I've found that my atom exec doesn't charge when the computer doesn't recognize the device. The problem is, while I'm surfing the net in the computer lab during breaks, my phone won't charge when connecting through usb. Of course, the admin had blocked everything from installing hardware/software, registry editing, to blocking every port except 80 and whatever port for MSN Messenger (I have to use proxy through port 80 as a workaround).
Is there a way to force my phone to charge? (If it denies to charge) Or is there a way to force the pc to supply power through the usb cable (If the pc doesn't, because it doesn't recognize the device).
And is there anyway to access my Atom Exec just like a flash drive that doesn't require any driver installation? (I think it is possible in Zinc with a few taps since it supports card reader mode natively.)
Thanks in advance.
The USB port has a direct power supply from the MB has nothing to do with drivers. Its a safe bet that the USB port has been disconnected on th inside. Sorry mate no software workarounds for this
I think you'll find that an atom will not charge on a windows PC without drivers.
Plug an atom in without activesync... it does bugger all. Install activesync and hey presto it begins charging.
Windows will not turn on the power on USB port until some driver is installed.
There is a kind of workaround for this - install software such as WM5torage or CardExport to make PocketPC act as "generic USB disk device". If USB flash disk usage is allowed, your atom will connect as disk and charge without activesync.
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Windows will not turn on the power on USB port until some driver is installed.
There is a kind of workaround for this - install software such as WM5torage or CardExport to make PocketPC act as "generic USB disk device". If USB flash disk usage is allowed, your atom will connect as disk and charge without activesync.
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OMG. WM5torage is what I was looking for. Thank you so much.
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I wonder if there's any software to operate PocketPC as USB Stick available (like for Palm Tungsten T5 - Drive Mode)? So basically I would like to use PocketPC drives just as a USB Stick (without Activesync of course)
Thanks,
Georg
this cannot be done in software.
let me rehash this topic
Can anyone here kindly explain me why it aint possible to use PPC as USB MassStorageDevice? I know you need USB Host Controller chip to handle that stuff in hardware. Why cant we emulate its function in software? In the end its only sending signals to the pc?
How does the device upgrade process work then? you also have to transfer data to ppc rom here.
I know that it wont be easy to give a simple explanation, could anyone try it anyway?
thank you for your help!
regards,
Quappo
i think it would be possible to do in software
if it cant then it's because that it's hardcoded in the pda that when it interduce itself to the pc as a plug'n'play device it does so as a pda
if that cant be changed then you cant do it
I've found some interesting SW tools:
here: http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/#compatibility
and here : http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/download.html
You mast pay for the first one :?
but the second (if you like) it's free !
Have a look !!
Carlo said:
I've found some interesting SW tools:
here: ...
and here : http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/download.html
... the second (if you like) it's free !
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You were misleaded. The named tool can be used on PDAs having USB host functionality to connect other hard drives. It won't let your PDA be recognized as a USB stick.
Yes - in general case you can do it.
It is possible to write software which allow to represent PPC with USB end-point hardware as USB Mass Storage device.
Question is - how?
It seems device will need to supply correct descriptors at USB enumeration process and device will have to correctly process appropriate comands from host device (PC or something else)
again - how?
It seems someone will need to write low level software to manage USB endpoint hardware in PPC. it may look like kernel mode driver.
What to need? - doc for USB endpoint device and ability to write driver to manage this hardware.
It isn't difficult - but every PPC will need own device driver.
Or if the USB dev has some interface to supply descriptors and process commands from host (internal - inside system, or app level) - it can be done at some level of abstraction.
Resume
- it is possible
- need to know details about device and USB interface in this PPC.
ryhor - soft stick export does it perfectly. Either use that, or reverse engineer it...
Very useful for non activesynced pcs: keep a copy of activesync install on your SD card, use softstick, install activesync from PPC "usb drive", then switch over to activesync and sync away.
V
vijay555 said:
ryhor - soft stick export does it perfectly. Either use that, or reverse engineer it...
Very useful for non activesynced pcs: keep a copy of activesync install on your SD card, use softstick, install activesync from PPC "usb drive", then switch over to activesync and sync away.
V
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This seems very interesting. Can you tell me how the PPC shows on the Windows PC desktop? It has mostly two drives then, a possible SD card included.
Can you change the drive letter via local disk management?
Happen to know if it would work on Jasjar?
Huib
I've no idea how it works on WM5, you'll have to check their site: either way, I'm sure they're working on it.
How it works: you get a little icon in your tray (on Today screen). From there you can choose either to activesync or USB Drive when you connect your usb lead. You can choose which drive to use as a usb drive, ie storage or storage card. Only one at a time though.
Then, stick in your usb lead, and after a few seconds of recognising new hardware, it'll recognise the phone as a standard USB drive, ie a normal drive. I believe the drive letter can be changed in drive management.
I don't think it needs any drivers on >WinXP.
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I've no idea how it works on WM5, you'll have to check their site: either way, I'm sure they're working on it.
