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Hello!
I would greatly appreciate it if you could suggest any good multi - IM software for the universal (Yahoo, MSN, ICQ mainly)
agile messenger was good, but it has a lot of stability issues on the universal. So could you suggest something other than agile?
Thanks,
San
Hmm I'd be interested also in what people are using, at the moment I only have PocketMSN installed.
MSN via IRC
Hi all,
Well I own an MDA Pro (HTC Universal) so it doesn't come with MSN Messenger installed. I am waiting for the new Rom though which does include it. In the meantime I'm using an IRC client in combination with Bitlbee to get on the MSN network. It works like a charm. If you don't know what Bitlbee is you can go here (www.bitlbee.org) to read all about it and to try it out. Basically it's just a IRC Bot/Script that you can run on your computer and it forms a gateway to different IM networks like MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, AIM etc... You can also use the public servers if you don't want to install it on your own pc. Ow and it's free also.
Agile Messenger for Windows Mobile is still free as far as I know, and supports MSN, Yahoo!, AOL, Jabber and ICQ.
I'm using it almost daily. Works quite well, actually.
It has crashed on me at times, but only after extensive chatting.
Omnichaos: Does the MDA Pro not come with MSN? The i-mates do, and it's a free download from Microsoft's site too. The problem with using IRC scripts and bots is that not one bit of it is encrypted, so you're opening up your data to some script-kiddie with lots of time on his hands (granted, I haven't read about your solution, so I don't know the details)
Even I use Agile messenger..it works fine also in Full VGA Mode :lol:
What about any alternatives for just an MSN? I'm not using any other communicators so don't need the all-in-one ones.
I'm quite happy with Pocket MSN, it's just annoying me that the chat window is so small and hard to read and there is a huge unused space underneath.
rottie said:
What about any alternatives for just an MSN? I'm not using any other communicators so don't need the all-in-one ones.
I'm quite happy with Pocket MSN, it's just annoying me that the chat window is so small and hard to read and there is a huge unused space underneath.
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Click on your SIP to display it, and then hide it again to clear the huge unused space.
snorbaard said:
Agile Messenger for Windows Mobile is still free as far as I know, and supports MSN, Yahoo!, AOL, Jabber and ICQ.
It has crashed on me at times, but only after extensive chatting.
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Also my Agile crashes now and then my Jasjar. Indeed you need extensive chatting first. It has never crashed just in stand bye mode.
Agile however recovers very well after being out of reach of the network, which, in my case, cannot be said about MSN.
And the MSN new-user-on-line warning can officially not be switched off. Very irritating.
Anyone tried IM+?
Huib
hey, Thanks!!!
@ snorbaard
No the MDA Pro does not come with MSN Messenger at least not yet (It's included in the next Rom update). I don't know why they haven't included it in the first place cause I now that the Imate's, O2's & Qtek's do.
You are right about MSN being a free download but you have to active your MSN account first for you to be able to use Pocket MSN and that costs 15 euro's.
But as I said it doesn't matter for me that much cause I'm using IRC to get on the MSN network.
You're probably right about IRC not being encrypted but you can run it on your own computer which does increase security alot than if you were to use the public servers. Besides I don't really care that much. It's not like I'm giving away passwords or creditcard numbers on MSN anyway.
Agile Messenger - NEW WM 5.0 version
We will be releasing a new version of Agile Messenger for WM5.0 both PPC and Smartphone versions, that is a complete re-write from the ground up. The BETA will be available in the next week or so, and will be posted publicly on this forum for all of the members to download.
Your feedback is appreciated, and we are quite confident that you will be happy with the new Agile Messnger for WM5.0.
Thanks for your continued support.
BR
Seth
Agilemobile.com Ltd.
Sweet!!!
Can't wait to try it out.
New Agile? Great. Used it on my Nokia 9500. Very nice and stable.
eagerly waiting for a testdrive.
Huib
IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.
yo i tried agile on my mda pro, but it wouldnt work,
touchscreen doesnt work with it,and i could only select msn not logon to it
to bad, i just have to wait voor that t-mobile update i guess
P'z
Beta
The new version should support:
Push To Talk
Image Transfer
Emoticons
Group Management
Typing Notification
Support for AOL, MSN, ICQ, Yahoo, and Google Talk
Amongst a number of other new features, and an entirely new interface.
There have ben a number of internal builds over the past few months, and we expect to be releasing a Beta very shortly.
For those of you that are requesting early Beta's it is simply not possible as we intend to provide it to the entire community as soon as our internal devlopment team and quality controll is satisfied that it is ready for public release; which we expect to be in the next few weeks.
