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Is it just me or XDA II's battery is weak???
The icon on my GPRS monitor show that I only have 4 hours (after full charge) before my battery runs out!! :evil:
Please advise me!!
Don't worry, 4 hours is based on phone talk time
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Don't worry, 4 hours is based on phone talk time
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My battery too is eaten up quickly when I activate the phone-abilty. Are there better batteries for sale anywhere?
I am for O2 to release a 'extended' battery.
At the moment I carry round two standard batteries swapping one by mid afternoon, which is a pain.
I would love one high-powered unit
Ashby
Battery time
I have found in a very non-sciencetific test, that the battery can actually last quite long:
7 hours 30 minutes (night) of Bluetooth OFF and no GPRS connection drained the battery from 100% to 96 %
7 hours 30 minutes of Bluetooth OFF and GPRS enabled, logged on to MS Messenger drained the battery from about 100% to 80 %. I was still logged on in the morning when turning the XDA on, pretty impressive.
Charging in the car cradle (Brodit active cradle) to and from work keeps the battery working all day.
Regards
Michael
I think the main problem is that we want our XDA's to do everything all at once i.e. GPRS online all day, Bluetooth active all day AND we want to actually use it at the same time i.e. make occasional phone calls (up to 1hr a day) AND use the PDA functions (1hr a day) AND perhaps to use it as an MP3 Walkman on the way to work as well (2hrs a day).
Yes it would be nice if it could do this but not everyone wants it to do so much and by providing as standard a battery suitable to last 18 hours (i.e. use all day - charge overnight) would mean the phone is uncompetetive in the market too expensive and too large (heavy). Would everyone pay another £60 ontop of what they paid (I know I would have thought twice)
I also do the battery dance mid afternoon so I for one would love to have a higher power battery (even if it means a bit more weight and size) but others do not. I suppose the real question is when will we at least get the option for a high power battery for us power users?
I think the only batteries available at the moment are the standard 1200mAh does anyone know how much difference would another 600mAh or even 1200mAh make to battery life?
for those who have it how long does the battery last with a normal use?(calls,sms and internet)Thank you in advance
No exact figure but I can easily go a day without charging and that's using BT carkit for over 1 hour. About 10 calls - 30 mins total and about 10 SMS.
Sometimes have wifi on also in the evenening to use Agile Messenger.
Gav.
Well the other day I web browsed for 10 minutes over UMTS, watched a TV show for 30 minutes, video called for 30 minutes, played games for 30 minutes and at the end of the day I still had 50% battery left.
Thats great!thank you!
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Well the other day I web browsed for 10 minutes over UMTS, watched a TV show for 30 minutes, video called for 30 minutes, played games for 30 minutes and at the end of the day I still had 50% battery left.
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Whoa, I can't agree that battery life is good because it depends which model you have and what software you use with it. I have a week old Cingular 8525 with Goodlink in a UMTS area and I get only 14 hours of battery life with low-moderate use of email alone. I turn it on at 6:45am each morning and power is down to 10-20% by 7-8pm and I've barely used the phone. Not great battery life compared to my 8125, which never died, even with heavy voice and Goodlink email usage.
I haven't traveled with my new 8525 yet but when I use it with heavy calling, I'm sure it wont get more than 12 hours, tops. I just bought a second battery because of this. I know battery life with Goodlink on the 8525 is a known issue, and is one of the reasons Cingular delayed its release, but it's REALLY BAD. I have a feeling Cingular is going to be getting more than a few 8525 returns because of poor battery life. If you use Goodlink on the 8525 you 100% need a second battery using the stock ROM.
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Whoa, I can't agree that battery life is good because it depends which model you have and what software you use with it. I have a week old Cingular 8525 with Goodlink in a UMTS area and I get only 14 hours of battery life with low-moderate use of email alone. I turn it on at 6:45am each morning and power is down to 10-20% by 7-8pm and I've barely used the phone. Not great battery life compared to my 8125, which never died, even with heavy voice and Goodlink email usage.
