8525 gets hot and battery drains - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Every so often my 8525 has this symptom where the battery gets real warm, and the power level drops like crazy. If I don't soft reset, it'll kill the battery completely in an hour.
It's probably some application running in the background that's looping or something. I have a few commercial apps installed, but it's an OEM rom, radio, etc.
I'm using mobile shell and the task manager shows me that nothing is running. Is there a task manager that will show me all the running tasks, and not just mine? Something similar to XP's task manager?

roboHaxx said:
Every so often my 8525 has this symptom where the battery gets real warm, and the power level drops like crazy. If I don't soft reset, it'll kill the battery completely in an hour.
It's probably some application running in the background that's looping or something. I have a few commercial apps installed, but it's an OEM rom, radio, etc.
I'm using mobile shell and the task manager shows me that nothing is running. Is there a task manager that will show me all the running tasks, and not just mine? Something similar to XP's task manager?
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Sktools will show processes.
Mike

Thanks, I'll give that a try.

roboHaxx said:
Every so often my 8525 has this symptom where the battery gets real warm, and the power level drops like crazy. If I don't soft reset, it'll kill the battery completely in an hour.
It's probably some application running in the background that's looping or something. I have a few commercial apps installed, but it's an OEM rom, radio, etc.
I'm using mobile shell and the task manager shows me that nothing is running. Is there a task manager that will show me all the running tasks, and not just mine? Something similar to XP's task manager?
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I just noticed the same problem with my 8525 as well. Exact same symptoms. I'm running CUSTEL 2.5, but I don't think it is related to CUSTEL. I have installed the vibration feedback hack recently. I wonder if that caused it, but there is no uninstall for it as far as I know.

have you guys updated your radio? your you using pushmail?

I'm running an OEM ROM, radio, etc. I have several additional programs installed, almost all commercial stuff. I don't use push mail, but I do poll for new POP mail every 15 minutes.
I installed the SKTools trial, but the task manager display doesn't show me CPU utilization, so it's not of much use for debugging this issue.
Upon further investigation, it seems the problem can start when I have the phone in my pocket for a while. When I pull it out of my pocket, it's warm. Maybe it's searching for a signal, or maybe I was leaning on a button. Once I soft-reset, it goes back to normal. For the record, this has happened 4-5 times total.

It happens to me once a week.
Brutal!
I am really unimpressed with this device so far.
Lots of hanging/rebooting/etc.
I think I'll upgrade to WM6 and see what happens.
But when this thing gets hot... wow, it's hot!

Michael_514 said:
It happens to me once a week.
Brutal!
I am really unimpressed with this device so far.
Lots of hanging/rebooting/etc.
I think I'll upgrade to WM6 and see what happens.
But when this thing gets hot... wow, it's hot!
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Love my 8525. Don't have ANY of the problems you're talking about. I upped to WM6 a while back to Black 1.2, and have stuck with it. Love it!!!

Michael_514 said:
It happens to me once a week.
Brutal!
I am really unimpressed with this device so far.
Lots of hanging/rebooting/etc.
I think I'll upgrade to WM6 and see what happens.
But when this thing gets hot... wow, it's hot!
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Have you done some of the standard things to reduce lock-ups and freezing?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1078848&postcount=2
Mike

Have you guys solved this?
I've got similar experience with my new SPV M3100. While it was in my pocket it gets really hot and battery drains very fast. Task manager shows no running apps. Happened to me a few times in two weeks on both WM5 and WM6 ROMs.
P.S. There wasn't a SIM card in the device and the device was in flight mode! So no searching for signal...

Perhaps messenger is running?
I had the issue where I thought I had closed messenger, but it was running in the background. It kept trying to connect to the internet, and it took me a while to find out I hadn't closed it.
Jörg

roboHaxx said:
Every so often my 8525 has this symptom where the battery gets real warm, and the power level drops like crazy. If I don't soft reset, it'll kill the battery completely in an hour.
It's probably some application running in the background that's looping or something. I have a few commercial apps installed, but it's an OEM rom, radio, etc.
I'm using mobile shell and the task manager shows me that nothing is running. Is there a task manager that will show me all the running tasks, and not just mine? Something similar to XP's task manager?
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I had that problem when i used softbank x01ht at beginning. Also suspected that there are problems in software or battery like you guys. But finally it turns out the problem of phone circuit board. I sent it to repair center and now its ok.

