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Nub question

Sorry if this is asked constantly, i tried searching and couldn't see any threads about it.
Basically what i'm wanting to know is if it's possible to unlock a phone that's still locked to a specific carrier (eg, optus or telstra if you're in australia). is this what CID unlocking is?
If so, then i guess i can grab a hermes / jasjam from ebay that's selling for less because it's carrier locked, unlock it, and use it with my current sim card?
Thanks in advance for any advice.

You're definately new with a question like that
Basically CID unlocking allows you to flash a ROM from any carrier and use it.
SIM unlocking allows you to use any SIM card with your existing (or any other) ROM.
If all you want to do is use a stock phone with any carrier I suggest you use POF's CID and SIM unlocker http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SimUnlock.
If you want to get better ROMS you'll need to do a whole pile more reading, and before flashing anything else start with Olipro's Hard-SPL 2.10 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722 and Mrvanx's Upgrade Guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462.
Other useful upgrade info can be found in this sticky http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295751
mkerr said:
Sorry if this is asked constantly, i tried searching and couldn't see any threads about it.
Basically what i'm wanting to know is if it's possible to unlock a phone that's still locked to a specific carrier (eg, optus or telstra if you're in australia). is this what CID unlocking is?
If so, then i guess i can grab a hermes / jasjam from ebay that's selling for less because it's carrier locked, unlock it, and use it with my current sim card?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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so all i'd need to do, assuming i keep the stock rom, is to sim unlock it?

Yep, if you SIM unlock you can use the phone as supplied but with any carriers SIM card.
Oh yes, welcome to XDA-developers - I think if you read a bit more you will realise the benefits of the cooked ROMs here and later want to upgrade - it's highly addictive
mkerr said:
so all i'd need to do, assuming i keep the stock rom, is to sim unlock it?
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One further bit of advice if buying one of these phones from ebay - ask the seller for a picture of the phone when switched on so you can check it has a radio signal - also get him to confirm that it doesn't display NO GSM on the bottom right when it is booting. The NO GSM indicates a brick which may or may not be fixable by the tools we have here.
mkerr said:
Sorry if this is asked constantly, i tried searching and couldn't see any threads about it.
Basically what i'm wanting to know is if it's possible to unlock a phone that's still locked to a specific carrier (eg, optus or telstra if you're in australia). is this what CID unlocking is?
If so, then i guess i can grab a hermes / jasjam from ebay that's selling for less because it's carrier locked, unlock it, and use it with my current sim card?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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cheers for the reply
at the moment i've got an imate k-jam, and have been reading up about cooked roms etc, but didn't realise exactly what the unlocking involved (except that it let you play with the roms).

G4 CID unlock question

Sorry If this has been covered before I have searched but a million differnt threads each saying different things.
I understand to get custom roms onto the wizzard you need to be CID unlocked.
I have a tmobile mda vario/wizzard G4 (from what ive read its a G4 if your ipl/spl ends .0001)
Ive sucsessfully unlocked the simlock using lokiwiz and am looking at CID unlocking. From reading the forum it sounds like only imei check.co.uk can do the unlock however when i looked at the website i couldnt see any mention of the cid unlock. just want to check as i dont want to spend £20 to sim unlock a phone thats already unlocked.
assuming all is well and they do do the g4 cid unlock as part of the process, the fact that im already sim unlocked using lokiwiz shouldnt present any problems should it?
Thanks

funy said:
Sorry If this has been covered before I have searched but a million differnt threads each saying different things.
I understand to get custom roms onto the wizzard you need to be CID unlocked.
I have a tmobile mda vario/wizzard G4 (from what ive read its a G4 if your ipl/spl ends .0001)
Ive sucsessfully unlocked the simlock using lokiwiz and am looking at CID unlocking. From reading the forum it sounds like only imei check.co.uk can do the unlock however when i looked at the website i couldnt see any mention of the cid unlock. just want to check as i dont want to spend £20 to sim unlock a phone thats already unlocked.
assuming all is well and they do do the g4 cid unlock as part of the process, the fact that im already sim unlocked using lokiwiz shouldnt present any problems should it?
Thanks
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Yes imei-check.co.uk CID unlock your device as well. You can also use shelltool to update the OS on your CID locked G4 device, this is a free alternative. Before paying imei check you might want to confirm that your device is CID locked.

how can i confirm its locked?
thanks

funy said:
how can i confirm its locked?
thanks
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Check if your device is CID locked here.

