My exchange server is sending me the emails over umts as soon as they arrive but they are auto saved on my device memory.
How can I change it that it will be saved diretly on my storage card?
I would like to think that there is a way to do it automaticaly...
Thanks,
Eldi
This can be done using some of the memory tools programs- SK Tools, Memmaid etc. I think only attachments can be saved to the card, ratehr than the whole email folder.
However, I wouldn't recommend saving any system files to an external card- this goes for Email, PIE Cache, DLL's etc, as there is a stong likelihood that you will suffer corruptions or device lockups, due to the relatively slow speed of external cards, and the delay in initialisation when starting up.
You may try this one:
Change the location of email and attachments
When reading and sending email in Pocket Outlook, emails and their attachments are saved in the device's internal storage by default. You can change this location to, for example, your Storage Card:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MAPI\PropertyPath = "\Storage Card\Mail" (REG_SZ string, no quotes) HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MAPI\AttachPath = "\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments" (REG_SZ string, no quotes)
To return to the original location:
Just simply delete these Registry settings (since neither is included by default).
It is copy/paste from here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other
under options in the account settings window you can easily select this...
no need to use a registry editor...
cs_e2 said:
under options in the account settings window you can easily select this...
no need to use a registry editor...
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This option is available only for attachments and not for the txt mail.
Lazso said:
You may try this one:
Change the location of email and attachments
When reading and sending email in Pocket Outlook, emails and their attachments are saved in the device's internal storage by default. You can change this location to, for example, your Storage Card:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MAPI\PropertyPath = "\Storage Card\Mail" (REG_SZ string, no quotes) HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MAPI\AttachPath = "\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments" (REG_SZ string, no quotes)
To return to the original location:
Just simply delete these Registry settings (since neither is included by default).
It is copy/paste from here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other
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Thanks, that loos like it should work... but... how do I reach the registry?
Changing the path seems to be working for all new emails coming in, but how do you move the old emails and their attachments from the internal memory to the SD-Card in order to release the data memory? Where do I find this dataload? I desperately need an answer to this question as all the emails (and the same goes for calendar entries and contacts) are taking way too much memory space almost making my HTC HD2 freeze all the time... Unfortunately I don't have that much programs to move to the SD card in order to release space and the temporary memory files are frequently being erased as well....
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There was a post in another thread here that hinted at this ability, but since that thread was general and 17 pages long I figured a dedicated one was worthy. Anyway, is there any registry setting that will put all outlook messaging (all mail accounts) to the storage card.
Here is the post that had a setting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=234798#234798
I did what it said and it did make a file on /Storage Card/Inbox (where I said to put it) and it did not create a storage card2 like the post said... maybe because the new ROM starts the storage card before outlook now.
Thanks,
Edwin
Update: well I have figured out all future mail in the location. pretty cool, but what about the database it uses to reference these files. there must be a database somewhere that references each file that is each email (each email is a file in and of itself in the directory) and if there is a way to move these databases then we can reset at will and keep all of our data.
Update2: SMS and probably mms are not affected by this reg edit. any more to move these too?
I dunno if this will work but have you tried DBView?
www.magenic.com
it'll allow you to see what i think you want to see with the database stores
ethorn said:
There was a post in another thread here that hinted at this ability, but since that thread was general and 17 pages long I figured a dedicated one was worthy. Anyway, is there any registry setting that will put all outlook messaging (all mail accounts) to the storage card.
Here is the post that had a setting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=234798#234798
I did what it said and it did make a file on /Storage Card/Inbox (where I said to put it) and it did not create a storage card2 like the post said... maybe because the new ROM starts the storage card before outlook now.
Thanks,
Edwin
Update: well I have figured out all future mail in the location. pretty cool, but what about the database it uses to reference these files. there must be a database somewhere that references each file that is each email (each email is a file in and of itself in the directory) and if there is a way to move these databases then we can reset at will and keep all of our data.
Update2: SMS and probably mms are not affected by this reg edit. any more to move these too?
