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After a lot of try and error, I have finally managed to activesync over bt using the provided MS BT stack and the bt tools. Currently the connection is very unstable and it can dicsonnect seconds after connecting or sometimes after about 15 minutes. What is the range of the bt on the xda 2 and will the situation improve if I get a 100m range usb dongle for my pc?

illwil said:
What is the range of the bt on the xda 2 and will the situation improve if I get a 100m range usb dongle for my pc?
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The Bluetooth radio on the XDA II is class 2. This means that its range is about 10 meters (or up to 30 meters). You can't extend the range even if you use a class 1 (100-meter range) Bluetooth dongle. I've already tried that.

Slightly off topic, I appologise...
Can any person suggest a good USB Bluetooth device with which XDA II with Active Sync?
Thanks, Ben.

benclewett said:
Can any person suggest a good USB Bluetooth device with which XDA II with Active Sync?
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I use a Billionton Class 1 Bluetooth USB dongle.

One of these:
http://www.billionton.com/website/product/index.asp?sid=109647601&code=USBBTC1A
If it works well with the XDA, that's enough for me, thanks.
Ben

illwill, can you tell me how you managed to get activesync to work over bluetooth? I cant get it to do anything, a step by step would be very helpful for myself and others. Thank you.

I use a Sitecom class I (100m) BT usb dongle and managed to get Activesync to work with my MDA II over bt connection after installing the wonderful BT Tools from Tobias Waldvogel:
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/

http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
cruisin-thru said:
illwill, can you tell me how you managed to get activesync to work over bluetooth? I cant get it to do anything, a step by step would be very helpful for myself and others. Thank you.
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You could use Pocket Bluetooth Tools (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html).
It's free, works like a charm and it's got a guide too. The only trick my friend had a problem with, was setting up the correct COM port on the PC in PC's bluetooth settings.
have fun, let me know if you need more help.

AS over BT
Delete your pc from bonded devices on your xda II if you have it bonded
Here is how I got my bluetooth to activesync with pc. Go into ActiveSync on pc and select File-> connection settings.
Make sure that "Allow serial cable or infrared...." is checked and you have put the COM port as the BT serial port.
On your xda, turn off Bluetooth and then turn it back on.
Go to Settings->System and select Bluetooth settings
Click on the start button to start BT Activesync. You will get a message that you need to set up a device that supports BT AS, XDA will search for devices and find your pc. After bonding pc, you will get a message stating that ActiveSync BT is now setup.
Open AS and select Tools -> Connect via BT (or something), and your pc will prompt you for authorisation.
*If it all works like mine then it will connect ok but the connection will drop out as soon as you try to do anything worth while like surfing the internet over BT or syncing AvantGo*

ilwill you the man. That worked a treat. I had just about given up until i read your post. Good work mate....
Dave N.Ireland

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zfiser said:
cruisin-thru said:
illwill, can you tell me how you managed to get activesync to work over bluetooth? I cant get it to do anything, a step by step would be very helpful for myself and others. Thank you.
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You could use Pocket Bluetooth Tools (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html).
It's free, works like a charm and it's got a guide too. The only trick my friend had a problem with, was setting up the correct COM port on the PC in PC's bluetooth settings.
have fun, let me know if you need more help.
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Well I have this problem....
my BT software (widcomm 1.4.2) insists on setting the com port as com 10 and above...re-installed several times...same thing....and of course Active sync does not even recognize com 10.....any thoughts
one more thing worth notinh...the widcom sites speaks of a BT stack for ppc phone edition and a dev kit for it....(which do support headset and handsfree in addition to the other profiles...) so any news on where this product stands where can we get it??

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hops said:
Well I have this problem....
my BT software (widcomm 1.4.2) insists on setting the com port as com 10 and above...re-installed several times...same thing....and of course Active sync does not even recognize com 10.....any thoughts
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My Bluetooth dongle also uses the Widcomm software. But it assigned COM7 as the Bluetooth serial port. Did you assign a serial port to any Bluetooth profile besides the ActiveSync profile?

whenever I try to assign a port to any service...it is always greater than 10!!
can this be an XP thing??

hops said:
whenever I try to assign a port to any service...it is always greater than 10!!
can this be an XP thing??
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No, I also use Windows XP.
I'm not sure about this but try this if it works. Launch the Windows Registry Editor (regedit.exe). Then navigate to the registry key "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Widcomm\BTConfig\Services". Under that key are several keys named "0001", "0002", "0003", and so on. Look for the key whose registry value "Name" is set to "ActiveSync". In that key, change the setting of registry value "ComPortNumber" to a number lower than 10 (like 9). Then restart your PC and see if that changes the Bluetooth serial port setting.

