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I know there are many versions out there. I have the QTEK 9100, and I can safely say that it's quality is below average, in terms of hardware.
Problems with the housing/paint, problems with the stylus, problems with the microphone and speaker quality.
I would like to know what other people think, and if other Wizards are better in terms of qulity.
regards
got an mda, unlocked.......loving it... :!:
housing etc is fine...speaker etc is very clear...
I have an O2 XDA Mini S and a T-Mobile Vario.
So far have been pleased with the quality of build and sound.
I have the Vodafone Compact II and can safely say that alll aspects of the device are excellent - hardware and software!
I love built quality, but the bloody call quality is awful. Really tinny sound.
MDA Vario - great
I would have to say the worst part of most Wizard devices is the Stylus silo that becomes very loose over time. Mine has become so loose that extracting the stylus no longer extends it to full size (at least it does stay in the silo). I basically only use the Wizard stylus only in a pinch. I mostly use the d-pad or carry a small stylus with me.
I taped the stylus so that it keeps from falling off. Also the paint starts to come off. It seems strange though, that there seems to be 2 kinds of QTEK quality phones.
The ones that are in Greece, all have the sound, stylus, bodywork quality issue.
8125 is solid. i like it a lot. no problems with the stylus.
although my first one arrived with a dead pixel, and the second arrived with right side of the keyboard a little loose when i slid it out, third one is a rock, i love it.
What sucks though......Cingular doesnt offer INSURANCE for this phone.
Any ideas on that?/
danrw84 said:
8125 is solid. i like it a lot. no problems with the stylus.
although my first one arrived with a dead pixel, and the second arrived with right side of the keyboard a little loose when i slid it out, third one is a rock, i love it.
What sucks though......Cingular doesnt offer INSURANCE for this phone.
Any ideas on that?/
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Insurance? You do not mean warranty do you?
If you mean insurance, is an unknown issue in Greece
I got insurance on mine. It's not possible to rebuy the O2 XDA if you lose it/break it etc because it's so expensive, so £5 a month seemed like a good piece of mind.
On that topic, anyone recommend any decent screen protectors?
3M is one of the most decent I guess, browse ebay, you'll see lots Got my 3M its 3 months old now, excellent
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I know there are many versions out there. I have the QTEK 9100, and I can safely say that it's quality is below average, in terms of hardware.
Problems with the housing/paint, problems with the stylus, problems with the microphone and speaker quality.
I would like to know what other people think, and if other Wizards are better in terms of qulity.
regards
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I dropped my MDA Vario twice on a stone floor while using the device. Just some scratches. I thinks it's build quality is just fine. The paint comes off quite easily, I agree. But so did the paint on my good ol' Sony T610 and Palm Tungsten|T. THe speaker sounds a little flat, but hey, what do you expect from a simple piezo speaker in a small housing?
The stylus though is a real pain in the butt... I managed to demolish two of them, and have already ordered an new pack o' three styli, for a miserable 23 euro's...
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gepol said:
I know there are many versions out there. I have the QTEK 9100, and I can safely say that it's quality is below average, in terms of hardware.
Problems with the housing/paint, problems with the stylus, problems with the microphone and speaker quality.
I would like to know what other people think, and if other Wizards are better in terms of qulity.
regards
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I dropped my MDA Vario twice on a stone floor while using the device. Just some scratches. I thinks it's build quality is just fine. The paint comes off quite easily, I agree. But so did the paint on my good ol' Sony T610 and Palm Tungsten|T. THe speaker sounds a little flat, but hey, what do you expect from a simple piezo speaker in a small housing?
The stylus though is a real pain in the butt... I managed to demolish two of them, and have already ordered an new pack o' three styli, for a miserable 23 euro's...
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The stylus is a warranty issue, don't you think?
I know there are many versions out there. I have the QTEK 9100, and I can safely say that it's quality is below average, in terms of hardware.
Problems with the housing/paint, problems with the stylus, problems with the microphone and speaker quality.
I would like to know what other people think, and if other Wizards are better in terms of qulity.
regards
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I have a Qtek 9100 and I've got to say the build quality is really, surprisingly high. Much better than my previous O2 XDA2s (Blue Angel) which suffered from failing hardware buttons, paint chips and countless other problems.