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Are you saying you found a way to fix it so the system doesn't create a folder called "Storage Card"? Also, who else thinks its wierd that having attachments to the storage card doesn't cause this issue, just the mail itself.
kristiandg said:
Are you saying you found a way to fix it so the system doesn't create a folder called "Storage Card"? Also, who else thinks its wierd that having attachments to the storage card doesn't cause this issue, just the mail itself.
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On 2.16.9.1 it either doesn't have the startup issue or (since I made changes to startup folder, ie deleted poutlook) I do not have the Storage Card and Storage Card2 problem. Probably the reason it never happened with the attachments is because it doesn't read the attachments in any way to build teh default today screen (which I also do not have anything but spb diary, spb power plus, and the default date/clock bar.
But I still wonder were the rest of the data is stored... I can see the SMS and contacts being in the database that is part of WM5, but MMS I can't see being there and can't find anywhere else they could be.
Feeling a little leary about doing reg edits on my device, so I'm wondering if anyone has a cab that will move the mail/attachments to my storage card? I have done the PIE Cache switch, but not the mail yet. If it hasn't been made, I'll just deal with "trying" to figure out the reg edits.
there is a hack to this, i cannot remember where it is exactly, just search the forum and you will find it.
jasjamming said:
there is a hack to this, i cannot remember where it is exactly, just search the forum and you will find it.
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Yeah I'm trying to avoid the RegEdit. There has to be someone who has made this cab.
Alrighty... Now I'm a bit confused. I tried to follow the directions below (from Mike Temporale's site) and can't get to the proper RegEdit. I really must be doing something wrong. Anyone care to help out with this one? I am available via IM or phone in the US. Just drop me a PM and I can either call you or I'll give you my IM address (sorry not posting it online).
Also I'm using Total Commander for RegEdits because PHM wouldn't install properly.
http://mike.temporale.com/archive/2006/09/23/176.aspx
Another thing you can do is to move the storage of email and attachments out of main memory and on to the storage card. This change involves making changes to the registry, so you'll want to be extra safe when making this change. First thing you need to do is create a couple folders on your storage card. The first folder should be \Storage Card\Mail\ and the second folder should be \Storage Card\Mail\Attachments\ You can call them whatever you want, but I would recommend using the standard names. Once these are created, you'll need to edit your registry. Open your favourite Windows Mobile registry editor and browse to HKRY_Current_User\Software\Microsoft\MAPI and create 2 new string values. The first should be called PropertyPath and should have a value matching the mail folder you created. The second should be called AttachPath and should have a value matchings the attachments folder you created. So PropertyPath = \Storage Card\Mail and AttachPath = \Storage Card\Mail\Attachments
maybe this is not what you're looking for but you can just modify this in your inbox. just go to the mailacount, select menu -> extra -> options -> storage -> and then select "save attachments on storage card". It's as easy as that.
8YEight said:
maybe this is not what you're looking for but you can just modify this in your inbox. just go to the mailacount, select menu -> extra -> options -> storage -> and then select "save attachments on storage card". It's as easy as that.
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Doesn't work for Exchange accounts. Only other mail accounts...
nskgti23 said:
Doesn't work for Exchange accounts. Only other mail accounts...
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it works for my exchange account, but I had to set the mail options to storage card prior to syncing with exchange. My attachment folder is currently at 55 mb..And i don't have any other mail accounts, but my exchange account going to my pda...
nskgti23 said:
Alrighty... Now I'm a bit confused. I tried to follow the directions below (from Mike Temporale's site) and can't get to the proper RegEdit. I really must be doing something wrong. Anyone care to help out with this one? I am available via IM or phone in the US. Just drop me a PM and I can either call you or I'll give you my IM address (sorry not posting it online).
