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I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
Spb pocketplus may not be supported by wm05?.Perhaps the next release will work though as i'm getting either the wizard or universal so I hope it does!
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
bugs are ok, it makes the patches more anticipated, and of course, with out this kind of feedback sofware houses wouldn't always reveal the issues before software is released.
Tekflow said:
I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
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dude all of these are software (activesync and windows 5 related) none are related to jasjar...the jasjar is the most stable imate device EVER
yes there are issues between the new active sync and windows and firewall and the antivirus that you run but these are Microsofts faults not jasjars...
to answer your questions
1) this is a bummer.. i really wish they had given the option of backing up device..anywyas thats why you have ppc softwares that do backup..the one working on wm5 is sunnysoft backup..
2)most of the softwares lag behind.. wm5 is out but not all software makers have updated their products..NOTE AGAIN THIS IS NOT JASJARS FAULT..its YOURs you can wait 6 more months by then spbsoftware should have a pocketplus that works on wm5
3)dude again old applications like sktools dont work on wm5... if you want you can use pocket mechanic and memmaid ..they work fine.. for task manager i use dinarsoft handy sweitcher..not only its an excellent application but it works on wm5 aswelll...
4)you have your firewall and antivirus software and to blame for this...not jasjar..for me i had to FORMAT my laptop and install activesync before i turned on firewall and installed an antivirus program...only then did active sync work..and its flawless now.. oen word my personal experience trendmicro2002 doesnt work with AS however 2005 version of pcillin works with its personal firewall set to off...
hope i cleared up a few misconceptions for you
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Well,
1) That is annoying. I hadn't noticed that, but I'm sure it'll be addressed in future...
2) As zohaer21 says, that's purely because we have the latest, greatest bleeding edge technology, and the software developers have yet to catch up. (In the meantime, HandySwitcher is working perfectly on my device, no bugs, no crashes, just what it's meant to do!)
3) Have you tried installing anything from a .cab file to see if you still have a problem uninstalling? I'd guess ActiveSync is probably your problem...
4) Can't really help there...I'd suggest removing Activesync completely from your PC and installing it again from scratch. Personally I'm not using the bundled version of ActiveSync (4.1?) because I had an old 4.0.??? already but I don't think I've heard of anyone else with that issue yet so I'd assume it's a problem with your PC installation?
Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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True, but MS changed WM5 significantly from WM2003, many more changes than Windows 2000 -> Windows XP. The biggest changes were (1) persistent storage and new memory handling and (2) WM5's compatibility with MS Smartphone apps. I am not surprised a good number of apps aren't working.
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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It does not depend on that gap but on what they did durring that gap. If you do not change structural things, backwards compatibility can last a long time.
Actually the gap between WM2003SE and WM5 is quite large for some software developers. Notably some applications that synchronise databases (TimeTTRacker, Commontime mNotes) have to be rewritten from the ground up, even though we are only talking about a 1 year gap. Microsoft did change some crucial things, even if it does not show at first glance.
sorry, my post came across a bit bolshy. It wasn't intended.
I meant that developers would hope that they wouldn't have to re-write their apps every few years. I like the changes, because it adds more structure and makes it more of a uniform platform, but we've got to hope that they don't change these very often.
It would help if MS supplied the emulators for WM5 free of charge. (I'm yet to find any)
No worries
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for PPC
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F2-F524-4EC5-9155-717CBE5D25ED&displaylang=en
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for Smartphone
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-738A-4B97-8910-5CD29AB5F8D9&displaylang=en
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
hey mat1t dont worry about it,
just dont get put deisel in a petrol car, my analogy of the issues
louisk said:
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
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Correct!
It does work under WM5.0 Just make sure you are on version 3
If you are on Version 3 and still refuses to install, copy the CAB file over the device and execute/install from there.
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mat1t said:
Carnivor said:
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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hi
it works but it makes it really slow (inlcuding the start up if you use the quick launch menu whatever)..i guess you can say its not wm5 optimized as yet
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SPB Pocket plus does install and work. I had to do a hard reset after I initially used my Jasjar and everything worked right. Like email accounts etc. What I would like to see is a program like gb tweak that keeps the gprs allways alive. But so for there is nothing out there. NO problems with my JasJar at all.
Mike
@Tekflow
Since you got a Jasjar, plz can you upload for us the Arabizer package from the Extended_Rom ?
Click Here! This is how they managed to copy it!
Thank you.
