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Hiya All,
Some serious thinking came across my mind couple of days ago...what if my device will get lost ? Any person that will find it will be able to view anything on my device such as contacts, calendar, notes and even use the phone.
Of course there is an option to lock the device but who the h*ll want to unlock it everytime he is starting to use it ?
What I was thinking is to send a restructive sms message or anything alike that will make a HR to the device or lock it with long enough password to avoid hacking.
Anyone has encoutered this kind of app that can make the above request ?
Any other usefull thoughts on this subject ?
Thanks in advance,
Bright Star

You could install One-Pass. It locks the PPC until a password is entered. WIth this software installed, no one could get into your PPC. They could get what ever was on your storage card, though.

I have an application I am in final beta stages that will hard reset the ppc,
based on a user defined code being sent via sms.

inane, does it hard reset when anyone sends the sms or does it recognise only certain numbers? Last thing I would want is my mates finding out about the message and sending it to me for a laugh!

There's an app that comes with the WM5 SDK that allows you to lock ur device via SMS but obviously you'd need WM5 :wink:

Bright Star said:
What I was thinking is to send a restructive sms message or anything alike that will make a HR to the device...
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Bright Star,
There is a commercial application available that does exactly that. It is named PDAKill. The developer is ScpSoft (http://www.scpsoft.com).
Here is a brief blurb from their website:
PDAKill is designed to protect users of PDA's from loss/theft of their devices. It allows users to send a predefined SMS message which will hard reset the PDA, deleting the user data (including the storage area* and Storage Card which eliminates any files surviving the hard reset) returning the device to its original factory settings.
You can purchase it from Handango for about $15.00. I've never used it so I can't provide you with any other comment. I just recalled reading about it.
- Peter

PDAKill
Thanks alot Peter,
This looks like the s/w I've been looking after.
I'll buy it and give it a try.
Bright S.

Re: PDAKill
Bright Star said:
Thanks alot Peter,
This looks like the s/w I've been looking after.
I'll buy it and give it a try.
Bright S.
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Better back up your data first...
I still like one-pass better. It locks the screen with your user information showing. This allows an honest person who finds your PDA to call you and collect the generous reward you offer.
THe only way to get out of the 1-pass system is to do a hard reset, which kills the internal memory and storage.

nedge2k said:
There's an app that comes with the WM5 SDK that allows you to lock ur device via SMS but obviously you'd need WM5 :wink:
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Do you know where I can get this, I have the BlueAngel with WM5 and would love to use a program like this. I am sure that it would require a client install and the sms to the device would require some type of code.
Thanks

it would be cool if there would be a low level application which could reflash the boot rom with zero's and somehow disable bootloader mode and then preform a soft reset. the device could then be thrown into a trash without a service in a repair center... :twisted:

stevedebi said:
You could install One-Pass. It locks the PPC until a password is entered. WIth this software installed, no one could get into your PPC. They could get what ever was on your storage card, though.
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Do you know who wrote One-Pass?

http://www.omegaone.com/pass/default.htm
FYI it can be nicely resource hacked to make it match your own theme
I'll try to post a screenshot some time.
V

But how would you know which number you send the SMS to? You will never now what SIM card the "thief" is using!

kta said:
But how would you know which number you send the SMS to? You will never now what SIM card the "thief" is using!
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maybe it could send you a message first after every sim card change? to see the numbers

no need to install One-Pass, just set the "prompt if device unused" to 0 minutes, then it will always ask for password.

