PC GPS receiver on Wizard...possible? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

I've been given an older gps receiver that connects to a pc via usb. The driver used in that instance is a usb to serial driver and ends up connecting to one of the COM ports. I was wondering if it may be possible to connect the receiver to my Wizard. I've got an adapter that will enable me to at least plug the receiver into my phone, but I'm not really sure how to get the phone to recognize the receiver.
Does anyone know of an app that will allow me to use the mini usb port as a serial port in any way. I know this may be a long shot, but wanted to try. I can try to write something myself in C# if need be to intercept the messages, but I don't really know how to receive those messages through a COM port on the phone. Thanks!!!
By the way, I'm using an unlocked 8125, running WM6 Most Beautiful.

The problem is actually the Wizard doesn't have a USB Host so the RS232 to USB adapter you might be thinking of won't work here. As for getting it to work with the PC, perhaps if the PC is providing the GPS as a service?

I see. I've got it working on the PC, but could probably write something to get it to the phone, but might be a little pointless if I'm already connected to a laptop.
So, it looks like the only way to connect a peripheral to the Wizard is through Bluetooth. Think that is a fair assessment?

DuceEnd said:
I see. I've got it working on the PC, but could probably write something to get it to the phone, but might be a little pointless if I'm already connected to a laptop.
So, it looks like the only way to connect a peripheral to the Wizard is through Bluetooth. Think that is a fair assessment?
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Yup. There are a few threads about that also.
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Use OBD Reader for WM6

Hi,
I have an SX-66, and I used to used OBDGauge with W2003SE, the thing is I upgraded to WM6, and the program runs, but I get an error:
Error: Failed to open serial port
Does anyone know how to open a serial port under WM6?
I love this program and it works so well, I would hate to downgrade just to use it. I know it works for WM6, because a buddy of mine has the HTC Tilt and he uses the same program and it works fine for him.
If it is of any help, I use a ELM 323 connetion to serial.
If I figure it out, I will let you guys know how I did it.
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Also for those of you using WM6 on your SX66 with a BT GPS, I was able to connect mine when I used the BroadcomCorp_BT1.6.0.600 update.
I now connects flawlessly. Only thing is the connection takes a while to sync, like maybe 45-60 sec. I went from Miami, FL to Orlando, a 3 hour drive and it did not disconnect once. It also creates an extra Bluetooth file on my settings, but allows me to use the command manager to turn it off or on, so thats fine with me.
Do you connect your ODB reader via bluetooth?
No I connect it through data cable?
OBD WM6
If your PDA supports serial port hardware, you should open the same COM port as before? You can also use Bluetooth to read OBD data from your car : http://www.obdkey.com
Ok so everything is up and ready.
I have an ELM323 connecting to my Sx66. I am able to communicate beautifully with my Cars ECU now. Already have seen a few thing that need adjusting like my timing.
Well anyways. As soon as my wife gets home, I am going to take pictures. I will send you guys the looks. The good thing is I found the original data cable on ebay from Cingular/Siemens. It is USB and Serial, but it has an adapter to also charge it. I was worried, because my cradle did not have serial, but I know you could get an serial/usb adapter (but someone told me it would not work this way).
Anyways, upcoming plans are to do a little tweak, the same one from Youtube, called the Aximizer.
Also, one more thing are GSM attennas worth their money?
o_0
Ok....
