I signed up for the T-Mobile USA internet (GPRS) few days ago.
I could establish the connection using my Universal.
I could browse most web sites, and could download emails from my company exchange server and Hotmail.
Only one strange thing, i could never download emails from Gmail. It will go to the login process, and when it reaches the Sending and Receiving... it will go forever.
I also noticed that I could not browse any google.com web sites including www.google.com, mail.google.com, news.google.com etc..
I tried to get T-Mboile technical support help but it has been useless and helpless. Somebody told me that it might be something to do with the MTU size that the T-Mobile network can pass along today.
If I swicth over the connection to Wifi or dial up via GSM, I can reach everything including Gmail and Google web sites just fine, from the same device (Universal).
Any one, that uses T-Mobile USA GPRS as well, can you please help?
Thanks.
hey I have t-mobile usa also but with the PDA2K (BlueAngel) when I was running WM5.0 and now back to 2003se I had no problems connecting to google.com/pda but I do know that their is a registry hack to make it go to the default google.com but I wouldn't advise it, becuase it interfeirs with other web sites.
Also T-Mobile has 2 data plans WAP and Total Internet the wap is limited to wap sites and such but the other is open to all sites, check your settings to make sure you are connecting to GPRS and not WAP.....
The difference is like 20 or 30 a month though
WAP 19.99 or 9.99
GPRS 29.99 and up for MyMail or VPN MyMail
I have the full GPRS (the new name: Total Internet for $30). Now its bundled with the hotspot and they are not longer offering the $20 for GPRS only.
Can you tell me what access point you set in your device? Mine is set to wap.voicestream.com and use no proxy. i noticed some ppl posted before that they proxy instead.
Thanks.
your connection is incorrect if you notice it is set to wap. even though you have the total internet that is only connecting you to the wap
your access point should be
internet2.voicestream.com or
internet3.voicestream.com
I used 3 on WM5 and it was fine I also use 3 on wm2003se
negative. I could connect to internet2.voicestream.com but not internet3.voicestream.com
internet2.voicestream.com gives me exactly same result.
I can connect to any websites but not google.com with both wap.voicestream.com as well as internet2.voicestream.com
very strange. anybody in Texas particularly has same issue?
I'm out of Massachusetts, but was in Dallas a few days ago and had no problem connecting to Google. I use internet2.voicestream.com
This issue has been driving me nuts for 6 months. I've been trying to nail down the problem, I'm wondering if it's a regional setting with T-mobile's servers or incorrect account set ups. Some people with other Universals and Wizards in other area's claim they do not have this problem.
Here's a general thread on Ho-fo that's been getting some hits, when I posted about it here on XDA forums there wasn't much response.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=605044
I actually have a couple friends how work for T-mob that thought the problem was with my JasJar until they got ahold of the MDA and discovered the exact same problem.
I've emailed google, just got a response saying they would forward the concern to their tech's. Please share any info or response you get so we can try to get this resolved!!
I've actually had the same problem and I'm on Cincinnati Bell (which is also Cingular & AT&T). I used to be able to connect with no problem on my PDA2k but with the Universal I can't connect. Actually, I've been able to hit the www.google.com/pda site and type in a search but then it just sits & spins forever.
I have the same problem with my MDA from T-mobile. It only happens sometimes. It always connect to google and m.gmail when using wi-fi, but is very hit or miss when connected over GPRS.
Thats the least of my problems however, as I am constantly getting dropped from the GPRS data network even with full coverage, and I'm in the NYC area. I have alerted T-mobile to both problems and am considering turning in my device since i still have a week to do so not because of the device but because of the connection issues with the network.
This has been a bit of a nightmare when it comes to email, because I came from using a blackberry where all my accounts were instantly pushed, to this now when sometime i get email, sometimes not, my Gmail doesnt work properly, and it can take a half an hour for the email to finally reach me.
No problems here
I have no problems connecting to Google.com from my Blue Angel, or from my friend's Wizard. I'm still waiting for my Universal.
I don't have Total Internet Plan, though. I just have the T-Zones hack: In Settings/Connections/Connections, go to "Edit my proxy server" and select "Advanced". HTTP server should be set to 216.155.165.50:8080. Any other HTTP settings should be cleared.
I've noticed in the past two days, however, that Google seems to have changed what it considers a "mobile device", based on the client's User-Agent string. It goes to www.google.com/xhtml if it detects a mobile device. Previously it went to www.google.com/pda , but for a smaller number of devices. Google's "mobile" page has fewer links on it, and is not as useful as the main page.
I use NetFront 3.2, which allows me to change the User-Agent string to make it look like a desktop browser. Today I changed it to:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; en) Opera 8.51
I also changed the language/platform to en/x86.