Use SoftSPL or HardSPL to unlock.
I used HardSPL and can flash with huge amount of roms now..

CID unlock Confusion

Is calling or emailing in ATT to get a unlock code the same as CID unlocking? or would I need to hack my 8525 to CID unlock it so I can add Different ROMS???

When you instal HardSPL your device is CID unlocked. It means that you can flash any Rom to your device. However, it is still SIM locked. Fot that you need to go to the Hermes Upgrading Forum.

Symbian_Black said:
Is calling or emailing in ATT to get a unlock code the same as CID unlocking? or would I need to hack my 8525 to CID unlock it so I can add Different ROMS???
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if all you want to do is add new roms, use HardSpl v7, its a sticky at the top of the hermes mobile 6 or hermes upgrading sub-forums.
it fools the program into thinking your super cid without actually being super cid.
anyone please correct me if i'm wrong.

I think this answerers my question and worry about just running my phone as is and upgrading later if I want.
I keep reading later 8525's are impossible to sim unlock once they have been turned on once, so I was leery of even running the phone as is... but now since I know I DON'T have to sim unlock it to flash roms then I'm not going to worry about the unchangeable radio rom.

How to CID-LOCK a Device?

Yeah, you've read right - I want to CID-Lock my device. Because of some reception issues, i have to send it for repair. I've still warranty on it, but it's unlocked by imei-check.co.uk, so I have to lock it again. Anyone knows somethin'bout it?

Common guys, someone has to know something about it...

Saiyajin said:
Yeah, you've read right - I want to CID-Lock my device. Because of some reception issues, i have to send it for repair. I've still warranty on it, but it's unlocked by imei-check.co.uk, so I have to lock it again. Anyone knows somethin'bout it?
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Perhaps you'll have to request imei-check.co.uk to send you the locking code
if you had CID unlocked through lokiwiz,it wud have been easy by restoring back the cid_locked.bin with lokiwiz which it creates at the time of Cid unlocking.

Yeah but the problem was, that I have a G4 Device, so it didn't work with lokiwiz, at the time.

Lokiwiz tool does not CID unlock a G4 device,however,you can SIM unlock a G4 device by lokiwiz 0.3 version,it provides you with a SIM unlock code.
Anyway,have you upgraded your phone to any wm6 custom Rom or still on official carrier's OS,which came pre-installed on it ? if you are still on the official Rom,then don't assume that the vendor will have any doubts about it being CID unlocked.But if you upgraded then you got a problem there.If you graded,as it's already CID unlocked,may be if you flash the official carrier's Rom which was pre installed,it might get away with it,well it's a give and take situation,but gonna have to take some risk now.
Cheers

Saiyajin said:
Yeah, you've read right - I want to CID-Lock my device. Because of some reception issues, i have to send it for repair. I've still warranty on it, but it's unlocked by imei-check.co.uk, so I have to lock it again. Anyone knows somethin'bout it?
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Have a look the-equinox's thread about HardSPL stickied in the G4 thread and also at my tutorial on how to remove HardSPL stickied to the top of the G4 thread. I don't know if it is the same concept and procedure but if my thread will help you then it's worth a try.
Good luck.

Using my Artemis in the USA?

Hey guys, please excuse my noobness, I have read thoroughly but I am still confused!
I have an O2 Orbit (ie Artemis) and I am going to the USA soon.
I've become a bit confused as to what I need to do to my Artemis to get it working with a prepay sim in the states.
I've seen the posts about cid unlocking, but I'm not sure if that's the same as a sim unlock, and I don't want to brick my phone!
I'm not too bothered about cooked roms etc, I have updated to WM6 and I'm reasonably happy with it, I just want to be able to use my phone in the USA.
Would someone be kind enough to take the time to explain what I need to do?
Thanks

I forgot to add, I tried this tutorial to perform a sim unlock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400445
but unfortunately the 'artemis sim unlock' download link is broken

I think it should already work in the US. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that only phones bought in the US from a provider are SIM-locked. CID unlocking is only used to help you flash your phone to a different ROM, which, as you already mentioned, you are not interested in doing.

I see, so CID unlocking is nothing to do with what I want, I simply need a SIM unlock, assuming my phone is SIM locked.
SIM locking is normal practice for UK service providers, so I assume it is locked.
Is there any way I can tell if my phone is SIM locked, or do I have to test it by putting a SIM card from a different provider in it?