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Hello all,
So... bad news has befallen me. I've lost my Hermes; someone else found it and called Mexico city a bunch of times. This is the first time I've ever lost a cell phone in the many years I've carried one.
As I wait for my replacement to arrive I'm wondering what is happening with the data that is on the old one...
I know I can't do anything about the one I lost, but I can think about the next one.
So here is the question: Is there any programs that can wipe the memory card, and hard reset a PocketPC phone when a "special" SMS message or a series of messages shows up? I am hoping to find some way that I can wipe the data off a lost phone, but without a timer running the background that has to be reset.
Thanks in advance!
its highly unlikely, coz if such a thing existed anyone can flash anyone phone by sending an sms, but if have installed some anti theft program it will send a silent sms to u with some info of the cell tower the phone is using..for now get the phone and imei barred by ur service provider
I've already disabled them.
I was thinking of something that would allow you to set a random password to make the phone reset. I'm not having much luck finding one... maybe I need to write one when I have free time...
Is there a way in the WM5/6 APIs to cause a hard reset?
EDIT:
Apparently there is a way: http://www.pocketpcdn.com/articles/hardreset.html
Now I need to figure out how to put a hook into the SMS receiving code.
I DONT THINK U CAN HOOK THAT UP THROUGH sms.. sorry about caps
If you have an exchange server 2007 account you have the capability to wipe all data from the PPC.
Also, see this product: http://www.motionapps.com/msafe/_treo700w.jsp It is currently listed for specific devices, but it demonstrates the capability you are looking for and they have a free trial...
Hrm...
I went and looked at the MS video here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/business/directpushemail.mspx
And this IS the functionality I'm looking for.... BUT I don't think I want to set up an exchange server.
I doubt my phone would play well with a server that is running on my laptop
JasenR said:
If you have an exchange server 2007 account you have the capability to wipe all data from the PPC.
Also, see this product: http://www.motionapps.com/msafe/_treo700w.jsp It is currently listed for specific devices, but it demonstrates the capability you are looking for and they have a free trial...
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Ahh HA! very nice find!
I hope it works on the new Hermes. I'll try it tomorrow when my replacement phone gets here and report back if it works.
I have not tried yet but it seems very cool.
It can do a lot of things by sms control included the hard reset
Eye on thief:
http://www.mycnknow.com/LockAppen.htm
Here's what I don't get with that program...
I'm on Cingular... my settings and whatnot are for Cingular. If the thief has T-mobile, or orange, or whatever... will the SMS still get sent?
You have to enter the "alert" phone number with full access codes, preferably with country code. If the thief can use the phone with his SIM card, it will work. I don't know about the US, but in Europe it's no problem to send a SMS from one carrier to another.
Here's another program doing basically the same:
http://www.pocketpc-live.com/ultimate-theft-alert-v3-for-pocket-pcs-2.html
Remote Protect works as well...
you can lock your phone with an sms, unlock with sms, hard reset as well...
i'm using it on my Dopod 838pro with no problems.
It also has the ability to send you an sms telling you that your phone has been stolen and provides the Thief's IMSI number and your phone's IMEI as well. Once you receive the sms from the Thief's SIM card, you get his number. From there, you can send the Hard Reset/Lock format to his number and it locks the phone.
Hi all,
I've got this problem on my Dev Phone 1 - the "From" number of any SMS I receive has a form of "+<countrycode><operatorcode><number>", instead of just "<operatorcode><number>" or "<number>". It doesn't get looked up in an address book because of this.
I've never had this problem with any other phone, and it's really annoying - most of the time I have no idea who sent me a message.
Thanks in advance
I'm not sure about the dev phone in particular, but T-Mobile has always recommended storing contacts in that format. Google may have taken the hint from them when they spec'd the OS. In that sense, it might not be a bug, but a feature.
beartard said:
I'm not sure about the dev phone in particular, but T-Mobile has always recommended storing contacts in that format. Google may have taken the hint from them when they spec'd the OS. In that sense, it might not be a bug, but a feature.