Being a student I'm not the most careful user. My Wizard spends it's life getting bashed around in my jeans pocket (usually when I walk into things at work). I also drop it...I mean a lot. Really, if there was a society for the prevention of cruelty to these things I'd be serving a prison sentence right now. Despite this it doesn't have a single fault, even the stylus is still tight!
I realise quite a few people have had problems with Wizards from all of the manufactures which leads me to believe it's the same problem that all these devices seem to suffer from. The problem isn't so much bad build quality, it's just inconsistent build quality. When your paying that much for a device, it really isn't good enough to be taking a gamble like that.
Lewis
Well, what can I say, I am driven to believe that there must different production lines.
Mine is cared extremely, not a single drop. I am not a frequent user of the stylus, and yet.....it's already loose and won't stay inside without tape.
Who knows.... :roll:
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The stylus is a warranty issue, don't you think?
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I'm the one who dropped the Vario whilst trying to put the stylus into the holder. Half-way down the device slipped out of my hand, concequently beheading the stylus on slamming into the brick floor...
I don't think that's a warranty issue, but a clear case of stupidity
The Vario survived with a mere scratch, though 8)
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gepol said:
The stylus is a warranty issue, don't you think?
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I'm the one who dropped the Vario whilst trying to put the stylus into the holder. Half-way down the device slipped out of my hand, concequently beheading the stylus on slamming into the brick floor...
I don't think that's a warranty issue, but a clear case of stupidity
The Vario survived with a mere scratch, though 8)
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I mean the broken clip inside the phone, not if you through it on the wall
My device doesn't suffer from an broken clip inside.
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My device doesn't suffer from an broken clip inside.
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I understand that, I am asking the ones that it is broken
hi, guys, Im looking to buy a HTC Advantage but not sure if i should.
Right now i own a Hermes, the only thing bothering me is that if i will be able to use it on trains and stuff, (send emails/sms) since it doesn't have a thumb board like the hermes (the only reason i want the Advantage is bigger screen and CPU 624Mhz), im just wondering if on screen input with your fingers is possible without third party software ?
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hi, guys, Im looking to buy a HTC Advantage but not sure if i should.
Right now i own a Hermes, the only thing bothering me is that if i will be able to use it on trains and stuff, (send emails/sms) since it doesn't have a thumb board like the hermes (the only reason i want the Advantage is bigger screen and CPU 624Mhz), im just wondering if on screen input with your fingers is possible without third party software ?
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don't really understand why you ask this. Advantage has a keyboard, which makes it easy to type compare to Hermes. You shouldn't worry about the typing, although it's lacking a number row, the typing is still better then Hermes.
From spect (I don't have it yet) athena far better than hermes
so do you mean can i use the hardware keyboard on trains and in places where a flat surfaceis not available like in my hand? or if not is the software keyboard on the screen good ? can I type on it with my thumbs ?
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so do you mean can i use the hardware keyboard on trains and in places where a flat surfaceis not available like in my hand? or if not is the software keyboard on the screen good ? can I type on it with my thumbs ?
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The on-screen keyboard is big enough for your thumb Remember the athena has 5 inch screen, so everything on it is big It covers almost the lower half of the screen.
can one of you guys please post a screen shot ? it would make it a lot easier for me to decide if i actually saw the on screen keyboard
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can one of you guys please post a screen shot ? it would make it a lot easier for me to decide if i actually saw the on screen keyboard
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with some time and practice, you can type the hard keyboard without a flat surface easily.
wow cool sounds gooood !
Whats your ring size?
lemonkamamo said:
hi, guys, Im looking to buy a HTC Advantage but not sure if i should.
Right now i own a Hermes, the only thing bothering me is that if i will be able to use it on trains and stuff, (send emails/sms) since it doesn't have a thumb board like the hermes (the only reason i want the Advantage is bigger screen and CPU 624Mhz), im just wondering if on screen input with your fingers is possible without third party software ?
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Hi LK
Just checked your question on my Athena, I can tell you the screen keyboard is just 3" (75mm) wide and to do it on the tube with my fingers-impossible without multiple errors. BUT maybe your ring size is like a childs, then maybe you'd succeed. The good news is I tried thumb operate with hardware keyboard and--well lets say I give it the thumbs-up! s'cuse the pun. The magnetic hold is really strong so it aint gonna drop off, you can hold it upside down and shake it, still holds on. Caution don't put it on sensitive magnetic media or it could corrupt data, eg cassette tapes (remember them) hard discs, caddy, laptop etc.
