I have called t-mobile USA and they will unlock my phone, my guess is that it is just the sim but I requested both phone and sim. Any one up on this? Also I have read everything about the unlocking but I have one thing Im not clear on, if its a G4 or G3 it depends on the zero count on the firmware ect. When turning on the Tmob MDZA with 2.26 I just installed from Tmobile last week,
I read some discousion that tmobile was hard to get the info to see if you have a G3 or G4 it didn'tll the zeros there was talk of going in to Bootstrap mode but no talk about how to get out of bootstrap of your not going through with a flash.
I just need to get this out of the way befor I see what my options are for flashing.
It reads
IPL 2.26
SPL 2.26
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2
In the Settings/device info it says
OM Version 2.26.10.2 WWE
ROM Date 6/7/06
Radio Version02.25.11
Protocall Version 4.1.13.12
ExtROM version 2.26.10.105
Many thanks
Ken
You have a G3. If you had a G4 your IPL/SPL would be 2.26.0001 +/- one of those 0's in the .0001 can't remember for sure at the moment but a G3 wont have any of them. I'm not sure where you read that it is difficult to see for sure, it shows your IPL/SPL on the boot screen right after you reboot your phone. You don't need to go into the bootloader for that. As for your other question, T-mobile will sim unloack your phone, but they won't CID unlock it for you. If you want to do that, you should either do it yourself after reading through the CID unlock thread about 3 or 4 times to make sure you fully understand what you're doing or use IMEI-check.
xeno1 said:
You have a G3. If you had a G4 your IPL/SPL would be 2.26.0001 +/- one of those 0's in the .0001 can't remember for sure at the moment but a G3 wont have any of them. I'm not sure where you read that it is difficult to see for sure, it shows your IPL/SPL on the boot screen right after you reboot your phone. You don't need to go into the bootloader for that. As for your other question, T-mobile will sim unloack your phone, but they won't CID unlock it for you. If you want to do that, you should either do it yourself after reading through the CID unlock thread about 3 or 4 times to make sure you fully understand what you're doing or use IMEI-check.
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Thanks, just what I wanted to here, yes I have read & read, I print this info out and read it again, I will take it one step at a time.
Ken
No problem. It's always a good idea to print that stuff out so you can have it sitting right there in front of you while you do it.
Good Luck.
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Just came from the Cingular store. Got an exchange for the messed up on I already had.......... Can anyone tell me how to CID unlock and SIM unlock my phone...
It must be a new one becuase it reads as follows:
ROM version: 2.25.11.1 WWE
ROM date: 5/11/06
RAdio version: 02.25.11
Protocol version 4.1.13.12
ExtRom version: 2.25.11.102
will the normal unlock that is in the custom roms work for my phone???
"try it"
try what
tray what
i got it sim unlocked but how do i do the CID unlock
No - you can only SIM unlock, you can't CID unlock using the free programs available here. (It's possible you can CID unlock from a third-party website that charges for it...I think it's http://www.imei-check.co.uk)
I flashed my 8125 to 2.25 before realizing I needed to CID unlock it first. Fortunately most of my tweaks don't require custom ROMs. I'm sure eventually they will get Lokiwiz to work with the newer ROMs as well.
Uh-oh!! :|
I'm getting an 8125 at the end of this week.......so, if it is has the new ROM on it, then I can't put one of Summiters ROM's on it??
I sure hope not.....
I have an 8125. I lokiwiz unlocked it in software thinking that I needed to unlock it to upgrade from the original to 2.17.
Then I recently upgraded to 2.25 using the official Cingular ROM upgrade download. I am using the phone fine, except that I do not have push email present on it.
How did I upgrade without SIM or CID unlocking it? Why does it say in this thread that I would need to unlock the phone to change the ROM?