Also I'm using Total Commander for RegEdits because PHM wouldn't install properly.
http://mike.temporale.com/archive/2006/09/23/176.aspx
Another thing you can do is to move the storage of email and attachments out of main memory and on to the storage card. This change involves making changes to the registry, so you'll want to be extra safe when making this change. First thing you need to do is create a couple folders on your storage card. The first folder should be \Storage Card\Mail\ and the second folder should be \Storage Card\Mail\Attachments\ You can call them whatever you want, but I would recommend using the standard names. Once these are created, you'll need to edit your registry. Open your favourite Windows Mobile registry editor and browse to HKRY_Current_User\Software\Microsoft\MAPI and create 2 new string values. The first should be called PropertyPath and should have a value matching the mail folder you created. The second should be called AttachPath and should have a value matchings the attachments folder you created. So PropertyPath = \Storage Card\Mail and AttachPath = \Storage Card\Mail\Attachments
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this is quite useful
I just got my hd yesterday. I love it!
Anyway, regarding email attachments....
How can I set it up, so that I can read an email but not download its attachment?
Right now, I can only read the subject line. Then I can choose to download all headers PLUS attachments if I actually want to read the email. But I can't figure out how to simply read the whole email without using up my data transfer costs to download an attached file that I know I won't need on my mobile.
Is that possible? I haven't found how to do it yet.
Wow, that's a hard one, because the automatic procedures for some of the major email carriers (hotmail, yahoo, gmail, etc...) differ from the standard ones, which there are 3 of (Internet email, exchange server, custom domain). What email are you using?
I use a gmail account and a couple of Internet email accounts, and their setups are slightly different.
Try this: from the Messaging ap, click the right soft menu button called [Menu], then Tools > Options..., then tap your email account name. Next click the Download Size Settings link, and select [Entire Message] from the Message Download Limit: dropdown box. I noticed in my gmail account, there is an additional dropdown that lets you select how to download attachments.
Did you know you can save attachments on your MicroSD card? After you tap Menu > Tools > Options..., tap the [Storage] tab and check the "When available, use this storage card to store attachments" checkbox. I always do this very first thing after a hard reset or first turn-on before any new messages come in, but I believe if you check that with messages already on the phone, it will automatically move the attachments. To test, use file explorer and navigate to the "\Windows\Messaging\Attachments" folder, and it should be empty. The new folder on your MicroSD card where the new attachments are is "\Storage Card\Inbox.mst(and a bunch of numbers)\Mail Attachments"
That said, did you know you can store ALL of your messages on your MicroSD card, headers and all, not just your attachments? If you'd like to do this, you'll first need to turn off automatic email checking in all your email accounts. Then, using file explorer, navigate to "\Storage Card" and rename the "Inbox.mst(and a bunch of numbers)" folder to "Messaging", just like it is in the "\Windows" folder. Next, using a registry editor (I use Resco Explorer, but you can download PHM Registry Editor for free), edit the following key: HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings:AttachPath and change the value to '\Storage Card\Messaging\Mail Attachments\'. Next, create a new String Value entry and name it 'PropertyPath' and give it a value of '\Storage Card\Messaging\'. Exit the registry editor and bring up file explorer again and copy all of the files in '\Windows\Messaging' to '\Storage Card\Messaging'. Do the same for the attachments in the Attachments folder if they didn't move automatically. Soft reset your HD and you now have ALL your email on your storage card, freeing up valuable system memory.
Hope this helps someone...
--Jesse
Wow Jesse, great tips!! Thank you!! I'll be checking them out and I'll post how it all goes.
Well, I tried your suggestion for to somehow download the email message without downloading attachments - but it unfortunately did not change anything.
I have two email accounts set up. One is a hotmail address and the other one is with Arcor (my ISP in Germany). It's a regular POP3 account.
I did change the settings to store attachments on my storage card. Thanks for the tip. And YES - it will move the attachments from messages you already have. It automatically created a folder in my card and called it inbox.mst(and a bunch of numbers). In it, I now have a bunch of .att files. Some are a couple of KB big and a couple are about 2MB large (which I assume are the attached files). I thought the attachments would be saved as they are (for example .pdf or .doc) but everything is .att.
I haven't tried your last suggestions to edit the registry and have everything saved onto the card. If I do that, I'll post back how it turns out.