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
Daimaou said:
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
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Just replied, and if someone can tell me why I cannot UL files on the server it would help me
Cheers
You have to use username:xdaupload password:xda to be able to upload
ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]
I use to have a XDA 2 (well, SPV M1000) and (the important thing) a folder named "My XDA 2 must have". The software I use most, the software to backup, the software to keep not only to try. Like:
1. Sprite Backup
2. Visual IT Rough Guide to London (like A-Z map to central London + extras)
3. Splash ID
and not last
4. TomTom 5 .... and others that I miss already.
And THEN, here it is, I waited so long for it, (Exec) that I decided to switch from Orange, to O2, (Orange don't have this even now). Three days of "testing"...Well the device is great....Windows 5 isn't. (At least for me.)
My folder (My XDA 2 must have) is now "The software that doesn't work on WM5" ...None of the four named programs work...it takes ages to charge, it's slow, everything has changed...and how about that 'program' included "Clear Storage"??!!!
I thought it was something like remove programs, not a bloody HARD RESET!
Everything seems to say about Windows 5.....WHY FIX IT IF IT AIN'T BROKEN??!!!
BTW: Does anybody know a decent Wi-Fi Connections Manager that WORKS?? (Hitchhiker crashes my Exec, Retina Scanner wants to know what my socks size is when registering, Wi-Fi Companion Doesn't Install in WM5.........)
I am glad I didn't sell my SPV M1000 yet....but I want to....I love the Exec, but hate what it does...or rather what it doesn't!
..............helps us all !!!
You seem surprised that a major version upgrade (WM2003 to WM5) comes with occasional problems. Didn't we see the same when we changed from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95?
Later versions of desktop operating systems have some backwards compatibility built in, but with the limited resources of the PPC platform I guess they couldn't achieve everything.
We may not know what they are yet , but I'm sure WM5 has built-in features that drive the platform on another big leap and over time we'll take them for granted. I looked at my XDA2 last night (now two days-worth of dust gathering on it) and was reminded how fast it responded to commands, but it looked dated already compared with my shiny new Exec.
Don't forget, we're early adopters of WM5 and we're always going to have problems. When ROM upgrades are released and developers get new versions out for us, we'll wonder how we ever lived without it!
In case you haven't seen it yet, there's a thread running over at www.tekguru.co.uk listing the software that works perfectly on WM5. I found it useful when looking for replacements for my old WM2003 versions.
I have #2 and #4 working (for #4 you need TT 5.1 - d/l the update from their site)
Reinstall from fresh I reckon. And you are using activesync 4 not 3.8 still?
I agree with SiliconS.. I'm always wanting the very latest of everything (hardware and software) and to be honest, I'm surprised how good windows mobile 5 is!
There are many problems, like icons disappearing and speed etc..but they're not life threatening.
I only hope that the providers are going to keep up with the developers and release their specific patches..if not then I'll have to convert to the Jasjar rom :shock:
I love the MDA PRO even with it's problems.
Thanks for the help guys. I'll try these options as well.
BTW, anyone has any problems with the AvantGo software?
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#1 Try googling : Sprite Backup v3.2.0 build 2487.
Should be working with JJ.
Best of Luck. :wink:
mosesJJ said:
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#1 Try googling : Sprite Backup v3.2.0 build 2487.
Should be working with JJ.
Best of Luck. :wink:
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This is real? had you used and work with restores?
Thanks.
From the Sprite Backup developers website:
"Sprite Backup is only compatible with devices using Windows Mobile 2002 and 2003. Windows Mobile 2005 devices cannot use Sprite Backup. We will be releasing a new version that will be compatible with these devices in the near future. Please keep visiting this site for updates."
I did try the version you mentioned but no luck. I use a Exec not a JJ...coud that be it? Thanks anyway...and damn I need a backup program...[/quote]
Here I am after another whole day of reading forums, installing and uninstalling, hard resets, trial and error....and things like that.
As far as the XDA is concerned....I feel better about it now, installed SPB Pocket Plus (works a dream), SPB Finance (great 'cuz it syncs with Quicken), and most of all, swiched to "Corporate" mode...and man, it is FAST now !!!
As mentioned before, Sprite Backup doesn't work, AvantGo works but not as it should, SplashID....nope. I did try eWallet, which works ok on the desktop but not on the XDA.
It's all good fun though.
Grogo said:
swiched to "Corporate" mode...and man, it is FAST now !!!
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I'm thinking that I might go for a hard reset and choose Corp, but I don't know how to set up the GPRS details. How did you get GPRS working for Corporate Mode, or haven't you needed to?
I do find the settings for all these connections v.confusing. I just want it simple, like my laptop! One connection does all...