This seems to make Google go back to the normal page.
But no connectivity problems are happening with GPRS. I can search Google, browse results, search newsgroups, search News, etc.
There was an T-mobile outage reported in California last week (search HowardForums). Perhaps this is related (routing issues?).
PS: It seems to depend on the User-Agent, whether www.google.com/pda or www.google.com/xhtml is used. If I run Pocket Internet Explorer, it still goes to /pda (searches work fine). If I run NetFront with factory settings, it goes to /xhtml. If I run Opera, or change Netfront as above, then it goes to the Google main page. In no cases does it have problems connecting. Response is a little faster on the main page, though, which would seem to indicate that Google Mobile does something which is slower.
[rant]
Google saying that they "don't support T-Mobile devices with Google Mobile" is like saying "best viewed with xxx browser". The phone provider should have no effect on the usability. Nor should Google have to go out of their way to provide a different experience for Mobile users, or to second-guess their needs based on a User-Agent string -- anyone with any browser should be able to use Google, and nothing special should be done for mobile.
I say disable Google Mobile, by changing the User-Agent.
[/rant]
I have a T-Mobile MDA with the Total Internet plan and Google works fine for me.
Thanks for feedback folks. This isn't a new issue, I've had this problem for 6 months. I currently have my user agent set to IE 5.5/NT so that I can access my bank web page, I've tried several combinations of user-agent settings with no luck, can you explain the exact changes I'd need to make to try your current setting?
Also, I'm hoping that when Netfront releases a WM5 compatible version I can run through a proxy server (which I've also heard solves the problem).
This is with Blue Angel (SX66), WM2003, T-Mobile T-Zones proxy, NetFront 3.2, so your mileage may vary. I will be getting an O2 Exec any day now.
Tools/Browser Setting/Misc/User Agent/Edit
Title: (anything you want to call it)
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; en) Opera 8.51
appName: (blank)
appVersion: (blank)
appCodeName: (blank)
language/platform: en / x86
Tools/Browser Setting/Network/Proxy (T-Zones only, not Total Internet)
Use Proxy: (checked)
Proxy (hostort) 216.155.165.50:8080
Note that NetFront 3.3 is coming out soon. I'm sure it will support WM5.0, but right now Access says "(* Its verification is not completed.)"
Have you tried Opera? It works with T-Zones proxy, at least in WM2003, if you set the proxy in the GPRS Connection Settings.
It might be worth trying the T-Zones hack. Go to My T-Mobile, log in, and then go to this T-Zones page (if that does not work, go to "Plan&Services, Learn About Services, Communication, T-Zones"). Add T-Zones (aka T-MobileWeb) to your plan. Then you should be able to use the proxy as described above. You can remove it later if you don't want to pay the $6/month extra. Some people have even reported being able to add it and remove it immediately, but keep the services.
I tested to connect to the internet via T-Mobile GPRS with my universal as a USB modem hooked up to my laptop.
And it gives a totally different behaviour compared when used directly from the Universal (with pocket IE and Mail application).
Besides a decent speed, I could browse to google, perform search etc, everything seems to work perfectly (from my laptop, Universal as a USB modem). When I browse the same thing again from the Universal, same problem occured again, never get any search result back from google, and GMail will stuck in the step "Sending and Receiving..." which will go forever until it times out.
I also tested with my Wallaby the same thing to make sure its not the device problem, and it turned out the same problem exists also.
I really could not pin point where the problem is. Please help to think, folks. Its not the device problem? Is it T-Mobile GPRS network problem? Or what?
Are there packet sniffers for PPC? Something like tcpdump, traceroute, ping? That would be my next step. See where it's hung up.
There are some PPC tools for that stuff, I played with an app called TCPTune (I think) but couldn't accomplish anything, I'm totally ignorant of the network stuff.
Re: No problems here
leek said:
In Settings/Connections/Connections, go to "Edit my proxy server" and select "Advanced". HTTP server should be set to 216.155.165.50:8080. Any other HTTP settings should be cleared.
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Holly crap I made this change (still with full Tmob internet plan) and a few registry edits based on your Netfront settings (probably butchered my registry) and manually forced a connection via my WAP settings and THEN LOADED GOOGLE OVER GPRS!! FULL HTML GOOGLE, NEWS GMAIL, IMAGES, ON MY JASJAR VIA GPRS OMG!! I'm really feeling very strong emotional feelings of like towards you right now Leek! :lol:
I'm having some trouble with google local not returning results (starts to load a page with a text box and then stops), not sure why but I suspect it's a problem with my hacked up user agent registry settings.
