It strikes me that a WiFi equiped Windows Mobile phone (particularly 3G) has all the hardware and processing power needed to act as a WiFi access point or even a full router. This would be a lot easier method of getting cellular internet access for a laptop than the traditional modem emulator approach, and would also be a lot more versitile, for example allowing simultaneous access to several PC's.
Is there any software or projects in hand to do this? Would be complicated of course, but I guess a lot of the necessary components are available for other platforms as open-source which could be ported.
This is something I asked for in german forums long time ago.
Why it isn't possible to select Wifi for Internet Sharing. This would make it easy to connect many PCs and XBoxes and Playstations with Internet easily.
Any MCP of other Windows Mobile specialist out there?
Will this be available in the near future? Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) with the build in WiFi feature?
I use the HTC Tytn and have some equipment only with WiFi support. Nintendo DS Lite (Maybe the latency will kill me in games ) and a Archos 604 WiFi player.
Best Regards Tom
Any news with this? It would be really cool to share GPRS/UMTS over wifi... using my DS in a cab would be great!
I am really interested in this also.
Would be pretty amazin.
Would be awesome!!!
Yes, can somebody create a cab like Internet Connection Sharing but with WiFi to select. The Hardware should be able to do this.
It's really bad now to have Internet over GPRS/HSDPA but not be able to share on many PC or Playstations/XBox360s!
Wow, this thread died a couple years ago... has anything aside from walkinghotspot or winmo wifirouter come along that can do this task without costing money or burning the cell phone into oblivion after 30 seconds of use!?!? Thanks
Reading could be sometimes really hard, aren't it?
HTC CM WiFi Internet Sharing
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animelover said:
Reading could be sometimes really hard, aren't it?
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Yeah I know about that app, saw it last week... still can't get it to work like a lot of people. I would surmise that's why wifi router is $29, and this is free.
Also, your grammar above was deplorable, what gives?
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Yeah I know about that app, saw it last week... still can't get it to work like a lot of people. I would surmise that's why wifi router is $29, and this is free.
Also, your grammar above was deplorable, what gives?
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I'm guessing his grammar is not top notch because he is german... I bet his English grammar is 100 times better than your German grammar. Just remember you are in an INTERNATIONAL forum and not everyone speaks proper English.
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I'm guessing his grammar is not top notch because he is german... I bet his English grammar is 100 times better than your German grammar. Just remember you are in an INTERNATIONAL forum and not everyone speaks proper English.
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ouch!!!!!!
I gotcha... just seemed like he was being sarcastic.
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I would surmise that's why wifi router is $29, and this is free.
Also, your grammar above was deplorable, what gives?
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that is just the dumbest thing to say. there are many many free softwares available in this forum for free, and they are way better than any commercial offering. most of the applications here aren't even available if you were to have money to spend for it.
by the way, the htc wifi router software isnt free. if you buy an htc phone, chances are you have paid for it. if you dont own an htc device, i dont think htc would be happy about you using their software for free.
also, please have an open minded. with any internet forum, anyone in the world can participate and become a member. there are people all over the world that english isnt their first language. i hope you know this, so please excuse their english grammatical errors.
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There is a utility in Windows XP called "Dialer". You can configure it to use the modem connected to the computer to make voice calls. It is located in the folder Program Files\Windows NT:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...ddocs/en-us/dialer_whatis_intro.mspx?mfr=true
In the past, I have used dedicated modems over land-lines to place voice calls using Dialer. In theory, wouldn't it be possible to configure this same utility to place a voice call with the wireless modem built-in to the Shift?
Does Vista include this utility? If not, couldn't it be easily copied from an XP machine to the Shift?
Why
the shift will inclue voice dialling out of the box so not much point to your suggestion but thanks all the same
according to some reviews there are NO Voice capabilities in Shift!!!
Some news reports are wrong.. and no one has seen a production device yet Htc only just got the FCC approval for voice on a device that is the exact same form factor of the shift and the people that are making the device have leaked out to people on these forums (a few weeks ago) that it does deffinatly have voice and gps which has now being confimed (the gps was confirmed about two days ago by a MS worker)
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Some news reports are wrong.. and no one has seen a production device yet Htc only just got the FCC approval for voice on a device that is the exact same form factor of the shift and the people that are making the device have leaked out to people on these forums (a few weeks ago) that it does deffinatly have voice and gps which has now being confimed (the gps was confirmed about two days ago by a MS worker)
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thank you. yes voice and gps.