Man if we could get a program like this it would be great (SMS Lock), and more than likely if someone finds your phone they are not going to know what to do with it...

dwd said:
no need to install One-Pass, just set the "prompt if device unused" to 0 minutes, then it will always ask for password.
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What if they do a reset? I don't think the password is in effect at that time. You could require a password (PIN) for the phone, but I find that to be a hassle.
With one-pass, the phone won't complete the soft reset unless the password is entered.
It also allows you to program the buttons for a "quick password".

not to get too offtopic but I for a start would NEVER put important data on an mobile device. It's risky enough with some docs on my notebook but those are now going to be transferred to an remote encrypted server with an stable VPN connection.
PDAs aren't secure. PERIOD. I never store any important data on my Magician. The worst thing you'll find are the text messages to my gf, hehe. Btw i'm I the only one concerned about losing an € 500 device ?
Liking the boom-on-SMS idea tough. Will prob never use it. I use deltalock to lock the screen of my Magician. 9 of 10 ppl are too stupid to figure out how to unlock it. hehehe.

MMaster23 said:
not to get too offtopic but I for a start would NEVER put important data on an mobile device. It's risky enough with some docs on my notebook but those are now going to be transferred to an remote encrypted server with an stable VPN connection.
PDAs aren't secure. PERIOD. I never store any important data on my Magician. The worst thing you'll find are the text messages to my gf, hehe. Btw i'm I the only one concerned about losing an € 500 device ?.
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hence
will also use gps capability when availible
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no more lost device!

IIWPO: MUST-HAVE 4 ur expensive JJ!

IIWPO is a FREE (xda-developers) app that wakes up and sends an SMS if anyone changes the owner info. So, if ur device is stolen, you get an SMS as soon as a new SIM is installed and the owner info is changed. From that SMS, you can start to call and hunt down the thief.
Typically IIWPO is installed in an unlocked ROM. We can't do that on the JJ, BUT we do have persistent storage, so we can put it in our startup folder and only a savvy PPC user will know to remove it (most thieves are not going to be savvy - or at least not before you've been informed of their new details!).
Can someone please provide a version that works on the JasJar, along with brief instructions on how best to set it up. For a device of this value, this will be MUCH appreciated! In fact, it DEMANDS a donation to xda-developers (crediting IIWPO)...
[Edit] The currently available version works! I'm making my donation right now. See :arrow:

Not sure i fully understood
By installing the app, what it does is:
when inserting a different sim than the one I specified,
it sends me (Specified sim / phone number) an SMS
with the new (Thief) phone number?
if so - does it also work on normal phones IE - nokia?
or only PPC phone ?
10x in advance,

It's written for XDA devices - Nokia is a totally different OS.
Of course if a thief steals YOUR PPC, then that's what is going to send the SMS - no worries.

Remember we have no extention now....so a simply hard-reset will erase the program , but i think it can be be proctected , because the same thing happens to the boot screen , its never erased after hardreset ...so we have a chance...and secondly when u install the program remember not to activate the lock ( screen) bucuz then the theive cant change the owner info..
Thx
AMD

Any anti-stealing apps?

I'm wondering if there's any apps for HD2 that works like "mobile defense" for android that can track the cellphone via a computer and activate the stolen device's GPS to track it.

F-Secure Anti-Theft for Mobile
Here's a very recent freebie from F-Secure
(Anti-Theft for Mobile)
http://www.f-secure.com/en_EMEA/products/mobile/anti-theft-for-mobile/index_main.html

Remote Tracker - Antitheft Software
Here's another one;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203

Can any of this be activated or monitored by remote PC??? Cuz i actually have a block message service for my cell phone account.

Im using Lookout for mobile
https://www.mylookout.com/

"remotetracker" (no space is intentional)