Solution
Your camera software is running in the background and is heating up the processor while running. You must make sure you close out of the camera software completely when you finish using it. I ran into this problem too and found this solution to work.

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I-Mate turns ON by itself

Well,
Aside of the comatose battery life that this device has, to which one gets used after a while, now I had something new happening! While whatching the device on a table during a meeting, I was suprised to see it turn on by itself! NO, No alarms, or incomming calls, task reminders or the like. It just went on, and back off after the time set on the battery settings! I checked the settings, soft reset the device, and nothing. It seems to turn on and off every 3 to 5 minutes! This will cause battery life to drain even faster! Does anyone have a clue????
Cheers
Mceitlin
Probably it is a issue with ActiveSync on your pocket pc.
Try to have a look into ActiveSynch menu:START-Activesync-options and change Mobile schedule,etc..
Regards,
Ser
Thanks, but I already tried this. I even disabled all synching and nothing seems to solve this issue! It is anoying as it drains battery even faster ! Any other suggestion ?
join the club mate if you look around youll see a fairly big thread about it and btw its nothing to do with activesync its the phone itself lol
MCEITLIN said:
Thanks, but I already tried this. I even disabled all synching and nothing seems to solve this issue! It is anoying as it drains battery even faster ! Any other suggestion ?
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Do you have Spb Pocket Plus installed? If so, check the version. I had version 2.0 build 1178 installed and I noticed that my XDA II would just power on by itself every so often. It got to the point that the battery was being drained very fast for the PDA to be useful for a day. I also noticed that an entry is added in the notification database every so often. It has an application name of PlusReminder.exe.
I sent a technical query to Spb and they advised me to download the latest copy of Pocket Plus. I did. I now have version 2.0 build 1184 installed, and now, the notification database problem is gone. Also, even though the device still turns itself on once in a while, it's no longer as bad as before. It's back to being useful again as the battery can now last for a day.
Hope this helps.
I checked everything I had installed. Almost no 3rd party software other than Staralliance timetable, and pocket TV. No SBP or any other software mentioned on the threads to be causng any trouble. I then went over every single move I made over the past 3 days trying to remember what I had changed... Tadaaaa!!! I forgot I run spritesoftware's Sprite BackUP, which by the way I highly recommend! I had set the battery monitor to back up automatically when the battery reaches the 30% treshold. Indeed, the momet I UNchecked that option, it stopped!!!! :lol:

Cingular 8525 Gets Warm

I began to notice that for no apparent reason, my Cingular 8525 gets warm once in a while (not all the time). But no wifi is on and phone signal is strong, so no searching for towers. I also don't have any software that auto downloads anything. Something is making the processor work to heat the thing up. All the software I have installed is software I've used before and had no issues in the past on other devices including an 8525 sister, the Sprint 6700. I haven't had a chance to try a hard reset and a clean device. But a soft reset does cool things down
But I noticed a few posts about people with TyTn's and other Hermes 200 devices having a similar problem though there hasn't been too much discussion on it. Is anyone else noticing this?
Typically the phone gets heated up because there's an app running that's processor intensive ... could be as simple as UMTS or too many open connections ... Soft reset cooling things down strongly indicates that ..
You can try using a TaskMgr to find this rogue app ...
gravejoker said:
Typically the phone gets heated up because there's an app running that's processor intensive ... could be as simple as UMTS or too many open connections ... Soft reset cooling things down strongly indicates that ..
You can try using a TaskMgr to find this rogue app ...
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I ws going to try a task/process manager app. I also do not live in a UTMS area yet, just EDGE. But I looked through Startup folder and the registry. I don't see anything that should be running in the background. The only real suspicious thing is the new Voice Command v1.6. When it got warm once, I disabled Voice Command (without rebooting) and the phone cooled off immediately. But a second time I tried it, the phone stayed warm, no difference. Hmmmm...
DaleReeck said:
I ws going to try a task/process manager app. I also do not live in a UTMS area yet, just EDGE. But I looked through Startup folder and the registry. I don't see anything that should be running in the background. The only real suspicious thing is the new Voice Command v1.6. When it got warm once, I disabled Voice Command (without rebooting) and the phone cooled off immediately. But a second time I tried it, the phone stayed warm, no difference. Hmmmm...
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my 8525 gets really warm when I stream TV.
I imagine it will get warm when you do heavy data transfer, like streaming. I tried revisiting the Microsoft Voice Dial thing. Again, it cooled down after deactivating VC and its still cool. Come to think about it, the second time I tried and it didn't seem to cool down, actually it did, just not as much as the first and third times. I have to keep watching it.

