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XDA-dev guys, We need help.
Ok, We have right now, a Kitchen working with a couple of cool enhancements, we have acomplished to install, from the kitchen, some commercial programs, like Resco Explorer 2003, SPB Pocket Plus, and others. And we want to make this kitchen available to the public, so everyone can download their custom ROMS with these cool programs, but of course, for legal purposes, we can't just post them like that, already registered versions of programs.
We have an idea, basically what we want is a the text field provided under each program, (kind of the same as thing as the "NBF header string" that is at the bottom of the regular kitchen). This text entry would be each user's own serial (entered by the user). This would create a registry entry file which will put the fields in and then merge it into the rom, in that way the user would be able to use the programs and would not have to worry about the Serials anymore.\
In short, A text field in the webpage, under each program choice, so the user can enter his/her own serial number. With this text, it will generate a registry entry automaticly in the ROM generator, so The program is registered from the ROM, and the user is free to use its own program directly from the ROM
We have the progs working fine from the ROM, but we are using our own serials, we want each user to enter its own, so everyone is happy, and we don't get in trouble giving away software that is not ours for free.
Any help would be appreciated.
So what exactly do you need help with?
i'm a webdesigner with knowledge of php so maybe i can be of asistance.
Rico
exactly what I want is how to create a text field where people can enter their serial and this entry will generate a registry file that will go to the creation of the ROM, and to register the programs installed.
Sounds like you need a form with multiple text-fields targeting a page where these textfields are converted to registry entries.
maybe we could mns about this. that would probably speed things up.
or mail me @ [email protected]
Rico
The textbox feature in the current kitchen can put the literal typed string anywhere in the registry. Have you looked at how it works?
If you need more, you could write some php to do that. You'd still need permission to distribute the included programs though. Easy way to get this permission is to become a point of sale: you would point people to the place to buy it if they did not already have a serial. Could even make you some money through these affiliate programs.
Thanks guys. kenofalte, i might need ur help with php. I'm not a good programmer. I'll try to do it myself but in case i get lost.
alex
Most SPB and Resco programs come with the Trial versions that you can use for 14 days etc. that can later have a registration code entered... can't you setup your custom kitchen ROM with these different Trial versions instead and then whoever burns their own ROM can pick and choose what they want, burn it, and when setup and finished, they can enter their own code then? Just a curiousity. I am not sure about the permission to distribute the programs then? Either way, just a thought.
Regards,
mS
that's another option. i just wanted to make it so that they can register it during the "cooking" process. otherwise everytime they do a hard reset they have to re-register the product.
alex
Alex
just mail or msn me at the previous mentioned e-mail.
We will make it work.
Rico
I'm after a quick and easy way to delete a specific registry key - preferably from a command line/shortcut.
This has to be done on a number of PPCs for work (always the same registry key) and I need an easy way to distribute it so I don't have to walk users through it each time - ie a single shortcut or executable would be best.
no-one knows? WM5 if that makes a difference..
MortScript
leyton01 said:
no-one knows? WM5 if that makes a difference..
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If you tell me what key and data you want deleted I can write you a small app that can do it (silently).
-Jwrightmcps
Use MortScript and Autorun.exe on a SD card. Just inserting the card on the device will run the script and change the registry for you.
Other option is to create a cab file with the registry change in it, and then setup a batch script to automatically install it on the users device when their PDA is connected to their PC. Here is something I put together that may help:
http://www.jaml.com/CreateApp/
Jwrightmcps - thanks for the offer, I will PM the details
Markvan - will check out the link. Looks like it will be handy for a couple of other projects I have. KISS principle definitely applies for execs and technology - if I can email them a cab that can run a couple of things offsite users shouldn't be able to screw it up too bad (they will find a way no doubt)
I'm been working on this for a little bit now since I found all the existing apps don't work well in WM6 or don't work well in a custom rom. This is a open source program (as all of mine are) and I welcome help/donations/and comments. Bug reports will be helpful in this first release as I certainly consider this a alpha release at the moment.
What it does:
once setup at every boot it compares your IMSI number with the one stored, if it's a match it plays a little sound and that's it. If it's not a match, it locks the device and displays your email and a request to please get it back to you. It also send you the "new sim's" imsi and phone number via a SMS.
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SecurIt 1.1 (BETA) by Shadowmite
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TODO: Build in SMS rule filtering thus adding remote control
Lock out activesync connections?
Protect the datafile from being deleted, or keep a backup in registry.
NOTE: THIS DOES NOT WORK WITH CDMA PHONES!
