IS GPS Intermediary Driver broken in new AKU's? - P3600 General

Since the release of WM5 AKU2 onwards, MS has provided a GPS Intermediary Driver (GPSID) which allows GPS signals to be shared between applications.
This is controlled by the GPS Control Panel (which has to be enabled in the registry in some devices). The CP allows the Program Port to be specified, thus any app wanting a GPS signal can be set for the Program Port.
This worked fine on my N560, and in the release ROM of my SPV M700, allowing me to use CamerAware (a British speed camera warning app) and TomTom at teh same time. Without the GPSID, each program has to use teh COM9 hardware port, to the exclusion of other programs.
Since the new official HTC ROM, and also with Mun_rus's custom ROM, the GPSID doesn't work. The GPS HArdware port continues to function OK, and I can continue to use 1 program at a time with that, but any attempt at using the Program port fails to find a GPS device.
Apps that self-configure like GPS Tuner and GPSInfo fail to detect a GPS device on any but the hardware COM9 port, and TTN doesn't even list the Program port in it's available connection (which it was always OK with before). I've tried all teh Program Port COM settings to no avail. I do have the gpsid.dll file in Windows.
Has anyone else noticed this, or can anyone check? I can't think it's a local software issue as it has persisted through hard resets and new ROM's, and it's not hardware because the GPS Hardware port works.

is it normal to take 10 min to make a connection, on my external GPS, it take only 1 min o less.

alexk said:
is it normal to take 10 min to make a connection, on my external GPS, it take only 1 min o less.
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It can take 10 minutes to get a first fix from cold, but subsequent fixes are much faster.
That said, it's never taken more than 4 minutes for mine to get a FFFC. One limitation of the Qualcomm Chipset is that it doesn't cache positions as much as SirfStar chips, so a cold start happens more frequently.

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GPS Control Panel

Not sure if this was addressed before (GPS is too short of a word for the search engine to return any results on).
Does the GPS Control Panel actually do anything on the Hermes? I read that it is supposed to allow more than one software to access the GPS at the same time. I've never actually been able to get it to do anything at all though.
I have a bluetooth GPS. I paired it, and opened an outgoing COM port (COM2). Telling GPS software to access that port directly works just fine. However, if I use the GPS control panel to use COM2 as my hardware port, COM9 as my "Program Port," and tell my programs to use COM9 instead, it just sits there, never even activating the GPS.
In summary:
BT-GPS -> BT on TYTN -> Outgoing COM2 -> GPS Control Panel -> COM9 software port -> GPS software
That above there is not working. Am I missing something?
(Secure connection is unchecked, and letting the software controll GPS automatically IS checked)
Same problem here. Tomorrow when I get some time I'm going to fiddle with the registry and see what's up. I'll post back with my results.
Ninja1
it allows you to run 2 gps application at the same time ie tomtom and memory map for example it usually hdden as unless you are running 2 gps apps its not needed
I would like to run 2 or more GPS apps at the same time. This thing just doesn't seem to actually do aything. GPS never turns on.

Help, no GPS!

Having updated the ROM via HTC's website ( version 1.23.405.103 ) on my P3600 and installing Trinityhacks, I still cannot get the GPS icon to appear ( let alone the GPS itself) in the SETTINGS;SYSTEM menu, it only began to appear in the CONNECTIONS menu after i installed Trinityhacks.
I have 2 GPS programs (one of which is TOMTOM) which are installed and working perfectly, the only problem is that the GPS is not, and i can't figure out why! Please help,
Thanks
You don't need the GPS Setting CPL unless you want to change the default settings, which for most apps shouldn't be necessary.
Make sure in TomTom, you set the GPS prefs to Built-IN GPS Receiver (if you are on V6.03) or Other NMEA Receiver (NOT Other NMEA Bluetooth Receiver) if you use any earlier version.
COM port must be set to COM9 and Baud to 57600.
Once those are set, the GPS screen within TomTom should show a small revolving icon in the upper right part of the screen. Within about 30 seconds, the main screen should change from No GPS Device, to Waiting for a valid Signal. At that point you need to go outside with a clear view of the sky for a 1st fix.
If you continue to get the No GPS Device message, it suggests either the ROM didn't update properly, or there is a hardware fault.
Thank you for your help, It now all works after a hard reset, and have been playing with the GPS ever since. Great fun.
The icon is no problem and it not being there wont affect you much,
If you do want it, the easiest way to display it without modifying the resistry is to install an tweaking application like ' Trinity Hacks v2'. this is an excellant wee application that lets you easily make all kinds of settign adjustments without going into the registry.
If you do a search on the trinity forums its easy to find.
Good Luck!!