If any other ideas come to mind in terms of my initial issue with wanting to avoid downloading attachments, but still downloading the text content of an email - please let me know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-298646.html
Has anyone been able to get this working on HD2 ? It has worked very well with WM6 on my TYTN. But on HD2, when you set the mentioned registry values, for some reason, the Storage Card folder gets renamed to "Storage Card2", thus rendering the registry settings useless.
Is it possible that Outlook is getting invoked before the storage card is mounted ?
Why not just go
mail tab - Inbox - Menu - Tools - Options - Storage - and tick 'when available use this storage card to store attachments'
No need to edit the registry, Is that not working for you?
samsamuel said:
Why not just go
mail tab - Inbox - Menu - Tools - Options - Storage - and tick 'when available use this storage card to store attachments'
No need to edit the registry, Is that not working for you?
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Samuel, that setting only affects the attachments. I am looking for storing the emails itself on the storage card.
Ahhh gotcha.
Hey guys,
For some reason I believe the my email cache and downloaded messages are saved in the phone memory ?!
How can i change the storage location of my outlook mail ? as well as another email that I added (not outlook) ?
if you are wanting to free up space by moving attachments you can move it to the storage card.
Start->Email->Highlight the outlook account->menu->options
then select the storage tab and check the box so that the phone will use the storage card for all attachments
Thank you very very much
Move all to mem card
ZaZu90 said:
Hey guys,
For some reason I believe the my email cache and downloaded messages are saved in the phone memory ?!
How can i change the storage location of my outlook mail ? as well as another email that I added (not outlook) ?
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try this cab, I've used it on all my phones with no issues, BUT I dont have a HD2 as yet to confirm.
I have this installed as my first add on cab after a rom update.
Cheers
fadge said:
try this cab, I've used it on all my phones with no issues, BUT I dont have a HD2 as yet to confirm.
I have this installed as my first add on cab after a rom update.
Cheers
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What does it do though ?
ZaZu90 said:
What does it do though ?
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Moves all the messages etc onto mem card ie off the main memory.
Save space when like me I have 3 email accounts 6000+emails, plus some attachments, and if anyone asks yes it does take a while to resync after a flash..
cheers
fadge said:
try this cab, I've used it on all my phones with no issues, BUT I dont have a HD2 as yet to confirm.
I have this installed as my first add on cab after a rom update.
Cheers
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fadge said:
Moves all the messages etc onto mem card ie off the main memory.
Save space when like me I have 3 email accounts 6000+emails, plus some attachments, and if anyone asks yes it does take a while to resync after a flash..
cheers
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Thanks
Hello all,
has any of you tried this?
As I have seen some issues with a folder Storage Card2 issue, I'd like a feedback on the Leo/HD2 before trying it...
Basically, I have one mail of 10Mo on the main memory of my phone, stored in the Windows\messaging.
I have gone in the mail menu, options and storage " use Strage card".
I have the folder now on the storage card Inbox.mstxxxxxx.yyyyyy
but nothing in yet...
ie it did not move the existing messages to it yet...
How and when is it supposed to do it?
Sincerely,
vdelab
vdelab said:
Hello all,
has any of you tried this?
As I have seen some issues with a folder Storage Card2 issue, I'd like a feedback on the Leo/HD2 before trying it...
Basically, I have one mail of 10Mo on the main memory of my phone, stored in the Windows\messaging.
I have gone in the mail menu, options and storage " use Strage card".
I have the folder now on the storage card Inbox.mstxxxxxx.yyyyyy
but nothing in yet...
ie it did not move the existing messages to it yet...
How and when is it supposed to do it?
Sincerely,
vdelab
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+1 on this... would love to know
ctman said:
+1 on this... would love to know
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puahing it
fadge said:
Moves all the messages etc onto mem card ie off the main memory.
Save space when like me I have 3 email accounts 6000+emails, plus some attachments, and if anyone asks yes it does take a while to resync after a flash..
cheers
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Ehum, I wouldnt be so sure. That cab adds/changes these two keys:
[HLKLM\System\Inbox\Settings]
AttachPath = "\Internal Storage\Messaging\Attachments"
PropertyPath = "\Internal Storage\Messaging"
Afaik, "Internal Storage" isnt mapped to the Storage Card in any way, at least not on the HD2? Has anyone tried this cab on the HD2? Might work if simply changed to "\Storage Card\Messaging\Attachments" and "\Storage Card\Messaging" respectively?