Version 1 (BETA) Instructions:
This security applicatioon can run loaded normally via a cab file to your device, or via being cooked into a rom. It will require your phone able to run unsigned code (most roms at this site are fine in this regard). Furthermore it does require the .NET Framework so it's really for WM6 devices, WM5 will be more tricky and is left up to the user to figure out how to make it all work.
When first run the program resides in \windows and must run from there. If you ran the cab installer it will have created a shortcut for you into the Programs folder.
The application comes up with a form showing you the current device imei, imsi, and phone number. You need to enter a password (needed to disable security programmatically or change SIM info), a email you can be reached at my a "finder" of your phone, and a SMS phone number you'd like alert messages sent to. Once done click set. Finally, click Enable security.
The application then sets itself up to autorun upon boot and if the SIM matches, it plays a little sound file to let you know everything is fine. If the sim is found to have changed, it will lock down the device until a password is entered. Meanwhile it shows your contact email and has sent the alert sms to you with the new imsi and phone number.
If you enter the proper password the program will take you to the settings screen where you can reenter the password and make changes to the settings and resave them. Simply clicking enable security without making changes will keep the settings as they are.
Clicking disable security will remove the autorun entries and remove the data file the programs keeps at \windows\SecurIt.dat.
The data file keeps 5 lines, MD5 hashes of your imei, imsi, password, and also your email and sms phone number as plain text. Thus stealing this file does not enable retrieving the password or easy changing of the imsi. Deleting this file however would remove security. Furthermore activesync will still link to a locked device. Knowledgable people about these devices could therefore defeat this security, however it's goal is to keep the casual theif / finder out of the phone.
This program is a work in progress and I welcome help with modifications to it as well as bug fixes. Source can be found at:
svn://www.shadowmite.com/shadowmite/SecurIt
To cook this into a rom, you need 3 files. 2 of them need to be generated when you first install it like normal and set it up. Copy the SecurIt.dat from \windows and the SecurIt.lnk from \windows\start up to your rom as well as the SecurIt.exe file. It's that simple. Enjoy!
History:
1.1: Fixed all kinds of bugs causing security to crash with various sims
1.0: Initial release
If you like my work and would like to help insure I continue to have time for this, please consider a donation to: foglemATshadowmiteDOTcom
Shadowmite, thnx for starting an "opensource" project for this. I havent tried it yet, will try once I reach home.. But I had a cpl of suggestions\questions:
1. Why do u keep email and sms phone no in plain text instead of encrypting them as well?
2. Instead of storing config in a file, store the config in registry which lessens the chances of someone finding out about the prog and deleting the file to disable security.
nice work as usual...
shantzg001 said:
Shadowmite, thnx for starting an "opensource" project for this. I havent tried it yet, will try once I reach home.. But I had a cpl of suggestions\questions:
1. Why do u keep email and sms phone no in plain text instead of encrypting them as well?
2. Instead of storing config in a file, store the config in registry which lessens the chances of someone finding out about the prog and deleting the file to disable security.
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number 2 is in the TODO list...
#1) we could encrypt them as long as it's not a one-way hash like the first 3 lines, however those are the bits of data we don't mind the theif/finder seeing afterall as they are the means to get the phone back to its rightful owner. I suppose we could hide them but the phone number will be on his next bill for sending it a SMS and the email is displayed on the locked screen.
And as walshy said, #2 is certainly on the todo, but locking our activesync connections is a bigger concern and I believe completely doable.
#1) we could encrypt them as long as it's not a one-way hash like the first 3 lines, however those are the bits of data we don't mind the theif/finder seeing afterall as they are the means to get the phone back to its rightful owner. I suppose we could hide them but the phone number will be on his next bill for sending it a SMS and the email is displayed on the locked screen.
And as walshy said, #2 is certainly on the todo, but locking our activesync connections is a bigger concern and I believe completely doable.
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ok, and sorry abt the #2, I missed the TODO part..
Keep up the good work..I myself was thinking abt making smthing similar but now I think I'll drop my idea to make a different one, as this seems to be a better idea (opensource is always better )..
I hope I can make some contribution to the code if possible..
shantzg001 said:
ok, and sorry abt the #2, I missed the TODO part..
Keep up the good work..I myself was thinking abt making smthing similar but now I think I'll drop my idea to make a different one, as this seems to be a better idea (opensource is always better )..
I hope I can make some contribution to the code if possible..
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What advantages does this give over "Mobile Justice"..another similar util...my rom has Mobile Justice cooked with it which makes it hard to remove.
famewolf said:
What advantages does this give over "Mobile Justice"..another similar util...my rom has Mobile Justice cooked with it which makes it hard to remove.