Massive Problems with battery

Hey guys,
at the moment I have a massive problem with my HTC HD2. Several month ago I flashed it with 6.5.3 and installed some little things, mostly for the design. Everything worked fine for 3 month, but now since this week, my HD2 is loosing battery extremly fast. If I charge it full, it is completly off after 20 hours WITHOUT using it. So I know the HD2 needs lots of battery, but if you don't use it very often, I could use it at least for several days and now, thats not possible anymore. I don't know why, I haven't changed anything. Also I think it got slower, so I checked for running applications with the task manager, but there is nothing????
So I'm kind of helpless right now, also I'm scared that I lost my gurantee with the update on 6.5.3.....
Do you guys have any ideas?
I'd try the easiest first and work your way down to the more complex things:
1) Re-calibrate the battery (sounds like you might have done this by completey running it down and then fully charging it.)
2) Remove the microsd card and see if you still get extreme battery drain to see if the problem is being caused by that.
3) Check that the wifi is idling when in standby and not staying connected.
4) Hard reset the phone.
Let me know if any of these shows a result.
I will do that, btw. I forgot one more problem. I have it often that I can't unlook the phone. so when its looked, the screen is black, normaly one push of any button is getting me back to the keylook screen where I can slide the button, but since I have the battery problem, I also have the problem that the screen stays black and only the hard buttons at the bottom are lighted, but the screen stays black. When I wait for some more time, than I can use it again, but for like 20 seconds its not usable.......it seems that something is using all the processor power.....DAMN this problem really freaks me out.
I know you said you checked for running apps with task manager, but if you meant the one that comes on the phone then I'd strongly recommend getting dotfred task manager (google finds it no problem). It's a much better task manager and gives you control over processes, rather than just listing them.
Edit:
Since it's so easy to google for it, I did it for you I'd only got as far as "dotfr" and google suggested it!
http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm
Ok I have installed it, if I check the cpu usage the process filesys.exe is using around 95%??? If I kill the process the phone freezes....also how can I identify process which are not working probably?
Ok, its definitiv the filesys.exe process which is killing my phone......everytime the phone is extremly slow, the filesys.exe process is using 95-100% of the cpu. I don't know why and when this process is running, sometimes it does, sometimes not.....how can I stop this process from killing my phone?
I already have removed the microsd card and the wifi is also not odeling.

GT-i9000m has been locking up recently to the point of removing the battery.