Update
This is what I see when I turn the phone on:
IPL 2.25.0001
SPL 2.25.0001
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
Does this make a differnece. When I swapped out my old one in the store they gave me this one and the guy at Cinglar told me it was a brand new one. I saw him get it out the store and on the box the manufacture date was this month June 2006... I have anohter 8125 that I purchased in April and I notice that the flash chips are differnt. How can I load Summiter's new ROM onto this new 8125 has anyone had any luck. I used Lockwiz from this site and it did do the SIM unlock but I can't tell if it did the CID unlock. Can this unit be CID unlocked. I don't want to fry my phone.
interesting that i just got one overnighted to me with the v1.8, i can only speak from my experience so take it for what it's worth, i had the original, i upgraded to the 2.25, and then i was thinking oops i should have cid/sim unlocked my phone, so then what did i do? i used the ship rom download on this site to reset the phone to v1.8 it changed everything back, then i simply ran the lokiwiz02b i believe it was and cid and sim unlocked the phone, and to test i ran an imate kjam ROM just to make sure i actually did it and it worked, sure enough kjam splash screen and poof i was good to go, and then i just updated to summiters rom and voila there you go.
i would expect you could do the same. just use the cingular ship rom v1.8 to go back and then do what i did, i couldnt imagine different results since i just did this last week.
I don't think you can downgrade a phone with the new flash chip (G4 - Rom numbers ending in .0001) because the 1.x Roms don't have IPL/SPL for G4 Chips.
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Hey if that is the case how will they do this. When they release a new rom won't it be available on Cingualr;s site. So there has to be some way to do it. Cingular wouldn't want to confuse the customers. In any event should I just return the phone and hope I get lucky to get one without the new flash chip. Like I said before the phone is SIM unlcoked I am trying ott to get it CID unlocked so that I can use summiter's latest rom
www.imei-check.uk.co claims they can CID unlock it for you.
The trick to changing the Rom would be to not flash the booloader, Summiter has a new multi-installer thingy that will allow you to flash everything except the Bootloader (but you will need to dump the $38.00 for CID unlock).
Or you could report speradic touchscreen problems and do a warranty replacement by calling customer service. See if they send you a G3 phone (which they probably will).
Hi,
I have a new MDA from T-Mobile which I updated to the 2.26 official t-mobile upgrade. I would to back up the device to a mini-sd card from the bootloader; however, am not able to cid-unlock the device (aWizard fails during the write step), and the bootloader is giving me a security level violation error.
Is there a (safe) way to CID-Unlock the device? If not, how else can I do a full backup and guaranteed restore from a mini SD card? I apologize if this has been answered before... I tried to read through the forum however, could not find anything definitive.
Thanks
cid unlocking t-mobile mda
Hi,
I'm from the Netherlands and have exact the same problem.
Can't cid unlock my t-mobile mda.
So if there is an solution i'm interested.
This is the only solution yet: http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php
Read the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=175
Lokiwiz Issues:
Winnie:
Thanks for your response. I tried Lokiwiz. With Lokiwiz 0.3a (LokiwizMsl.bat) and that provided the SIM unlock code. However, I could not figure out a way to CID unlock with the Lokiwiz 0.3a tool. Lokiwiz 0.2b fails to CID unlock the phone. Again, I apologize if I am missing the obvious, however, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks
You're not doing anything wrong. The latest lokiwiz does not include the CID unlock feature, and the last version that does will not unlock 2.25 and above. It may not work on earlier ones either, but I know I have 2.25 and it's not working.
Re: Lokiwiz Issues:
Opppsss....I guess the poster on the link I gave you meant to be SIM Unlock not CID Unlock. I appologize. I just re-read the link and realized that. I'm sorry.
I think the only solution is to CID unlock before you upgrade to ROM 2.26. I read from some other threads as well that this upgrade does not require you to redo the CID unlock. Could anyone confirm me on this?
Thanks
acerbix said:
Winnie:
Thanks for your response. I tried Lokiwiz. With Lokiwiz 0.3a (LokiwizMsl.bat) and that provided the SIM unlock code. However, I could not figure out a way to CID unlock with the Lokiwiz 0.3a tool. Lokiwiz 0.2b fails to CID unlock the phone. Again, I apologize if I am missing the obvious, however, what am I doing wrong?