So I am not liking something with OBDGauge, like the fact that it is a pain in the rear to get to work on my car. When I replied, it worked, now it is not. I have to diddle daddle with it until finally it works, takes 5 minutes (not very practical). I have been reading the forums and alot of people have problems with OBDgauge. I am going to install something else: If anyone you know of any programs let me know, must support WM6.
OK a heads up.
For those of you that want to do a little project you will need 3 things to get your blueangel to work with the OBDII reader in your car:
1. a serial null modem: you can find one at radio shack
2. serial cable data cable, a converter serial to usb will not work.
3. and an OBDII with elm 323 or 327, also autoenginuity has a great one package with a badass program that only works with their reader.
I am in the process of making a program with my brother-in-law for this to work with the ELM devices as we have notice that most programs are limited and do not feature things like oil pressure and miles per gallon.
I wish I knew how to create a dyno program, but I will leave it upto others to come.
I only know of two programs that work well with WM6 under the ELM that are free and they are: OBDGAUGE and ScanTest or MicroOBD.
anyways I do not know much about making a program for WM6, but my brother-in-law does. I am going to try my best with him to develop something, when I do, I will put out here for you guys to use.
I would like some new tips if possible so that we do not have to struggle too much.
sorgeangel said:
I know it works for WM6, because a buddy of mine has the HTC Tilt and he uses the same program and it works fine for him.
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How does your buddy connect his tilt to the OBDII reader, is there some bluetooth serial adapter involved? I have a Kaiser (and can't believe that the Tilt has a serial port or USB host) and am currently looking for exactly the same thing to do.
Any updates of apps för OBD reading?
Or just the same old same old apps?
OBDGauge and MicroOBD
Zoolooc said:
How does your buddy connect his tilt to the OBDII reader, is there some bluetooth serial adapter involved? I have a Kaiser (and can't believe that the Tilt has a serial port or USB host) and am currently looking for exactly the same thing to do.
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I would like to know also. I have a bluetooth ELM327 device that connects fine to my Palm Lifedrive, but when I try with the Tilt running WM6 I get the "failed to open serial port" window. Anyone got any ideas? Thanks
[edit] I did some more searching and found this post series at ATT's wireless site: http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/HTC/HTC-Tilt-bluetooth-sync/td-p/1408041
QUOTE: Did you create an outgoing COM port on your phone? You then have to go into ActiveSync's options on the desktop (File-Connection Settings) and check the checkbox that says "Allow connections on " and select that port # in the pulldown menu. At least, that's how I do it in XP.
sanglee wrote:
I think I'm having the same problem... basically, I follow the instructions and still cannot sync. Here is what I see AFTER I pair the devices:
1. On PC (XP w/ all the updates), Bluetooth--> QuickConnect --> Serial Port does not have Tilt device in the pull down menu and when I "Find Device" it cannot find the device (remember, tilt and PC already paired)
2. On PC w/ ActiveSync4.2, I tried to CONNECT using "Connection Setting" and cannot find the Tilt.
3. On PC MyBluetoothPlace, I only see the following "services",
a. Dial-Up
b. Network Access Point
c. Voice Gateway
4. On Tilt, I only see the following services;
a. Wireless Stereo
b. Serial Port
c. Dial Networking
d. Headset
Help!
END QUOTE. Admittedly, this is originally dealing with ActiveSync, but I did discover the "New Outgoing Port" setting inside the Settings/Bluetooth folder. Click on COM ports. Select the device you wish to add (mine is called CBT). Hit next and select a COM port (I am using 5). I am going to test in the truck. Eureka! It works! Make sure the com port you select in OBDGauge preferences is the same you assigned to the BT ELM interface, and it should connect and start scanning. Hope this helps.

