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Hello!
I would greatly appreciate it if you could suggest any good multi - IM software for the universal (Yahoo, MSN, ICQ mainly)
agile messenger was good, but it has a lot of stability issues on the universal. So could you suggest something other than agile?
Thanks,
San
Hmm I'd be interested also in what people are using, at the moment I only have PocketMSN installed.
MSN via IRC
Hi all,
Well I own an MDA Pro (HTC Universal) so it doesn't come with MSN Messenger installed. I am waiting for the new Rom though which does include it. In the meantime I'm using an IRC client in combination with Bitlbee to get on the MSN network. It works like a charm. If you don't know what Bitlbee is you can go here (www.bitlbee.org) to read all about it and to try it out. Basically it's just a IRC Bot/Script that you can run on your computer and it forms a gateway to different IM networks like MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, AIM etc... You can also use the public servers if you don't want to install it on your own pc. Ow and it's free also.
Agile Messenger for Windows Mobile is still free as far as I know, and supports MSN, Yahoo!, AOL, Jabber and ICQ.
I'm using it almost daily. Works quite well, actually.
It has crashed on me at times, but only after extensive chatting.
Omnichaos: Does the MDA Pro not come with MSN? The i-mates do, and it's a free download from Microsoft's site too. The problem with using IRC scripts and bots is that not one bit of it is encrypted, so you're opening up your data to some script-kiddie with lots of time on his hands (granted, I haven't read about your solution, so I don't know the details)
Even I use Agile messenger..it works fine also in Full VGA Mode :lol:
What about any alternatives for just an MSN? I'm not using any other communicators so don't need the all-in-one ones.
I'm quite happy with Pocket MSN, it's just annoying me that the chat window is so small and hard to read and there is a huge unused space underneath.
rottie said:
What about any alternatives for just an MSN? I'm not using any other communicators so don't need the all-in-one ones.
I'm quite happy with Pocket MSN, it's just annoying me that the chat window is so small and hard to read and there is a huge unused space underneath.
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Click on your SIP to display it, and then hide it again to clear the huge unused space.
snorbaard said:
Agile Messenger for Windows Mobile is still free as far as I know, and supports MSN, Yahoo!, AOL, Jabber and ICQ.
It has crashed on me at times, but only after extensive chatting.
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Also my Agile crashes now and then my Jasjar. Indeed you need extensive chatting first. It has never crashed just in stand bye mode.
Agile however recovers very well after being out of reach of the network, which, in my case, cannot be said about MSN.
And the MSN new-user-on-line warning can officially not be switched off. Very irritating.
Anyone tried IM+?
Huib
hey, Thanks!!!
@ snorbaard
No the MDA Pro does not come with MSN Messenger at least not yet (It's included in the next Rom update). I don't know why they haven't included it in the first place cause I now that the Imate's, O2's & Qtek's do.
You are right about MSN being a free download but you have to active your MSN account first for you to be able to use Pocket MSN and that costs 15 euro's.
But as I said it doesn't matter for me that much cause I'm using IRC to get on the MSN network.
You're probably right about IRC not being encrypted but you can run it on your own computer which does increase security alot than if you were to use the public servers. Besides I don't really care that much. It's not like I'm giving away passwords or creditcard numbers on MSN anyway.
Agile Messenger - NEW WM 5.0 version
We will be releasing a new version of Agile Messenger for WM5.0 both PPC and Smartphone versions, that is a complete re-write from the ground up. The BETA will be available in the next week or so, and will be posted publicly on this forum for all of the members to download.
Your feedback is appreciated, and we are quite confident that you will be happy with the new Agile Messnger for WM5.0.
Thanks for your continued support.
BR
Seth
Agilemobile.com Ltd.
Sweet!!!
Can't wait to try it out.
New Agile? Great. Used it on my Nokia 9500. Very nice and stable.
eagerly waiting for a testdrive.
Huib
IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.
yo i tried agile on my mda pro, but it wouldnt work,
touchscreen doesnt work with it,and i could only select msn not logon to it
to bad, i just have to wait voor that t-mobile update i guess
P'z
Beta
The new version should support:
Push To Talk
Image Transfer
Emoticons
Group Management
Typing Notification
Support for AOL, MSN, ICQ, Yahoo, and Google Talk
Amongst a number of other new features, and an entirely new interface.
There have ben a number of internal builds over the past few months, and we expect to be releasing a Beta very shortly.
