It isn't great and it is a little "tacky" (meaning sticky). My biggest complaint is that if you just put your phone in your pocket it will eventually get dirt and pocket lint all round the edges of the protector film (which is a lot of edges if you have the full body kit).
I ended up pulling some of the kit off the Hermes because it looked terrible after a couple months. The big plus to the InvisibleShield is they tend to make a slick/slippery phone much less prone to dropping because they are so sticky.
Right now I'm absolutely in love with the Martin Field's protectors, they are much more rigid and smoother than the InvisibleShield. They work very good for the Tilt/Kaiser and are cut to fit perfect (great for TouchFLO). They are also removable and washable, and much much easier to install than the others I've tried. So far I've bought them for my Tilt, Archos 605, Sony UX, my 2nd Blackjack, HTC S620 and iPod Touch...
If you can't find the link for them let me know and I'll dig up the URL.

I have been a fan of invisibleshield when it came out for ipods. It is still keeping my ipod awesome, but the topic here is touch screen ability. I had it for my wizard. Your screen will be totally protected, but the movement isn't all that great. Feels very rubbery, but you can still click on the screen. I really suggest another protector, but only problem is, you won't get the full protection. but as long as you are careful, with another screen protector, the feel of the screen is worth it.

my only complaint is being too grippy. Like others reported, I have trouble sliding and touchflowing. Its tolerable for me though, not a dealbreaker.

The Invisibleshield is good but it depends on the application. For the Tilt I think it's not a good application (screen protector) as others have said it's not very responsive. However, I do have the invisible shield on other devices such as my digital camera LCD and it works great. They also have a good life time replacement policy.

I have been using the boxwave for my Blackberry and the Overlay plus for my other phones. I love them both and I think I am going to get the Overlay plus for Tilt and get the invisiblesheild body protection for it too.

I'm planning to get the full coverage and I was wondering how does it feel like on the back? Does it feel like you're holding a plastic bag or something? I like how smooth the back of the Kaiser battery door is.

Which screen protector are u using?

Hi folks!
I just checked out ebay and other sources and discovered that a lot of new products for protecting your babies screen hit the market since Brando's Ultra Clear for my Kaiser
I found liquid products, silicone coatings, lotus effect stuff, several new brands, solutions for just the screen or the whole Touch Pro...
Are u using the shipped screen protector or anything else?

Brando, as with any other device.

i'm just using the screen protector that came with the phone...don't really see a reason to use another kind

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i'm just using the screen protector that came with the phone...don't really see a reason to use another kind
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When it wears out, get a Brando or Martin Fields. You will notice a difference.

Martin Fields

which one from brando should I take:
-original
-ultra clear

Exim screen protector... le deluxe! I've been using this brand forever. I don't feel like putting a $5 protector on a once $1050 but now $850 phone.

Take UltraClear, they're better for Touch Pro.

Wich one doesn't smudge as much as the regular one delivered with the device? Or is it just me having greasy fingers?

I have UltraClear and the smudges are all over the screen, I think I'll have to get used to it.

I only use Boxwave. They're the best.
According to this review, they're better than Brando.
http://www.brighthand.com/article/Protect_Your_Screen
I've got one on my Digital Rebel and Nintendo DS. Love them.

wat bout invisible shield any1 use it on ur touch pro
my major problem now is the screen protector that given by htc after a few day of using it has some scratches on the screen protector =/

MPenguin said:
I only use Boxwave. They're the best.
According to this review, they're better than Brando.
http://www.brighthand.com/article/Protect_Your_Screen
I've got one on my Digital Rebel and Nintendo DS. Love them.
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Hmm, a review dating back to 2003, is getting to be a bit old now, don't you think?
I've ordered a Brando one, I've yet to set it.

Not really. We're not dealing with statistics here. Have plastic and adhesive technology changed so much in 5 years?
I've read reviews on the Brando and I've personally used Boxwave.
I'm sure I could find other reviews with different search terms, but it would do little good since you already ordered.
Anyway, no intarweb review is going to tip your mind. Better to just order them and try them out.

I have not received my Touch Pro yet, but I bought a box wave....I've used all except for Brando and I can say for me Box Wave have performed the best so far.

I'm using the Brando Ultra clear.
+It's extremely easy to apply without air pockets underneath.
-It's very fragile and withing a week I have 2 scratches in the screen protector
The screen protector you get with the Touch Pro is a lot less fragile but very crappy when it comes to applying it.

just ordered a box wave so I will report back and let you guys know how I like it. I got the crystal not the anti glare.

Using Exim SPUC Screen Protector since a few days and like it, quality is good, there's even a part to protect the bottom buttons

Just got the antiglare from Brando and applied it. I don't know but it doesnt seem easy for me to apply it properly.
I'll rest now and if I can, share photo of how it looks tomorrow.