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Thanks for replying.
Well, I tried storing the number with +<countrycode>. The result is that SMS senders are looked up correctly, but the incoming call caller doesn't get looked up now. So, it's "either SMS sender name, or Caller name" situation.
I tried it with sim cards from two operators (with different callers / senders), same results.
isn't it one of the main differences between US and UK firmware?
torrentss:
What country are you in?? filling in your profile, would help us without asking question like this.
What firmware are using? stock...modded?
Not sure if this thread helps but take at look HERE
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What country are you in?? filling in your profile, would help us without asking question like this.
What firmware are using? stock...modded?
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Sorry about that. It's Georgia (country, not the state), the operators are Geocell and Magti. I'm using stock adp1 firmware.
Maybe it has to do with operators using different formats for calls and SMSes.
The calling numbers are in 8<operatorcode><number> format, but SMSes come from +995<operatorcode><number> (I forgot about the leading 8 in the original post, sorry).
Note that my previous phone (Nokia N73), and every other phone I've used, and all of my friends' phones have absolutely no problems with that.
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Not sure if this thread helps but take at look HERE
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Thanks for the link.
The only place I could find a setting for a country was in google account settings (timezone and an optional country field). Didn't make any difference (I did a sync and reboot).
I found this link, but I'm not sure if it's related - maybe just an old Windows Mobile issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344287
Thanks
very annoying
hi,
am having the same problem in here ...
sms'es include country code in the FROM field, whilst calls do not !
as a result if I want to have a contact to be rocognised to calls and sms, i need to add two entries - 1st with his number only, 2nd -> with the country code - ....
is there a way ( reg hack ) to make the phone remove the country code when receiving an sms, or the other way round ...
i have had no problems with nokia and SE phones before ... sms would still contain country codes, but for these phones , these two numbers would still be recognized and treated conveniently...
torrentss said:
Well, I tried storing the number with +<countrycode>. The result is that SMS senders are looked up correctly, but the incoming call caller doesn't get looked up now. So, it's "either SMS sender name, or Caller name" situation.
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All my contacts are stored as +<country><number> and I have not had a problem with incoming calls not being identified. I am in the US using T-Mo. Phone also properly identified calls when I was using a different sim overseas. Looks like ymmv?
It was fixable in WM by going editing the registry key: HKLM\ControlPanel\Phone\CallIdMatch and changing the value to something like 7 or 6 instead of 8. Later on, HTC made it automatic by either grabbing the value from the provider or having a DB of presets for each country.
However, on Android, the problem still persists. More than 1 year later and it's still there, even on Android 2.2.
z_rudy said:
However, on Android, the problem still persists. More than 1 year later and it's still there, even on Android 2.2.
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Actually, I haven't had this problem for quite some time now (I'm on cyanogen 1.6 now). Fixed some time when I switched to JF or Cyanogen, don't remember exactly.
I'm wondering if there's any apps for HD2 that works like "mobile defense" for android that can track the cellphone via a computer and activate the stolen device's GPS to track it.
F-Secure Anti-Theft for Mobile
Here's a very recent freebie from F-Secure
(Anti-Theft for Mobile)
http://www.f-secure.com/en_EMEA/products/mobile/anti-theft-for-mobile/index_main.html
Remote Tracker - Antitheft Software
Here's another one;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203
Can any of this be activated or monitored by remote PC??? Cuz i actually have a block message service for my cell phone account.
Im using Lookout for mobile
https://www.mylookout.com/
"remotetracker" (no space is intentional)
this is the only anti theft that i managed to install. the other are all too compilcated.
will notify on sim change. sms command are case sensitive. locate command will always tell location unavailable even when google map locked on gps.
