OK, plenty of tom tom, igo, naviman, laviman threads. This one is for general GPS issues...for example goolemaps and igo are moaning about lack of GPS, ive tried turning of bluetooth thinking that thats taken up some come ports etc but no joy.
I've reset and can get it working from time to time so not total failure
Thoughts, suggestions etc?
dogbreath said:
OK, plenty of tom tom, igo, naviman, laviman threads. This one is for general GPS issues...for example goolemaps and igo are moaning about lack of GPS, ive tried turning of bluetooth thinking that thats taken up some come ports etc but no joy.
I've reset and can get it working from time to time so not total failure
Thoughts, suggestions etc?
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settings->GPS->software(first tab)->define a com port, your choice
->hardware (second tab)->leave this port at none
->advanced (third tab) -> CHECK, auto manage
in google maps, set software to let windows manage your gps automatically.
if this solves the problem, we can talk about igo, if not, it's something else
Thanks for taking the time to reply, all my settings are as you stated...after a reboot it works, even in the lounge watching tv
strange, works sometimes and then doesnt.
Noticed someone has the same on the igo thread
to me the gps Hardware works absolutely fine. I am shocked in seeing that MN7 reports 7 satellites inside the house, even if not stable, and that HDOP outside building is an amazing 1.1 meters with 9 satellites being received. quickgps is also great, BTW.
The only issue (see navigon thread) is that Navigon doesn't keep the gps port alive....but i found a workaround. Works perfectly with TomTom, but TomTom doesn't want to sell you TT7 so....byebye TomTom
I have observed some flakiness with GPS when you let programs just figure out the settings for themselves.
For example, TomTom would keep aquiring and then dropping the GPS fix every few seconds - when there should have been a good 11-satellite lock.
After I configured all apps to force them to use COM4 at 4800bps (as configured in Settings-> System -> "External GPS Settings"), I've had no more problems.
J
ILikeFish said:
I have observed some flakiness with GPS when you let programs just figure out the settings for themselves.
For example, TomTom would keep aquiring and then dropping the GPS fix every few seconds - when there should have been a good 11-satellite lock.
After I configured all apps to force them to use COM4 at 4800bps (as configured in Settings-> System -> "External GPS Settings"), I've had no more problems.
J
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This SHOULD be the way to configure. what happening is:
by doing the settings->GPS, OS takes over the actual GPS hardware, and channel the data to a virtual software port (the port on the first tab, say port 4).
by default TomTom is set to "use built-in GPS" which is the actual hardware, so TomTom and Windows Mobile are fighting over control of the actual hardware, the only way to resolve is to time-slice (share) the hardware-> you get 1 second use of it and i get 1 second use of it. this is why if you set to use com4, it will actually work BETTER.
google maps and live search were developed closely with windows mobile, when you set to use "auto gps" in these two applications, these to software actualy passes the handle to windows mobile operating system, and let the OS auto configure. so even though on the surface those two apps are showing auto-manage (despite the similar naming from the settings->gps 3rd tab), they are actually letting the OS auto-manage, and behind the scene, the software is pointing to the software port (com 4) you have set in the settings->gps.
Can't change hardware port
I am able to change hardware port and baud rate on settings-external gps, but those do not get saved. When I open settings-external gps again, hardware port always goes back to none/4800. My IGO8 still seems to get a lock relatively quickly those
I've noticed that disabling the A-GPS solve the "repeated get fix / loose fix" issue. Also, disabling the GPS logging with Schaps' advanced utilities helps the GPS work smoother.
clandestino_usr said:
I've noticed that disabling the A-GPS solve the "repeated get fix / loose fix" issue. Also, disabling the GPS logging with Schaps' advanced utilities helps the GPS work smoother.
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These are the standard settings on my german 1.14 ROM.
clandestino_usr said:
I've noticed that disabling the A-GPS solve the "repeated get fix / loose fix" issue. Also, disabling the GPS logging with Schaps' advanced utilities helps the GPS work smoother.
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What tool do you use to disable A-GPS?
You can use Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool (http://www.touchxperience.com/).
The relevant settings are under the 'GPS' section.
You need to have .NET Compact Framework 3.5 installed for the app to work.
Hi
There is an application called GPSTest which I have used before and it works on the HD.
I have used this also in the past on a Tytn II that was no behaving right with TomTom (turned out it was TT misbehaving again!)
I have version 1.04 from http://www.chartcross.co.uk/products/WM00002_details.asp
This is freeware.