How it works: you get a little icon in your tray (on Today screen). From there you can choose either to activesync or USB Drive when you connect your usb lead. You can choose which drive to use as a usb drive, ie storage or storage card. Only one at a time though.
Then, stick in your usb lead, and after a few seconds of recognising new hardware, it'll recognise the phone as a standard USB drive, ie a normal drive. I believe the drive letter can be changed in drive management.
I don't think it needs any drivers on >WinXP.
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Thanks, I will defenitely buy this stuff when they make a Universal Version.
Huib
if it works on wm2005 then it works on universal too
Ever since I turned off "Accept all incoming beams" to conserve battery power, and others who have upgraded to the new O2 Exec ROM v1.13.188 (which does this automatically), there seems to be a problem with sync'ing the Universal with the PC via USB with an error message "Windows cannot recognize the device... etc."
A remedy that I found:
1) run the "Wireless Modem" application in Universal (make sure your phone is turned on)
2) select "IR"
3) start and stop the modem
This apparently refreshes the USB, and allows the PC to recognize the Universal again.
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heidy said:
Ever since I turned off "Accept all incoming beams" to conserve battery power, and others who have upgraded to the new O2 Exec ROM v1.13.188 (which does this automatically), there seems to be a problem with sync'ing the Universal with the PC via USB with an error message "Windows cannot recognize the device... etc."
A remedy that I found:
1) run the "Wireless Modem" application in Universal (make sure your phone is turned on)
2) select "IR"
3) start and stop the modem
This apparently refreshes the USB, and allows the PC to recognize the Universal again.
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I have the same problem.
It seems, this problem appears mostly on laptops, not on PCs?
I tried to uninstall\install, repair with all ActiveSync data removal or leaving it - No result.
Also, tried to replace the cable (which is ok, im sure with the one from the camera) - No result.
Temporary and the only way out: do Off\On with qtek9000 on cable connect.
DOES ANY BODY KNOW, HOW TO FIX THIS BUG?? Any Ideas?
Qtek9000 with laptop Toshiba Satellite Pro \ Win XP SP2
EDIT: And, of course, the second workaround - to keep the "Accept all incoming beams" swith ON
are you plugging in via a usb hub? i get this sometimes if i plug in my Exec via a usb port on my monitor. if i plug in directly via the front or back of my pc it generally is ok.
one thing i try is when its plugged in and it gives you that message, turn off the device. it should still be charging. now leave it 10-20 seconds and turn the device on. it then normally "kicks in" for me.
i also find stopping Activesync on the Exec then plugging in the device can get it to work.
theres definately a problem somewhere...
btw i havn't loaded the new rom
i get the problem when I plug in to a hub also, but rarely directly.
if i get it by direct connect, a reset normally rectifies. sometimes i also have reset the pc as well as the ppc
I've bought today a Qtek S200.
IPL/SPL: 2.09.0000
GSM: 2.07.20
OS: 2.9.7.28
The first I did was a Hard Reset to the Qtek S200 and then...
Because of the problems with some application and antivirus I did a complete format to my computer. I just installed WinXP PRO SP2, all the updates from Microsoft Update, .Net Framework 3, Outlook 2002 and ActiveSync 4.1 (both came in the CD from Qtek). (I have also disabled Windows Firewall).
Then I think, I've done all the steps right (I think):
1) I connected the USB cable to de PC
2) I tried to plug the USB cable to the Qtek S200 when te PPC was OFF and nothing happened. Then with the Qtek S200 ON (in today's screen) I plug the other side of the USB cable and ActiveSync does not recognize my S200.
I dunno what to do to make ActiveSync syncronize with my Qtek S200, could you please help me???? I've been trying to syncronize for more then 6 hours (doing all the stuff...)
THNX,
Annita
Try this:
remove your activesync (de-install the software)
reboot your pc
turn on your qtek without the usb cable attached
plugin your qtek on the usb cable.
Does you pc find the device ?? (ding dong sound)
yes ? good, your pc finds it.
take out the usb again
install activesync 4.2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/activesync42.mspx
try again, and see if it works.
My PC does nothing when I connect the S200...
Annita
If the USB cable connection does not work, it is possible to update ROM via Bluetooth ActiveSync syncronization????
THNX,
Annita
Annita said:
If the USB cable connection does not work, it is possible to update ROM via Bluetooth ActiveSync syncronization????
THNX,
Annita
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It might work, however I would first look into why you usb doesn't work
when you plugin the usb cable, do you see the phone charge ? (led ontop change to orange) you might have a bad cable or you pc has a problem with the usb port (have your tried another usb port ? or removing all usb devices and only using the phone cable ?)
Yes to all.
When I connect the USB cable, the Qtek begins to charge the battery, and the orange led flicks.
I have tried on my PC and on my Laptop and didn't work in any of both.
I have tried with only he USB phone cable and did not work either.
Anyone has tried to update ROM via Bluetooth???