Zentury said:
Here's a very recent freebie from F-Secure
(Anti-Theft for Mobile)
http://www.f-secure.com/en_EMEA/products/mobile/anti-theft-for-mobile/index_main.html
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this one is better. no need to use second phone. can also locate using cell id and show it on google maps, like latitude. good to find lost phone with the screaming features.
did you use the anti virus and firewall?
Som30ne said:
Im using Lookout for mobile
https://www.mylookout.com/
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F-Secure sms to finland?
I've had F-secure anti-theft in my phone for a while now. The txt location service works great, and last month I tried changing the sim, and guess what, got a sms on my backup phone with the new sim's phone number, which is exactly what it is supposed to do.
However, i checked my itemized bill today, and see the program sent an sms to Finland immediately after texting me. The number was 358400112368 . Googled this number and only got two vague references to f-secure on a nokia. Why in the world would they need to txt their mothership about my sim? Anyone else using f-secure anti-theft? Please check your bill and let us know if it sent a txt to finland.
As far as using other similar programs:
Mylookout : never worked for me, website says searching, and times out.
remotetracker : Stay away from this program!! its txt request uses no password, so anyone who knows you have the program installed can secretly monitor you via sms. An intentional oversight from the developer perhaps? And pretty malicious at that too! Edit: got it, see post below.
ms myphone : free version can only check the daily sync log. I cannot initiate a location search unless i pay, or am I doing it wrong?
so, anyone with f-secure got the txt to 358400112368? I guess this post will be the only 3rd google search result for this number?
atlaswing said:
remotetracker : Stay away from this program!! its txt request uses no password, so anyone who knows you have the program installed can secretly monitor you via sms. An intentional oversight from the developer perhaps? And pretty malicious at that too!
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wrong.
yes it does, if you dont set a password then yes, anyone can control it, , but set a password and it doesnt respond to control txts without it.
samsamuel said:
wrong.
yes it does, if you dont set a password then yes, anyone can control it, , but set a password and it doesnt respond to control txts without it.
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my bad. thanks Samsamuel for the correction. i re-read the first whole page of that remoteTracker thread and the word "password" was never mentioned in his post or instructions.
as far as my original question regarding F-secure, anybody else see the outgoing text to finland when they change SIMs?
no worries.
i for one can't rate remotetracker highly enough. i cook my own rom, so its cooked in complete with settings, so its completely hard reset safe. only way to stop it working is by flashing.
that random text you mention sounds a little iffy, you tried emailing them? see what they have to say?
another vote for remotetracker.
It found my phone when left in a taxi
the F-Secure thing looks nice, i think im gonna try it this evening
lets see if it really sends a sms to finnland xD
I came across this thread, and just downloaded (didn't install yet) the f-secure app.
A couple things I don't understand.
I believe I have read posts here about needing a "backup mobile number", for the company to send SMS to, if something suspicious is happening with the phone.
But what if one only has one mobile number, no backup? Is the app then useless? (Couldn't there be an e-mail, or a call to the landline?)
Also, I see that besides giving this app away, F-Secure sells "mobile secuirty". (I guess that means anti-virus and such. Is that really necessary? I have never used an AV on my phone before, and never had a problem with that AFAIK.)
With the post about the SMS to Finland (probably company headquarters), it occurs to me, they may give away this anti-theft app, in order to get your phone #, and send you text messages advertising their AV app? I wouldn't want to get spammed with text messages. Has that happened to anyone using this?
remotetracker can send email
i've changed sim few time. fsecure only send sms to the assigned number (i know, i've itemized billing, and i can send sms internationally).
anyway, since it can never reply with correct location, and i've already figured out how to use remotetracker, i'm ditching it too. plus, fsecure will always pop up with it stupid checking for update while i'm using my phone. can't it check quietly?
atlaswing said:
I've had F-secure anti-theft in my phone for a while now. The txt location service works great, and last month I tried changing the sim, and guess what, got a sms on my backup phone with the new sim's phone number, which is exactly what it is supposed to do.