BR
Seth
Agilemobile.com Ltd.
universaldoc said:
IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.
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I also use IM+. I have since i first got my old Nokia 7650 many moons ago.
I use an XDA EXEC at the moment and the built in MSN Messenger is really bad it claims i am connected when i am not and my gprs monitor reported over 400k usage in around 3 hours without any use.
With IM+ i use around 23K when connecting then a very small amount each time i chat.
AFAIK IM+ also connects directly to the services. I know some other third party ones connect through their own servers.
Dingo said:
universaldoc said:
IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.
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I also use IM+. I have since i first got my old Nokia 7650 many moons ago.
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Dingo, that is good news. There is competition. I would love you to compare both Agile and IM+ as soon as the new, rewritten, Agile appears.
I use Agile at the moment. Apart from sometimes hanging my Jasjar, it does the job well. Especially REconnecting after being in the subway is very imporant for me. MSN just does not and Agile reconnects quickly.
MB consumtion of MSN is unacceptable. Very strange that MS delievered a product like that.
Huib
Hi guys
I have been using agile oin my T;mobile exec. It is very stable and i also find it recovers well on disconnects between cell sites. I regularly use it on express train journeys in the uk. But for these i tend to turn of UMTS and force gsm only. this really helps on speeding up agile reconnecting when the unoiversal is moving fast. The other big thing on agile is it costs less than 305 of the bw that MS MSN client uses. So on samll bundles it will save far more in bw costs than any licence feee will cost. If you are having problems on the t-mobile exec, then you are probably doing something wrong, or you have some other trird party sw installed that is messing thinbgs up. Personally i am really pleased that tmob did not install msn otherwise i would not have discovered agile. Can t wait till the new version comes out.
Keepup the good work at the Agile dev team.
Regards
Charlie
MSN Mobile is ... really bad IMHO.
Im also using IM+ as its the most stable for me. It also support jabber but it really miss some basic features.
Are they any other good jabber clients?
Agile was also not really working out for me, lets see how it behave on an new version.
If anybody know any other clients plz post them. Im also really ready to pay for them - 100EURO for a really ok client is no problem. Sources would be even better so i could fix the rest myself.
If somebody could provide sources, i would even sign an NDA or something and pay more.
Would love if somebody contact me
Daniel
is it normal i have got no MSN pre-installed on my universal
cheers,, cudo
If you mean MSN messenger, it is called "Pocket MSN" and the icon is a butterfly. From within that you then select MSN messenger. I had a similar problem when I got mine, not being able to find it. I must say I don't like it like this.
nope i tried to localize it everywhere but i just dont have it installed.
i am using mda pro. even if i try to serch within help there is nothing about pocket msn, msn and so on...why is that maybe i just need to upgrade to the lates ROM ?
mine never came with it either mate had to use agile msng in the end,
im also running a tmob uk mda pro
mine never came with it either mate had to use agile msng in the end,
im also running a tmob uk mda pro
You all need to upgrade your ROMS to the latest version to get MSN Messenger!
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_pro.html
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brill thanks
thanks mate just downloading that,
how do you find ext rom stable and is it a pain in the ass to do
also does it free much up and increase speeds
cheers
Installation was pretty straight forward. I wrote my first thoughts here and so far tey havent changed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54223&sid=9430effb43d1986994bed07cca585c50
Have you got yours sorted now?
For those interested, some operators do not ship their PDA-phones with MSN messenger so as not to compete with their own instant messenging solutions / SMS offers.
Anyone got the same problem ? I still use the old MSN Messenger of WM2003 SE, original one from the Magician.
It does not work anymore.
I tried MSN 4.7.3 in my PC and it does not work either. I upgraded to the latest release and it works !
I think Microsoft is now blocking the old MSN messenger
Any ideas?
It still works for me, then maybe it was just a short interruption of service.
Strange, it still does not work for me. It happened about 5 hours ago and still does not work until now.
Internet connection is working fine, I use GPRS. Browsing is fine.
Like I said, I have this problem also in the PC. But when I updated the MSN Messenger to the latest release (Windows Live Messenger), it is working fine.
However, I dont know how to update my Magician MSN Messenger
yeah it doesnt work sometimes, i dont use it alot.
if you wana use messenger get agile or IM+ they support multiple messengers
Is Agile freeware ? This is confusing because in some forums people put it as freeware. But when I check the website, I have to pay about $19 USD.
I tried it once (I think I got it bundled with T-Mobile NL), and I dont like it because of intermittent hung up.
Maybe there is a newer version, I dont know.
What is your experience with Agile ?
I hate Agile for the only reason that when a suggestive input text has been selected, it sends the message which may rather be incomplete.. It should be freely available though.