For those of you that are requesting early Beta's it is simply not possible as we intend to provide it to the entire community as soon as our internal devlopment team and quality controll is satisfied that it is ready for public release; which we expect to be in the next few weeks.
BR
Seth
Agilemobile.com Ltd.
universaldoc said:
IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.
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I also use IM+. I have since i first got my old Nokia 7650 many moons ago.
I use an XDA EXEC at the moment and the built in MSN Messenger is really bad it claims i am connected when i am not and my gprs monitor reported over 400k usage in around 3 hours without any use.
With IM+ i use around 23K when connecting then a very small amount each time i chat.
AFAIK IM+ also connects directly to the services. I know some other third party ones connect through their own servers.
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universaldoc said:
IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.
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I also use IM+. I have since i first got my old Nokia 7650 many moons ago.
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Dingo, that is good news. There is competition. I would love you to compare both Agile and IM+ as soon as the new, rewritten, Agile appears.
I use Agile at the moment. Apart from sometimes hanging my Jasjar, it does the job well. Especially REconnecting after being in the subway is very imporant for me. MSN just does not and Agile reconnects quickly.
MB consumtion of MSN is unacceptable. Very strange that MS delievered a product like that.
Huib
Hi guys
I have been using agile oin my T;mobile exec. It is very stable and i also find it recovers well on disconnects between cell sites. I regularly use it on express train journeys in the uk. But for these i tend to turn of UMTS and force gsm only. this really helps on speeding up agile reconnecting when the unoiversal is moving fast. The other big thing on agile is it costs less than 305 of the bw that MS MSN client uses. So on samll bundles it will save far more in bw costs than any licence feee will cost. If you are having problems on the t-mobile exec, then you are probably doing something wrong, or you have some other trird party sw installed that is messing thinbgs up. Personally i am really pleased that tmob did not install msn otherwise i would not have discovered agile. Can t wait till the new version comes out.
Keepup the good work at the Agile dev team.
Regards
Charlie
MSN Mobile is ... really bad IMHO.
Im also using IM+ as its the most stable for me. It also support jabber but it really miss some basic features.
Are they any other good jabber clients?
Agile was also not really working out for me, lets see how it behave on an new version.
If anybody know any other clients plz post them. Im also really ready to pay for them - 100EURO for a really ok client is no problem. Sources would be even better so i could fix the rest myself.
If somebody could provide sources, i would even sign an NDA or something and pay more.
Would love if somebody contact me
Daniel
Hey all,
We're currently evaluating WinMo devices to replace blackberries in our company... thus far the results have been a mixed bag to say the least.
I look after an exchange 2003 environment (SP2) so we're push-email ready, however there's one big thing holding us up - IM.
On the blackberries, we use something called Blackberry Messenger which is capable of both online and offline messages, and pretty infallible. It runs in the background and whenever a user is online handles the sign-on and message delivery, likewise if a user is offline the network queues the message until they're back online.
I can't find anything like this for windows mobile, can anyone suggest soemthing I'm missing? until I have this we're stuck with blackberry...
TIA
German T-Mobile is offering a BlackBerry Software Addon for the MDA Vario - I started a thread a while back right here in the forum.
Since I have no use for Blackberry, etc. I have not installed/used it. But maybe its what you are looking for.
The only way to do (online) IM now on WM5 devices is via PocketMSN I think.
Dont know any alternatives (especially that can handle offline IM).
I'm new here, but....
I know on the PC there is a program that handles offline messaging and it is available on the PocketPC now too. It's called ICQ. You can send a message offline and the person will receive it when they logon.
http://www.icq.com/download/ftp-pocketpc.html
Lemme know if that's what you're looking for.
you can use Agile Messenger.. Lets you use AIM/ICQ/Yahoo/MSN IM accounts. There's a thread someone in here that has the info on it.. just search the forums for Agile Messenger.
You might want to contact Jabber and work out somemthing with them, the idea's mentioned above are good but I know you need something internal (not somthing that has potential use for (ab)use/danger)
http://www.jabber.com/index.cgi?CONTENT_ID=690
Any day now, M$ is gonna release mobile office connect. If you use office connect already this will move the IM client out to WM5.
You can try Saki,
It has the features you mentioned as well as integrated email, RSS feeds, and others. I know a company that chose to use this software and wizards instead of Blackberries.
http://www.sakimobile.com
Let's not forget Microsoft's Live Communication Server (LCS) 2005 with the office communicator SIP client.