Thanks
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I can confirm that the CID unlock is (so far...) completely permanent once done... I think, however, that you have to unlock with a 1.xx rom, not ANY 2.xx rom. In other words, I do not think that it is just 2.25 and up or just 2.26 that you can't unlock I think it is any rom that starts with a 2. If someone could confirm, it would be appreciated... I do believe that there is some sort of temporary workaround to flash a new rom without CID unlock, but I am not sure how (I am unlocked), or even where I saw that... :roll:
Hi,
Thanks for your responses: Is there a way to downgrade to an official 1.08 ROM, and then CID unlock the device, and then bump back up to a 2.26 ROM?
Thanks
i was thinkin of doin that. when i bought my mda it came with the 1.8 rom, and i upgraded it to 2.26. now i be wantin to cid unlock it.
so i was thinkin of tryin to install the 1.8 rom and cid unlock it. but the question is will the 1.8 rom install properly after 2.26 is installed
Before you attempt to downgrade from a 2.x to 1.x Rom you need to be aware of a few things.
1. If you have a G4 flash chip YOU CANNOT DOWNGRADE TO A 1.x ROM. (Search for G4, to determine this)
2. You will need to use the modified RUU package from a custom Rom which is hacked to always think your phone as Rom version 1.2 installed (again a little searching will explain better)
3. If you try this, your IPL & SPL (bootloaders) will get out of sync (one will remain 2.x). This is a dangerous situation for your phone and you just might brick it!
4. If you read up on how to "cook your own Rom" (yep search for it) you can create Roms without bootloaders which don't need your phone to be CID unlocked.
Starcruiser1229 said:
I can confirm that the CID unlock is (so far...) completely permanent once done... I think, however, that you have to unlock with a 1.xx rom, not ANY 2.xx rom. In other words, I do not think that it is just 2.25 and up or just 2.26 that you can't unlock I think it is any rom that starts with a 2. If someone could confirm, it would be appreciated... I do believe that there is some sort of temporary workaround to flash a new rom without CID unlock, but I am not sure how (I am unlocked), or even where I saw that... :roll:
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Ah ha, so there is a risk of say putting in Tmobile's oem 2.26 rom (or future oem roms) to re SIM and CID lock then.
I myself have an 8125 with ipl/1.08 : 1.08, gsm : 01.16.11, os : 1.8.11.1 and was thinking of upgrading to Tmo's 2.26.
Starcruiser1229 said:
I can confirm that the CID unlock is (so far...) completely permanent once done... I think, however, that you have to unlock with a 1.xx rom, not ANY 2.xx rom. In other words, I do not think that it is just 2.25 and up or just 2.26 that you can't unlock I think it is any rom that starts with a 2. If someone could confirm, it would be appreciated... I do believe that there is some sort of temporary workaround to flash a new rom without CID unlock, but I am not sure how (I am unlocked), or even where I saw that... :roll:
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Ah ha, so there is a risk of say putting in Tmobile's oem 2.26 rom (or future oem roms) to re SIM and CID lock then.
I myself have an 8125 with ipl/1.08 : 1.08, gsm : 01.16.11, os : 1.8.11.1 and was thinking of upgrading to Tmo's 2.26.
Starcruiser1229 said:
I can confirm that the CID unlock is (so far...) completely permanent once done... I think, however, that you have to unlock with a 1.xx rom, not ANY 2.xx rom. In other words, I do not think that it is just 2.25 and up or just 2.26 that you can't unlock I think it is any rom that starts with a 2. If someone could confirm, it would be appreciated... I do believe that there is some sort of temporary workaround to flash a new rom without CID unlock, but I am not sure how (I am unlocked), or even where I saw that... :roll:
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Ah ha, so there is a risk of say putting in Tmobile's oem 2.26 rom (or future oem roms) to re SIM and CID lock then.
I myself have an 8125 with ipl/1.08 : 1.08, gsm : 01.16.11, os : 1.8.11.1 and was thinking of upgrading to Tmo's 2.26.
kyphur said:
Before you attempt to downgrade from a 2.x to 1.x Rom you need to be aware of a few things.