Bluetooth and Activesync

Hi All, great forum this found out loads of info.
I have a real problem.
My connector on the Handset has broke so not able to sync with laptop.
Brought bluetooth dongle se up as instructions on the forum site.
But it does not work.
When i try to sync with activesync on PDA it comes up with.
Cannot start communications with the desktop computer. The communitations port is not available,Another program may be using the port or it may not be valid.
Any ideas please.

in activesync on the PC have you selected the correct serial port that your bluetooth is acting as

I have the same probs.
Using qtek 2020 ROM 1.72WEW ,Active Sync 3.8,Win2000SP3.
I entered at the BluetoothStick and at the ActiveSync Screen the port COM5.

Sorry,
now I'm not anymore a guest...
Anonymous said:
I have the same probs.
Using qtek 2020 ROM 1.72WEW ,Active Sync 3.8,Win2000SP3.
I entered at the BluetoothStick and at the ActiveSync Screen the port COM5.
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Hi.
I spent hours and hours trying to sep up Activesync and I found these and sorted it:
Bluetooth Drivers:
First I removed the old Bluetooth drivers as they are not needed.
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=3163
Com ports:
Then I reset the com ports.
http://help.lockergnome.com/index.php?showtopic=26563
Regards,
Ian Watson

I found this a little tricky, but I did it like this (using SP2 BT drivers on XP):
1.Start off with the phone and computer unpaired
2.Open the bluetooth menu (double click on the bluetooth icon in the system tray).
3.Select the comm ports tab and click to add a new INCOMING port. - This port got assigned to something stupid like comm 36.
4.Open device manager, and select the comm port that has just been made.
5. Go to properties->port settings->advanced and change it to a lower end port you know isn't in use. I selected 3.
6. Reboot the computer (not sure if this was really needed)
7. On the phone go to start->settings->system-bluetooth settings and make sure the in and outgoing ports are selected (again not sure if thats essential, but I have it on and it works for me). Then press start.
8. Bond with your computer. There isnt anything that tells you if this has worked or not (which is very frustrating), so you just gotta click ok and test it.
9. In activesync go into the connections bit and tell it to list on the comm that you set in step 3. To get to this bit you have to have synced your phone through usb or something first.
10. on the phone go to activesync->tools->connect via bluetooth (remember to turn bluetooth on first). If everything has gone to plan then it should connect fine.
I did this a few times until suddenly it worked. I'm not sure what I did the time that it did work, but it was something, so I would suggest trying slightly different things each time, but I'm pretty sure it was that way.
The whole process of setting up activesync over bluetooth is really tedious imo, and could be greatly improved in many many ways.
Good luck and let me know if this works.
Tim

when i try to bond with my computer...why is it asking for a PIN CODE? im trying to connect my imate to the computer so i can sync thru bluetooth and possibly use the internet when i'm around the house. Can someone please help me?
i tried the search engine, but its no help for me.

of course it will ask for a pincode in both directions.. meaning your phone and PC.. but this for the first time connection only... so what you want to do is to set each other as an authorized counterpart of the other so that you will not have any confirmations again

ok...sorry for these noobie question...i have finaly established a connection with my PC.
is it possible for me to use the internet from my computer on my PDA thru BT? for example, i want to use AIM *AOL* instant message, but im not sure if there is an internet connection on my PDA thru bluetooth. How would i tell if there is a connection? if not, how do i connect? please help? thanks again in advance

If you go into activesync and under options-->rules at the bottom there is the option to share your net connection with the synced device (called pass-through). My XDA II pops up a message when its making a gprs connection.