I haven't traveled with my new 8525 yet but when I use it with heavy calling, I'm sure it wont get more than 12 hours, tops. I just bought a second battery because of this. I know battery life with Goodlink on the 8525 is a known issue, and is one of the reasons Cingular delayed its release, but it's REALLY BAD. I have a feeling Cingular is going to be getting more than a few 8525 returns because of poor battery life. If you use Goodlink on the 8525 you 100% need a second battery using the stock ROM.
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i can concur that my 8525 has horrible battery life, i take mine off the charger around 9am, i dont really make calls, but do use pushmail, and some internet usage, mostly text and email, however mine is usually in need of a charge by 9pm when my low battery alert is coming on.. this is mostly in a UMTS area. My 8125 had far better battery life than this... oh the price we pay for speed
Exactly! That's why I bought an extra battery!
Love the 8525 speed, hate the battery life. I thought Goodlink was the problem, but it sounds like it just adds fuel to the bad battery problem.
If/when an updated rom from cingular comes out, I hope battery life will be the primary fix...
I think its the UMTS thats killing it.. i work in a UMTS area and thats where i see my biggest drain, when i am at home in a Edge area my drain is not nearly as huge, but still a bit more excessive than my 8125
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I think its the UMTS thats killing it.. i work in a UMTS area and thats where i see my biggest drain, when i am at home in a Edge area my drain is not nearly as huge, but still a bit more excessive than my 8125
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Just my 2 cents: I too believe that searching for/acquiring/holding a UMTS signal might be the cause for such rapid decline in battery power. However, to be fair I must state that 1) I do not live in a UMTS area, but have read similar posts elsewhere 2) I'm a total WM5 newbie(came from a Treo 650 and Moto Razr 3)Am looking forward to travelling to a UMTS area(Texas for me, I live in Oklahoma) to find out if it's all true. Speed/battery drain, etc.
However: I must add, that just this morning. My battery went down to 30% after 3 days usage. No push email/Good, etc. Heavy text messaging, some browsing, and even one phone call that lasted 59 minutes, over speaker phone. Not to mention the other calls, an occasional game of solitaire or bubble breaker. This possible issue is probably why Cingular is looking to release a larger battery in the future, but for me(right now) mine is ok for where I live and what I use it for.
i use my hermes in tokyo umts area and have connection always on for my push mail. i receive around 60 emails, a bit of occasional web browsing and less than 20 minutes making/receiving calls a day. i only turn on wifi and bluetooth when i use them but that's not everyday. i tend to agree that the stock battery life is not good enough as it will go down to like 30% in about 12 hours in my case.
i know that umts and connection always on are draining the battery but that's how i want to use it. instead of carrying a spare battery, i decided to purchase Mugen's 3000mAh battery and have started using it from this morning. it's really good as it still shows 80% left even after using it for over 10 hours already since i tooked it off the charger this morning.
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i use my hermes in tokyo umts area and have connection always on for my push mail. i receive around 60 emails, a bit of occasional web browsing and less than 20 minutes making/receiving calls a day. i only turn on wifi and bluetooth when i use them but that's not everyday. i tend to agree that the stock battery life is not good enough as it will go down to like 30% in about 12 hours in my case.
i know that umts and connection always on are draining the battery but that's how i want to use it. instead of carrying a spare battery, i decided to purchase Mugen's 3000mAh battery and have started using it from this morning. it's really good as it still shows 80% left even after using it for over 10 hours already since i tooked it off the charger this morning.
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Hey! Are they available for sale now? Are they in stock? Can you please advise of the website that you used to purchase this battery from? I'm assuming that it comes with the back phone cover, correct? Thanks in advance.
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Hey! Are they available for sale now? Are they in stock? Can you please advise of the website that you used to purchase this battery from? I'm assuming that it comes with the back phone cover, correct? Thanks in advance.