1. If you have a G4 flash chip YOU CANNOT DOWNGRADE TO A 1.x ROM. (Search for G4, to determine this)
2. You will need to use the modified RUU package from a custom Rom which is hacked to always think your phone as Rom version 1.2 installed (again a little searching will explain better)
3. If you try this, your IPL & SPL (bootloaders) will get out of sync (one will remain 2.x). This is a dangerous situation for your phone and you just might brick it!
4. If you read up on how to "cook your own Rom" (yep search for it) you can create Roms without bootloaders which don't need your phone to be CID unlocked.
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ah well, that sounds like a massive pain in the ass... i dont have the patience for that anyways i already bought a card specifically to back up the rom in any case, and i dont doubt that the wizard community will come up with something. in the meantime, ive got no major hangups with 2.26, besides the occasional freeze
kyphur said:
Before you attempt to downgrade from a 2.x to 1.x Rom you need to be aware of a few things.
1. If you have a G4 flash chip YOU CANNOT DOWNGRADE TO A 1.x ROM. (Search for G4, to determine this)
2. You will need to use the modified RUU package from a custom Rom which is hacked to always think your phone as Rom version 1.2 installed (again a little searching will explain better)
3. If you try this, your IPL & SPL (bootloaders) will get out of sync (one will remain 2.x). This is a dangerous situation for your phone and you just might brick it!
4. If you read up on how to "cook your own Rom" (yep search for it) you can create Roms without bootloaders which don't need your phone to be CID unlocked.
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ah well, that sounds like a massive pain in the ass... i dont have the patience for that anyways i already bought a card specifically to back up the rom in any case, and i dont doubt that the wizard community will come up with something. in the meantime, ive got no major hangups with 2.26, besides the occasional freeze
I'm posting this as a new thread because it relates to a number of issues and I didn't see any single thread that seems to cover the combination.
I just bought a T-Mobile MDA (US) and I really need to unlock, upgrade to t-mobile ROM 2.26, and then download the fix mentioned here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38898&highlight=) to make this MDA compatible with both WLAN 802.11b and g.
I absolutely have to accomplish this within the next 5 days (before I leave to do a photo shoot in Germany) because I intend to use the phone as a modem to send large files (800+KB) to clients using the internet, and its too slow and too expensive to do this while roaming on a US SIM card!
Relevant phone specs:
T-mobile MDA (US)
IPL/SPL unknown
ROM ver 1.8.10.2WWE
ROM date 12/10/05
Radio ver 01.09.10
Protocol ver 4.0.13.20
Ext ROM ver 1.8.10.104
I have read many of the posts on this forum, especially the lokiwiz threads, and others relating to upgrading and wi-fi, and I think I am about ready to give it a try. But, I'm pretty nervous. This is my first experience with an MDA (or any PDA type device) and I’m afraid I might really screw something up then not have the use of the phone at all. Could someone please look over what I plan to do and let me know if I’m about to toast my MDA? All warnings and advice will be greatly appreciated.
STEP 1: Based on everything I've read, it appears that I need to first unlock the SIM AND CID using lokiwiz ver 0.2b before I upgrade the ROM. I may not need to unlock the CID at all, but since I’m not sure about that, and since it appears that once I upgrade the ROM to ver 2.26 the lokiwiz programs will not unlock the CID, I figure I’d better do it first.
STEP 2: Do I need to download the NewROMUpdate Utility_Wizard_NoID.exe? I’m guessing that I don’t need it to do the T-Mobile upgrade since it’s an official rom straight from the t-mobile website, but am I going to need to download this before I can do the WLAN fix?
STEP 3: Upgrade to the t-mobile ROM ver 2.26. I’m not sure if the upgrade will affect the IPL/SPL versions, but I’m assuming that if it does, it will affect them in such a way that they will both still be the same version. I’m concerned about this only because I’ve read that I should not switch to a different carrier (ie. T-Punkt or Vodofone) if not CID unlocked, and I should not change IPL or OS only, and I can only CID unlock when both the IPL and SPL are the same version. Violating any of these rules can toast my MDA??
To complicate the matter, I don't know what the current IPL/SPL version(s) is and I don't know how to find out.