Hi @ all,
I did not tested it again because I now have a synccable.
This works fine.
Thanks a lot for your great support!
I installed Mobile Navigon4 (Update4.2). Because of the fact that my audiospeaker is not working (Audio about Headset & BT-Headset works fine/speaker is not defect)here is my question:
Can I use the PPC in my car for navigation ?I want to use the BT-Headset for the navigation audio output.Does it work?

Activesync 4.2 beta available... anyone used it yet?

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/downloads/activesync42.mspx
Available... still no wifi sync...
Has anyone tried it yet?

Yes and its made no difference to my activesync issues...
I can't see any other obvious changes...

Yes, the same sh ....

I wait for the final german release, and i've never had problems with AS 4.1 (except the bluescreen problem caused by Kaspersky).

Definate improvement for me, I had problems where I couldn't sync using USB when I'm connected to the work VPN. AS would keep spinning and connecting, and the VPN connection would die. Only way for me to sync was to use IrDa. Now, with AS4.2 USB sync works fine. (At last)
Andy

Anyone here with a Logitech DiNovo Keyboard set? I've been having problems since v.3.8 of activesync in that the setpoint software and active sync conflict causing the current active windows to loose focus for one second every 7seconds.
Very irritating. Has this version solved the problem? Logitech doesn't want to claim responsibility for the problem. Neither does microsoft

Logitech Desktop M5000 Laser
Jorgee, I've got the set above.
If I install the MS Bluetooth option for the Logitech and use AS bluetooth, it works fine.
If I use the Widcomm BT for the Logitech, no connection.
I had AS (using BT or USB) steal focus every 4 seconds IF Outlook wasn't open - as soon as I open Outlook (I'm using 2003), no further problems.
It appears to be an issue with AS and Outlook.
I'm not sure if this is of any use to you, but you never know...

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huisie said:
Jorgee, I've got the set above.
If I install the MS Bluetooth option for the Logitech and use AS bluetooth, it works fine.
If I use the Widcomm BT for the Logitech, no connection.
I had AS (using BT or USB) steal focus every 4 seconds IF Outlook wasn't open - as soon as I open Outlook (I'm using 2003), no further problems.
It appears to be an issue with AS and Outlook.
I'm not sure if this is of any use to you, but you never know...
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I will try what you said. As a fix what I would do is open taskmanager and terminate the setpoint process. this corrects it but ofcourse I loose setpoint functionality.
1 question. What do you mean by "ms bluetooth option" and "widcomm"? do I get to choose from the 2 during installation? how do you recommend * proceed. I might just format my Pc over the weekend so this is the perfect oportunity.

ActiveSync dosnt work for me
Hiya Guts
Can anyone help.
I got my XDA Exec last week and tried installing ActiveSync but to no avail does it detect my PDA. Actually it worked once.
I decided to install the latest version 4.2 but still nothing. I installed and removed over a dozen time, rebooted pc and nothing. I followed instructions to add profiles to my firewall and still nothing.
I dont know what else to do. Can anyone help?
Thanks

Re: ActiveSync dosnt work for me
Gochos The Greek said:
Hiya Guts
Can anyone help.
I got my XDA Exec last week and tried installing ActiveSync but to no avail does it detect my PDA. Actually it worked once.
I decided to install the latest version 4.2 but still nothing. I installed and removed over a dozen time, rebooted pc and nothing. I followed instructions to add profiles to my firewall and still nothing.
I dont know what else to do. Can anyone help?
Thanks
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Are you using any firewall software... or inparticular Norton Applications??? If so, try disabling it (but stay offline if ya worried), and then connecting, if this fixes your problem there is a bit on the M$ website (there are sometimes bits of use there...) I found that helped when sorting me mates Exec out... I'll dig that up
And I found 4.2 a lot better than 4.1, it's a lot faster to sync the calendar and e-mail files! :-D

Works w/o any problems
All settings were taken over from 4.1
Cheers
hrb

Seems to have sorted my problem out. Good news. Now tryng to figure out how to Send over images etc to my XDA Xec. Instructions supplied are not all that clear are they

Gochos The Greek said:
Seems to have sorted my problem out. Good news. Now tryng to figure out how to Send over images etc to my XDA Xec. Instructions supplied are not all that clear are they
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Connect your Exec, load up Activesync
Click on Explore, you'll be taken to the My Documents on your Main Memory, drag drop there, or in My Pictures... or explore the device and create a folder in your Storage Card and dump them there...