It went from extremely rarely doing it to three or four times just the other night in the span of a few hours. I can't reproduce it on command but it happens when I lock the screen and put it in my pocket. Then sometimes when I take it out it is entirely non-responsive, even the power button doesn't work. I have to remove and reinsert the battery.
It could be ADW Launcher or WidgetLocker since those are the only two programs always running, but I was hoping someone else experiences a similar issue. It hasn't happened when I normally lock it yet though, so it could also be the proximity sensor maybe?
Having the same issue (on Bell as well), but not running either of those two apps. Was almost to the point of returning the phone and then installed JM7 and it's been better, although not perfect. Last night it locked up with NoLED displaying an icon, so I've deleted that app to see if that's the issue. It hasn't locked up today, but it did reboot a few hours ago seemingly at random. :shrug:
Your internal sd card might be failing like all the other i9000m phones I see on this forum bricking themselves .
clubtech said:
Your internal sd card might be failing like all the other i9000m phones I see on this forum bricking themselves .
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Oh, that doesn't sound pleasant at all...
I'm outside of Bell's 30 day exchange period plus I've talked for over 30 minutes, so I'll have to go through Samsung if it completely breaks. On the plus side, a phone from them should be three button recoverable.
Although I can't be without a phone for weeks, I hope it's not the SD card.
Mine Lags like crazy once every few days till the point I need to restart it. Any idea why this is do?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Hold your horses people....
before you jump about the lag, and or one click lag fix and such
first you have to investigate what is running on your phone.
just over the weekend (since XDA was down) i stalled over 400 Apps
my phone slowed down to snail speed, then i ran my Startup Manager software (many to choose from)
I suggest Startup Cleaner 2.0 then uncheck everything, leave only the apps that you want to run during start up
reboot your phone and presto, fast as new!
if you can find version 2.1 of startup manager that one is even better
keep note, start up manager apps are not the same as task killer apps
it only run once during start up, and it helps you easily select what should and should not run during start up, so it doesn't stay in memory after it runs
on the same topic
you should also configure your Task Killer apps to kill everything, and add only the wants you want to be running to the ignore list.
that will keep the phone working smoothly even without the "one click lag fix"
i'm still running stock on my JH2 i9000m
AllGamer said:
Hold your horses people....
before you jump about the lag, and or one click lag fix and such
first you have to investigate what is running on your phone.
just over the weekend (since XDA was down) i stalled over 400 Apps
my phone slowed down to snail speed, then i ran my Startup Manager software (many to choose from)
I suggest Startup Cleaner 2.0 then uncheck everything, leave only the apps that you want to run during start up
reboot your phone and presto, fast as new!
if you can find version 2.1 of startup manager that one is even better
keep note, start up manager apps are not the same as task killer apps
it only run once during start up, and it helps you easily select what should and should not run during start up, so it doesn't stay in memory after it runs
on the same topic
you should also configure your Task Killer apps to kill everything, and add only the wants you want to be running to the ignore list.
that will keep the phone working smoothly even without the "one click lag fix"
i'm still running stock on my JH2 i9000m
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All gamer has a good sugestion here BUT we are going to get people flaming the fact that Android shouldnt need task managers.....
Ho hum..
TBH in my experience, I have found (after a couple of hard resets) that there appears to be a size limit for installed apps. Once I get over this size limit, I get LAGTASTIC, phone slows to a snails pace, then I remove a few of the apps and I am back at light speed again....
I cant say what the limit is, but I know when I have hit it - I would then uninstall a lame app or two and get back running.
Yes a lot of people "claims" that, but yet you do a search in Android Market, you see LOTS of Task Manager / Killer apps for every phone.
they were not designed for Galaxy S, they were designed long ago for all the other phones that had and still have the same problems of memory management causing lags
Android is not robust enough to survive without one
heck not even Windows 7 or Windows Mobiles phone
I just read that possibly the phone freezes while trying to find a signal. As this problem has only recently started, and I just recently moved into university, and many buildings receive little to no wireless signal, I think it's more than a coincidence. I'll try going to plane mode before entering lecture halls and basements.
Frostshock said:
I just read that possibly the phone freezes while trying to find a signal. As this problem has only recently started, and I just recently moved into university, and many buildings receive little to no wireless signal, I think it's more than a coincidence. I'll try going to plane mode before entering lecture halls and basements.
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i don't think that is the case with the Galaxy S
however back then my Treo 650 did suffer from that.
if you believe that is the problem then try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7999389&postcount=28
more cool apps here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7999389

No battery issues for ages, and now they start

So, I've had reasonable battery life now for a while and no real drainage of any description, but for some reason, the last few days, it has started, and I can't really see why...
Today it drained the last 22% to completely flat in 28 minutes - I know this because I was using the stopwatch function with the screen turned always on while cooking my dinner. The phone ran out before my dinner was finished.
Checked the battery usage, and Android OS was only at 13% and no sign of wifi sharing. Nothing was running in the background (according to Sammy's task manager).
I don't get it, its behaved for ages, and now for no apparent reason it starts draining - I have restarted it each time I've noticed it, I've never used Samsungs hubs, or anything like that, and I don't have an affected wifi router. I'm on KE1 but never felt any reason to upgrade (if it ain't broke, don't fix it).
I know we've had a million posts about battery but I just can't believe the randomness of it suddenly starting when it's behaved for weeks on end...
So has anyone else experience this randomness, and has anyone managed to find a solution? I'm starting to think one of the ROMs but that means wiping which I didn't really want to do.
Maybe a failing battery?
Before we go there, use a different "task manager". The Samsung task manager doesn't show everything. At least in TW3 on my Vibrant it didn't. Although some say don't use Advance Task Killer, I find that it shows more than the stock task manager. I would only use ATK to see if there were more apps running in the background than what Samsung's task manager is telling you.
There is another task manager that warns the user of high CPU usage so you can kill those apps. Not sure what it's called, but you might want to use that.
Speed-cooking?

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