So, here's my question - I really don't mind paying the full $20 for regular GPRS (and wouldn't want to worry about full access via the $4.99 tzones going away), how do I either make this work using my regular GPRS settings (so I don't have to use an alternate connection) or how do I get the WAP settings to work as my primary settings for all programs? I was able to update my feeds and load images over this WAP settings just fine, but when I tried to check my email or load Agile messenger it tried to load my regular GPRS settings.
In order to figure out exactly which change made this work I went back and reset my PPC to a backup from last night. The only registry edits I have now are my old ones that made PIE show the version as "MSIE 5.5" & the platform as "Windows NT 5.0". Other than the changes below, I'm using the T-mobile CAB settings from i-mate.
I went into settings > connections > and below My Work Network I went to Manage existing settings and then clicked on the Proxy Settings Tab. The two check boxes were already checked but the proxy server was blank so I entered the 216.155.165.50 and then click on advanced. and it then showed that server under Type HTTP but the port was 80 not 8080, I then clicked on the HTTP server and edited the port to 8080 and then hit ok. I left all the other servers that were listed as is.
From the main Connections > Settings screen I then clicked on manage existing connections, it brought up the T-mobile WAP connection and then I click-held on that and selected connect. I then loaded PIE, navigated to Google and grinned as it loaded everything.
Under this connection type most other web pages I've been trying work fine, although some (like howard forums and search.yahoo.com) don't work. *edit hofo might be down right now*
The problem I was having initally with Google local (via web, haven't tried the local java app) is resolved and it now loads fine, as I suspected it must have been my hacked up user agent registry settings. I'm now also able to check and send POP email with this WAP connection, Agile Messenger connects to the servers.
Big thanks to leek for posting this fix here, now how can I make this my default connection and should I try to downsize my account to just the $5 tzones account?
found how to make it the default connection method (connections > settings > advanced > select networks > and then set the top drop down to "my work network".
Leek, buddy, I owe you a case of beer... This had been driving me nuts for 6 months, you solved it!!!
hi galt and leek,
I'm so excited to read that you guys succesfully solved this.
i could not try it out anymore, I changed my T-Mobile plan yesterday, I removed my total internet plan as I don't want to pay $30 per month without even able to access my primary email account: Gmail and google around.
SO, can you give summary again how to make this works?
I assume no extra application to install beside all standard application built in WM5.
Pls clarify:
1. Get T-MobileWeb /t-zones plan ($5.99)
2. set the proxy setting for HTTP with the port 8080 and left others empty (including the SOCKS, WAP)
3. Use the APN: wap.voicestream.com
Do I miss anything? Any reqistry setting I have to make?
That's it? And you can have full access to the internet? Can you clarify if Gmail is working via POP3?
I tried the proxy setting when I still had my total Internet plan but it did not work out. :`(
Hello.
I have a HTC Touch (Elfin) and have recently gave up my option for 10MB Mobile Internet for a Vodafon Live option with 500MB included.
I realised then that the Vodafone Live connection implies using a http/wap proxy wich will only allow internet acces for the web browser (Internet Explorer as well as Opera or Opera Mini work fine) but not for other applications like Instant Messenger Clients, Games or other similar.
I would like to know first of all if there is a way of tricking that proxy connection so I can be able to use other applications with online functionality.
Secondly, if that is not possible (as I suspect) I would like to ask if there are other applications (besides internet browsers) that could youse a http connection for their purpose. Most important would be an Instant Messaging one with Yahoo protocol support.
Thank you for your help.
edit:
In case it matters, this aplies to Vodafone Romania.
For Vodafine Live, the apn is live.vodafone.com (user live, pass vodafone) and the proxy are only defined for http (with 8080 port) and wap (with 9201 port). Secure wap and socks proxy are undefined so probably cannot be used/
Same problem here. Help would be very apreciated to make aplications like outlook , messenger or VNC client to work with http proxy conection.
@glumetzu : incearca shmessenger , e facut de romani si merge pe Java
i have same issue, but there is a workaround kinda...
i came back to romania now to visit family and i got a sim card, number and prepaid data service with vodafone.
my apn is live.pre.vodafone.com, but uses the same user/pass and proxy settings and suggested above.
i noticed that once i connected with microsoft rdp, it wouldnt work. nor would my internet video security cameras from home, which all use different ports.
now here is the strange bit. using another apn without a proxy worked fine on the phone itself. i forget which one it was, and will not test now to find out. it was either live.vodafone.ro or live.vodafome.com but without using the proxy settings. it worked for me no problem. the problem was once i connected to the laptop to use the usb internet sharing. i took the money from the voice phone balance and after a few hours i was disconnected. both data and calls couldnt be made since the balance was -1.19 euro lol
anyways, point is there is an apn settings that seems to work on the phone only without limits in regards to ports or proxies. this worked fine without killing my account balance. it was only once i connected with the laptop that it killed it.
