Phone App - numeric keypad & contacts - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

My Tytn was replaced under insurance after loss.
When in the phone app, pressing numeric keys used to enter the number but also showed matching contacts containing the sequence of alpha characters from the keys pressed.
The firmware in the new phone is different, and the phone app doesn't support this feature any more. Typing numeric keys simply enters the number. The only way to find a contact is to enter the contact list and select manually.
The new ROM is 2.07.161.1 with WM5.0 5.1.461 (Build 15671.3.3.0).
Can anyone cast any light on how to re-enable the alpha search feature in the phone app?
Thanks in anticipation!

Sounds like you're referring to PhonePad app?
There are CAB's for the PhonePad app on the XDA FTP server - your best bet is to do some serious searching as there have been issues reported using PhonePad with other 3rd party software.
You can download the English only version of PhonePad from >HERE<, but I'd suggest some light reading of the results of a search for "PhonePad" in the Hermes forum before you run off and install wildly
HTH,
Mark.

I think you miss smart dialing function. However this should be already implemented in your ROM. Search for smart dialer. The Phone pad application suggested above is T9 based input method, not a dialer.

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use the keyboard for smart dialler

a great thing to do with the universal in my opinion is that when your in the phone layout, ou can use the keyboard keys a=z to get our contact, much like you can with contacts.
Through Smart-Dialler?
I've forgot how to turn it off; any ideas?
I really don't know if it is possible to use the hardware keyboard with the generic smart dialer. However as an alternative there is a program by the name of Imaginet FingerClix. This is also a smart dialer with added functionality to send SMS as well. This program can be configured to use the hardware keyboard to search ad dial contacts.
A great program and recommended
Regards

IntelliPad (SIP Phone Pad) to another device with HW numeric keyboard.

Hello, I have had Wizard for a long time. Some time ago I purchased new O2 XDA Stealth phone (with slide numeric keyboard). There is the possibility to use the numeric keyboard for writing i.e. SMS's quickly when selected SIP eZiText. But there is a bug in eZiText and the support is terrible. So I decided to try to install IntelliPad from HTC to this device. After soft-reset it works normally (it means tapping by fingers to the screen). But do you thing that there is any possibility to make this to work with my hardware keyboard together as well? Somewhere has to be some buttons mapping, but I am not an advanced programmer and do not where.
Or is there any other SIP which could be usable with O2 XDA Stealth instead of eZiText?
kmozis said:
Hello, I have had Wizard for a long time. Some time ago I purchased new O2 XDA Stealth phone (with slide numeric keyboard). There is the possibility to use the numeric keyboard for writing i.e. SMS's quickly when selected SIP eZiText. But there is a bug in eZiText and the support is terrible. So I decided to try to install IntelliPad from HTC to this device. After soft-reset it works normally (it means tapping by fingers to the screen). But do you thing that there is any possibility to make this to work with my hardware keyboard together as well? Somewhere has to be some buttons mapping, but I am not an advanced programmer and do not where.
Or is there any other SIP which could be usable with O2 XDA Stealth instead of eZiText?
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Please let me know also, I'm having the same issue. Could you let me know where I can find Intellipad from HTC ? Any specific link ?
Thanks
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1062820&postcount=2
but note that this is only software SIP, that will be shown on the screen and does not cooperate with the hardware keyboard :-(

Fake SIP

FakeSIP
This SIP is placeholder, so you don't see keyboard toggle if you select it as current input method.
This is useful if you use keys, but keyboard autoshow irritate you.
Install cab and select "Fake SIP" in menu.
When you need to use real keyboard, you can switch it, of course.
thanks m8.
Search xda-developers for "NullKB". Someone beat you to it by a few years.
On another note, I find NullKB to be indispensable in combination with PQzII. So when I slide out the keyboard the device switches to NullKB and prevents the soft kb from popping up. And when I slide back to portrait mode the SIP changes back to the soft KB.
I don't see PQzII talked about much anymore. It's hard to describe all its functionality, but in general it handle all sorts of keybinding and event-based behaviours.
fluxist
Hey, guys!
I've tried to use NullKb, but got no stability in daily usage. Sometimes i can't select it - whatever i want to select, the build-in keyboard is choosen. I've thought that it NullKb's fault and I've made my own implementation [ didn't saw your Fake SIP, GreateVK, sorry ]
But even with it, sometimes I can't open the SIP which I want to use. Does anybody encountered sucha problems? And what the technical "background" of it?
Another trouble is that I can't set height of SIP to zero - it have the same height as every other SIP in system. I've even excluded SIP_DOCKED flag from IMINFO.fdwFlags, but it was a useless step. What is the right way to setup height of SIP control?
My little SIP stub [source code + binary] is attached

Where does this keyboard come from?

I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.
Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.
Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.
Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?
Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?
ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications
Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
kerrance76 said:
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
muzikfreakah said:
On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here
muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello
muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.
Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?
any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this
I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it
it also shows up at times when you are entering a password
Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...

SIP doesn't pop up Keyboard after a few days.

I have a persistent reoccurring problem with the software keyboards.
After a soft reboot, everything works fine for the first two or three days. From then on, the SIP icon will not present a keyboard. This is true regardless of which default keyboard has been used. This suggests the fault is not with any particular keyboard.
I use the following keyboards:
- HTC Full keyboard.
- Swype.
- TouchPal.
- Resco Keyboard.
When this problem occurs, all other functions of the phone continue to work perfectly (albeit I can't input any data). Thus, my only recourse is to perform a soft reboot - which solves the problem for a few days.
I have a Telstra HD2 with native ROM. I use the native Sense UI. I have a moderate amount of popular third party apps installed.
Question:
1) Does anyone else have this problem?
2) Is there any permanent remedy for this problem?
3) If not, is there another temporary fix other than soft reboot (ie: changing a setting in the Registery - but without needing use of the keyboard. This could be running a *.REG file to restore some value).
4) What could possibly be causing the SIP to be non-functional?
... any help or direction would be appreciated.
I believe I found the fault.
Resco Keyboard Pro, version 5, with Fitaly Skin. The skin was downloaded from Resco's website. It "seems" to be fine, but was found the cause an eventual disfunctioning of the SIP after a few days on two different smart phones: HTC TPro2 and HTC HD2. I suspect there is a memory leak on some type of registers (stack). Only after continual use of that keyboard does the SIP eventually fail to show the keyboard anymore. This does not happen with my other keyboards.
Remedy: don't use Resco Keyboard with at least the Fitaly skin.
Case closed.
Skeleton said:
I believe I found the fault.
Resco Keyboard Pro, version 5, with Fitaly Skin. The skin was downloaded from Resco's website. It "seems" to be fine, but was found the cause an eventual disfunctioning of the SIP after a few days on two different smart phones: HTC TPro2 and HTC HD2. I suspect there is a memory leak on some type of registers (stack). Only after continual use of that keyboard does the SIP eventually fail to show the keyboard anymore. This does not happen with my other keyboards.
Remedy: don't use Resco Keyboard with at least the Fitaly skin.
Case closed.
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What is the "SIP Icon" that you refer to in your original post? In the European Version of HD2 the SIP function is disabled and we need to intall external programmes for SIP/VOIP. Is your SIP original function (which is an integral part of WM) enabled?
paulmor said:
What is the "SIP Icon" that you refer to in your original post? In the European Version of HD2 the SIP function is disabled and we need to intall external programmes for SIP/VOIP. Is your SIP original function (which is an integral part of WM) enabled?
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SIP/VOIP is different is for phone calls.
SIP/Keyboard is "software input program"; SIP is the little keyboard icon that allows you to open the keyboard, or select a different keyboard.

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