When I run it the result is COM4 & 9800 Baud.
Regards, D
changing GPS configuration
I guess the question I have is whether it is worth doing? Right now I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port, and A-GPS enabled. If I disable A-GPS, and change settings to hardware port (e.g. com4/9600), does my gps performance improve?
Thanks
I have a big problem with my GPS.... no GPS find on my device !
I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port 4800 bauds & GPS in auto mode by WM
Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool :
- assisted GPS : disabled
- log file : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt
- old log file : \windows\GPSLogFileBack
- Max. log file size : 0
GPSTest : GPS setting in auto, but impossible to find the GPS in my touch HD !
and the same if I try with TT7 or google map !
Please help me
dj_gigi said:
I have a big problem with my GPS.... no GPS find on my device !
I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port 4800 bauds & GPS in auto mode by WM
Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool :
- assisted GPS : disabled
- log file : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt
- old log file : \windows\GPSLogFileBack
- Max. log file size : 0
GPSTest : GPS setting in auto, but impossible to find the GPS in my touch HD !
and the same if I try with TT7 or google map !
Please help me
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Just to make sure, are you trying it while outside with a clear view of a good chunk of the sky?
Petrov.
dj_gigi said:
I have a big problem with my GPS.... no GPS find on my device !
I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port 4800 bauds & GPS in auto mode by WM
Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool :
- assisted GPS : disabled
- log file : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt
- old log file : \windows\GPSLogFileBack
- Max. log file size : 0
GPSTest : GPS setting in auto, but impossible to find the GPS in my touch HD !
and the same if I try with TT7 or google map !
Please help me
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I almost have the same problem. Just got my HD this morning and wanted to try GPS, but there is even no Settings=GPS icon. When I tried the Google Maps, it did not find any GPS hardware. This was not a problem of being in a clear sky, there is something wrong as no GPS is recognized to start with. Would anyone be able to point us to the right direction please.
Regards,
michael_r said:
I guess the question I have is whether it is worth doing? Right now I have software port enabled to COM4, no hardware port, and A-GPS enabled. If I disable A-GPS, and change settings to hardware port (e.g. com4/9600), does my gps performance improve?
Thanks
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Anybody can help with this? Thansk
hmm, tried gps test had gps one minute and not the next
Solution , work-around?
I had the same problem, in 5 nav apps, gps hardware drops every few secs and come back again.
Tried reg edit (buffers, com ports, etc) portforwarders, standing on my head, nothing.
Solved by doing full back-up, hard reset. all was well. put back-up back, without reg offcourse, still worked fine.
just had to do some work because of lost reg settings, like settings for some progs..
Hope this helps.
Cheers.
zSpinner said:
I had the same problem, in 5 nav apps, gps hardware drops every few secs and come back again.
Tried reg edit (buffers, com ports, etc) portforwarders, standing on my head, nothing.
Solved by doing full back-up, hard reset. all was well. put back-up back, without reg offcourse, still worked fine.
just had to do some work because of lost reg settings, like settings for some progs..
Hope this helps.
Cheers.
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Dude, this backup...you talking ROM re-install or backup of data like contacts and then hard reset?
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how do guys to activate the gps connection when using google earth in athena?
i tried many times and just can't open the gps.....
how to do the gps port setting?
thanks!
parkertseng said:
how do guys to activate the gps connection when using google earth in athena?
i tried many times and just can't open the gps.....
how to do the gps port setting?
thanks!
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I was just playing with Google Maps myself. If I figure it out I'll post the answer. Meanwhile, anyone know how to get it to work?
http://www.htcwiki.com/page/Configure+Smartphone+for+Google+Mobile+Maps+with+Bluetooth+GPS
Found this info but don't have time to test it. If you becide to give it a try please post any notes and results.
I am looking for the same answer.
There appears to be lots of posts on the net around registy edits to configure bluetooth gps devices and also some on needing other gps software to "activate" the 'software' port first so that google maps can see this port.
I only have 3dtracking and gm on my ameo. 3dtracking only works if you configue it to the hardware port (port 5) .
So I'm looking for a tweak that allows gm to see either the hardware port or software port without assistance from anther program.
I am not concerned about having multiple gps software running and as the s/w port is proving tempremental seemingly I would be quite happy for a fix to work directly with port 5.
Any ideas ?
I gave up on google maps and used the Live! Search app instead.
This actualy seems better than google maps, and works directly to com5 so no need for messing around.
If you get GM working , let us all know though!