STEP 4: Assuming Steps 1 - 3 go smoothly, (eternal optimist here) I’m would then download the DJVW HTC Wizard Optimizer 2.0.cab to enable the 11g wi-fi.
Now, what are the chances that I can execute all this in the next few days without toasting my MDA,, or if not toast, something more like dried bread? Could someone please help me out with this? Am I going in the right direction (i.e. unlock with v 0.2b first, then upgrade ROM to 2.26, then download wi-fi fix)? Will I need the NewROMUpdate Utility_Wizard_NoID.exe to do this?
PLEASE HELP????
I have just bought a 8125 running 1.8.11.1 rom, 11/24/05. This phone is unlocked and I am using my old AT&T sim. If I upgrade to the new 2.25 rom will my phone still work with the AT&T blue sim.
Thanks so much!!!!
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Just checked and it is not cid unlocked. How can this be working with my blue sim?
Will the new cingular 2.25 update diasable my phone.
Thanks so much for your input!!!
Cid unlocking unlocks your phone for using custom kitchens. Sim unlocking unlocks your phone to use other providers sim cards. It is best to unlock both. Use lokiwiz. There is a sticky somewhere in the wizard section of xda that will tell you how to do it. Read everything carefully. Any modifications you do, you do at your own risk. Read the wiki, the stickies, etc before customizing. By reading it, you understand the how's and why's.
If my phone is simm unlocked now and I upgrade rom to 2.25 off HTC cingular sight will it still work with my AT&T blue simm?
Thanks!
As I said before...once cid/sim unlocked, always cid/sim unlocked...flashing different roms will not relock the device...BUT it needs to be both cid/sim unlocked if you are flashing from a kitchen. And yes, if it is sim unlocked, ANY sim will work in the device.
pglickenhaus said:
If my phone is simm unlocked now and I upgrade rom to 2.25 off HTC cingular sight will it still work with my AT&T blue simm?
Thanks!
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As long as you have a SIM it will work...it does not matter if you have blue, red or yellow...
CID unlock will help to install different OS...READ (I mean READ!!!) the wiki and stickies...
thanks so much for your replies. I did upgrade to the htc 2.25 rom and really dont see much difference and yes the sim still works.
Thanks again
Hi There,
I have a T-Mobile MDA (US version), I believe it's called a Vario.
I've been researching on how to unlock it to use with other carriers. I think I have a problem since the start screen shows the following:
IPL: 2.26
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 02.25.11
OS: 2.26.10.2
I've attached an image of the start screen.
How do I unlock? What version of Lokiwiz etc do I use?
Do I have to down grade first to lower versions of IPL/SPL etc?
Could someone please help me.
Thank You very much.
Read the Software upgrading thread, and there should be stickys there.
The best thing to do is read, no one is going to do it for you, your are the one that is going to unlock your phone
Oh and boost mobile is IDEN and CDMA only so you wont have any luck on that the wizard is GSM only
Hey ultraprimeomega ,
Thank you for your reply.
I did read through all the threads.. it was very confusing.
From what I know, if I use the version of Lokiwiz that everyone uses my MDA will brick.
Thus I'm trying to find what version I can use with my IPL: 2.26 / SPL: 2.26 phone.
I believe MetroPCS will be able to give me a SIM for my GSM MDA.
I'm handing the MDA to a friend who wants to move from a contract to a month to month service due to her financial situation.
In any case, I want to be able to unlock the phone before I give it up.
I am reading up, but if you happen to know which, please do let me know it'll cut down my search time and ambiguity a lot.
Thank You.
First thing is that you do have a G3 device(best version i think no draw backs or limitations)
Go here and read all of it, i just read it and seems overkill, but just read
when i did it, it was easy to read posts because most were just noobs not retarded
so after a few years this place has more post that are pointless and the good post are in archive maybe
Faria, Loki, Dr. Putt, molski...and before M$ told us to remove the roms off the FTP good old days........lol
You seem like a noob so tell you what just pim me if you have a question and i will reply asap
because the post is confusing even for me
I have the same device, when I unlocked it the IPL didn't changed (2.17) but the SPL gone to 3.08, there's no way for me to change that IPL...