Use Diamond as GPS dongle to a Mac *SOLVED, solution posted*

Hi!
im just wondering if there is a possibility to use my HTC Touch Diamond as a GPS dongle to my Macbook?
Anyone know if there is a app for that or something?
//Linkus
Solution! Further way down
Okey guys!
it was a long time since i wrote here, but i actually solved the problem!
as mr-pill recommended i used Franson GpsGate
I installed the program with the .CAB to my memmorycard not the internal storage.
after installation i went through the wizard and i chose only internal GPS not garmin or bluetooth.
After that you got the option how you whant to sync with the other units, i choose bluetooth, make sure you have you phone paired with you macbook.
the in you program hope for that it supports bluetooth GPS.
and your done!
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try this
http://users.skynet.be/hofinger/GPS2Blue.html
davidbnkn said:
http://users.skynet.be/hofinger/GPS2Blue.html
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thanks i think it works
just tried it a little bit on work but ill be back with more info later tonight
linkus said:
thanks i think it works
just tried it a little bit on work but ill be back with more info later tonight
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Nope nothing i cant get it to work :S
how shall i connect my device to my macbook? Bluetooth? USB cable?
Whan i choose BT it just says that BT not enabled even if it is :S
Very strange? IF USB shall i take Storage och Active Sync?
Keep us posted, I want to do the same thing except with Windows XP. If you do get it figured out would you mind posting how you did it? Thank you in advance
The only advice I can give you is: If doing via bluetooth you need to make sure the program is looking at the correct COM port otherwise it will never "see" the gps.
gerlbaum said:
Keep us posted, I want to do the same thing except with Windows XP. If you do get it figured out would you mind posting how you did it? Thank you in advance
The only advice I can give you is: If doing via bluetooth you need to make sure the program is looking at the correct COM port otherwise it will never "see" the gps.
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you bet on it! if you manage to get it to work please post here also
try gpsgate. that worked for me with TP + MbP
Okey guys!
it was a long time since i wrote here, but i actually solved the problem!
as mr-pill recommended i used Franson GpsGate
I installed the program with the .CAB to my memmorycard not the internal storage.
after installation i went through the wizard and i chose only internal GPS not garmin or bluetooth.
After that you got the option how you whant to sync with the other units, i choose bluetooth, make sure you have you phone paired with you macbook.
the in you program hope for that it supports bluetooth GPS.
and your done!
linkus said:
Nope nothing i cant get it to work :S
how shall i connect my device to my macbook? Bluetooth? USB cable?
Whan i choose BT it just says that BT not enabled even if it is :S
Very strange? IF USB shall i take Storage och Active Sync?
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I had some fun with GPS2Blue yesterday, but finally got it working. As well as getting all programs to look at the right port, you need to create an incoming bluetooth serial port on the phone for it to work - you can easily create an incoming port on the PC easily (you'd expect to want your phone to access services on the PC, not the other way round, right?), but as I understand it's not quite so easy on the phone.
Managed to find these instructions and got it working perfectly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499896&highlight=gps2blue
EDIT: This will work for all GPS applications that uses a serial GPS receiver, not just those that explicitly support bluetooth receivers (I got hold of some very old free software and it works fine). The bluetooth linkis handled by Windows/MacOS and all the app sees is a serial port.
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BLCollier said:
I had some fun with GPS2Blue yesterday, but finally got it working. As well as getting all programs to look at the right port, you need to create an incoming bluetooth serial port on the phone for it to work - you can easily create an incoming port on the PC easily (you'd expect to want your phone to access services on the PC, not the other way round, right?), but as I understand it's not quite so easy on the phone.
Managed to find these instructions and got it working perfectly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499896&highlight=gps2blue
EDIT: This will work for all GPS applications that uses a serial GPS receiver, not just those that explicitly support bluetooth receivers (I got hold of some very old free software and it works fine). The bluetooth linkis handled by Windows/MacOS and all the app sees is a serial port.
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Has it been designed to use the USB port for input?

Hey since I am not a dev, I do not know if the USB port could accept incoming connections. Since linux is here now on it, I would think there may be a way to tap into the USB port and rig up some sorta USB input device to use on the G1. Imagine a controller. =D Just wondering if its been reported if the G1 could have the ability or if hardware wise its totally blocked off. Thanks. =)
well the wired headset has a microphone on it for calls, so at the very least you could plug in a USB microphone
i'm no hardware dev though, so i could be wrong!
Mysticales said:
Hey since I am not a dev, I do not know if the USB port could accept incoming connections. Since linux is here now on it, I would think there may be a way to tap into the USB port and rig up some sorta USB input device to use on the G1. Imagine a controller. =D Just wondering if its been reported if the G1 could have the ability or if hardware wise its totally blocked off. Thanks. =)
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Search the forum for "usb host" and "usb otg". Short answer is G1 cannot act as a usb host even though the cpu supports it. Reason is it is not wired to supply power to a usb slave device.
jashsu said:
Search the forum for "usb host" and "usb otg". Short answer is G1 cannot act as a usb host even though the cpu supports it. Reason is it is not wired to supply power to a usb slave device.
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Well.. if its just power, there are those USB hubs that you have to plug in AC power, I would think that would solve that issue there.
jashsu said:
Search the forum for "usb host" and "usb otg". Short answer is G1 cannot act as a usb host even though the cpu supports it. Reason is it is not wired to supply power to a usb slave device.
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well, theoretically, could a non-phantom powered microphone work then? if you got a decent small mic, you'd be able to record live music and such on the phone with pretty good quality. might be impractical but it would be interesting to see if it could work!
Isn't the microphone plugged to a non-usb pin on the HTC connector, like the headphones ?
Edit :
Yes, it is.. See diagram here : http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
Not sure how the headphones are plugged in, but I would assume if someone has a miniusb device, Im sure debian would detect it in the reports. I cant rem the command I used in ubuntu to get info but would be interesting to see if something can be done.
It dawned on me... Anetshare turns the G1 into a Wifi peer to peer. So along with Bluetooth abilities. Which Who said that the Bluetooth couldnt be used to accept BT Keyboard/Mice or so? Same with Wifi, Using Wifi to maybe have a app on your PC use ITS controller, sending the data via Wifi (So the G1 is a server) and translating those into usable input commands? I mean I know I use that Joy2Key program in WinXP to map my joystick to keyboard/mice commands. Im sure something could work on the G1. Thoughts?
you mean like this?
ubernicholi said:
you mean like this?
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Well id say thats a start. Seems like nothing new has been up with it tho? Cause even if a BT Keyboard worked.. That would be a step in the right direction, hell could even play games a lil easier too.