But for a phone/pda your Hermes is a gr8 bit of kit, so compact and useable. I rate the athena as a pda then a phone if you get my drift. Hope you get one and enjoy, also save ur eye strain!
Cheers
Oh an after thought-dont wear steel rings with this one, ya could get locked onto it!
Isn't the keyboard detatchable and attached only by a magnet? How good is it to type while on your hands? Doesn't it increase the risk of a major floor wipe out?
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Isn't the keyboard detatchable and attached only by a magnet? How good is it to type while on your hands? Doesn't it increase the risk of a major floor wipe out?
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Only question is what would be after one year of use? Would magnet wear off?
Magnetic keyboard-magnetic device
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Isn't the keyboard detatchable and attached only by a magnet? How good is it to type while on your hands? Doesn't it increase the risk of a major floor wipe out?
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Yes quite practical to type on hard kb with fingers when Athena in hand. The Keyboard is attached by the magnets only. its amazing but however u try to mis-align it, the thing zaps into the right place! only the mag holds it on, nowt else. If the mag wears out after a year I'll also trade in the alternator off my car but have to wait and see
Cheers
Oh yea,
A SOBERING THOUGHT : If the earths magnetism wears out we'll all hurtle into outer space -- yikes!!
Hi,
any1 knows how to find (eBay preferably) an Hermes 100 full housing replacement?
I've got a Vodafone V1605 and so an Hermes 200 housing but i prefer Hermes 100 one.
You can easily find the not real display units for the 8525 on ebay. The only difference between those and a real one is the lack of hardware and the missing front camera hole
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You can easily find the not real display units for the 8525 on ebay. The only difference between those and a real one is the lack of hardware and the missing front camera hole
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Sorry but i didn't understand what you said. I had to buy a mock-up of a 8525?
And for the camera hole?
This is what you need; http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OEM-Housing-f...oryZ3728QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
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This is what you need; http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OEM-Housing-f...oryZ3728QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
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Thanks man! That's what i need!
I've found somethinf similar (but dopod branded) @ http://cnn.cn/shop/htc-8525-c-277_322.html
But including shipping I think that your's cheaper.
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You can easily find the not real display units for the 8525 on ebay. The only difference between those and a real one is the lack of hardware and the missing front camera hole
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I bought one of these "display" units and they are NOT the same. They are much flimsier, the back door is fused on which means you can't take it apart without breaking it, the keyboard sliding mechanism is looser and not designed for repeated use, all of the buttons are fused to the outer case and are not real buttons, etc.
Do NOT buy the 8525 dummy case as a case replacement, I guarantee you won't be happy with the result.
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I bought one of these "display" units and they are NOT the same. They are much flimsier, the back door is fused on which means you can't take it apart without breaking it, the keyboard sliding mechanism is looser and not designed for repeated use, all of the buttons are fused to the outer case and are not real buttons, etc.
Do NOT buy the 8525 dummy case as a case replacement, I guarantee you won't be happy with the result.
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Thanks dude
Has anybody bought either of these? I'd be interested to know what the quality is like (I've bought a replacement for my wife's nokia N73 and it was very poor compared to the original...) Are they as good as the originals?
Also, I have a vario II which has a different button layout on the front - would the dopod example on cnn.cn still work with mine (I much prefer the button layout on that one to the vario one...)
Thoughts please everyone
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Lordsmiff said:
Has anybody bought either of these? I'd be interested to know what the quality is like (I've bought a replacement for my wife's nokia N73 and it was very poor compared to the original...) Are they as good as the originals?
Also, I have a vario II which has a different button layout on the front - would the dopod example on cnn.cn still work with mine (I much prefer the button layout on that one to the vario one...)
Thoughts please everyone
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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The different key layout is only in the outside but inside the PCB is the same.
I'm looking for Hermes 100 housing only for esthetical reason.
I'm thinking of deconverging myself to two devices. I currently use my htc herald as my daily driver. I need to read a lot thesedays, so, small screen is not going nice for me. I'll be using athena as a standalone, non-connected device. I also have nuts on the newly released ipaq 210. Since, athena has 8GB HDD, it would be great to store my PDFs and movies.
The only thing that bugs me about athena is its magnet thing. I've head that it can destroy/format HDDs of laptops; discharge the parking cards(magnetic ones) etc. Is there anyway to stop this?