Same problem here - but use Live! Maps instead, works firsttime and very well..
Seems that the google maps app doesn't interrogate the WM5 GPS applet very well, and there's no menu options to force it. Maybe there's a regkey you can change, or some way to tell it where the GPS is, but until someone finds it, MS will continue to get my viewing...
Pyrofer said:
I gave up on google maps and used the Live! Search app instead.
This actualy seems better than google maps, and works directly to com5 so no need for messing around.
If you get GM working , let us all know though!
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I also have given up on Google Maps. Installed Live Search and it seems to be better and worked directly with Com4 on my x7500. I noticed that when going at 100 miles per hour, the maps have problems loading fast enough though. ;-)
Live Search is nice and even though I kept Google Maps loaded on my phone, I'm using Live Search more when TomTom doesn't meet my need. I like the aerial views of Live Search and traffic map.
It seems to me the GPS w/ the Advantage does not want to play nicely with WM5 GPS applet. Even when I change the software port, nothing I have recognizes it through that port. Only ports 4 and 5 seem to work. Com port 5 seems to be the true hardware port.
Everyone seems to have had problems the first time around with Google Maps. Thats because it looks for a GPS signal through com port 2, and only com port 2 (can't be changed). Of course, this was never made public knowledge, so it took people a bit to figure out.
So until someone provides a software fix for either, we're out of luck.
GPS Possible Soution.
First, my control panel GPS settings are COM4 for software, COM5 for hardware and the Auto checked.
I use Pharos GPS / Ostia. If I load Ostia and use com5 the gsm lite blinks green then yellow then green then yellow. I think the yellow means the gps port is on???
Ostia get it's satellites then works as expected.
THEN...... I turn the Ostia GPS off. Change the port to COM4 and it works just fine, however the blinking changes from yellow then green to just green.
If I open Ostia with COM4 I can't get GPS to work. It won't even let me use the port. If I change it to COM5, it blinks green then yellow, gets the fix, then change to COM4, it blinks just green, then eveything is fine.
I don't think the Control Panel GPS Settings work unless the GPS is turned "on" or "activated" by using the hardware port first.
Is there someway to "activiate" it manually?
As far as google maps, COM2 is not forced. I used it on my Tytn with a bluetooth GPS on COM8 for the software port.
hammermedia said:
As far as google maps, COM2 is not forced. I used it on my Tytn with a bluetooth GPS on COM8 for the software port.
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Interesting, google maps worked for on Com 8? I had a Hermes (8525) as well, but it only worked on software com port 2. I then read that most others were only able to get it to work on com 2 as well. Of course, you had to tweak the registry in order to even access the GPS panel. I did read about someone with an Ipaq w/ built in GPS who had it working on com port 6, but then again, perhaps his hardware port was com port 2.
Was com port 8 your hardware port or your software port, and was the other port set to, then? Just trying to get an idea for what worked and didn't.
On the Advantage, I'm not even sure if changing the software port to emulate another port for the signal in the GPS panel even does anything. So far, my guess would be no.
I have the same problem with all of you. The GPS of X7500 works fine for the programs "Destinator" and "GPS Tuner" but it doesn't work for "Google Maps" in any port and combination of ports. Any solution from Google or HTC?
Having updated the ROM via HTC's website ( version 1.23.405.103 ) on my P3600 and installing Trinityhacks, I still cannot get the GPS icon to appear ( let alone the GPS itself) in the SETTINGS;SYSTEM menu, it only began to appear in the CONNECTIONS menu after i installed Trinityhacks.
I have 2 GPS programs (one of which is TOMTOM) which are installed and working perfectly, the only problem is that the GPS is not, and i can't figure out why! Please help,
Thanks
You don't need the GPS Setting CPL unless you want to change the default settings, which for most apps shouldn't be necessary.
Make sure in TomTom, you set the GPS prefs to Built-IN GPS Receiver (if you are on V6.03) or Other NMEA Receiver (NOT Other NMEA Bluetooth Receiver) if you use any earlier version.
COM port must be set to COM9 and Baud to 57600.
Once those are set, the GPS screen within TomTom should show a small revolving icon in the upper right part of the screen. Within about 30 seconds, the main screen should change from No GPS Device, to Waiting for a valid Signal. At that point you need to go outside with a clear view of the sky for a 1st fix.
If you continue to get the No GPS Device message, it suggests either the ROM didn't update properly, or there is a hardware fault.
