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I have been experimenting with video playback on the Tytyn, but am becoming disillusioned with the results!
I use PocketDivX Encoder 0.3.60, to convert using 2 pass xvid and b frames, and TCPMP, and the results were truly stunning on my old Kjam.
Whatever I try with the new Tytyn, does not even come close to the performance I was getting on my old device.
Does any one have any suggestions or recommend a successful encoding method that actually works on the Tytyn. I would like to hear from anyone who has managed to get a playback quality the same as the Kjam/Wizard i.e smooth video without loss of lipsync or jerky framerate.
Thanks
search for TYTN + TCPMP on this forum... this has been discussed A LOT.
pergolesi said:
I have been experimenting with video playback on the Tytyn, but am becoming disillusioned with the results!
I use PocketDivX Encoder 0.3.60, to convert using 2 pass xvid and b frames, and TCPMP, and the results were truly stunning on my old Kjam.
Whatever I try with the new Tytyn, does not even come close to the performance I was getting on my old device.
Does any one have any suggestions or recommend a successful encoding method that actually works on the Tytyn. I would like to hear from anyone who has managed to get a playback quality the same as the Kjam/Wizard i.e smooth video without loss of lipsync or jerky framerate.
Thanks
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Hi there & welcome to our videoplayback problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=354421#354421
It's not all bad, but I can't find any workaround for the meantime. Look out for The CorePlayer (The new TCPMP), hopefully when released, it will address these issues we have discovered. Meantime I am using 'ImToo_DVD 2 Ipod Converter' , which converts to high quality Mp4 format and plays back just fine for now and is definately on par with Divx/Xvid AVI encoding at 768kbps! It also converts a whole film in practically 20 mins plus compared to PocketDivx_Encoder or DVDx.
I have tried the Im too to ipod converter, and have had some very pleasing results.
Could you possibly let me know what settings you have checked/unchecked in TCPMP, for optimum playback of the resulting mp4 files?
Thank you very much, your help and advice is greatly appreciated.
Best regards
Pergolesi
yeah I had a good experience converting to mpeg4 except the filesize was much larger (almost twice the size as divx) is this the norm cause of divx compression?
MPEG4 Videos in TCPMP
Personally, I use the following settings for ImTOO DVD to iPod Converter:
Video Bit rate:512 or 768 (difference is negligable but size is better @ 512kbps)
Audio Bit Rate:64
Sample rate:22050
Channels:2
Video Size:320x240
Profile: iPod MPEG-4 Movie (*.mp4)
Zoom:Full (keep aspect ratio)
Split:Infinite (though it's nice to have a DVD encoded in the chapters it came in - TCPMP will play them in the correct order if saved as 'playlist')
**Do Check the Audio settings (under the Menu bar) as your DVD will probably have options for differnt Audio i.e English.
I know more settings are available, but this is a short-term fix for me (with acceptable results for me) until the new 'CorePlayer' is released.
In TCPMP the settings really don't make much of a difference either, but just make sure you have 'Video' set to 'Rawframebuffer' mode. I have found that all AVI and MP4 playback without major gripes, but the MP4 gets better results whilst benchmarking using 'ATI decoder'. Fat load of good that does you when it comes to playback though (back to rawframebuffer mode).
P.S. for smaller filesizes, just reduce the video bit rate like you would in AVI encoding.
MPEG4 Videos in TCPMP
Great info, I'm sure others will find this just as helpful as I have.
Thanks again.
Pergolesi
In TCMP what is the best setting, GDI or RAWFRAMEBUFFER?
Im asking this because on my tytn i can use both of them without problems.
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In TCMP what is the best setting, GDI or RAWFRAMEBUFFER?
Im asking this because on my tytn i can use both of them without problems.
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I use Rawframeuffer mode, but GDI will do also. Though benchmarking yields better results in Rawframebuffer mode for me.
I'm using TCPMP. I set ATI IMAGEON Decoder on.
When it start, the screen is not viewable.
But I press the action button, when the movie plays it is normal.
When I paused and resume, video play with low frame rate.
I goto Option, Speed, Select 100%, it's normal.
I have managed to get a pretty decent picture using TCMP & following some guides on the forums but if using my AD2P headset it makes the frames jump, although the sounds is good. Any hints?
Ad2p does encoding/decoding on the fly so will use alot of CPU. With Video also using the CPU it is not unsual for the video to be jumpy. I would try and convert your videos into a lower bitrate so that it does not require the high CPU usage.
for conversion i just use smartmovie converter as it is less of a pain setting up the bitrates and such
i use tcmp rather than wmp however for playback but have used smartmovie player before too with no issues.