Using Windows Mobile phone as a USB WiFi receiver?

I was wondering if this is possible. I've heard of people using ICS Control to turn it into a hotspot, but I no longer have a working WiFi card. I just got a new computer with Windows 7 and all I can do is use the built-in Internet Connection Sharing that comes with WinMo until I get a long ethernet cable to wire from my router to my room.
So I was wondering if it's possible to use the phone's ability to receive WiFi to share that connection with the computer. I'm sure there's some way for it to be done. Any suggestions?
I have the same question
same situation here.
After some searching, I've found a program called "Serialtunnel" and "wmtunnel" that is supposed to do just that, however I cannot find any working download link...
Let me know if you find anything.
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
Will work as wifi to usb, making your phone a WIFI usb adapter. I use it with my desktop when hooked to my TV in the livingroom, rather than a 35 foot cord.
Its as simple as= plug in phone, start Wmwifirouter , touch wifi to usb button.
Battery charges while working so it doesn't kill it.
phone's ability to receive WiFi to share that connection with the computer can only be obtained if your phone allows to do so. check out the official site of your phone developrs. there will definitly be some considerations about this
Two solutions
Found two programs that do just this, both work on Windows Mobile (and unfortunately not on Symbian), but are supposed to do just what you're looking for.
ICS Control
Serial Tunnel
IF anyone figures out how to get this (converted) to run on a Symbian device... Thanks.
Anyone?
Bumping to re-ask question.
WIFI
i didt understand
ravichandrabr said:
i didt understand
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I'm looking for a program that can "Wifi to USB" on a symbian (Nokia) phone.
In other words, I want to use my phone as a wireless adapter for an old pc without wifi.
would prob get more luck asking in a symbian forum

[Q] MicroUSB to ethernet ?