I like agile - think its a really good wee programme, never had a problem with predictive - but I have it turned off.
It is free if you get the ppc version - some mobile versions are charged but I downloaded and used the ppc one and not a penny was paid.
However I did pay for a years service on my 6600 then 2 months in got the hermes so I guess my lack of use of my paid version more than makes up for getting the hermes version for free.
yeah it says its paid for but when you install it it doesnt say trial only or anything
I like Agile, never had any problems. It's a really good program and best of all... it's totally free.
gogol said:
Anyone got the same problem ? I still use the old MSN Messenger of WM2003 SE, original one from the Magician.
It does not work anymore.
I tried MSN 4.7.3 in my PC and it does not work either. I upgraded to the latest release and it works !
I think Microsoft is now blocking the old MSN messenger
Any ideas?
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Have you installed or recently updated a firewall/antivirus application like Norton software? This could be the problem with the PC version as I've found that sometimes updates block files such as the exe file for MSN; this could explain why the old messenger didn't work and the new one does, as the exe files are different. No idea with the ppc tho :/
Good morning Chaps and Chappesses.
I hope everyone is well and happy. I am really enjoying using my Ameo but I cannot remember how to re-enable pocket MSN which t-moblie appear to have removed from my device.
I had this same problem on an older PPC I had but I cannot remember what I did to resolve this!
I had pocket MSN setup on my MDA pro and #I found it extremely usefull for checking mail and msn messenger.
Can anyone advise me on getting this back on my device?
Mny thanks!!
http://www.thepoorhouse.org.uk/put_msn_messenger_back_on_your_windows_mobile_5_gadgetry
yarod_g14 said:
Good morning Chaps and Chappesses.
I hope everyone is well and happy. I am really enjoying using my Ameo but I cannot remember how to re-enable pocket MSN which t-moblie appear to have removed from my device.
I had this same problem on an older PPC I had but I cannot remember what I did to resolve this!
I had pocket MSN setup on my MDA pro and #I found it extremely usefull for checking mail and msn messenger.
Can anyone advise me on getting this back on my device?
Mny thanks!!
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if lots of you are interested, i can post a windows message live up here, it's the next generation of pocket MSN.
I'm interested
WOWZERS!!!
PLEASE!!!
I would love a copy of the live messenger!
If you could post it before someone decides its a bad idea and blocks out posts
I am rather annoyed that I cannot have my hotmail messages delivered into my inbox like I did on my MDA pro.
That saved time and effort logging into hotmail through opera.
I guess I will not be installing another T-mobile Rom on this device but I had better find a copy of the HTC advantage Rom istead for TOMTOM and pocket MSN.
I await the goodness of :Live messenger !!
thanks!
Does the Live messenger keep your MSN contacts isolated, or does it still import all your phone contacts and add them as contacts (like it did when i once installed it on universal, prompting my immediate uninstall)
Also, does it suffer from the same problem with the winxp live messenger where some of the more recent contacts you add never appear online, even though they are online ?
Interested!!
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if lots of you are interested, i can post a windows message live up here, it's the next generation of pocket MSN.
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Yes please mate.
Ooops! My bad. Just saw the dedicated thread for it. Thanks Wu.
Hi guys/dolls,
My 1st post of hopefully many .......Got myself upgraded(?) from a FSC Loox T830 to an Orange SPV M3100 (mainly for the larger screen & keyboard) but note that there is no MSN Messenger installed!?! ... How can I get this or Pocket MSN installed? Also, anyone had luck on using 'push email' on this device through the Wlan connection?
MSN messenger wasnt included by Orange deliberatly i think, dont worry it is available on many different ROMs.
Push email works through activesync (on the device) you need to setup an exchange account somewhere and email sent to that account is pushed to the device if you are synced through GPRS/HSDPA Wifi or even through the USB lead on your pc. Denials service is quite good, and a simple $10 donation is all he requires for it. You will find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305612
There's also a CAB floating around for Windows Live Mobile... sorry I don't have a link but search for it and you'll find it.
I prefer using that over the old MSN Messenger AND you get free push email with hotmail - awesome!
Please use forum search.
I posted on this very topic a couple of weeks ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307477
If you are wanting Pocket MSN then use the thread above.
Orange remove this from their device as it goes against T&C's but there is a CAB attached to the above thread that gets it working.
If you use Live messenger then it has an in built expiry that means you have to re-install it every now and then. It's still in BETA stage.
I would recommend using Pocket MSN as it is working fine error free for me and my M3100 using friend.
Thanks guys.....downloaded and installed the 'floating' CAB, Pocket MSN back and works a dream! Boo Orange!