THNX,
Annita
Annita, make sure you have DHCP turned on on your PC. The virtual USB NIC should come up as 169.254.2.2, I believe. I was never able to get it to work without using DHCP on the PC side.
What is the virtual USB NIC????
Annita
When you plug in the USB cable, the PC creates a "fake" network adapter for the PPC and adds that to your list of network connections.
Just make sure DHCP service is started. Right-click My Computer -> Manage -> Services and Applications -> Services -> DHCP Client.
OK, the service was and is ON.
The thing is that I can syncronize via Bluetooth, but not with the USB cable (and I have the original cable and another mini-USB cable).
Annita
Bluetooth Activesync Sycronization will not work b'coz while upgrading, the phone resets itself, N it powers on in the upgrade process therefore, bluetooth of the phone will not be available then.
So, I dont its possible 2upgrade via bluetooth Activesync.
OK, thnx.
Annita
anita and the usb
anita, go to start setting control pannel, go to phones and modems and see the modems are installed there. windows (sh***t) store all the garbadge possible. can be that it identfy usb device like usb modem and put it on com 1 not that active sync works auto on com1. so check connection settings on activesync. + which use port you use? fron pannel or the rear of the PC?
is that a laptop if yes what model.
i'll try to help as much as i can
xman
ok, i have the same problem as you do, or at least a similar. i cant get my sync to work...
active sync 4.2
active sync says "critical communication error, try restarting your device", the active sync troubleshoot tells me that i dont have a ip adress (the link to microsoft does not work), although i have a network connection that my pc created (169.254.2.2). the active sync even appears in green.
my firewall and the win firewall does not interfere with this. switching off the firewalls does not improve this at all.
does anyone know a solution to this? thanks
I'll try what xmanmaster says, but I'm not at home until sunday...
Thnx,
Annita
Did this problem ever get resolved? I have the same issues, tried a wizard and a hermes. Not detected as a usb device, the charging light comes on. Both phones work on another PC. I have tried uninstalling activesync and rebooting phone/PC in every order I can think of.
UPNP (Universal Plug 'n Play) service is required
Hi all,
please make sure that the UPNP service is running on the desktop.
It's required for device detection as well as synchronisation with the WCE device.
A quite detailed description of all potential problems with ActiveSync can be found at Chris De Herrera's website.
BR,
N.a.D.
Hi - ever since I used Internet Sharing the other day every time i plug my HD into my computer Active Sync (AS) doesn't recognize it.
When i plug in the phone in I get the touch flo menu and it asks if i want to use AS but nothing happens when i choose this - I've even reinstalled AS and XP has recognised the phone but not AS- anyone else had this problem?
Had this a few times with my other PDAs. In most cases it couldn't get a DHCP address from activesync.
Try this: while its connected, locate your device in Windows device manager (should be "Windows Mobile-base Device ...") and delete it. This does not affect partnerships. Disconnect and reconnect it, and Windows should recognize a new device with proper connection.
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Had this a few times with my other PDAs. In most cases it couldn't get a DHCP address from activesync.
Try this: while its connected, locate your device in Windows device manager (should be "Windows Mobile-base Device ...") and delete it. This does not affect partnerships. Disconnect and reconnect it, and Windows should recognize a new device with proper connection.
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Thanks for the advice however I can't find a Windows device in the Device Manager - i think you are on the right lines though - Windows is simply not recognising the device...
Would it perhaps be USB Mass Storage device?
Windows should recognize your phone, this is independent of activesync. If this does not work, activesync has no chance to connect to, and the reason must be somewhere else.
Check your USB ports. BTW you're not using a hub are you? If yes you should connect it directly to the PC. Check cables, and/or try another USB-device if you have one.
When you connect, you should be asked how the phone should represent to the pc, with options as activesync, harddisk, modem. Select activesync here. If you're not asked, check device settings in Start-settings-connections-usb2pc.
Have you tried blanking out the "enable advance network funcitonality" in USB to PC setting?
And - you are using the HTC supplied USB lead?
bog standard mini-USB cables don't cut it
found it quite trouble for me, as my T-MOBILE wizard 200 suddenly stop syncing with my PC.
even if it can't sync with PC active sync, but the phone still able to charge via USB port, anyone experience this before?
Some recommended action that i've run so far:
1. uninstall & re-install microsoft activesync 4.5
2. change usb port
3. change with different PC with activesync 4.5
4. hard reset my device
5. Change 3 different usb cable
6. etc
after doing all the thing, but the problem still there, only able to charge via USB port but can't sync
hope anyone could give me the answer is that hardware failure?.
...
I've had the same issue over and over with my Wiz110...
I don't know why this happens, but it seems to be connected with the ROM-update (USB-connection boot).
My trick was to initiate a RUU on Windows 7 (which normally ends in a stall Bootscreen!) and soft-reboot. After this the XP-driven Machine likely recognized the Wiz as what it is.
Please don't refer on this if you bricked your Wiz, but this was my solution...