Hmmm. So when the official European HTC website, Shift section lists both the full Users Guide and Quick Start Guide && When neither mention the GPS or voice capabilitiels.
WELL
If they are included then HTC should re-write it's manuals.
i agree
and im sure they will update it now they have the full licence from the FCC to distribute the dev ice with voice capability
A little review to look at!
http://www.doctorsgadgets.com/htc-shift-review.html
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http://www.doctorsgadgets.com/htc-shift-review.html
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Ha. Doesn't he say "No voice, get it out of your head!" ?
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Ha. Doesn't he say "No voice, get it out of your head!" ?
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Oh yes he does but... look at the date the video review was done its about six months old it almost predates mmobile fones (lol) and the review is based on a very very early rom since this time gps has being confirmed which is not mentioned as it wasnt known back then and ohhh look htc have put the release dte back to january so who knows what there gunna change??????
yes it has gps 100%,but under vista with what software?
there is not clear until now.
for now use tomtom google maps or whtever in WM6 and once decent gps software is avaiable for vista get that instead!!
FCC approval is only for US market.
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Some news reports are wrong.. and no one has seen a production device yet Htc only just got the FCC approval for voice on a device that is the exact same form factor of the shift and the people that are making the device have leaked out to people on these forums (a few weeks ago) that it does deffinatly have voice and gps which has now being confimed (the gps was confirmed about two days ago by a MS worker)
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Yes but if ur going too release something this good to the world is it not better to have approval in what will be one of the biggest buyers for the product.. it makes sense to me and 100% of computer devices i have have the fcc approval but i live in uk.
The user manual is available to download from HTC now and there's NO mention of voice capabilities whatsoever!
Sucks ass big time - this was my only hope of having a decent PC and phone - looks like the flybook is a better (but much more expensive) option as the new ones have faster HSDPA and voice!
If you read on Mobileplanet, they spec gps for the US Version but not for the european version. Is this true there fore we should wait for the US one?
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The user manual is available to download from HTC now and there's NO mention of voice capabilities whatsoever!
Sucks ass big time - this was my only hope of having a decent PC and phone - looks like the flybook is a better (but much more expensive) option as the new ones have faster HSDPA and voice!
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would u idiots for lack of a more meaningful word stop looking at the user manuals and what is online and look at a better source who says the shift has phone capabilities. i replicated snapvue on my athena. one of the options when u go to settings is phone where u choose ur profile, ring type, bands, etc.. like in settings/phone of say the athena. IT HAS A PHONE IN IT!! bangelboy even showed the dialer on his.
He's right, check out this video.
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He's right, check out this video.
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i know im right. i said this from the beginning before bangelboy showed this. my sources are good!
Maybe
Pawel062 said:
i know im right. i said this from the beginning before bangelboy showed this. my sources are good!
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Even bangelboy, if you check his website, was not sure that cell phone services would be part of the final production model, although he was hopeful that it would be. Yet, all HTC indications in all their documentation is that cell phone services are not included.
Yes, the hardware is there, but there are some problems, perhaps legal patent rights, that are stalling what we want the HTC Shift to perform. It might still be a case for XDA developers to work out.
I would be happy to have the assurance of your sources, as the evidence at this point seems not to be favorable. It is good for you that you have faith in your sources, but without ascertaining their veracity, out of the box, it is hard to believe the Shift is configured for cell phone service. Would you care to share your sources with us?
Is there a VOIP application with Video support available for Windows Mobile?
The new Skype still doesn't support this.
Yes there is, tivi uses standard SIP and VOIP protocols, you can for example call someone on other sip accounts with tivi. Also take a look at the following post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458257
Looks like there's nothing stable out for it yet if I read the post under the link.
Wierd, I'd think that this is the future of communicating.
All these Phones with camera's and wifi and no video chat app?
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Looks like there's nothing stable out for it yet if I read the post under the link.
Wierd, I'd think that this is the future of communicating.
All these Phones with camera's and wifi and no video chat app?