However, i checked my itemized bill today, and see the program sent an sms to Finland immediately after texting me. The number was 358400112368 . Googled this number and only got two vague references to f-secure on a nokia. Why in the world would they need to txt their mothership about my sim? Anyone else using f-secure anti-theft? Please check your bill and let us know if it sent a txt to finland.
As far as using other similar programs:
Mylookout : never worked for me, website says searching, and times out.
remotetracker : Stay away from this program!! its txt request uses no password, so anyone who knows you have the program installed can secretly monitor you via sms. An intentional oversight from the developer perhaps? And pretty malicious at that too! Edit: got it, see post below.
ms myphone : free version can only check the daily sync log. I cannot initiate a location search unless i pay, or am I doing it wrong?
so, anyone with f-secure got the txt to 358400112368? I guess this post will be the only 3rd google search result for this number?
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when was the last time you used mylookout? A few months ago, it couldn't find the phone for me, but in the last month, it is working.
rumpleforeskin said:
another vote for remotetracker.
It found my phone when left in a taxi
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Maybe I should try that one. Esp. for my son.
me said:
I came across this thread, and just downloaded (didn't install yet) the f-secure app.
A couple things I don't understand.
I believe I have read posts here about needing a "backup mobile number", for the company to send SMS to, if something suspicious is happening with the phone.
But what if one only has one mobile number, no backup? Is the app then useless? (Couldn't there be an e-mail, or a call to the landline?)
Also, I see that besides giving this app away, F-Secure sells "mobile secuirty". (I guess that means anti-virus and such. Is that really necessary? I have never used an AV on my phone before, and never had a problem with that AFAIK.)
With the post about the SMS to Finland (probably company headquarters), it occurs to me, they may give away this anti-theft app, in order to get your phone #, and send you text messages advertising their AV app? I wouldn't want to get spammed with text messages. Has that happened to anyone
using this?
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what about getting a google voice number? Then you could send it there.
badai said:
i've changed sim few time. fsecure only send sms to the assigned number (i know, i've itemized billing, and i can send sms internationally).
anyway, since it can never reply with correct location, and i've already figured out how to use remotetracker, i'm ditching it too. plus, fsecure will always pop up with it stupid checking for update while i'm using my phone. can't it check quietly?
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so fsecure you can't get a correct location?
nrfitchett4 said:
when was the last time you used mylookout? A few months ago, it couldn't find the phone for me, but in the last month, it is working.
Maybe I should try that one. Esp. for my son.
what about getting a google voice number? Then you could send it there.
so fsecure you can't get a correct location?
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see my previous post. it always say location not available.
I just tried lookout. I like it more than remotetracker because it's easier to use (the online "dashboard" makes it easy). The thing I hated the most about remotetracker (and other apps dealing with coded SMS) is that I would have to use an authorized phone and the proper codes to do whatever I need to do. At least with lookout, I can just go online and kill all my data and locate my phone.
I tested the "locate" feature. It found my phone in 2 minutes, but it was a little over one mile away from my phone!
The "scream" feature: It's a loud firetruck-type siren...it was a little bad because San Bruno, CA (one city away from me) had a horrible fireball accident a couple of days ago.
I guess it does its job. The locate feature is decent, but to think that it was off by 1-mile, it could make a difference in a big city.
Would anyone be able to tell me if there is an app like HTC Sense online that lets me see where my phone is at any time?
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Where's my Droid
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Try
samsungdive.com
redesignni said:
Would anyone be able to tell me if there is an app like HTC Sense online that lets me see where my phone is at any time?
Cheers
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Try Android Lost
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Try Android Lost
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+1
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The best & free solution is already on your phone. On your SGSII Go to Settings>Accounts & Sync. Create a Samsung account there if you haven't already. Then go to samsungdive.com to track your device, lock it, make it ring if lost.
what if it is stolen and the ROM has been changed?