Also, putting it in its factory case removes the magnetic effect?
no the factory case is not also magnetised, without the phone being in it
the keyboard is the only magnetic part...
if dont use the keyboard you have nothing to worry about
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the keyboard is the only magnetic part...
if dont use the keyboard you have nothing to worry about
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So, the main unit does not have magnets..right?
No,that's not correct.The main unit does have magnet. It's even labelled on the bottom of the unit itself.
However, I've never found it to be an issue.
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No,that's not correct.The main unit does have magnet. It's even labelled on the bottom of the unit itself.
However, I've never found it to be an issue.
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so the reports making the parking lot cards and formatting the HDDs are fake? hmm.. athena here i come
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so the reports making the parking lot cards and formatting the HDDs are fake? hmm.. athena here i come
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I won't discount those report. I carry it without keyboard with a belt pouch. Therefore it never had a chance to come into contact with credit cards and parking tickets.
I've heard that the keyboard's magnet is much stronger than the magnet in the device. FWIW.
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I've heard that the keyboard's magnet is much stronger than the magnet in the device. FWIW.
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Just tested it, and I can confirm that the keyboard magnet is very much stronger than the device's.
I will test a parking ticket with just the magnet device and try to deliberately wipe out its data later and report the result later.
I too am a little concerned about the magnet but don't see myself carrying around that keyboard since it makes it bigger. Also the screen on the Advantage is so big using a on screen keyboard like PCM should be fine. No?
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I too am a little concerned about the magnet but don't see myself carrying around that keyboard since it makes it bigger. Also the screen on the Advantage is so big using a on screen keyboard like PCM should be fine. No?
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Using on-screen keyboard works better for me. As long you choose the on screen keyboard wisely, you should have enough real estate left to still see what you're doing. I stay away from the full screen keyboard of course. Very large ones like Finger Touch, the iphone skin of Resco, Tengo Thumbs Touch Pal, are all too big. I use Resco default skin and Tengo Nano.
Without the keyboard, tt's easire to slot this GPS into my device holder in the car without case and keyboard.
I did test it on a parking card and yes, the parking card now does not work. So, I took my associates employee badge (with magnetic strip), Put the keyboard on it for about a half hour...Now he needs another badge...So the keyboard must have a strong magnet. Although, I carry my athena on my side in a carrying case right next to my wallet and have never had any problems with my credit cards, etc...So ican it needs direct contact for a while, not the occasional wave over, etc....
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I did test it on a parking card and yes, the parking card now does not work. So, I took my associates employee badge (with magnetic strip), Put the keyboard on it for about a half hour...Now he needs another badge...So the keyboard must have a strong magnet. Although, I carry my athena on my side in a carrying case right next to my wallet and have never had any problems with my credit cards, etc...So ican it needs direct contact for a while, not the occasional wave over, etc....
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Holy ****! Can you do a test on the magnets on the device?
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I did test it on a parking card and yes, the parking card now does not work. So, I took my associates employee badge (with magnetic strip), Put the keyboard on it for about a half hour...Now he needs another badge...So the keyboard must have a strong magnet. Although, I carry my athena on my side in a carrying case right next to my wallet and have never had any problems with my credit cards, etc...So ican it needs direct contact for a while, not the occasional wave over, etc....
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OMG, what in the hell were the engineers at HTC thinking while designing athena?
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OMG, what in the hell were the engineers at HTC thinking while designing athena?
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I know. The lack of an earpiece and the implementation of those magnets keeps this from being the "perfect" device IMHO.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/magnet4.htm
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,116572-page,1/article.html
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OMG, what in the hell were the engineers at HTC thinking while designing athena?
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I really don't think there is anything wrong with the Athena Magnets. I have had mine for many months, and have never accidently had any issues due to the magnets. Yes, I have used them intentionally to try and mess up parking cards, employee badges, etc. but overall, seems to work well to attach the keyboard. ANd a lot of pouches and cases have used magnets for years.
Destroying card info. yes but not strong enough to wipe out the hard drive. Just in case you are wondering there is huge magnet motor reside in your hard drive.
Rudegar said:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/magnet4.htm
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,116572-page,1/article.html
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May be some of the parking cards are more fragile to magnets then
But now atleast I'm less worried about the magnets
PS: the earpiece thing aint going to bother me. I'll be buying myself a SE K850i for tele communications
Just get an audio addaptor to go from the mini USB to 3,5MM socket if you want headphones wired to the device - works a treat - Mike
With the Touch Pro/Fuze, there were a few people I bumped into that had the device in hand before the release (job perks). Does anyone lurking this forum have the device in hand, or know someone that does?