gps settings

ei mates
apologies if this has been posted before. i was wondering what gps settings you guys use which in your opinion optimizes the gps application. i did read that comport 4 is normally used for the programs. may i ask what you guys use for the hardware? i noticed that setting comport 4 for BOTH software and hardware takes absolutely ages to get sat fixes. at the moment i'm using comport 4 for the programs and comport 5 for the hardware. anyone with better settings? and what's the baud rate that you use?
thanks and cheers
Hi there,...
I am not sure what you exactly requesting, but I am playing with the standard settings of WM6 and have a fix within 30 sek (maybe a little more sometimes).
This means:
GPS programmport = 4
GPS hardwareport = *not set* / baud 4800
By the way... this with the Radio Rom 1.50 !!! Think this also might be important. If you use older ROM you should this about flashing Radio maybe!
Find according ROMs here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319993
Due to ActiveSync within every 2 days quickGPS is always up to date (mmh,.. ok most of time let me say)
Example using TT 6.030
Getting into car... activate TT (and GPS with it) and setting the target location.
Then I mount this Ameo in the car holder... this approx takes over all 30-60 sek. after this time TT has the fix, I can start navigation and startup.
Ofter heard about problems with the GPS, but I can not confirm.
Not exactly what you like to know, but maybe my experience is a little useful.
The problem could also be, that the chipset is not the Sirfstar one. So it could have some difficulties with connection in forests, among tall buildings etc...
thanks for the response. on what i'm after is the settings you put in your gps. i didn't upgrade my unit to wm6 nor do i have plans of doing so. with that i still use comport 4 for the programs and so far comport 5 seems to be give me around 30-45 seconds to get a sat fix. i was wondering if there are other comport settings for the hardware (coupled with the baud rate) that the others use...and works well with them.
thanks!

GPS seems dead

Hello All:
I've had my X7501 for about 4 months now. I use the GPS very little but decided to test drive some aviation software today and was unable to get it to receive a position signal from the GPS.
I've used Delorme Street Atlas 2008 for handhelds, GPSgate and VisualGPSce. All would find satellites and derive a position at some point.
They only thing different from the last time I used the internal GPS is that I dropped the device from desk height. It was in a metal case and was in standby at the time. It fired right up and seems to be operating normally.
Any other software installs have had nothing to do with GPS.
Now when I launch any of these programs, the GSM LED flashes slowly, but a signal is never acquired by any of the programs, at least for 10 minutes. That's when I figure if it's going to get a signal it would have.
Before I try a hard reset I thought I'd ask if anyone has any ideas?
For those forum members who are familiar with GPSgate, my manual settings are com5 @ 38K. If I run the wizard, when GPSgate gets to com port 5 during the search, it says it's in use and skips over it.
Thanks in advance, Ron
try in settings>external gps
use software port none
Hardware 5 baud 38K
and untick the box.
reboot and try to connect again.
Tried it with those settings for another 10 minutes. No joy.
Try Program 1 / Hardware 5 /19200bps/ Auto manage. Took me forever to find that as mine would not work with the settings given by others here.