Cerberus protects even starting without a Sim or a different one, and capture photos if wrong screen lock, call logs and SMS, remote wipe, tracking with GPS, phone wake and scream, popup message, apply extra lock, call phone even if you don't know the number, record calls, hide app, etc. can be SMS or Web activation, Cheap lifetime license and can be installed on 5 devices. Vendor built Sim checker before then two years ago and I can confirm that service is still running. can be moved to /system/app and survives factory reset, Basically only new flash ROM will kill it.
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With remote lock applied from Web site
Lol just saw can take photo on demand and email it, or if phone finder dismisses a popup request to return the phone.
Used push notification unlike Samsung solution which I found was battery killer
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You can give a try to
- Watchdroid
- Phone locator
- Lost Phone
- Wheres my Droid
- SMS remote control
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I didn't still find the right one ;-) and still searching....
Guys,
I have lost my Galaxy S1 earlier this year; had Samsung dive setup while the phone was lost, but did not help me.The phone was switched off by the time I realized the loss.
I guess, folk who get their hand on some ones phone, kinda know what to do with the Samsung beasts/beauties. Handovers to someone to wipe and flash, would be their best bet, I reckon. I am sory, not taking about all honest folks who would have return the devices to the actual owners.
Since then, have been searching for solutions which are wipe proof / flash proof but not successful. I have even checked android feature request sometime back ,found none.
Since then I have been thinking of this crazy idea that Google needs to implement as part of android OS.
Since we are registering phone / market app on the phone with Google with a gmail id, why can't Google associate the IMIE of the phone with that gmail id ?
If the registered user decides to sell / transfer the phone to someone else the registered user, the register user of the phone initiates the request for transfer with another gmail id / approves the request from another gmail id, without which all/most to the Google support Android features like maps, browser, market ,emails would not work.
i am not finished yet.., android should have a feature to re-confirm the ownership regularly every after a fixed duration of time, which can be user defined. As long as he/she is on data connection, the renewal is a silent process with the cached credentials on the device. If not, provide some window of time time reconfirm the ownership, failing which the lock the features down to just phone calls / limited set user defined and basic android operations. This could be a optional feature, rather than losing the phone and would opt for this feature and i wont mind reconfirming my phone ownership at regular intervals
If someone lost an android phone , he/she has to just change the registered gmail account password which would make if difficult to renew the ownership.If the phone has a data connection, using the registered Google account on the lost device,one should be able to push a message to displayhttp://media.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon9.gifed on the lock screen and home screen. Similar to ChromeTohone / SendToPhone feature.
Mandatory reconfirmation on every flash which are not Non -Wipe. On devices with NFC/ similar chips with writable memory, the ownership details can be written to it and will not be wiped off by wipe or flashing.
Also I would make a humble request to all devs and ROM chefs to keep their busy hands off this feature, if implemented. Ethical stuff
We all love/hate our android phones but won't want to loose them, please let me know you feedback.
PS : I have moved on since my SGS1 only after mouning the loss,but now owns a SGS2
androidlost is the best
thank you in advance. I have an LG g2 d802 which I purchased through Amazon. The phone was working perfectly in the US with AT&T. I then brought the phone to Venezuela where I tried using SIM cards from two different carriers. With both carriers I have the same problem. When sending or receiving an SMS message, whichever app I have set as the default app crashes with no way to send a report, just a dialog box saying the app crashed. I tried wiping the phone from the phone's settings user interface, as well as installing t w r p and wiping from that. I have tried 2 different firmwares for the 802 which I found on the internet, with different version numbers of the system, and still the same problem. Does anyone have any ideas of what I could still try at this point to get messaging working?
Thanks
Greg
wow! No one has any suggestions? Anything would be appreciated!
Can you logcat it maybe? Try to pull out your simcard, flash the right kk basebands flash the rom and reboot and reinsert the simcard again maybe it works normally then. I will think of some ideas and i will repost it here again.