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yup, but it's only available from a japanese online store at the moment.
http://pocketgames.jp/
I don't believe they will ship to overseas though. just send them a note to confirm. it comes with the back phone cover if you mean it by the replacement battery cover. check it out your self at the site.
I'm only getting 8-10 hours on my TyTN. I'm going to be taking it back!
harryk1372 said:
i use my hermes in tokyo umts area and have connection always on for my push mail. i receive around 60 emails, a bit of occasional web browsing and less than 20 minutes making/receiving calls a day. i only turn on wifi and bluetooth when i use them but that's not everyday. i tend to agree that the stock battery life is not good enough as it will go down to like 30% in about 12 hours in my case.
i know that umts and connection always on are draining the battery but that's how i want to use it. instead of carrying a spare battery, i decided to purchase Mugen's 3000mAh battery and have started using it from this morning. it's really good as it still shows 80% left even after using it for over 10 hours already since i tooked it off the charger this morning.
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Hi Harry- could you post a link to a site to purchase the Mugen 3000mAh battery.
I was searching around and found a 1500mAh battery on Seidioonline (link below). I think I read somewhere (on this site) that advertised power and actual power are 2 very different things, but am encouraged that you are getting 10 hours and are still at 80%!
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=333
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Hi Harry- could you post a link to a site to purchase the Mugen 3000mAh battery.
I was searching around and found a 1500mAh battery on Seidioonline (link below). I think I read somewhere (on this site) that advertised power and actual power are 2 very different things, but am encouraged that you are getting 10 hours and are still at 80%!
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=333
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i'm still at 60% after running it for 25 hours without charging. i'll have to fully discharge it 3 times at least before achieving the stated capacity so i'll have to leave it uncharged for another day. what i'm seeing is definitely more than what i expected.
the link to the site from where i purchased it is pasted in my post above.
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Hi Harry- could you post a link to a site to purchase the Mugen 3000mAh battery.
I was searching around and found a 1500mAh battery on Seidioonline (link below). I think I read somewhere (on this site) that advertised power and actual power are 2 very different things, but am encouraged that you are getting 10 hours and are still at 80%!
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=333
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That 1500 mah battery at Seidio Online seems wonderful, but I couldn't find any references or review that comment on the following:
- If it is compatible with the Hermes (8525/TyTn/etc.)
- If it truly provide 11% more talk/standby time
- If charging it with original Hermes charger will damage the phone in anyway or just simply taking longer to charge.
If any of the above is OK, I'd buy it in a heartbeat and make the original 1360 MAH battery my 2nd battery.
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That 1500 mah battery at Seidio Online seems wonderful, but I couldn't find any references or review that comment on the following:
- If it is compatible with the Hermes (8525/TyTn/etc.)
- If it truly provide 11% more talk/standby time
- If charging it with original Hermes charger will damage the phone in anyway or just simply taking longer to charge.
If any of the above is OK, I'd buy it in a heartbeat and make the original 1360 MAH battery my 2nd battery.
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it is compatible with hermes so you don't have to worry about its compatibility. i don't believe it will damage it with the original hermes charger as i have used it for sometime.
with that said, don't expect any significant difference as it has only 150mah advantage and i couldn't even recognize the difference. i don't think it is worth spending the money unless you just want to get a spare battery but just the stock battery is way cheaper for a spare. i recommend all to go for the 3000mah one from mugen if you need longer battery life.
so this weekend i am off work and live in a non 3G area.. and all i can say is what a difference there is in battery consumption.. my phone has been off the charger for almost 6 hours and have had moderate usage and i only just recently hit 90%.. now if i was working today i would have already been at the 50-60% range... For my device i can say that 3G kills my battery life... actually i think my battery life in an "edge only" area is very comparable if not better than my 8125.. but in a 3g area i would get better battery life if i just shorted out the contacts on my battery (newbs that was joke, *DO NOT* short out the contacts on your battery)
I have the Seidio battery. It fits but not as well as the original. The cover bows up slightly when it's installed. Performance is slightly better than the original.
Average business use, couple of hours of calls , some web browsing, push email on, about a day and a half with standard battery.