The GPS problem thread

OK, plenty of tom tom, igo, naviman, laviman threads. This one is for general GPS issues...for example goolemaps and igo are moaning about lack of GPS, ive tried turning of bluetooth thinking that thats taken up some come ports etc but no joy.
I've reset and can get it working from time to time so not total failure
Thoughts, suggestions etc?
dogbreath said:
OK, plenty of tom tom, igo, naviman, laviman threads. This one is for general GPS issues...for example goolemaps and igo are moaning about lack of GPS, ive tried turning of bluetooth thinking that thats taken up some come ports etc but no joy.
I've reset and can get it working from time to time so not total failure
Thoughts, suggestions etc?
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settings->GPS->software(first tab)->define a com port, your choice
->hardware (second tab)->leave this port at none
->advanced (third tab) -> CHECK, auto manage
in google maps, set software to let windows manage your gps automatically.
if this solves the problem, we can talk about igo, if not, it's something else
Thanks for taking the time to reply, all my settings are as you stated...after a reboot it works, even in the lounge watching tv
strange, works sometimes and then doesnt.
Noticed someone has the same on the igo thread
to me the gps Hardware works absolutely fine. I am shocked in seeing that MN7 reports 7 satellites inside the house, even if not stable, and that HDOP outside building is an amazing 1.1 meters with 9 satellites being received. quickgps is also great, BTW.
The only issue (see navigon thread) is that Navigon doesn't keep the gps port alive....but i found a workaround. Works perfectly with TomTom, but TomTom doesn't want to sell you TT7 so....byebye TomTom
I have observed some flakiness with GPS when you let programs just figure out the settings for themselves.
For example, TomTom would keep aquiring and then dropping the GPS fix every few seconds - when there should have been a good 11-satellite lock.
After I configured all apps to force them to use COM4 at 4800bps (as configured in Settings-> System -> "External GPS Settings"), I've had no more problems.
J
ILikeFish said:
I have observed some flakiness with GPS when you let programs just figure out the settings for themselves.
For example, TomTom would keep aquiring and then dropping the GPS fix every few seconds - when there should have been a good 11-satellite lock.
After I configured all apps to force them to use COM4 at 4800bps (as configured in Settings-> System -> "External GPS Settings"), I've had no more problems.
J
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This SHOULD be the way to configure. what happening is:
by doing the settings->GPS, OS takes over the actual GPS hardware, and channel the data to a virtual software port (the port on the first tab, say port 4).
by default TomTom is set to "use built-in GPS" which is the actual hardware, so TomTom and Windows Mobile are fighting over control of the actual hardware, the only way to resolve is to time-slice (share) the hardware-> you get 1 second use of it and i get 1 second use of it. this is why if you set to use com4, it will actually work BETTER.
google maps and live search were developed closely with windows mobile, when you set to use "auto gps" in these two applications, these to software actualy passes the handle to windows mobile operating system, and let the OS auto configure. so even though on the surface those two apps are showing auto-manage (despite the similar naming from the settings->gps 3rd tab), they are actually letting the OS auto-manage, and behind the scene, the software is pointing to the software port (com 4) you have set in the settings->gps.
Can't change hardware port
I am able to change hardware port and baud rate on settings-external gps, but those do not get saved. When I open settings-external gps again, hardware port always goes back to none/4800. My IGO8 still seems to get a lock relatively quickly those
I've noticed that disabling the A-GPS solve the "repeated get fix / loose fix" issue. Also, disabling the GPS logging with Schaps' advanced utilities helps the GPS work smoother.
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I've noticed that disabling the A-GPS solve the "repeated get fix / loose fix" issue. Also, disabling the GPS logging with Schaps' advanced utilities helps the GPS work smoother.
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These are the standard settings on my german 1.14 ROM.
clandestino_usr said:
I've noticed that disabling the A-GPS solve the "repeated get fix / loose fix" issue. Also, disabling the GPS logging with Schaps' advanced utilities helps the GPS work smoother.
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What tool do you use to disable A-GPS?
You can use Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool (http://www.touchxperience.com/).
The relevant settings are under the 'GPS' section.
You need to have .NET Compact Framework 3.5 installed for the app to work.
Hi
There is an application called GPSTest which I have used before and it works on the HD.
I have used this also in the past on a Tytn II that was no behaving right with TomTom (turned out it was TT misbehaving again!)
I have version 1.04 from http://www.chartcross.co.uk/products/WM00002_details.asp
This is freeware.
When I run it the result is COM4 & 9800 Baud.
Regards, D
changing GPS configuration
I guess the question I have is whether it is worth doing? Right now I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port, and A-GPS enabled. If I disable A-GPS, and change settings to hardware port (e.g. com4/9600), does my gps performance improve?
Thanks
I have a big problem with my GPS.... no GPS find on my device !
I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port 4800 bauds & GPS in auto mode by WM
Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool :
- assisted GPS : disabled
- log file : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt
- old log file : \windows\GPSLogFileBack
- Max. log file size : 0
GPSTest : GPS setting in auto, but impossible to find the GPS in my touch HD !
and the same if I try with TT7 or google map !
Please help me
dj_gigi said:
I have a big problem with my GPS.... no GPS find on my device !
I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port 4800 bauds & GPS in auto mode by WM
Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool :
- assisted GPS : disabled
- log file : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt
- old log file : \windows\GPSLogFileBack
- Max. log file size : 0
GPSTest : GPS setting in auto, but impossible to find the GPS in my touch HD !
and the same if I try with TT7 or google map !
Please help me
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Just to make sure, are you trying it while outside with a clear view of a good chunk of the sky?
Petrov.
dj_gigi said:
I have a big problem with my GPS.... no GPS find on my device !
I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port 4800 bauds & GPS in auto mode by WM
Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool :
- assisted GPS : disabled
- log file : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt
- old log file : \windows\GPSLogFileBack
- Max. log file size : 0
GPSTest : GPS setting in auto, but impossible to find the GPS in my touch HD !
and the same if I try with TT7 or google map !
Please help me
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I almost have the same problem. Just got my HD this morning and wanted to try GPS, but there is even no Settings=GPS icon. When I tried the Google Maps, it did not find any GPS hardware. This was not a problem of being in a clear sky, there is something wrong as no GPS is recognized to start with. Would anyone be able to point us to the right direction please.
Regards,
michael_r said:
I guess the question I have is whether it is worth doing? Right now I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port, and A-GPS enabled. If I disable A-GPS, and change settings to hardware port (e.g. com4/9600), does my gps performance improve?
Thanks
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Anybody can help with this? Thansk
hmm, tried gps test had gps one minute and not the next
Solution , work-around?
I had the same problem, in 5 nav apps, gps hardware drops every few secs and come back again.
Tried reg edit (buffers, com ports, etc) portforwarders, standing on my head, nothing.
Solved by doing full back-up, hard reset. all was well. put back-up back, without reg offcourse, still worked fine.
just had to do some work because of lost reg settings, like settings for some progs..
Hope this helps.
Cheers.
zSpinner said:
I had the same problem, in 5 nav apps, gps hardware drops every few secs and come back again.
Tried reg edit (buffers, com ports, etc) portforwarders, standing on my head, nothing.
Solved by doing full back-up, hard reset. all was well. put back-up back, without reg offcourse, still worked fine.
just had to do some work because of lost reg settings, like settings for some progs..
Hope this helps.
Cheers.
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Dude, this backup...you talking ROM re-install or backup of data like contacts and then hard reset?

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