Maybe you need to do some build.prop modifications to set the region or what. Does your phone says to which cellular network is connected?
thank you so much! The phone has no sim card, and you can't pull the battery. I did install wildcat and I'm seeing a lot of errors relating to the telecommunications database not being available. Now I'm seeing things like 08-22 12:01:32.128 E/DatabaseUtils(1583): ¿at com.android.providers.telephony.MmsSmsProvider.getThreadId(MmsSmsProvider.java:1332)
thanks again for the reply. I believe the phone was originally from Singapore as it had SingTel apps on it. I have tried flashing a few stockroms from other regions but nothing has worked. I'm going to have to read up about the KKbuild and build prop as those are new terms to me.
Update - I tried using build prop editor to change the locale region from u_s to venezuela and it keeps default thing back to u_s. Maybe this is part of the problem? I did use the phone on a_t_&_t network before bring it to venezuela.
wulsic said:
Can you logcat it maybe? Try to pull out your simcard, flash the right kk basebands flash the rom and reboot and reinsert the simcard again maybe it works normally then. I will think of some ideas and i will repost it here again.
Maybe you need to do some build.prop modifications to set the region or what. Does your phone says to which cellular network is connected?
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yes my phone does show the network it is connected to, and I can make calls just fine and I can even use the data connection. there are two carriers here in Venezuela for which I have SIM cards, with one of the carriers I am able to receive the carrier's SMS messages which show my remaining prepaid credit, but other messages from other sources crash the messaging app. With the other SIM card I have, even the messages from the carrier crash the messaging apps. So with one carrier it almost works.
I'm in a part of the country with very poor internet but in early September I will have good access and can download roms etc and can follow the instructions you gave me. Thank you! Greg
takoateli said:
yes my phone does show the network it is connected to, and I can make calls just fine and I can even use the data connection. there are two carriers here in Venezuela for which I have SIM cards, with one of the carriers I am able to receive the carrier's SMS messages which show my remaining prepaid credit, but other messages from other sources crash the messaging app. With the other SIM card I have, even the messages from the carrier crash the messaging apps. So with one carrier it almost works.
I'm in a part of the country with very poor internet but in early September I will have good access and can download roms etc and can follow the instructions you gave me. Thank you! Greg
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Ahh alright, sorry for late reaction. I will try to make some research on it when i have free time again cause school starts again and i still have to finish android projects could you quote me if you have a response? cause then i won't forget this thread and i will get an notification about it.
takoateli said:
Update - I tried using build prop editor to change the locale region from u_s to venezuela and it keeps default thing back to u_s. Maybe this is part of the problem? I did use the phone on a_t_&_t network before bring it to venezuela.
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i'm from venezuela too and had the same problem with the D800, download textra from the play store, make it your default SMS app, it's free, it works well and it will fix the problem
Gemc666 said:
i'm from venezuela too and had the same problem with the D800, download textra from the play store, make it your default SMS app, it's free, it works well and it will fix the problem
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Nice to see other people also coming up with fixes i didnt thought about an 3rd party sms app yet ;D.
@takoateli could you post an full logcat? Then i could look into it maybe. Use for the time the textra app which Gemc has introduced. I hope that your problem is going to get solved soon
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Nice to see other people also coming up with fixes i didnt thought about an 3rd party sms app yet ;D.
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hehe thanks, for some reason that's the only 1 that works btw, not even hangouts or handcent sms work
have 2 weeks trying to figure out why
Gemc666 said:
i'm from venezuela too and had the same problem with the D800, download textra from the play store, make it your default SMS app, it's free, it works well and it will fix the problem
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Thank you so much! That did it! What's interesting is that before installing that app my phone would not automatically get the APN information from the sim cards. I had to enter it manually. After installing the app now the phone gets the APN information from sim cards. So not only does installing that app fix the problem with messaging crashing, but it restore is the proper interaction with the sim cards. Obviously that app contains something that's missing from the stock l_g firmware.