I've an HTC Desire HD and can connect via wifi, I could connect via cable and tether a PC via the phones 3G signal etc However, I was wondering if, in the absence of USB connectivity and no wifi or 3G, would a USB to RJ45 cable be made to work? That is, having a wired ethernet connection to the phone's microUSB port. Obviously you would need an ethernet driver on the phone.
Now I don't have an immediate need for this, it's more a case of 'I wonder ...... '. I've read that USB host mode is not possible but not sure how/if that would negate being able to driver ethernet over the microUSB port. Anyone know for sure?
Ta
Dave
dvhttn said:
I've an HTC Desire HD and can connect via wifi, I could connect via cable and tether a PC via the phones 3G signal etc However, I was wondering if, in the absence of USB connectivity and no wifi or 3G, would a USB to RJ45 cable be made to work? That is, having a wired ethernet connection to the phone's microUSB port. Obviously you would need an ethernet driver on the phone.
Now I don't have an immediate need for this, it's more a case of 'I wonder ...... '. I've read that USB host mode is not possible but not sure how/if that would negate being able to driver ethernet over the microUSB port. Anyone know for sure?
Ta
Dave
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I think the answer is not without usb host, and the cable would need to be more like a dongle with a nic in it.
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mrkite38 said:
I think the answer is not without usb host, and the cable would need to be more like a dongle with a nic in it. ...
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You're right of course. Doh ..... (on my part). But then you can get things such as this ... http://www.saverstore.com/product/2...NIC-1427-100--USB-to-RJ45-Network-connection- ... (first one I found - may be cr*p ).
Dave
I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
It requires a Linux router with enough guts to do it, Tommato/DD-WRT running, and one must fiddle with it. Essentially one uses the router to share the internet USB connection. It is probably the cheapest and most supported route.
LargePrime said:
I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
It requires a Linux router with enough guts to do it, Tommato/DD-WRT running, and one must fiddle with it. Essentially one uses the router to share the internet USB connection. It is probably the cheapest and most supported route.
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That would be lovely though .. Ill try it later ...
Let us know how it goes.
Back in the day I had an HP iPaq that didn't have WiFi built in, but I could connect it to a wired network via a small adapter that functioned as a nic. Hypothetically you could find or fashion such a device to function over mini-USB, and then write some drivers to get it to share data with an attached computer. Just my 2c.
If you want to write drivers, you have a whole new level of complexity.
USB port of a router is a known cheap solution.
I'd have to second the OP's idea, as it does have merit. Hopefully the work on getting the USB Host working can show some results in the future....
However, I'm in the same boat, where I have a Nook Color running CM7 I use as a tablet, and an N1. I'm also on business in China a lot, and I prefer to use the NC in place of a laptop, although in some places wireless is flakey or non-existent. In those scenarios I'd rather not use the N1 as an access point using the 3G network to run data, as it adds up quick, even when using China sim cards.
It's these situations where a means to connect an android device to a physical ethernet is desirable, whether by USB or by wireless to a dongle.
This is the one device I'm testing out now is a CQR-980 from Cnet. You'll have to google it, because I can't post links.
The reason for this unit is it's size (its 3.52 (L) x 2.32 (W) x 1.06 (H) inches), and full support for setting up a secure wireless environment. If it works right, I will pre-configure it as an access point with WPA2, and it should be able to be plugged into any ethernet port in a hotel or otherwise, and I should get an IP on the NC or N1 via wireless.
If anyone else has found a better way to make this sort of setup work, would love to hear of it. The fewer devices I have to bring the better. Yet this is still better than dragging even a small laptop around.
I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
The Phone got to have specialized hardware to enable it to use just that USB to RJ-45 cable.
But in my experience, I could be wrong about it. Don't know what the R & D guys will cook up next.
This could make the job of having RJ45 connected to USB?
http://www.cnetusa.com/eng/CQR-981.php
Also this seems interesting:
http://www.euogo.com/usb-lan-adapte...to-rj45-adapter-for-android-tablets_p420.html
Will it work with an ASUS Transformer (Honeycomb 3.0)?
I have looked around a lot on the web for the MicroUSB to RJ45 Ethernet on a Droid, no luck. I have small hardware devices that have embedded configuration servers that are only accessible via TCP/IP Ethernet RJ45 ports and I normally use my netbook for that. I thought it would sure be cool to be able to access those embedded servers via my Droid2G for example, and get rid of the netbook. It seems like the phone can do almost everything else.
I've read about USB host mode etc, and the mini dongles with NIC's in them seem more promising, but I guess there has not been a big enough need for the guru's to go after it. Aparently it may available on the Android 3.x tablets but no able to backport to Android 2.x? Verizon will likely never upgrade my D2G OS.
dvhttn said:
You're right of course. Doh ..... (on my part). But then you can get things such as this ... http://www.saverstore.com/product/2...NIC-1427-100--USB-to-RJ45-Network-connection- ... (first one I found - may be cr*p ).
Dave
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What if you used this but also used a usb extender so you could plug in the phone cable to the usb to rj45.? Then all that would be left would be the drivers.
With the exception of cybdroid's situation I think that a little wireless ap would work great. I have a little netgear wgr101 that works great.. you connect it to a rj45 port in the motel, and then wifi from the phone or laptop.
The reason i'm on this tipic, is I was thinking rj45 to rj45 on a copier. Then I can set same subnet, and ip range with a crossover cable(or ipx on on the copier). Then I wouldn't have to use a full laptop to troubleshoot...
now i'm not an apple fan but redpark has something for the i- series of apple products to do exactly what i'm curious about... you can check it on the tech journal.
Now that I spend some time reading and thinking, I might even be able to use my little wgr101 if i figure out a hosts file in the android os to direct traffic through the router. And, if I don't have to wear out the usb jack on the device, all the better.
I think I have my problem fixed, just went ahead a posted this as it might give someone else an idea. Might be a solution that even the op enjoys entertaining... I think op#2 and frayedends are on the right track.

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