Re: Logitech Desktop M5000 Laser
huisie said:
Jorgee, I've got the set above.
If I install the MS Bluetooth option for the Logitech and use AS bluetooth, it works fine.
If I use the Widcomm BT for the Logitech, no connection.
I had AS (using BT or USB) steal focus every 4 seconds IF Outlook wasn't open - as soon as I open Outlook (I'm using 2003), no further problems.
It appears to be an issue with AS and Outlook.
I'm not sure if this is of any use to you, but you never know...
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I have the exact same problem. Interestingly I am using Setpoint software too with my Logitech mx610 mouse which is cordless (2,4 Ghz i believe) and use a seperate dongle my Bluetooth which is a Jabra A320s dongle.
If Outlook is not open i lose focus every 4-5 seconds and then get it back. Interestingly I only noticed today and I am sure i have used BT activesync and this mouse at the same time before without Outlook being open. Frickin odd...and highly annoying.

Adding Bluetooth Ports

Hi all.
I have a T-Mobile MDA Compact, which I flashed with a big storage ROM I got from the FTP site (1.13.00 WWE). My device works fine, other than one thing.
I cannot establish an ActiveSync connection using Bluetooth. When I try to set up the connection on my device, when it comes to choosing which port I will use for the connection, there are none to choose from, and I am unable to complete the operation.
I can connect to other devices for file transfer Ok, and I don;t have any problems using a Bluetooth headset.
Does anyone know if there is an entry I can add to the registry to add a port manually, or if there is another way I can add a port?
Thanks.

Bump - can anyone help?
Thanks guys.

First of all pair your PC.
Then go to settings-tab system-Bluetooth settings and make sure you open your autbound COM port by clicking the checkox.
Press the button "start"
Goor luck!

Bruins3 - done what you said, but no joy. It tells me to then pair with my PC, even though it already is. Strangely, I can pair with my Magician from my PC, but not vice versa.
Once the two are paired, when I go to the COM ports tab in Bluetooth settings, I simply cannot add a port of any kind - no ports are listed in the drop-down box for me to select.
Help?

Red_five
Forget it, Dont sync your magician using Bluetooth.
Its a big waste of time.
Ive spent the last hour trying to get this to work, and it just annoying me.
I have made my Magician sync with my computer over bluetooth before, Using 'Bluesoleil'. It's some sort of stack/ program, and for some reason my Bluesoleil doesent work anymore.
But someone made a thread about it, very detailed, and i cant find it anymore. Try experiment, and id be glad to know if you can get it to work properly.
whitemoo.

Use OBD Reader for WM6

Hi,
I have an SX-66, and I used to used OBDGauge with W2003SE, the thing is I upgraded to WM6, and the program runs, but I get an error:
Error: Failed to open serial port
Does anyone know how to open a serial port under WM6?
I love this program and it works so well, I would hate to downgrade just to use it. I know it works for WM6, because a buddy of mine has the HTC Tilt and he uses the same program and it works fine for him.
If it is of any help, I use a ELM 323 connetion to serial.
If I figure it out, I will let you guys know how I did it.
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Also for those of you using WM6 on your SX66 with a BT GPS, I was able to connect mine when I used the BroadcomCorp_BT1.6.0.600 update.
I now connects flawlessly. Only thing is the connection takes a while to sync, like maybe 45-60 sec. I went from Miami, FL to Orlando, a 3 hour drive and it did not disconnect once. It also creates an extra Bluetooth file on my settings, but allows me to use the command manager to turn it off or on, so thats fine with me.

Do you connect your ODB reader via bluetooth?

No I connect it through data cable?