Raptor
Hey all. I'm thinking about writing an Instant Messaging Client for Windows Mobile.
My ideas include:
Ability to use any major instant messaging network: ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, GTalk, AIM, etc.
Touch Screen Friendly
You can be connected to all your networks from both your desktop and phone at the same time.
It can be used as a replacement for the standard "Contacts" application: all your non-instant messaging Contacts will be viewable on this client as well. You can do the standard stuff as well: call, email, text, as well as send an IM.
What I'm wondering, is if you guys would be interested in this, and if it's even worth my time. So please vote and let me know!
well i'm very intrested. any thoughts on vga video chat integration?
It'd be just great. I'd love to see it happen
im+ is good and has a 7 day trial
agile messenger is also good and i believe also has a trial
the best for me has been beejive its still beta but works great for me is free and has a great UI that makes it feel something like SMS on the iphone
beejive.com
these all work with multiple services
id be interested if it could compete with these especially if the UI could blend with the diamond or touchflo 3D
NYRican is right, it should match the Tf3D UI, would be a great Idea, & the greatest would be if the VIDEO CHAT works as well.
GoodLuck
Skype
WOW.Can you include Skype? as i found very few clients include it
great...
i think it will be very usefull when you realise something like imov
a full compatible xmpp jabber protocol messenger with transports feature for other messaging protocols like msn icq ...
as opensource project or freeware
Benefits:
- xmpp needs little traffic
- transports have the benefit that all status and standby comunication per protocol is reduced to one!
- programing is easyer because you must integrate only one protocol
- as opensource or freeware other developer can support you
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definitely a fantastic idea
1) nice gui interface (agile, im+ = brutal interfaces)
2) NON Memory HOG! (Beejive is great, but runs very slow)
3) NON Power Consuming! (Beejive eats battery likes its going out of style when running for long periods of time)
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Those are my comments based on other applications on the market.
if you can pull of designing a very nice interface, easy to use with the touchscreen for vga, that'd be awesome!
I'd love to use a killer mobile TF3D integrated contacts and unified communication client for the Microsoft Unified Communications products!
Right now, I sync with my Outlook contacts OTA on Exchange and have access to our company directory. That alone has proven invaluable already..
+1 very nice to such an App.
Maybe a little bit nokia 5800 like.
There You can also handle everything to do with Contact
( IM, SMS, Phone, Pics...) via the Contact app.
This would be a very very great App.
Respect for Idea.
greets doena
Thumbs up here
I think this is what is needed to complete this mobile
and IM that can do it all
Looking forward to it
You nubs know this thread is over 6 months old..
if only i had a diamond
think you can make a QVGA version?
drdingo21 said:
You nubs know this thread is over 6 months old..
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it was posted on october 3rd :S
how is it old?
drdingo21 said:
You nubs know this thread is over 6 months old..
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hahahahahahahahahahaha!
dude the date in this forum is Day-Month-Year
haha good try though
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hahahahahahahahahahaha!
dude the date in this forum is Day-Month-Year
haha good try though
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XD loool nice guy XD wahahaha
Mandragore said:
I'd love to use a killer mobile TF3D integrated contacts and unified communication client for the Microsoft Unified Communications products!
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there already is a client for MS unified communications (OCS) for windows mobile. but your company needs to have an edge OCS server running or else you won't be able to connect.
i would like to see this, but it's gotta be a LOT of work? if you plan on implementing all those protocols.. i know with miranda (a windows multi protocol IM) they have enough resourcing issues with one developer per protocol.. and you are suggesting that you develop all the protocols as well as the UI and everything else? impressive..
omniwolf said:
there already is a client for MS unified communications (OCS) for windows mobile. but your company needs to have an edge OCS server running or else you won't be able to connect.
i would like to see this, but it's gotta be a LOT of work? if you plan on implementing all those protocols.. i know with miranda (a windows multi protocol IM) they have enough resourcing issues with one developer per protocol.. and you are suggesting that you develop all the protocols as well as the UI and everything else? impressive..
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lol smashed our hopes
omniwolf said:
there already is a client for MS unified communications (OCS) for windows mobile. but your company needs to have an edge OCS server running or else you won't be able to connect.
i would like to see this, but it's gotta be a LOT of work? if you plan on implementing all those protocols.. i know with miranda (a windows multi protocol IM) they have enough resourcing issues with one developer per protocol.. and you are suggesting that you develop all the protocols as well as the UI and everything else? impressive..