HTC644 Vario II
I have a slight beef about my 8525. Sure, it's a great phone with a lot of features, but that only goes so far when the battery life is terrible. I came from a RAZR so maybe I am expecting too much, but I can start the day with 70% battery life and take a couple pictures and browse the Internet for a few minutes (under 10) and end up with 40% battery life by the end of the day. I'm not keeping Bluetooth, WiFi or any Cingular connection open and I am leaving the phone in standby. It seems like anytime I do anything, the battery life goes down 10%. The only software I have installed is Google Maps mobile. Is this normal or am I expection too much out of this thing?
I have done the registry edits for better battery life and conditioned the battery properly when I got it. Will a different radio version help (I currently have 1.40.30.00 on WM5) or WM6 help?
I once placed a 45 minute call and the battery life went down 20% just by doing that.
Am I being too picky?
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I have done the registry edits for better battery life and conditioned the battery properly when I got it. Will a different radio version help (I currently have 1.40.30.00 on WM5) or WM6 help?
I once placed a 45 minute call and the battery life went down 20% just by doing that.
Am I being too picky?
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I've seen people say that some radio's gulp power like crazy, so u cud experiment with different radio's.
I'm on 1.47 rite now and I talk a lot of my phone, use google maps, browse the web, and I charge my phone once every 2 days or so. So its pretty good, i think for the amount of functions the phone has.
I just did a search for battery just in this forum, and in the title of the thread and found a lot of similar complaints so I don't feel so bad now. I also did the registry edit that allows the BAND tab to show under the PHONE settings so I can manually lock my phone to EDGE most of the time and select UMTS only when I prefer the additional speed. One would logically conclude that locking the band would help battery life. We shall see
Radio 1.40.30.00 seems to be a radio version most people are content with so I am stick with it for the time being.
Battery Life
I had an 8125 for almost a year and it was usually good for a day or so.
I recently dropped the 8125 into a cup of water... Amazingly it was not submersible. So now I have the 8525 here in Los Angeles.
The battery life is pretty pathetic. If I unplug the phone in the morning (around 10am) and just carry it around with me without even talking by 2am the phone is letting me know the battery is low.
If I talk on the phone (under an hour) then the phone is dead by 11pm
I use Google Maps for the traffic, and I also have multiple exchange email accounts which check about every 10 minutes.
On days when I actually use the phone and google maps, if I unplug at 10am the phone is dead by 6pm.
At the moment I am running Schnaps 3.60a.
Dave
*All* PocketPC phones will have battery life about as long as yours has.
The problem here is merely that you are trying to compare its battery life to a normal cell phone. For the past 4-5 years, the battery life on Windows PocketPC phones has been about the same.
If you want to compare your PocketPC to another device with regard to battery life, you have to compare it to a laptop and not a cell phone.
Welcome to the future.
I do realize that all of the advanced features will use more juice. I use a HP iPAQ and a Dell Axim at work which both use WM5 and those only get around 4-5 hours of life before they are dead.
It just seems that battery technology is lagging behind the electronic gadgets that use them.
I almost hate leaving the house with the phone being less that fully charged in case I really need it somewhere I am not around a place it can be charged. Suppose a car charger would be in order.
Yes! Crappy Battery Life on the 8525
Yes. I came from an 8125 (ActiveSync on 25/7) and was able to use my phone for 1.5 days. With the 8525, I am lucky to get 6-8 hours. Big bummer!
I locked my 8525 into the Edge network and I believe that my battery life has increased marginally. Of course, this will not work for some people because they need the faster 3G network, but if you would rather have longer battery life, I say give this trick a try. It is really nice if you live in a fringe area where your phone bounces from Edge to 3G and back again frequently.
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*All* PocketPC phones will have battery life about as long as yours has.
The problem here is merely that you are trying to compare its battery life to a normal cell phone. For the past 4-5 years, the battery life on Windows PocketPC phones has been about the same.