Just installed a Boxwave anti-glare protector. The jury is still out for me on the portion that covers the keypad below the screen as it does interfere somewhat with the smoothness of the d-pad and center butten, but I do like the screen protector itself. It is definitely not fingerprint proof like advertised, but I do notice a reduction in glare as well as, more importantly, a good increase in touch sensitivity over the stock unit that came with the device.
I also ordered a crystal version that I have not yet installed.

anti-glare screen protector/film?

anyone found a good anti-glare screen protector or film for the Nexus?
the AMOLED is clearly near worthless in direct sunlight... barely readable even at 100% screen brightness setting (which would drain the battery in no time)...
I've tried the Clarivue ones - the 'anti-glare' ones they claim, but all that is is a matte/brushed finish... which just makes the screen look cloudy all the time... definitely reduces the crispness of the screen...
wondering if there is a solution (even if it's "cut your own") for a film that is smooth and glossy, but has an anti-reflective property to it.... maybe even something with some polarized property....
cheers

here in spain its pretty sunny and everytime that I use my N1 while walking I have to but brightness up to maximum. for me its allright like that even thought drains faster the battery.

So you want something glossy...meaning reflective..that has anti-reflective properties.
Got it.

I may have found something... ordered to try...
the 'DayVue' version of their film - 'anti-reflective' and 'anti-glare'... they have a regular 'anti-glare' as well, which I'm presuming is just a matte finish... But the DayVue sounds like it's what I'm looking for...
http://www.nushield.com/technical.php
http://www.nushield.com/technology.php
http://www.nushield.com/dayvue_antireflective_screen_protector_film.php
http://thedirtytshirt.com/nushield-dayvue-anti-reflective-screen-protector-film-review
Something along the lines of 'museum glass'... smooth and glossy yet extremely anti-reflective... just for reference... for those that don't believe you can have a smooth, yet still anti-reflective surface ... http://www.tru-vue.com/Tru-Vue/Products/33/ ...

MI_canuck said:
I may have found something... ordered to try...
the 'DayVue' version of their film - 'anti-reflective' and 'anti-glare'... they have a regular 'anti-glare' as well, which I'm presuming is just a matte finish... But the DayVue sounds like it's what I'm looking for...
http://www.nushield.com/technical.php
http://www.nushield.com/technology.php
http://www.nushield.com/dayvue_antireflective_screen_protector_film.php
http://thedirtytshirt.com/nushield-dayvue-anti-reflective-screen-protector-film-review
Something along the lines of 'museum glass'... smooth and glossy yet extremely anti-reflective... just for reference... for those that don't believe you can have a smooth, yet still anti-reflective surface ... http://www.tru-vue.com/Tru-Vue/Products/33/ ...
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They don't make a perfect cut protector for the Nexus One

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They don't make a perfect cut protector for the Nexus One
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OyVe... guess I could just get a 3.5' iPhone one and not have the corners covered to see if better... wonder if there is any glare protectors on their website to use with a 3.7' phone that I could order it for and use for the N1

Boxwave makes a pretty decent one. They offer one precut for the N1. I would post a URL but I can't yet.
Any screen protector with anti-glare properties will always make the display slightly cloudy. I got one of boxwave's anti-glare screen protectors for my Moto Cliq and it worked very well. The clouding is very minimal and is hard to notice. It also gives the added benefit of greatly reducing the visibility of fingerprints and smudges.
I just ordered one for the N1 too.

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Boxwave makes a pretty decent one. They offer one precut for the N1. I would post a URL but I can't yet.
Any screen protector with anti-glare properties will always make the display slightly cloudy. I on of boxwave's anti-glare screen protectors on my Moto Cliq and it worked very well. The clouding is very minimal and is hard to notice. It also gives the added benefit of greatly reducing the visibility of fingerprints and smudges.
I just ordered one for the N1 too.
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Thank you, might order this today. I wish there were some actual pictures to see the difference...

I just received the boxwave screen protector a few minutes ago. I attached a picture with it applied. It's not a very good picture though. I don't have manual focus on my camera, so it looks more fuzzy than it actually is. I hope this helps a bit though.
I tried it out in near-direct sunlight outside and there's a definite improvement, especially if you increase the screen brightness. It also makes your finger slide across the screen easier. You don't get that grip feeling like on the glass.

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I just received the boxwave screen protector a few minutes ago. I attached a picture with it applied. It's not a very good picture though. I don't have manual focus on my camera, so it looks more fuzzy than it actually is. I hope this helps a bit though.
I tried it out in near-direct sunlight outside and there's a definite improvement, especially if you increase the screen brightness. It also makes your finger slide across the screen easier. You don't get that grip feeling like on the glass.
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Wow
Thank you Thank you I appreciate it... I'll def get it today now because of your great suggestion.

A glossy surface reflects light.
A matte surface diffuses light.
Glare is light.
You can't have both without witchery.