I played with it in Gitex Dubai - UAE. Looks nice but i hate to judge a device while it is being connected to a power cable and a security cable.
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I played with it in Gitex Dubai - UAE. Looks nice but i hate to judge a device while it is being connected to a power cable and a security cable.
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can understand that. lst time i went into a shop to try out a touch diamond just to see the interface, it didn't even work because those idiots at the shop connected the security cable on top of the screen, destroying it ^^
But beside of this, can you tell us about your experience? how big does it feel? whats with the screen size? how does the interface handle on this version . tell us every bit!!
Sure,
Size: seemed big in hand, but again, i beleieve this sense is due to the 'Cables' below and Behind :|
Screen size and quality: simply Amazing.
Performance: seemed excellent, without any lag. better than diamond.
Look & Design: Better than what u see in utube or images
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Sure,
Size: seemed big in hand, but again, i beleieve this sense is due to the 'Cables' below and Behind :|
Screen size and quality: simply Amazing.
Performance: seemed excellent, without any lag. better than diamond.
Look & Design: Better than what u see in utube or images
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did you take a look at the virtual keyboard? if so, is it much better than on the diamond. (bigger keys, more space to read what your tiping and so on)
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Sure,
Size: seemed big in hand, but again, i beleieve this sense is due to the 'Cables' below and Behind :|
Screen size and quality: simply Amazing.
Performance: seemed excellent, without any lag. better than diamond.
Look & Design: Better than what u see in utube or images
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I can't wait any longer. I hope what you saying here we all wait to see for the coming moment of truth, please HTC release our TOUCH HD on the market as soon as possible
haha, i cant wait also for the release ....
as for the keyboard, it is yes, way better than hat on diamond. but i am using TOUCHPAL on diamond, so i can't tell exactly the difference from the built in which i never used.
Good thing, yes, the upper part of the screen is too big where u can see more while typing.
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I can't wait any longer. I hope what you saying here we all wait to see for the coming moment of truth, please HTC release our TOUCH HD on the market as soon as possible
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when i will get one, possible around the beginning ov next month, i will come back here to post a review for you all and maybe even a youtube clip
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when i will get one, possible around the beginning ov next month, i will come back here to post a review for you all and maybe even a youtube clip
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Great, please do!
The ones i pre-ordered from in Sweden said to me next week i will have it! Don´t know if the guy were talking bull****, but i will let you guys know the next week!
hazem77 said:
I played with it in Gitex Dubai - UAE. Looks nice but i hate to judge a device while it is being connected to a power cable and a security cable.
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Hi,
May I know the dark silver frame around the screed is made by metal or plastic with plating only?
I was at the phoneshop today...
Seems like they will have it on display inside 10 days.....
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Hi,
May I know the dark silver frame around the screed is made by metal or plastic with plating only?
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it seemed of very good quality to me, but i really can't tell....
I too am eager to get this device, and am psyked that no one in the US will carry it. Just makes me that much more unique than the typical iPhone carrying fool here.
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Performance: seemed excellent, without any lag. better than diamond.
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That is so good to hear I didn't think they'd really pull that one off by any significant margin...
th1nm1nt said:
With the Touch Pro/Fuze, there were a few people I bumped into that had the device in hand before the release (job perks). Does anyone lurking this forum have the device in hand, or know someone that does?
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I have mine....as you say (job perks)
Cheers
LB
Lord Buckingham said:
I have mine....as you say (job perks)
Cheers
LB
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Is there any GPS lag like the Diamond and TOuch Pro are experiencing?
Lord Buckingham said:
I have mine....as you say (job perks)
Cheers
LB
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The frame is metal of plastic. thanks...sorry for asking this question several times. but the black D810 is really horrible
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The frame is metal of plastic. thanks...sorry for asking this question several times. but the black D810 is really horrible
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Front frame is metal, rear case plastic.
Cheeers
LB
Good. I liked the sturdy feel of the Diamond which was largely because of the robust feel that the metal border gives.
Good thing the HD has this too.
Does it feel solid in general? I like a phone that feels heavy and solid. I know the weight spec but it all comes down to the total feel.