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Don´t forget that most providers don´t want this and most sold cellphones ar bought with a contract of one of these providers. Furthermore, some providers in europe don´t allow VoIP via 3d/HSDPA. So there is simply nearly no market except for some nerds like us
As your providers hotline would answer: "Simply use the build in video-call"
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Don´t forget that most providers don´t want this and most sold cellphones ar bought with a contract of one of these providers. Furthermore, some providers in europe don´t allow VoIP via 3d/HSDPA. So there is simply nearly no market except for some nerds like us
As your providers hotline would answer: "Simply use the build in video-call"
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Well, regardless of what providers may or may not want, this question is still about the software.
Nobody can forbid me to use Wifi (hotspots) to use this functionality.
And I'm definitly looking towards the future. I believe video communication is going to be a standard.
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..I believe video communication is going to be a standard.
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So were we told around year 2000 as UMTS/3G came on the table. Today it works but nearly no one uses it. I don´t think it will change with VoIP in the mobile sector. People don´t want it.
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OK we do like it. But even we don´t need it really. It´s just for fun. The other thing is Vid-oIP from Netbooks to hold connection to People (loved ones) who are maybe overseas.
For example, Apple irgnored these function completely when construction iPhone 2 (3g). So their analysts came to the result that the marked is not interested.
Deadbeef, yes I am also looking for this kind of application, sitting in a cafe and video-chat with other pc-skype people...
Hi guys!
Ive been hearing and reading stuff about spotify for mobile phones being developed.
Some sources say they only plan to launch apps for android, iphone and symbian's. Whle others include WinMo.
Would this be a possible software that can be created? If i could get this on my TP2 it would be incredible.
Any of guys have any info other than this?
www.spotify.com
AFAIK, they were advertising for a WM developer to work for them, but since about a month ago it disappeared and I've heard nothing since.
I would love this app, but I suspect that the best you can expect is either a "wi-fi only" version (like iplayer is, ie. not available over 3G/HSDPA) or a version that it is only available to premium members (such as what is rumoured to be being given the once over by Apple, £9.99 a month, so to not compete too much with iTunes on their devices)
Yeah
That wont matter though, im allready a premium member. The whole idea is genius and 9.99 is nothing anyways.
But id still like them on my phone. could just bring my TP2 when im atfriends and plug it into the amplifier.
nobody up for the challange?
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nobody up for the challange?
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not sure if i'm up to it but i'm going to give it a try to see if it will work...
i will try to create a .Net app for windows mobile that uses despotify/jotify as an example.
now i only need some spare time
any .Net developers out here who would like to help me?
http://despotify.se/ http://jotify.felixbruns.de/
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I would love this app, but I suspect that the best you can expect is either a "wi-fi only" version (like iplayer is, ie. not available over 3G/HSDPA)
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hope you are wrong on that one, especially as some of us in the uk get 7.2mbps hsdpa & soon to be 14.4mbps. Hell 7.2mbps is faster than most bt broadband customers get.
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not sure if i'm up to it but i'm going to give it a try to see if it will work...
i will try to create a .Net app for windows mobile that uses despotify/jotify as an example.
now i only need some spare time
any .Net developers out here who would like to help me?
http://despotify.se/ http://jotify.felixbruns.de/
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I'd be happy to help if you're still working on this.
I have been working on a Windows Mobile Spotify client called mySpot.
The first alpha version is complete and I have uploaded it to the forum today.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580208
-Fry
When the idea that your smartphone’s data connection would be able to be shared by your laptop with no additional charge, everyone seemed to be on board – over the past year, carriers have started up extra costs for this and have struck down all attempts by apps to sidestep the process – until now. What one of the most well-known hacker/developers in the world Koushik Dutta, aka Koush, has done is to create a non-market app that allows you to use your smartphone as an internet hotspot, doing so without adding costs to you beyond what that data would cost to you on your smartphone on its own. And it’s completely (nearly) undetectable by carriers.
http://www.slashgear.com/android-hacker-koush-makes-mobile-internet-tethering-undetectable-by-carriers-02205425/
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Wish I had more than 500mb mobile data ha
Thanks AtriXDA Developers!!!