Now that you mentioned that, I wouldn't know if I need different setting yet, as I am still on Orange for the next couple of days until they port my number. Interesting to see if it works though.
I've tried today the GPRS, G3 connection and it worked without changing anything. (In Corporate mode)
Go fetch tigers
The pix >
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rebron/sets/153327/show/
The Download >
http://www.meer.net/~dougt/minimo_ce/MinimoCE_0.002.zip
Pax
LR
Opera for WM2005 is lightyears ahead.
Ward said:
Opera for WM2005 is lightyears ahead.
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Yeah I agree... and the Java version of Opera, Opera Mini.
Looks good, only it seems totally incompatible with the magician as it comes to the on-screen keyboard.
Regards, M
Opera is not yet available for WM2005 though (only smartphone 2003) - I was on their site yesterday, still no download links. You know better, please tell!
Also minimo will be free (will prob be 2 years before we see a decent version though!)
Nigel
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Opera is not yet available for WM2005 though (only smartphone 2003) - I was on their site yesterday, still no download links. You know better, please tell!
Also minimo will be free (will prob be 2 years before we see a decent version though!)
Nigel
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Take a look...
youll be happy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35595&highlight=
Ciao
veletron said:
Opera is not yet available for WM2005 though (only smartphone 2003) - I was on their site yesterday, still no download links. You know better, please tell!
Also minimo will be free (will prob be 2 years before we see a decent version though!)
Nigel
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Follow the link and visit xda-developers more often
I have Opera for 2005 for a couple of weeks or so... and it looks great.
Opera is fantastic. Stomps on PIE's head.
I'm also in love with Opera. beside some small bugs (like double space) it's the most reliable and compatible browser for mobile devices (from full AJAX support ans so on)
unless im mistaken, the link to minimo at the TOP of this page is a very old version (11 months old ver 0.02 feb 05 edition ) there is a much newer (1 month old ver 0.12 dec 05 edition)
aven't tested it yet, but 0.12 version (& older versions too) can be found here http://www.meer.net/~dougt/minimo_ce/
It's big & fat (almost full screen & > 10MB), looks good though. Crashed just before finishing my post. Supports on screen keyboard, very important on a magician & compatibility ??
Going to test it for a week or so.
Cheers, M
I liked minimo, but I found .12 simply too slow to really use
Opera is quite a bit faster than minimo, but still slower than PIE on WM5 and tends to do some strange things with frames (hopefully they'll get that ironed out for the real release)
I'm really looking forward to these programs maturing, as PIE could use some real help
Dang . . and there i was thinking i was adding to the community .
Sigh.
I was looking forward to getting rid of my n00b stabilisers
decebal said:
I'm also in love with Opera. beside some small bugs (like double space) it's the most reliable and compatible browser for mobile devices (from full AJAX support ans so on)
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Is there any solution for the double space problem?
Cheers,
Steve.
A month ago, i tried to install Minimo on MDA Pro, but encountered insufficient memory problem.
Has it been solved? (I saw the flickr images and it seems that it's running on Jam not Universal..).
I have tried a few browsers pie, opera, minimo etc and I find ftx Pbrowser best - small size not like those massive installs, fast and proper tabs. the only thing it does not do is download files but don't do that much any how. give it a go interested in your feedback
p.s. it also does'nt have the annoying keyboard pop up problem that pie does!
Far better than the recently released webby mobile (could not remember its name earlier ) and does go full screen and landscape mode and clear type for those that use it. U can tell I like this program
May we have some screenshot ? Thanks
Screen shots at this link
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=686
is this better then the Mini Mozilla browser? for some reason, it took FOREVER to load for me so i uninstalled it. it also took up a lot of space too.
Sorry hard to see how it took a lot of space its only 75kb in size. just place the file in program files on your storage card its a stand alone aplication it needs no install. mine loads in less than a second and favorites come up quicker than pie.
I think he meant the 10 MB mini Mozilla browser. I heard that this file (ftx Pbrowser) is only a shell around PIE. So the tabs etc are in the ftx Pbrowser file, but the engine is normal PIE.
Yep it is a shell for pie but I particularly like the tabs, makes it more like firefox. oh yes I see minmo took forever to load for me to - certainly not minimal!
Looks good, I'll try it!!
It workd really well, there is still need for improvment , but the tab browsing is well done and I would love to see it when its more devloped.
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It workd really well, there is still need for improvment , but the tab browsing is well done and I would love to see it when its more devloped.
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Has anyone tried PIEPlus lately? http://www.reensoft.com/PIEPlus/
This also has tabs, etc. I used it some eons ago but not recently. Doesn't say if it's WM5 capable.