Thank you for your help, It now all works after a hard reset, and have been playing with the GPS ever since. Great fun.
The icon is no problem and it not being there wont affect you much,
If you do want it, the easiest way to display it without modifying the resistry is to install an tweaking application like ' Trinity Hacks v2'. this is an excellant wee application that lets you easily make all kinds of settign adjustments without going into the registry.
If you do a search on the trinity forums its easy to find.
Good Luck!!
Hi all,
I have a problem... The GPS on my Athena worked, but I tried to fix it I wanted to enable change the power mode to Trickle, so I installed SirfDemoPPC , changed the output mode to SIRF binary, and finally decided not to change the power mode, so I just hit Cancel, and changed the protocol back to NMEA.
Now I can't connect to the GPS anymore, Tomtom can't see it, and I don't know what is going on. I tried to connect SirfDemoPPC to all COM ports without success...
Please help!
Silviu
silviu.h said:
Hi all,
I have a problem... The GPS on my Athena worked, but I tried to fix it I wanted to enable change the power mode to Trickle, so I installed SirfDemoPPC , changed the output mode to SIRF binary, and finally decided not to change the power mode, so I just hit Cancel, and changed the protocol back to NMEA.
Now I can't connect to the GPS anymore, Tomtom can't see it, and I don't know what is going on. I tried to connect SirfDemoPPC to all COM ports without success...
Please help!
Silviu
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There are two answers: Try looking in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308606
Alternatively, try doing a hard reset (after backing up your data). The suggesiton is that setting GPS software to Sirf disables the GPS temporarily.
Don't use SirfDemo anymore - test out the GPS using GPSView or GPS Tuner.
apd said:
There are two answers: Try looking in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308606
Alternatively, try doing a hard reset (after backing up your data). The suggesiton is that setting GPS software to Sirf disables the GPS temporarily.
Don't use SirfDemo anymore - test out the GPS using GPSView or GPS Tuner.
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Hi,
Don't worry about using SirfDemo anymore - I swear I'll never touch this piece of sh*i again (provided I get my GPS back to life).
I tried hard resetting, the problem is still the same. I will try removing the battery and letting the PDA lose its current. I read this *might* put the GPS receiver back into its initial state.
I also tried to contact the guy who made SirfTech, and try to understand what the error messages mean.
Silviu
OK, I removed the battery for a night and now the GPS receiver came back to life... Problem solved
Something tells me I won't try any soon to change anything in the receiver
Regards,
Silviu
i did the same: removed battery for overnight
but GPS still not fixing
neo_strut said:
i did the same: removed battery for overnight
but GPS still not fixing
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Try the solutions in my post (above - #2)
neo_strut said:
i did the same: removed battery for overnight
but GPS still not fixing
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Hi,
What exactly is the problem: the GPS can't get a fix, or your programs (Tomtom etc.) cannont connect to the GPS?
In my case the problem was that the programs couldn't access the GPS anymore.
If your programs see the GPS but can't get a fix, it's a different problem.
Hope this helps,
Silviu
GPS can't fix
silviu.h said:
Hi,
What exactly is the problem: the GPS can't get a fix, or your programs (Tomtom etc.) cannont connect to the GPS?
In my case the problem was that the programs couldn't access the GPS anymore.
If your programs see the GPS but can't get a fix, it's a different problem.
Hope this helps,
Silviu
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hi, thanks for reply...
the GPS can't fix at all after 20 minutes....of course outdoor under clear sky
I'm using M700 Glofiish with built in GPS SiRF Star III chipset
I also tried using GPStuner as recommended above...still can't fix, not sure if it's software or hardware problem
one thing, i used SiRFtech...
1. there are signals from "Find Port & Baud"
2. Protocol: NMEA
3. Baudrate NMEA 0 Effective 0
4. Errors FE=0 PE=0 OE=0 QOE=0
???
any idea?
Thanks so much
Try the free GPSView program, that is the best for getting a FIX I find.
Make sure you use QuickGPS to download the data first as well.
Hold it up above your head and wave it at the sky?
I think there might be a problem with your unit, there are several people on the Eten forum who had this problem and had their M700 replaced. See http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=6586 and generally speaking http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showforum=42
Silviu
try reflashing the radio on the device, GPS firmware is all controlled by that, so flash it and cross your fingers
Hi everyone,
I'm experiencing some troubles w/ my X1 since I bought it :
Google Maps works perfectly when set to "Managed by Windows" in the GM's config, but when I try to set it manually (I've set it to COM2 in the Windows' config), it bugs -- I mean, it says "Initializing GPS" then it freezes.