BlueangelAnd it’s completely (nearly) undetectable by carriers.
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Completely?...............Nearly?...............Can't be both!
(I know you quoted the article there, so not pointing out anything you have said)
From Koush's post:
"[1] It functions as a proxy, and not as a NAT/masquerade solution that other tether solutions use. Though carriers can still check for http user agent string, but I have an idea to work around that. They typically check the TTL for desktop values. All usual carrier data charges and quotas will apply, but you will not need a separate tethering plan."
Also, it's USB and not wireless which most people want. Seems more of the same to me. There are a large number of apps on the market doing the same thing already. Not a huge leap forward, but more a very small step in my opinion.
^ You pretty much stole all my thunder that I was about to write.
Until I know "exactly" what causes carriers to raise tethering flags, I would proceed very cautiously with this...
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Are you guys stupid. This has been done but no one has released a free easy to use undetectable tethering. All you guys want to do is complain. Just once come in here and say good job! Or well done!. All you XDA users do is complain when people are trying to help others. I love how this place works. $hit on the hand that feeds you.
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Are you guys stupid. This has been done but no one has released a free easy to use undetectable tethering. All you guys want to do is complain. Just once come in here and say good job! Or well done!. All you XDA users do is complain when people are trying to help others. I love how this place works. $hit on the hand that feeds you.
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Seems you are the one complaining here!
Oh, and I personally have thanked many, many people in XDA for their contributions, and sent beer money too. Thankfully, you have not been one of those people!
I was reading about this app yesterday.. Just the fact that its wired makes it undesirable to me.
The one most important thing about this app has been overlooked in this thread!! ROOT IS NOT REQUIRED!
So If you dont have root then check out this app! If you do have root, then WiFi Tether is obviously a better choice because it does not require a cable. Also I have been using WiFi Tether for over a year and never been "detected" by Att, so it must also be a "undetectable" app right?.
So it looks as wifi calling should go out to tmobiles nexus 6 by the end of the first quarter.. and volte for the nexus 6 and tmobile is nearly done with testing http://www.tmonews.com/2015/02/wi-fi-calling-coming-to-nexus-6-by-the-end-of-q1/
It's great news for those who do use it. Personally I don't so yeah... I got one of those routers from T-Mo that is supposed to be used for Wi-Fi calling and have never used it for that. Otherwise it was a free $150-$200 router that works awesome!
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So it looks as wifi calling should go out to tmobiles nexus 6 by the end of the first quarter.. and volte for the nexus 6 and tmobile is nearly done with testing http://www.tmonews.com/2015/02/wi-fi-calling-coming-to-nexus-6-by-the-end-of-q1/
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Awesome I've been wondering when it will be enable. Looking forward to both VoLTE and Wifi-Calling!!!
Any ideas how it will work? Will it be an app compatible with any custom rom or will it be something rom builders will need to go integrate?
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Any ideas how it will work? Will it be an app compatible with any custom rom or will it be something rom builders will need to go integrate?
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i have nooooo idea..
I am going to guess application like google hangouts dialer.
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It's great news for those who do use it. Personally I don't so yeah... I got one of those routers from T-Mo that is supposed to be used for Wi-Fi calling and have never used it for that. Otherwise it was a free $150-$200 router that works awesome!
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Same here.... Amazing router
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It's great news for those who do use it. Personally I don't so yeah... I got one of those routers from T-Mo that is supposed to be used for Wi-Fi calling and have never used it for that. Otherwise it was a free $150-$200 router that works awesome!
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Same here.... Amazing router
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But you have to return the router after you terminate services or they will bill you for 100 dollars.
Something to keep in mind, and it will still be 100 dollars a year from now. Or two. Or three.. in three the router is definitely going to be less than 100 dollars market value.
It's still a free 5ghz AC router...I think I can remember to return a router
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It's still a free 5ghz AC router...I think I can remember to return a router
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I agree and I have had tmo for almost 7 years I think I might be around for a while
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It's still a free 5ghz AC router...I think I can remember to return a router
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Its a POS that won't run openwrt.
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Its a POS that won't run openwrt.