If you want to compare your PocketPC to another device with regard to battery life, you have to compare it to a laptop and not a cell phone.
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Sorry but you are totaly wrong.
I had a TyTN for 3 monthes. I hardly had more than 24h in standby (no phone, wifi & Co). Phone was only in GSM mode, no UMTS. Tryed a lot of rom/radios.
I sold it, cause this was really too ridiculous.
Now I own a HTC Touch. With same usage and applications installed, I charge my phone only every 4 to 5 days.
12h in standby = only 10% less for battery.
This added to form factor made me very happy, no way I come back to hermes or even kaiser ...
Hi,
I have diamond, and thinking to get diamond2.
I have a question for D2 owners.
How is the battery life on D2, because the original battery for D1 was terrible, I got the extendet one so it's ok. But as I know there is no extendet battery for D2. And the stock one is just a bit bigger then D1. But the screen is also bigger on D2, with drains more battery, I think.
How long the phone lasts with moderate use? Also is there a difference with 6.1 and 6.5.1 rom with battery drainage?
And maybe someone had D1 and now hase D2, so whats the + and - compared?
Thanks
I have had both. The TD2's battery is considerably better than the TD(1) in my opinion. I'd say the TD2 would be at about 30-40% charge once the TD(1) run out.
I think my TD2's battery is pretty good, as long as 3G and bluetooth are turned off. Other than that: abysmal (Not quite TD1 bad, but almost)
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Hi,
How long the phone lasts with moderate use?
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I'm getting around 90 hours. I recharge when the battery reaches 40%-50%. Generally bluetooth, wifi, and cellphone radios are turned off. I use my TD2 as PDA.
I find the D2 battery life on WM6.5 much improved. I seemed to be always charging it but now, it's less critical. Also, with all transmitters turned off, the lifetime is pretty good. My phone was on for a week on holiday and the battery was 90% by the end of the week having turned the mobile on for an hour or so to check messages a couple of times.
Of course, turning the phone & WiFi off isn't very practical but it does shown where the power drain comes from - no surprises there!
Cheers, Rob.
am getting 2 days , to 3 ...normal usage, and songs.
got even 4 days with normal usage. Can always buy a bigger battery
My wife got a TD2, and battery lasts for 3-4 days with her usage, and when I used her phone it lasts about 2 days. Not too bad, really.
The longer you have the TD2, the less you "play" with it and therefore the better the battery becomes. Never base battery consumption in the first month of getting your new toy
Cheers, Rob.
On ROM Base 2.18 drained for couple hour.
On 2.16 go 3-4 days with normal usage...
Regards
I have Duty HG R6 and battery drains FAST! Fully charged it lasts less than a day with normal usage on 2G network and everything turned off (BT, WF), few messages and max 2 hours of talking! And one more thing, anyone else experiencing that phone is getting hotter after 5-10 minutes of talking? Sometimes I cant put it on ear because of that...
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I have Duty HG R6 and battery drains FAST! Fully charged it lasts less than a day with normal usage on 2G network and everything turned off (BT, WF), few messages and max 2 hours of talking! And one more thing, anyone else experiencing that phone is getting hotter after 5-10 minutes of talking? Sometimes I cant put it on ear because of that...
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Same here, 2 hours of talking and battery are gone, all other (BT, Wifi, 3G) are off, no play with device, only talking and some short e-mail read or write.
I search this forum and all users write that device last for 3-4 day ?? But what usage are to last 3-4 day, my phone is empty on half of working day.
And yes, phone are hot after 10-20 minutes of talking, some time my call last for 50-60 minutes, and this is terrible, like radiator on ear.
My call consumes eta 1% for 1 minute of call, (13 minutes , battery drops 11-12%)
Is this normal for this device, i have no answer on this question, but i plan send device to HTC service, because 5 h of talking in specification are far away in my Diamond2.
Maybe we should try some rom with 2.16 base and not 2.18 like miro666 sad. Will try it soon and report than and I'm using 4.49.25.14 radio...