With other GPS softs, it doesn't work at all (TT7, Igo8), either on "internal" or on "external NMEA ...". Port splitter doesn't change anything.
Can anyone help me ?
Thx
ive never changed the port from mine and so far it worked perfectly fine.
was there any particular reason why u changed the port??
Thank you for your answer
I've changed the port beacause it is "none" by default, and the goal was to use Igo8 navigator on my X1 (which asks for an explicit COM port to connect the GPS).
im sure there is a solution somewhere in this forum but if you are not really set on using igo, then i would recommend tomtom 7.910. works well on my x1a.
X1 works flawlessly with iGo.
What you tried to change was the GPS hardware comport.
Since this port is bound to the chipset and internal, "none" is the correct setting for windows.
On the other hand, the GPS program port (COM4 by default) can be adjusted, but doesn't need to.
iGo works with COM4 and 4800 baud settings. However, be sure NOT to activate "A-GPS" in "AdvancedConfig" program!
Greetings,
MiK
Yes, I know that
I've read many topics about GPS on Xperia on xda-dev, and that's why I tried many tricks, but no one succeeded :-(
I've tried to set it to "none", to COM1,2,3,4,7,... , with and without A-GPS enabled, w/ and w/o "let windows manage it".
I've tried Tomtom 7.915.9196, 7.450.9028, 7.910.9185, and 2 versions of Igo 8 (set on "auto", then on "COM1,2,3,4,...").
I've also tried to use Port Splitter, as explained in the tutorial, but it did nothing (except bugging).
That's why I was wondering if someone just had an idea ?
Gobountz said:
Thank you for your answer
I've changed the port beacause it is "none" by default, and the goal was to use Igo8 navigator on my X1 (which asks for an explicit COM port to connect the GPS).
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are we talking about the first tab of teh GPS settings (should be programs)? thats default com4. the second tab is set to "none" which is OK i guess since we dont have an external gps.
igo, google maps, tomtom, and whatever else should be working fine. at least they all usualy do.
did u try a hardreset allready?
MiK CISA said:
X1 works flawlessly with iGo.
...However, be sure NOT to activate "A-GPS" in "AdvancedConfig" program...
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Can you be more specific about that? What could be the reason? Thanks!
Gobountz said:
I've tried Tomtom 7.915.9196, 7.450.9028, 7.910.9185, and 2 versions of Igo 8 (set on "auto", then on "COM1,2,3,4,...").
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TomTom works fine using the "integrated receiver option" (let windows manage gps).
did you do a hardreset? tryit, sometimes it solves strange problems.
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did you do a hardreset? tryit, sometimes it solves strange problems.
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Thanks for all everyone.
I have to say ... I'm stupid Actually a hard reset solved the situation
I can't guess what was wrong, but it's OK now
Just a precision on my previous problem :
The hard reset solved the problem, but I found what caused the misfunction of the GPS : WM6VoIP.cab.
Yep, my Xperia is a SFR (Vodafone) brand-version, which does not include the SIP by default. So I compared the GPS system before and after the install of the .cab : no way to make the GPS work just after.
I wonder what exactly is the cause of the problem, I'm currently watching in the .cab to make a safer one.
To be continued ...
btw, thats quite old news that the VoIP bugs the GPS of our phone.
guess we all just have forgotten.
Hallo,
I have a problem and hope that someone can help me out. I already tried all fixes from the forum.
I have a Palm Treo Pro (German Version). My Navigation Software worked without problems in the past. last week I urgently needed the GPS and it did not function. I tried Google Maps, and GPS Test Utility. But it only says: GPS Starting up.....that all.
I attached my old bluetooth GPS receiver and uppps fix within 10 second. When I use internal one (on COM 4, 4800 baut - but tested all others) it does not work.
I have a invisible shield attached to my device. Does this block the GPS?
Does anyone have any idea?
Well, a pseudo idea, as I have this happen all the time....but not every single time and i can't figure out what triggers it.
Anyways, I unclick the "Use GPS" then re-click it, and that sometimes helps. Sometimes, I just exit and restart the program.
Seems to be a Treo thing ! Some apps appear to have trouble starting the GPS where some others don't.
mine hv problem too with the GPS
btw what is the default value for the GPS, so it can work with garmin xt
GPS program port = .....
GPS hardware port = ...
Baud rate = ....
should i check "manage GPS auromatically" option ...??