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If you like that software and have it working properly use it. Maybe you'd like to post in every rom thread asking why not use some other rom while you're at it?
Shadowmite said:
If you like that software and have it working properly use it. Maybe you'd like to post in every rom thread asking why not use some other rom while you're at it?
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I'm not using Mobile Justice which is WHY I asked what advantages YOURS had over theres for COMPARISON. If it had additional features I was going to recommend it for addition into XM6R3 (the next release of the current rom), but with an attitude like yours I won't bother with further review.
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I'm not using Mobile Justice which is WHY I asked what advantages YOURS had over theres for COMPARISON. If it had additional features I was going to recommend it for addition into XM6R3 (the next release of the current rom), but with an attitude like yours I won't bother with further review.
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you dont bother with a review but bother with a slagging ... take your "fame" somewhere else...
Ok, for starters mine isn't based on assuming every device has a GPS built in (while technically being a Trinity owner I should go that route). I instead base mine on nicely locking down the interface so far with a polite message to get the device back to the owner. Furthermore mine is trivial to build into a cooked rom which was my main reason to write it. I tried every security app out there over the last weekend without any of them working "properly" and figured the best way to get one is to write one. In addition mine is open source, mobilejustice is not.
Now then, you said you're not using it... But the last post said you had it cooked in? WTF? Need some help deciding what you use and don't use?
my rom has Mobile Justice cooked with it which makes it hard to remove.
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I'm not using Mobile Justice which is WHY I asked what advantages YOURS had over theres for COMPARISON.
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Now then, you said you're not using it... But the last post said you had it cooked in? WTF? Need some help deciding what you use and don't use?
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1) The rom I currently have installed comes with Mobile Justice preinstalled.
2) I have not configured and am not currently using Mobile Justice
3) The author is currently taking suggestions for software to include in the next revision of their rom.
What part of any of those statements are you having difficulty comprehending?
Perhaps you and the gentleman from Melbourne should both grow up and quit reading an insult where one was not intended.
Well than back on track... Give it a try and see what you think. I really want feedback from folks outside the USA as I believe it will not properly catch your phone number of the "thief's sim" however if the sms works it should still get the phone number to you obviously.
The GPS coord. request feature is a nice one and will have to go on the todo list.
well, well, fights apart, what drew me to this app over the other apps was the opensource nature as mentioned by Shadowmite because I, like shadowmite, was not happy with the other apps doing things properly or just because I wanted somethings to be done differently..
@shadowmite:
1. I have a few ideas of getting "coordinates" and sending to the original owner even on non-GPS devices ..Maybe we can discuss some things later on once the basic structure of the app is ok.
2. Couldn't find the source code of the app on ur site..(May be am just one dim-witted dim-sighted git ) Please point me to it..
You'll need svn to get it, windows users: http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.n...vn/TortoiseSVN-1.4.4.9706-win32-svn-1.4.4.msi
svn://www.shadowmite.com/shadowmite is my master repository for all projects.
cool, I do have TortoiseSVN installed at home..Will check it when I go back..
Will it sustain a hard re-set ? Dont think so.
@shailesh, for sustaining hard resets, it has to be cooked into the rom, pointed out by shadow on post 1..
I don't know if something else can be done for this (writing into ext rom is one option but that is not possible for most devices now)
Sounds like a great piece of software. And open source is a great idea too.
I did tried several others like this one (Eye on the thef, Ultimately Theft Alert ...) some features were still missing :
First an autoconfig method :
As already said, whatever your storage methode is (file or registry), you 'll everytime lose the configuration when a hard-reset is done on the device. The only one possibility i can imagine is to store your "installer" program on extended rom with the ability to add an external config (encrypted) file as a parameter.
Installation will be handled by the autoconfig process, using this external file. Config will probably needs to be stored on extended rom too. It's not peace of cake to create an extended rom, but easier that cook a rom.
This feature won't be very helpfull if there is no way to generate a config file automaticaly base on settings done by user : kind of export process.
On standart start/soft-reset, your program will run as it does actually, but when a hard-reset, is proceed, programm will reinstall unattented and will still be running after boot... No way to easily remove it. Bad effect is that it will also be difficult to update programm/config.
Secondly, i'd like to have the a way to "format"(or encrypt) a memory card remotely.
Do you thinks those could be part of your TODO list ?
Will try it on few next days and i'm ready to help you translating it in french
hi shantzg001,
thanks for replying,
My mistake, did not read the whole text.
Hi,
I'm running all registered (NON-CRACKED) software on my ppc, which is why I need to do this. I frequently upgrade my roms, and my biggest pain point is entering the registration number for the ~15-20 apps on my ppc.