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My plan is to host an Openfire XMPP server, and that provides gateways to all the other IM clients. There is also an open source XMPP client library called Jabber.NET. Really, all I would be doing is hosting a server and writing a rich XMPP client UI. And for a phone, funneling all the traffic through one protocol and proxy works out much better on performance and battery life.
So I would not be writing any code related to protocols, but I would have to maintain a server and pay for bandwidth costs. Ultimately that means I would not be able to do this entire project for "free" like everything else I do: I need a way to make enough revenue off of it to pay for the hosting service.
Also, regarding the MS Live Communications client. Not only do you need to run an Exchange and LCS server, you need to purchase an additional license for Public IM connectivity. That license is around $13-$16 per user per year. And on top of that, you must use the MS Live Communications client, which is not so touch friendly: what I really want out of this is a nice, usable, IM client.
I use IM heavily for work - corporate Jabber server, GTalk, AIM, Windows Live are all in play during my day.
One of the big problems I have with a tablet is that when I want to get up and leave my desktop and bring my chat with me, different services use different criteria for where to send new messages.
- Some send to the last client that sent a message out.
- Some send to the client with the highest priority ID (set in expert settings in most clients)
- Some send to the last client to log in.
In short, it's a mess, and I always wind up missing messages because of it. Logging out on the PC and in on the tablet manually is a bummer too when you want to just grab it and go.
I just downloaded the new Trillian release, which works on Honeycomb. I happen to be using Trillian on my Win7 machine as well. Check out the release notes:
http://blog.ceruleanstudios.com/?p=1949
It works as advertised. Chat history (both directions) are mirrored on all connected clients, and I can seamlessly chat between any of them. I can even load it up on my iPhone if I'm leaving the house.
History is stored serverside as well, so you have chat logs on all clients.
I'm NOT affiliated with Cerulean. I didn't even like Trillian that much in general until now. I just think it's probably the best chat client for Honeycomb or any mobile device just for this feature that works across ALL IM networks. Not just Google Talk.
Yep. I have been using trillian for 5 years. Love it.
I stopped using Trillian when they switched to a central server configuration and had my information/chats on their servers. Wish they offered a standalone IM app for Android, they did make a very nice chat program prior to that switch.
me tooo been using it for years
I am a java programmer. im trying to develop a free yahoo messenger for android (and maybe java SE/ME) i dont know, how i can connect to yahoo servers and send/receive messages... and also i dont know yahoo messenger servers and ports...
i searched in the net a few monthes ago. i find 3 libraries for doing this:
1. jYMSG: a library for java SE, but i thing i can use it for android programming.
2. OpenYMSG: based on jYMSG Library.
3. aymsg: i dont use it yet!
about the yahoo messenger servers and ports i find something (csc.msg.yahoo. , etc.) but know, i asked my questions in yahoo forum! i thing this way is better!
so:
- How can i connect to yahoo messenger for login/receive messages/send messeges/get contacts/...?
- Are there any official library for developing a yahoo messenger app for java (android, SE and ME) like jYMSG, OpenYMSG and aymsg?
- Please tell me best yahoo messenger server(s) and port(s).
If i can develop this app, i will upload it in net as a free messenger.
thank you.
Have you tried Yahoo IM API?
http://developer.yahoo.com/messenger/
http://developer.yahoo.com/messenger/guide/ch02.html
It supports JSON, so I guess you shouldn't have problems. Remember to get your API key.
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aliv.2022 said:
I am a java programmer. im trying to develop a free yahoo messenger for android (and maybe java SE/ME) i dont know, how i can connect to yahoo servers and send/receive messages... and also i dont know yahoo messenger servers and ports...
i searched in the net a few monthes ago. i find 3 libraries for doing this:
1. jYMSG: a library for java SE, but i thing i can use it for android programming.
2. OpenYMSG: based on jYMSG Library.
3. aymsg: i dont use it yet!
about the yahoo messenger servers and ports i find something (csc.msg.yahoo. , etc.) but know, i asked my questions in yahoo forum! i thing this way is better!
so:
- How can i connect to yahoo messenger for login/receive messages/send messeges/get contacts/...?
- Are there any official library for developing a yahoo messenger app for java (android, SE and ME) like jYMSG, OpenYMSG and aymsg?
- Please tell me best yahoo messenger server(s) and port(s).
If i can develop this app, i will upload it in net as a free messenger.
thank you.
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You could easily use the API said above along with an Android Framework such as Android Query to make the app ...