this is the only anti theft that i managed to install. the other are all too compilcated.
will notify on sim change. sms command are case sensitive. locate command will always tell location unavailable even when google map locked on gps.
Zentury said:
Here's a very recent freebie from F-Secure
(Anti-Theft for Mobile)
http://www.f-secure.com/en_EMEA/products/mobile/anti-theft-for-mobile/index_main.html
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this one is better. no need to use second phone. can also locate using cell id and show it on google maps, like latitude. good to find lost phone with the screaming features.
did you use the anti virus and firewall?
Som30ne said:
Im using Lookout for mobile
https://www.mylookout.com/
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F-Secure sms to finland?
I've had F-secure anti-theft in my phone for a while now. The txt location service works great, and last month I tried changing the sim, and guess what, got a sms on my backup phone with the new sim's phone number, which is exactly what it is supposed to do.
However, i checked my itemized bill today, and see the program sent an sms to Finland immediately after texting me. The number was 358400112368 . Googled this number and only got two vague references to f-secure on a nokia. Why in the world would they need to txt their mothership about my sim? Anyone else using f-secure anti-theft? Please check your bill and let us know if it sent a txt to finland.
As far as using other similar programs:
Mylookout : never worked for me, website says searching, and times out.
remotetracker : Stay away from this program!! its txt request uses no password, so anyone who knows you have the program installed can secretly monitor you via sms. An intentional oversight from the developer perhaps? And pretty malicious at that too! Edit: got it, see post below.
ms myphone : free version can only check the daily sync log. I cannot initiate a location search unless i pay, or am I doing it wrong?
so, anyone with f-secure got the txt to 358400112368? I guess this post will be the only 3rd google search result for this number?

atlaswing said:
remotetracker : Stay away from this program!! its txt request uses no password, so anyone who knows you have the program installed can secretly monitor you via sms. An intentional oversight from the developer perhaps? And pretty malicious at that too!
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wrong.
yes it does, if you dont set a password then yes, anyone can control it, , but set a password and it doesnt respond to control txts without it.

samsamuel said:
wrong.
yes it does, if you dont set a password then yes, anyone can control it, , but set a password and it doesnt respond to control txts without it.
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my bad. thanks Samsamuel for the correction. i re-read the first whole page of that remoteTracker thread and the word "password" was never mentioned in his post or instructions.
as far as my original question regarding F-secure, anybody else see the outgoing text to finland when they change SIMs?

no worries.
i for one can't rate remotetracker highly enough. i cook my own rom, so its cooked in complete with settings, so its completely hard reset safe. only way to stop it working is by flashing.
that random text you mention sounds a little iffy, you tried emailing them? see what they have to say?

another vote for remotetracker.
It found my phone when left in a taxi

the F-Secure thing looks nice, i think im gonna try it this evening
lets see if it really sends a sms to finnland xD

I came across this thread, and just downloaded (didn't install yet) the f-secure app.
A couple things I don't understand.
I believe I have read posts here about needing a "backup mobile number", for the company to send SMS to, if something suspicious is happening with the phone.
But what if one only has one mobile number, no backup? Is the app then useless? (Couldn't there be an e-mail, or a call to the landline?)
Also, I see that besides giving this app away, F-Secure sells "mobile secuirty". (I guess that means anti-virus and such. Is that really necessary? I have never used an AV on my phone before, and never had a problem with that AFAIK.)
With the post about the SMS to Finland (probably company headquarters), it occurs to me, they may give away this anti-theft app, in order to get your phone #, and send you text messages advertising their AV app? I wouldn't want to get spammed with text messages. Has that happened to anyone using this?

remotetracker can send email

i've changed sim few time. fsecure only send sms to the assigned number (i know, i've itemized billing, and i can send sms internationally).
anyway, since it can never reply with correct location, and i've already figured out how to use remotetracker, i'm ditching it too. plus, fsecure will always pop up with it stupid checking for update while i'm using my phone. can't it check quietly?