I know ranchosteve there is room for improvement will try and contact developer see if he will reconsider finishing product off
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I know ranchosteve there is room for improvement will try and contact developer see if he will reconsider finishing product off
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Let us know if he replies, this is very promising browser! Needs finishing off but still useful.
I have a bed feeling the programmer has completely gone, the last version was over 2 years ago.
wgary said:
"ranchosteve" said:
It workd really well, there is still need for improvment , but the tab browsing is well done and I would love to see it when its more devloped.
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Has anyone tried PIEPlus lately? http://www.reensoft.com /PIEPlus/
This also has tabs, etc. I used it some eons ago but not recently. Doesn't say if it's WM5 capable.
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the latest version of pieplus v2 supports wm5 and works well on the wizard theres a 14day trial as well
anyone else tried this
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Yes I have tried PiePlus on my Jasjar. It certainly is WM5 compatible and they say so on their website.
However apart from adding tabs I don't see much in way of enhancing the capabilities of the PIE. My personal opinion is that it is not worth the money. But again this is just my personal opinion. Best is you try the 14 day trial period.
Regards
new pieplus is great, except something weird happened, my address bar went away and no way to get it back...so to go to a site, i have to add to favs, and im not in full screen mode either, anyone know a work around?
I like the program but when I went to fullscreen mode I can get it bacc to normal. Any Help?
Zaiaku said:
I like the program but when I went to fullscreen mode I can get it bacc to normal. Any Help?
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i think its the same problem im having...
ive been using mini opera as well as the built in pie....I think opera handles some sites better than pie...and uses less bandwidth
In case anyone cares... you can get the latest flash plugin (7.0) for ppc at macromedias web site
Ftx is certainly showing its age (I used to use it on some of my older devices). I have been using NetFront 3.3 (Trial) and it's been pretty good - not as fast as Opera Beta 2 but certainly faster than PIE.
I have a Verizon XV6700, but am quite new to PocketPC scene. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if there's an WM6 update out there that is compatible with my phone. I've found some of the WM6 roms, and know how to go about installing them...but I haven't found anyone saying they have upgraded an XV6700. Any help would be much appreciated.
This site is alittle encouraging...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/verizonwireless/default.mspx
seeing as how it shows my phone running Windows Mobile 6
Thanks,
Chris 3D
Have no message about APACHE'S wm6 come out, or any schedule. The MS pages just shows apache that runs WM5, not crossbow.
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That's because there are no WM6 ROMs for Apaches. The highest weve gotten is to WM5 AKU 3.5. With this there are some programs from WM6 included but that is about it.
There is some hope that now that the Mogul is out we might be able to get a WM6 working but I wouldn't hold your breathe.
but what if we got a copy of WM6 and tried to load it in the Apache? Would it work? Ive got an extra apache i have been using for testing.......i wonder if I........
There is no generic "copy of WM6" you can get that will work on the 6700. Any copy you find is for any of 100s of different hardware - putting it on your hardware may kill your hardware, or at best just not work.
Just wait, or if you want to help go to ppcgeeks dot com, where helmi_c is working with several folks to bring updated roms to the 6700 (thanks helmi!)
I think?
My apache just got upgraded to WM6 by a fellow xdaer. I am now in love with my pda all over again. My montra had been it is not a good phone and it is not a good pda. It works just not even as good as my xv6600 with ppc2003 on it. It doesn't hang up nearly as much with 6 vs. 5. It seams to work great, better than WM5. Finally I have voice activated dialing again after a hiatus of 4 years! I am actually making this post while looking for the source info that was used refrenced in xdadev.com. Happy hunting I'll try to find my way back here if i find the info.
I just got the xv6700 after having the treo 700wx.
Can some please give me a step by step on how to get wm6 on the device?
Do I download the apache thing directly to the phone and then do the boot mode?
Thanks
I would also like it if someone could post a step by step way on getting WM6 to the xv6700
WM6
for all apache owners who dont kno it has been developed by helmi_c
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11074
this is for you guys who dont kno
WM6 for verizon
check out ppc geeks apache upgrades...helmi_c...I've found the latest version works, but you have to be very spartan about your choices of apps. It gets weird if you select too many items and you really don't have any clues other than your apache consistently screws up, i.e., performance declination, programs not functioning as intended, anything that takes away from your machine doing what it is intended to do.
I've loaded the same rom 3 times and all three have behaved in thier owm unique way. I'll be more specific if anyone is interested.
Suffice to say the 3rd time was a charm. I only soft reset maybe twice a week. I do have to be aggressive in my memory management.
Have fun.
KW