I'm copying settings/etc over, most often by exporting the registry keys for that software/reimporting it into the new rom - but the registration key typically doesn't get copied over.
Is there a different place in the registry that I should be looking at for that?
Thanks,
-mark
diomark said:
Hi,
I'm running all registered (NON-CRACKED) software on my ppc, which is why I need to do this. I frequently upgrade my roms, and my biggest pain point is entering the registration number for the ~15-20 apps on my ppc.
I'm copying settings/etc over, most often by exporting the registry keys for that software/reimporting it into the new rom - but the registration key typically doesn't get copied over.
Is there a different place in the registry that I should be looking at for that?
Thanks,
-mark
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use your registry editor to search for the registration codes and then export those settings. you can then cab it or package into an oem to cook into your roms.
fredcatsmommy said:
use your registry editor to search for the registration codes and then export those settings. you can then cab it or package into an oem to cook into your roms.
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or export in a reg/xml file and put in your Autorun on SD Card (read more).
wfg
starbase64
Unfortunately there is no real solution to this.
To avoid cracking registration codes are usually well hidden some times in the registry and some times in files.
The place and method of hiding the keys is different for each program.
Finding out were and how the key is stored requires a degree of reverse engineering on the protection mechanism and is basically the beginning of creating a crack for the program.
Normally producing a full backup of the device would preserve registration but it is impossible to restore full backup over different ROMs.
It's weird that different 'export settings' from different programs but from the same author don't automatically capture the registration code. i.e. I use sbsh pocketbreeze and phoneweaver (great programs, btw..) - pocketbreeze automatically restores the registration code when I export the settings/import it later. phoneweaver doesn't...
Definately a pain - even w/ mymobilier (which I use to type the serial numbers from my laptop into the phone..)
-mark
Hello everyone ..
I've been here for a while, and been using alot of apps from the great team of developers here. And been using a lot of great ROMs, thanks to all cooks!
I did something, and it showed me we do need a special program.
I tried to install an app, then uninstall it, and a very funny thing happened,
for example, it asked for 1536 kB to install , but it installed on more than that, and after uninstalling it freed less than what it already took, and even less than what it saied it will take.
I guess it's because of the registry and some un-removed files.
and here comes the idea of the program
AN INSTALLER/UNINSTALLER app
i think it should do the following
1- browse for the cab
2- i think it might need to use the builtin installer, but it should keep track of all the files and registery entries that the program will take
3- keep record of all the installed apps
4- allows the user to uninstall the app, again, it might need to use the builtin unistaller, but after it is removed, it ensures that all the registery values are removed and all the files are deleted
so what do you think? is this possible? any one can do it for us?
If this is a request of an Application, PLease Modify Your Title with some thing like this :
[REQ]Windows Mobile UnInstaller
Short answer: Forget it.
Middle answer : There are slightly improved uninstallers available, e.g. in SKTools
Long answer: The default installation routine keeps a pretty good track of what is installed with the default setup routines, and usually uninstalls it just fine (only exceptions: fonts and sometimes Today plugins. Which belongs to the things SKTools' uninstaller does better.).
The trouble is with those files and registry entries that aren't created by default installation itself. There are two ways for that to happen. Either there's a "setup.dll", which allows user extentions wherever the default routines wouldn't be flexible enough, usually used for setting migrations (updates) or selections immediately after installation (like which language packs should remain resp. extracted from an common archive). Or the application creates them on first run resp. whenever required (like when the user modifies settings, a game is saved, entries are created, ...). For both of them, any unistall helper has a really bad job to relate them to the program. The best it could do would be to remain in background, look for changes (which would take a lot of resources because WM doesn't offer as nice system hooks for e.g. new registry entries as the desktop Windows) and assign them to the currently active program. Which might be wrong whenever a program in background creates/modifies something. And then there's the problem "What to remove?" when it comes to uninstall. You wouldn't be that happy when it deletes all text documents, contacts, registry tweaks, ... you created with a program, would you? And sometimes you even want to keep the settings, e.g. when updating (since WM5, the old version is always removed before the new one is installed).
A developer can create special uninstall actions in the setup.dll, which usually are way better than any uninstall tool could try to be. You often experience that when there's a query like "Keep settings for update?" appears on uninstall. But that's up to the developers...
thank you guys very much for answering ..
as a result .. i get that if i want something better .. go buy a sktools license
and there is nothing better than that ...
right?
try Pocket Mechanic too
MemMaid is the best!
I vote for SKTools. Has the best uninstall function ever.