Use with caution
I would use this with extreme caution. All testing I have done on the HD2 (moving my mail files was one of the first things I tried when I got the device back in November) has suggested that the usual registry hack does not work and will merely create the Storage Card 2 issue. It's easy enough to sort out but it certainly won't move the mail files.
If anyone knows different and has got anything working in this respect please correct me but I believe the HD2 just won't play ball.
For what it's worth, the best guess I have at the problem is that the some element of the mail application is kicking off before the Storage Card is mounted
HTC HD2 Work Around - I assume
The reason y it keeps renaming to Storage Card2 because when you boot your phone, the HTC Home looks for your mails which should be technically in the actual memory card(storage card) once you've tweaked the reg. This happens while the phone is yet to detect the memory card. Due to the unavailabilty of the mem card, it creates a folder in root directorynamed 'storage card' then the phone detects the mem card and renames it to storage card 2 for obvious reasons.
Now the workaround, install all the four cabs for cache, email, etc... and then regedit "HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings" and edit
<parm name="PropertyPath" value="\Outlook\Mail" and "AttachPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments". The mail headers remain in phone memory, so that it can be detected on boot ups and avoids from renamings of storage cards, but the attachment stays in the mem card.
I edited the registry and set "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Inbox\Settings\PropertyPath" = "\Storage Card\email\". After the first soft reset, I had the "Storage Card2" problem, so I went into Resco Explorer and moved the "email" directory to "\Storage Card2\email\", then soft reset again. On the 2nd boot, Storage Card is back to being named as Storage Card, and now, all my emails are on the Storage Card instead of internal memory.
I have over 4000 emails with attachments downloaded now without any impact on internal storage space.
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I'm still getting the "Storage Card2" problem on a few soft resets... I guess the only way is to have the email text on the device and attachments in the Storage Card...
ben19 said:
The reason y it keeps renaming to Storage Card2 because when you boot your phone, the HTC Home looks for your mails which should be technically in the actual memory card(storage card) once you've tweaked the reg. This happens while the phone is yet to detect the memory card. Due to the unavailabilty of the mem card, it creates a folder in root directorynamed 'storage card' then the phone detects the mem card and renames it to storage card 2 for obvious reasons.
Now the workaround, install all the four cabs for cache, email, etc... and then regedit "HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings" and edit
<parm name="PropertyPath" value="\Outlook\Mail" and "AttachPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments". The mail headers remain in phone memory, so that it can be detected on boot ups and avoids from renamings of storage cards, but the attachment stays in the mem card.
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Please could someone advise the cabs information as above RED, thanks in advance.
@ben19
I don't believe your solution is any different to that which can be achieved by setting attachments to be stored on the card from within Pocket Outlook - which is also potentially safer as it doesn't involve a registry hack by the user.
@gregwee
I believe you will be stuck with the Storage card 2 issue until someone manages to crack the fact that the HD2 seems to load up email before it mounts the card. You are therefore correct in that having mail in main memory and attachments in the card is about the best we can do for now.
@apieceofcake
For the reasons above, I don't think any CAB will address the fundamental issue so my advice would be not to bother and simply set your attachments to be stored on the card
I would love to see a cab-file that could move all messages (not only headers) to my storage card as default.
Bit of a joke. its a Windows based product, need to get all my Outlook mail. Internal memory is now full. Have nothing else on the bloody phone except for 2 apps. Need help with this urgently as I can't put up with this much longer!
weareborg said:
Bit of a joke. its a Windows based product, need to get all my Outlook mail. Internal memory is now full. Have nothing else on the bloody phone except for 2 apps. Need help with this urgently as I can't put up with this much longer!
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FYI
pocket mechanic can relocate Outlook emails to your sd card, hope that helps.
Thanks S21s20! Have you confirmed it works for the HTC HD2?