i'm currently researching on how the network gateways are able to detect this.
however using the proxy server with the apn live.pre.vodafone.com i am able to use my full 250mb package from the laptop without affecting the voice package account balance, not sure how or why this works but i have confirmed this in real-time while at a vodafone store in cluj. the sales lady had access to monitor voice and data usage for my account and we tested using the apn and proxy with the laptop. it didnt affect the voice plan money.
so for a quick answer, you can use a laptop and tether the connection. but be careful and double check ur balance after u download a test file using the laptop, just to make sure it wont kill ur account balance.
also, it works now. but for how long? more research is needed and maybe i need to play around with programs like ztunnel or an http proxy app that can tunnel ALL active connections from port to port and vpn through my home network. that would make it more secure and less likely to be picked up by the isp since they would only see port 80 activity going to one place all the time....
Hey everyone!
i was just wondering if there is any way to enable wap for applications in x10?
we can only use the main browser through wap...!
we can't use timescape or facebook or ebuddy or marketplace, track id or any other application.
any solution for this?
Thanks
By WAP you mean GPRS connection right? I'm using it for everything except Youtube when WiFi off
Have you set the GPRS setting? Or just do auto settings under mobile network settings?
I read on an other forum that there were people who had the same problem.
As I like to buy the x10, I'm really curious what might cause this. Unfortunally I haven't got a reaction on my question.
So I you find a solution, can you post it here?
Thx
holy_reds said:
By WAP you mean GPRS connection right? I'm using it for everything except Youtube when WiFi off
Have you set the GPRS setting? Or just do auto settings under mobile network settings?
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no, by wap i mean wap. Gprs is a complete different thing. In my country GPRS service cost 25$ for 250mb only.
wap is already unlimited for 5$ only. And i was using wap connection on my iphone (browser, opera mini, push/email, ebuddy, marketplace/itunes).
Now i cant use WAP with any of these applications! only the default browser is enabled. any solution ? :s
GPRS is a connection type, like WCDMA or CSM.
WAP is more like HTML, a data type. The default android browser can't display WAP formatted pages.
Do you mean dial up internet?
Wap is a gprs connection that uses a proxy server with a port: 80 or 8080
it is clear now ?
Shady.ak said:
Now i cant use WAP with any of these applications! only the default browser is enabled. any solution ? :s
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If you are with Rogers would you mind giving me a hand how to set it up for WAP on the default browser? Just a list of the settings will do. I tried different APN settings from various online sources and the settings from my old W810 but I couldn't even get browsing to work! I tried setting Opera Mini to use HTTP instead and of course nothing works. The unlimited browsing only plan I have is simply a waste at the moment. Thanks!
EDIT: after trying a few things I was able to get the default browser working... but no, the other apps don't work with WAP... not even if I set Opera Mini to use HTTP.
ok, i was having this problem too and i found a way around it.
you have to go to your APNs and edit the APN you are using.
go to the port tag (should be labeled as 80) and erase it making it blank.
save>restart your phone, everything should work fine.
iphonepimp said:
ok, i was having this problem too and i found a way around it.
you have to go to your APNs and edit the APN you are using.
go to the port tag (should be labeled as 80) and erase it making it blank.
save>restart your phone, everything should work fine.
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Tried this and only the default browser works...
I have experienced the same issues as described above,
if the default browser is working correctly however stand alone apps fail it may be the APN used has restrictions disabling the use of non-browser data traffic, commonly networks will have a minimum of 3 APNs, e.g WAP, MMS, and Internet.
On this basis I would recommend you ask you provider for the details of thier internet APN (commonly used when using your phone as a modem or email account access) and test accordingly.. if everything works this would confirm restrictions are in place, and a requirement to use an unrestricted APN for full functionality.
As noted different APNs may have differnt charging structures, hence the limitations sometimes when using wap apn access.
iphonepimp said:
go to the port tag (should be labeled as 80) and erase it making it blank.
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The port for my APN (Japanese version) was left blank by default, but I couldn't access my hosted email and website on the X10. Every other website and email worked fine. When I added 80 as the port, I can now access my hosted email and website without a problem.
I'm happy that this seems to have fixed it, but does anybody know why setting the port to 80 worked for me but gave problems for others?
had simualr problem ... calt my x1 support they said that i need to turn on roaming and then it workt .. this is becouse i use tele2 and they dont have there own network they only rent it from netcom so you need to turn on roaming that can be found in settings >wirreles network>mobile network (can have aother name ..my mobile is in norwegiang .. )try that,