I always have everything switched on with wifi and data access available when needed.
I run a 'lite' ROM, always install all apps to phone mem (Micro SD usage consumes a lot of power) and charge as often as possible.
I am probably what you would describe as a heavy user. I always carry a spare battery and an external power pack.
I need the extra power only rarely and so I usually make it throught an eight hour day on phone power alone with this usage.
Only a Day
I have a standard TD2 with a standard UK 6.5 upgrade.
Battery beeds charging daily. Im not even a heavy user. I make/receive a few calls, send a few texts, check my email and use "Brain Trainer" game for 15mins whilst on the bus going home from work.
The battery is pants!!
So i was wondering.. How is your battery performance on your Hero ?
Well mine is mere **** to say the least I need to charge it during the night and one more time during the day and when i go to bed its empty again .. Not.. good ! I use the Kimera 3.0 rom, which is perfect speed wise.. But the battery is another story (maybe not because of the rom?)
I use the phone a whole lot though.. Much time on Wifi and when not on wifi im on 3G / HDSPA .. But is the battery really supposed to be THAT ****ty?
Is there anything i can do to fix it?
My battery was holding for about 5 days at the beginning, currently it dropped to 2 days
call+sms+game(30')+wifi
used about 1 day
Battery is draining in no time!
If you are using a Custom ROM, after fully recharging your mobile phone
(i.e don't trust the green led, charge for more time) go to recovery and wipe battery stats.
If you still on stock rom, then start closing wifi/bluetooth etc etc..
My experience is that I had to charge it over night once and at least once
during the day... otherwise I would not be having a mobile phone to use
After 2 years my phone's battery is ... how can I say in one word? hmm ... Oh yeah, CRAP! , I recharge it twice a day or once a day but once a day is the perfect word depending how much Mobile Data I use (social networks, browser) and very few calls of 20 to 40 minutes total each day and maybe just maybe 30 minutes of games (once or twice a week I play games). It's not what it used to be .. now I am thinking getting a pocket for my charger for when I go somewhere
My battery was really bad, I'd have to recharge it at night and around 4 PM. Now I bought a new one and it easily makes it a day with 3g turned on and using it a lot.
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i don't do much things with my phone except like texts and calls, some times wifi, so my battery can last about 2days, which still makes me have no words to say.
Mine lastes about 1 day(Heavy use). And i think is is perfect because i always recharge over night. So it does not need to last more than 12 h.
A couple months back my battery was getting swollen. Enough to make the battery cover bulge a bit. Battery life became a big problem at the end... turn on 3G and I could watch the battery percentage go down before my eyes.
I bought a battery (http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...xtended-replacement-battery-for-htc-hero.html) from Mugen's outlet store (which now seems to be gone?)
The new battery is great. It is at least as good as the original but probably better. The new battery has approx 200mAh more capacity.
I can get at least 1.5 - 2 days with 3G/wifi on all the time. I don't let twitter or facebook or whatever sync all the time though.
Battery holding out real well
I am using the Elelinux 7.1 Custom and it feels like the Battery life has improved. it ist holding out almost 2 and a half day, with 3g on during the day.
I can't remember the battery lasting longer than that but of course shorter. tried a senserom once Hero lived about 24 h.
I am expecting somehow the battery to crash soon I am using him since 2.5 years.
We will see.
I have just bought a new battery for my phone but it still dorps to 45% from the 8 in the morn till 23PM. Old one didn't make it till the night.
Average use. Half an hour calls, all time data network connection at hsdpa. 2 email accounts + gmail and facebook syncing.
I charge my hero every night save in exceptional cases, use the 3G connection when away from home and wi fi when they are, I surf on the internet enough and i play with games sometimes!
I think it's okay
i can use it fro an entire day w/o the battery dropping below 30% so im very happy with it. I always load it when I'm at home
After 2 years my phones battery still doesn't drain that much energy. I can llast 2 days with my Hero with the ICS rom from Glassmacka [Ice Cream Sandwich for Hero