atlaswing said:
I've had F-secure anti-theft in my phone for a while now. The txt location service works great, and last month I tried changing the sim, and guess what, got a sms on my backup phone with the new sim's phone number, which is exactly what it is supposed to do.
However, i checked my itemized bill today, and see the program sent an sms to Finland immediately after texting me. The number was 358400112368 . Googled this number and only got two vague references to f-secure on a nokia. Why in the world would they need to txt their mothership about my sim? Anyone else using f-secure anti-theft? Please check your bill and let us know if it sent a txt to finland.
As far as using other similar programs:
Mylookout : never worked for me, website says searching, and times out.
remotetracker : Stay away from this program!! its txt request uses no password, so anyone who knows you have the program installed can secretly monitor you via sms. An intentional oversight from the developer perhaps? And pretty malicious at that too! Edit: got it, see post below.
ms myphone : free version can only check the daily sync log. I cannot initiate a location search unless i pay, or am I doing it wrong?
so, anyone with f-secure got the txt to 358400112368? I guess this post will be the only 3rd google search result for this number?
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when was the last time you used mylookout? A few months ago, it couldn't find the phone for me, but in the last month, it is working.
rumpleforeskin said:
another vote for remotetracker.
It found my phone when left in a taxi
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Maybe I should try that one. Esp. for my son.
me said:
I came across this thread, and just downloaded (didn't install yet) the f-secure app.
A couple things I don't understand.
I believe I have read posts here about needing a "backup mobile number", for the company to send SMS to, if something suspicious is happening with the phone.
But what if one only has one mobile number, no backup? Is the app then useless? (Couldn't there be an e-mail, or a call to the landline?)
Also, I see that besides giving this app away, F-Secure sells "mobile secuirty". (I guess that means anti-virus and such. Is that really necessary? I have never used an AV on my phone before, and never had a problem with that AFAIK.)
With the post about the SMS to Finland (probably company headquarters), it occurs to me, they may give away this anti-theft app, in order to get your phone #, and send you text messages advertising their AV app? I wouldn't want to get spammed with text messages. Has that happened to anyone
using this?
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what about getting a google voice number? Then you could send it there.
badai said:
i've changed sim few time. fsecure only send sms to the assigned number (i know, i've itemized billing, and i can send sms internationally).
anyway, since it can never reply with correct location, and i've already figured out how to use remotetracker, i'm ditching it too. plus, fsecure will always pop up with it stupid checking for update while i'm using my phone. can't it check quietly?
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so fsecure you can't get a correct location?

nrfitchett4 said:
when was the last time you used mylookout? A few months ago, it couldn't find the phone for me, but in the last month, it is working.
Maybe I should try that one. Esp. for my son.
what about getting a google voice number? Then you could send it there.
so fsecure you can't get a correct location?
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see my previous post. it always say location not available.

I just tried lookout. I like it more than remotetracker because it's easier to use (the online "dashboard" makes it easy). The thing I hated the most about remotetracker (and other apps dealing with coded SMS) is that I would have to use an authorized phone and the proper codes to do whatever I need to do. At least with lookout, I can just go online and kill all my data and locate my phone.
I tested the "locate" feature. It found my phone in 2 minutes, but it was a little over one mile away from my phone!
The "scream" feature: It's a loud firetruck-type siren...it was a little bad because San Bruno, CA (one city away from me) had a horrible fireball accident a couple of days ago.
I guess it does its job. The locate feature is decent, but to think that it was off by 1-mile, it could make a difference in a big city.

[Q] hey guys. find my phone wont work.

hey guys i notice that "find my Phone feature wont work." i recently did the unlock hack via registry. is theres a way that may have done something ?? i have a Lg optimus 7
thanks
cm

cmoneto said:
hey guys i notice that "find my Phone feature wont work." i recently did the unlock hack via registry. is theres a way that may have done something ?? i have a Lg optimus 7
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Check with another phone carier, I have same problem on one carrier it works, on another not. For tests use another phone number, it is not required that SIM card be in WP7 phone. If carier "support" this feature you will get SMS from microsoft, if not you are unlucky.
I guess microsoft (from live.com) use some global SMS carier and some carriers in different countries have not configured their gateways to accept this messages.

Well, one thing I noticed is if I am on WiFi or with data on, I tend to find my phone. Microsoft uses three different methods, I believe, to find your phone. One is using the location caching sent from your phone regularly if you have that on in the setting. The other is sending an SMS to force your phone to send a location, in which case your carrier needs to support global SMS I believe, and lastly, they send an email to do the same thing the SMS intended to do.
So first thing you should do is to check whether both boxes are checked in find my phone in settings. Secondly, be patient, if Microsoft can't locate it right away, they will send you an email when they do find it.