Has any one else experienced extremely poor audio quality with the HTC Streaming Media program on the Touch Dual? (Viewing vides from m.youtube.com)?
Using the HTC Streaming Media player on my Treo 750 the quality was decent but on the Touch Dual it is so poor that it is essentially not usable and I'm hoping that somebody knows 1) why and 2) how to fix it.
I've searched the forums and found plenty of information referencing watching YouTube on the phone but nothing that hits on my problem.
Thanks,
Bob
hi
try the diamond streaming player it has also bad quality but it feels like its better u can find it in the hack and dev section in the diamond apps thread
editr use the youtube player, it s slower at streaming but it has same video/audio quality as on pc! you can also find on this forum
Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I did try one of the YouTube players but for whatever reason it could never find any Videos (I didn't put alot of effort into figuring out why.)
Still would like to know why the audio quality with the default streaming player is so poor . . .
hi,
im currently using coreplayer 1.2.4 for youtube. the simply BEST player!!! i could send you cab if you want, you can set streaming options for high, medium and low quality. high works nice and smooth here! htc streaming player is worse quality because its streaming over RTSP. but coreplayer can also stream over h264, which has waayyyyy better quality
can someone recoomend a good multi-format video player ...
everything seems to run slow in the ones i have and im not sure if its the video player thats slow, or just a side effect of a bloated WM6 rom.
thanks 4 help
The Core Pocket Media Player is a good choice. Plays DivX as well as other media files at a pretty good quality.
waxcarrot said:
can someone recoomend a good multi-format video player ...
everything seems to run slow in the ones i have and im not sure if its the video player thats slow, or just a side effect of a bloated WM6 rom.
thanks 4 help
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Yes, yes, and yes. Use TCPMP. Think about paring down your ROM, too.
The video still plays very slowly - about 10fps - would it be faster on a wm5 ?
I don't think WM5 will be any faster. The playback speed depends mostly on the format, size and quality of your video. In most cases you'll need to reencode your videos to 320x<something>.
I use this program for it:
http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
Easy setup, rather fast encoding. I usually use PDA setting, video quality 9-12, audio quality 4-5, 2-pass encoding (longer process but better quality), VHQ, no audio normalization and the rest at default setting (including orientation).
Also make sure that you have the video driver in TCPMP set to "raw framefuffer" (it's in options/video)
mr_deimos said:
I use this program for it:
http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
Easy setup, rather fast encoding. I usually use PDA setting, video quality 9-12, audio quality 4-5, 2-pass encoding (longer process but better quality), VHQ, no audio normalization and the rest at default setting (including orientation).
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I use SUPER to achieve the same ends, but the advice is still good. Download directly...here. This link is hard to find for some people.
I am having a lag problem playing some HD videos on my Xperia with Jack's 3.4 Med rom using Coreplayer 1.3.
Videos I tried:
Transformers 2 HD Trailer (852x355, 2643kbps, 23fps)
The Prodigy-Omen (1000x432, 2663 kbps, 25fps) (800x480, 1200kbps, 25fps)
The highest quality sample at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3045216&postcount=2
Plays all the regular videos/movies fine (Prodigy-Omen at 400x240, 644kbps, 23fps)
I tried directdraw and qtv with tytn II driver mode enabled.
How can I solve the HD playback problem?
Thanks.
EDIT: O MY GOODNESS!
I just saw the sticky on the top of the page...I feel so silly.
Thanks all.
If you are converting the video to mp4, than you should better use WMP, so that you can utilize vga's acceleration. Even with acceleration I really doubt that you can play 852x355, 2643kbps with no lag or missing frames. And if you use coreplayer, than you will get even slower playback performance. I can't even play xvid 640x352 800kbps without frame losses on coreplayer.
CorePlayer can't use hardware video acceleration...
IMO, the best way is to use TouchHD video converter to recode video and use Windows Player to watch them
Windows Player can use hardware video acceleration
thelucius said:
If you are converting the video to mp4, than you should better use WMP, so that you can utilize vga's acceleration. Even with acceleration I really doubt that you can play 852x355, 2643kbps with no lag or missing frames. And if you use coreplayer, than you will get even slower playback performance. I can't even play xvid 640x352 800kbps without frame losses on coreplayer.
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I recode video with touchHD converter and use windows player
I can watch Iron Man ( 800*336, MPEG-4 AVC 0.7 to 1.2Mbps, AAC 2.0 128Kbps) with no loss frames and no lag
At CorePlayer you can change buffering under settings that help a lot
the x1 can hardly handle standard def
Ohhh, thanks for all the tips.
Used TouchHD video converter and did them into MP4 but WMP says it can't load codec, really aching my processors...
Coreplayer plays my videos more smoothly than wmp ever does.