OBD WM6
If your PDA supports serial port hardware, you should open the same COM port as before? You can also use Bluetooth to read OBD data from your car : http://www.obdkey.com

Ok so everything is up and ready.
I have an ELM323 connecting to my Sx66. I am able to communicate beautifully with my Cars ECU now. Already have seen a few thing that need adjusting like my timing.
Well anyways. As soon as my wife gets home, I am going to take pictures. I will send you guys the looks. The good thing is I found the original data cable on ebay from Cingular/Siemens. It is USB and Serial, but it has an adapter to also charge it. I was worried, because my cradle did not have serial, but I know you could get an serial/usb adapter (but someone told me it would not work this way).
Anyways, upcoming plans are to do a little tweak, the same one from Youtube, called the Aximizer.
Also, one more thing are GSM attennas worth their money?

o_0
Ok....
So I am not liking something with OBDGauge, like the fact that it is a pain in the rear to get to work on my car. When I replied, it worked, now it is not. I have to diddle daddle with it until finally it works, takes 5 minutes (not very practical). I have been reading the forums and alot of people have problems with OBDgauge. I am going to install something else: If anyone you know of any programs let me know, must support WM6.

OK a heads up.
For those of you that want to do a little project you will need 3 things to get your blueangel to work with the OBDII reader in your car:
1. a serial null modem: you can find one at radio shack
2. serial cable data cable, a converter serial to usb will not work.
3. and an OBDII with elm 323 or 327, also autoenginuity has a great one package with a badass program that only works with their reader.
I am in the process of making a program with my brother-in-law for this to work with the ELM devices as we have notice that most programs are limited and do not feature things like oil pressure and miles per gallon.
I wish I knew how to create a dyno program, but I will leave it upto others to come.
I only know of two programs that work well with WM6 under the ELM that are free and they are: OBDGAUGE and ScanTest or MicroOBD.
anyways I do not know much about making a program for WM6, but my brother-in-law does. I am going to try my best with him to develop something, when I do, I will put out here for you guys to use.
I would like some new tips if possible so that we do not have to struggle too much.

sorgeangel said:
I know it works for WM6, because a buddy of mine has the HTC Tilt and he uses the same program and it works fine for him.
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How does your buddy connect his tilt to the OBDII reader, is there some bluetooth serial adapter involved? I have a Kaiser (and can't believe that the Tilt has a serial port or USB host) and am currently looking for exactly the same thing to do.

Any updates of apps för OBD reading?
Or just the same old same old apps?
OBDGauge and MicroOBD

Zoolooc said:
How does your buddy connect his tilt to the OBDII reader, is there some bluetooth serial adapter involved? I have a Kaiser (and can't believe that the Tilt has a serial port or USB host) and am currently looking for exactly the same thing to do.
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I would like to know also. I have a bluetooth ELM327 device that connects fine to my Palm Lifedrive, but when I try with the Tilt running WM6 I get the "failed to open serial port" window. Anyone got any ideas? Thanks
[edit] I did some more searching and found this post series at ATT's wireless site: http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/HTC/HTC-Tilt-bluetooth-sync/td-p/1408041
QUOTE: Did you create an outgoing COM port on your phone? You then have to go into ActiveSync's options on the desktop (File-Connection Settings) and check the checkbox that says "Allow connections on " and select that port # in the pulldown menu. At least, that's how I do it in XP.
sanglee wrote:
I think I'm having the same problem... basically, I follow the instructions and still cannot sync. Here is what I see AFTER I pair the devices:
1. On PC (XP w/ all the updates), Bluetooth--> QuickConnect --> Serial Port does not have Tilt device in the pull down menu and when I "Find Device" it cannot find the device (remember, tilt and PC already paired)
2. On PC w/ ActiveSync4.2, I tried to CONNECT using "Connection Setting" and cannot find the Tilt.
3. On PC MyBluetoothPlace, I only see the following "services",
a. Dial-Up
b. Network Access Point
c. Voice Gateway
4. On Tilt, I only see the following services;
a. Wireless Stereo
b. Serial Port
c. Dial Networking
d. Headset
Help!
END QUOTE. Admittedly, this is originally dealing with ActiveSync, but I did discover the "New Outgoing Port" setting inside the Settings/Bluetooth folder. Click on COM ports. Select the device you wish to add (mine is called CBT). Hit next and select a COM port (I am using 5). I am going to test in the truck. Eureka! It works! Make sure the com port you select in OBDGauge preferences is the same you assigned to the BT ELM interface, and it should connect and start scanning. Hope this helps.