Wheres my Phone

Would anyone be able to tell me if there is an app like HTC Sense online that lets me see where my phone is at any time?
Cheers

Where's my Droid
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Try
samsungdive.com

redesignni said:
Would anyone be able to tell me if there is an app like HTC Sense online that lets me see where my phone is at any time?
Cheers
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Try Android Lost

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Try Android Lost
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+1
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The best & free solution is already on your phone. On your SGSII Go to Settings>Accounts & Sync. Create a Samsung account there if you haven't already. Then go to samsungdive.com to track your device, lock it, make it ring if lost.

what if it is stolen and the ROM has been changed?

Cerberus protects even starting without a Sim or a different one, and capture photos if wrong screen lock, call logs and SMS, remote wipe, tracking with GPS, phone wake and scream, popup message, apply extra lock, call phone even if you don't know the number, record calls, hide app, etc. can be SMS or Web activation, Cheap lifetime license and can be installed on 5 devices. Vendor built Sim checker before then two years ago and I can confirm that service is still running. can be moved to /system/app and survives factory reset, Basically only new flash ROM will kill it.
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With remote lock applied from Web site

Lol just saw can take photo on demand and email it, or if phone finder dismisses a popup request to return the phone.
Used push notification unlike Samsung solution which I found was battery killer
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You can give a try to
- Watchdroid
- Phone locator
- Lost Phone
- Wheres my Droid
- SMS remote control
....
I didn't still find the right one ;-) and still searching....

Guys,
I have lost my Galaxy S1 earlier this year; had Samsung dive setup while the phone was lost, but did not help me.The phone was switched off by the time I realized the loss.
I guess, folk who get their hand on some ones phone, kinda know what to do with the Samsung beasts/beauties. Handovers to someone to wipe and flash, would be their best bet, I reckon. I am sory, not taking about all honest folks who would have return the devices to the actual owners.
Since then, have been searching for solutions which are wipe proof / flash proof but not successful. I have even checked android feature request sometime back ,found none.
Since then I have been thinking of this crazy idea that Google needs to implement as part of android OS.
Since we are registering phone / market app on the phone with Google with a gmail id, why can't Google associate the IMIE of the phone with that gmail id ?
If the registered user decides to sell / transfer the phone to someone else the registered user, the register user of the phone initiates the request for transfer with another gmail id / approves the request from another gmail id, without which all/most to the Google support Android features like maps, browser, market ,emails would not work.
i am not finished yet.., android should have a feature to re-confirm the ownership regularly every after a fixed duration of time, which can be user defined. As long as he/she is on data connection, the renewal is a silent process with the cached credentials on the device. If not, provide some window of time time reconfirm the ownership, failing which the lock the features down to just phone calls / limited set user defined and basic android operations. This could be a optional feature, rather than losing the phone and would opt for this feature and i wont mind reconfirming my phone ownership at regular intervals
If someone lost an android phone , he/she has to just change the registered gmail account password which would make if difficult to renew the ownership.If the phone has a data connection, using the registered Google account on the lost device,one should be able to push a message to displayhttp://media.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon9.gifed on the lock screen and home screen. Similar to ChromeTohone / SendToPhone feature.
Mandatory reconfirmation on every flash which are not Non -Wipe. On devices with NFC/ similar chips with writable memory, the ownership details can be written to it and will not be wiped off by wipe or flashing.
Also I would make a humble request to all devs and ROM chefs to keep their busy hands off this feature, if implemented. Ethical stuff
We all love/hate our android phones but won't want to loose them, please let me know you feedback.
PS : I have moved on since my SGS1 only after mouning the loss,but now owns a SGS2

androidlost is the best