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I had a dual band router with openwrt, and when the 2.4GHz hardware died (which happened far earlier than it should have, probably due to WRT overdriving the radio), and replaced it with a Netgear N900, expecting to get a wired router with WRT and run it as a WAP. Turns out there was not a single feature I used in WRT that was missing in the stock firmware, and the thing was rock solid as far as stability goes. I replaced the Netgear with the ASUS one from T-Mo (actually turned it into a WAP for better basement coverage) and it has even MORE features out of the box, like more powerful QOS support. Openwrt/DD-WRT/Tomato are nice, but they are far more than the vast majority of people need - even power users like me. I'm not using my CCNA skills to do stuff like routing multiple subnets here at home, and if I did, I would grab a used Cisco 861 and run the ASUS as a WAP behind it rather than messing with WRT.
Need that volte, hate dropping down to 3g when making voice calls then waiting for lte to kick in.
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I had a dual band router with openwrt, and when the 2.4GHz hardware died (which happened far earlier than it should have, probably due to WRT overdriving the radio), and replaced it with a Netgear N900, expecting to get a wired router with WRT and run it as a WAP. Turns out there was not a single feature I used in WRT that was missing in the stock firmware, and the thing was rock solid as far as stability goes. I replaced the Netgear with the ASUS one from T-Mo (actually turned it into a WAP for better basement coverage) and it has even MORE features out of the box, like more powerful QOS support. Openwrt/DD-WRT/Tomato are nice, but they are far more than the vast majority of people need - even power users like me. I'm not using my CCNA skills to do stuff like routing multiple subnets here at home, and if I did, I would grab a used Cisco 861 and run the ASUS as a WAP behind it rather than messing with WRT.
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Because obviously every hack on the internet is CCNA.
Right kid.
You obviously wrote this all up to try to defend yourself, but not working.
Instead, you have a spyware infested piece of unstable junk.
Have fun with it.
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Because obviously every hack on the internet is CCNA.
Right kid.
You obviously wrote this all up to try to defend yourself, but not working.
Instead, you have a spyware infested piece of unstable junk.
Have fun with it.
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Dude, why so hostile? Did tmo and/or asus personally offend you at some point in your life?
I've been using the tmo/asus router for a month now and it works great. Not everybody needs high level, supertech setups. Some people just want a wifi signal that works well...
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Well for the rest of us that have a life beyond hacking a router, for no reason, it works just fine. Plug it in and connect. Its free 5 gigggaahertz
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Well for the rest of us that have a life beyond hacking a router, for no reason, it works just fine. Plug it in and connect. Its free 5 gigggaahertz
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Plug it in and they get to snoop on all your communications.
Also, its quite clear that your opinion of openwrt has been severely tainted by... probably a complete moron. Plug it in, and it works better than fine.
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Because obviously every hack on the internet is CCNA.
Right kid.
You obviously wrote this all up to try to defend yourself, but not working.
Instead, you have a spyware infested piece of unstable junk.
Have fun with it.
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I have been an enterprise SysAdmin for 15 years. I have been working with network equipment (the enterprise Cisco stuff, not your wannabe WRT crap) for over 10. I am neither a kid, nor a hack, thanks.
What's your network background that gives your opinion on WRT so valid, and what features make it so special? Because like I said, I have used it and there was nothing in it that made me miss it when I stopped.
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I have been an enterprise SysAdmin for 15 years. I have been working with network equipment (the enterprise Cisco stuff, not your wannabe WRT crap) for over 10. I am neither a kid, nor a hack, thanks.
What's your network background that gives your opinion on WRT so valid, and what features make it so special? Because like I said, I have used it and there was nothing in it that made me miss it when I stopped.
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I second you on the wrt stuff. Yes while it is nice it is not necessary for home use at all. Especially since the Asus-68u / TMO-1900 AC (same router/WAP etc.) has it built in for the most part and actually works better than WRT crap-ware as I determine it. I to would get a used Cisco or aerohive or enterprise level hardware over any home-based consumer router for security and other things that just are not available. But that is not this subject I have the TMO-1900AC and Asus-68u at home I use the TMO as WAP and Asus as primary this works very well for wifi calling etc. I believe wifi calling will be built in to the phone on update not a wannabe app like sprint.
T-Mobile is reporting that WiFi calling won't be in the 5.1 update... This is getting old.