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So, after diggin' for long time in registry on Pocket PC 2002 ROMs I've found nice feature - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\
(may vary cause this is from 2003 ROM, for now I have but was like this and works on 2002), has value WakeUpPowerOff = 180 (by default).
This value (in seconds) determines, how long device will be on after:
1. power on by "power" button (and no other activity - no taps, no any hardware buttons pressing) - it userful for example to see "what's on
today", time, etc...
2. power on by incoming event like SMS or calendar one.
And after you touch screen\ other button - then as I found starts another, "original" timer, defined in Start->Settings->System->Power.
I've set above WakeUp parameter to WakeUpPowerOff = 12 (smallest that works really at mine device) and what I got? This:
When I need to look into today's or time or missed calls etc - I just press power look at screen and devices turns iself off byself. Not great effort but - heh - longer live for power button
But this is more important: When incomes SMS (I have gate from internet inbox to sms so have a lot of smses) - devices comes on only for 12 secs - for day it increases significantly battery life. (aha - 180sec and 12sec - differs!) (etc...). So we can set auto Off timer for 1 minute and work in normal mode (when we tap or read something, smaller is not so much siutable), but with this WakeUp timer also when we don't use device we get very small time to byself on\off-ing and longer battery life.
But after appearing 2003 in my wallaby and then after bying himalaya I have changed this parameter with no effect.
Now I find solution!
We need to change one more parameter in that registry subdirectory named:
DisableGwesPowerOff=1 by defalut. Simpy set it to 0.
And now on my XDA II (and on XDA I with 2003) this hacks works.
I think this will be userful for our XDA community. Thanks for paying attention for this text.
Hey, that is a very, very cool hack! I have always been annoyed when my XDA2 is in my pocket and I receive an SMS when I can't reply. During the 2 minutes before it switches itself off I find that the screen gets pressed a lot in my pocket with sometimes disastrous results.
This hack seems to have no side-effects at all. The XDA2 stays switched on in the cradle and changing the Power-off-on-battery setting doesn't reset this auto-off timer.
I dare to suggest even that it is perfect! Thank you very much nugged.
Thank you realy love this one :idea:
Works fine with 5sec off on XDAII.
goodluck
2 SiliconS: That's some kind of pleasure to share with info and to help.
2 eme: 5 sec? hmm... Ah! I think I have bigger lag cause I have setted up password protection and maybe it needs some time to initialize after on/before off... You haven't password protection on?
Anyway - it's works.
I've just had a thought: does this hack affect the alarms and appointment notifications? Does the machine turn itself off after 12 seconds and stop the alarm working? That might be a problem for some people if so. I can't test at the moment - my wife is asleep
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Just tested, quietly . It does affect the alarm. I set a repeating alarm. The machine turned on, sounded the alarm once and then switched off. When I turned it on again a few seconds later it sounded a repeat.
I think this hack is excellent if you don't use your XDA2 for alarms or notifications. Otherwise it might cause problems. :?
@nugged:
every PocketPC turns itself automatically on at midnight, to perform some magic regarding alarms etc. It is a known problem that sometimes it turns off too soon again, before having finished its work. There are even programs to make this time-out longer. Question: does you hack also affect this time-out, or is it something completely unrelated?
Cheers
Daniel
2 tadzio: Mine never do this. What "reorganization"? Mine works fine, don't miss any appointments and haven't midnight magic power-ons ...
2 SiliconS: Yes, so that's maybe who need to have long alarms install additional soft and\or set up time longer, smth like 15 seconds.
As for me - yes, I use mine device lot of time so it often in mine hands and at my eyes so I don't need long alarms.
Lets explore info above (at 1st post) here more deeply maybe someone find solution for short WakeUpPowerOff time and working long alarms if needed.
Put down the pipe!!
What are you guys on, hacking the on time? I must be really confused... what about just using the power settings to turn of backlight after 10 seconds and power off if not used for 1 minute?
That's all I ever do and mine lasts easily through a weekend with a few hours of talk time and checking my e-mail at least 20 times.
2 wayandrs: That's your decision If you satisfied with that standard system - good . Anyway - it's not an order - it's just advice
Look - when you setup to run your backlight off after 10 seconds - try to work normally then .
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2 tadzio: Mine never do this.
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Yes, it does. You just don't see it because it's only a partial power-up: the display does not get switched on.
The OS needs to clean up appointments, and set alarms for the new day. Most of the time it succeeds, but sometimes the device powers off automatically before the OS could finish, resulting in alarms not going off. This is what tools like "Wakeup Tweak" are for - they just extend the time-out until the device powers down again.
Also, zendrui (the PocketZenPhone author) had a lot of... umm... fun with this feature when users configured PocketZenPhone to automatically switch modes at midnight. Ask him, I think he knows a lot more about this than he ever wanted to know.
Cheers
Daniel
I miss the old 2003 future and wish SMS dose not turn IMATE-II on..
hope some body listen there and give a soltion. it was built in before some bodies complain about it.
2 eme: 5 sec? hmm... Ah! I think I have bigger lag cause I have setted up password protection and maybe it needs some time to initialize after on/before off... You haven't password protection on?
Yes, no password protection.
Btw I managed to connect over BT to Linux machine and have acces to local net and web. That 's nothing ok. But managed also to use device cca
100m+ away form my BT acces point. Just put USB dongle on extended
cable and if possible outside of your room. My is on the attic.
Think, PC makes som interference to BT rx for sure. If anybody interesting
on this can write som more..
goodluck
2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
2 tadzio: so, device turning itself on withot turning on display? Sounds very interesting. Anyway - we can say so our devices stays on every time even turned off by the key, they only slowing down processor and turning off display and some hardware, cause they need to refresh SDRAM memory, to track and remember appointments to wake up at needed time, etc.
And, anyway, if this 'midnight ONs' are have place, if they are not turning on display - ppc works in another mode and I think this registry value is not related to them. But this - for me - is very strange information.
Please, Daniel, give detailed info/links, if you know this question good or don't bewilder other peoples, who read this topic.
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2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
I do not have any appointments stored in my device.
Cant wait for Linux to run on it with graphical enviromet.
Than we can all forget this misterious M$ hacks.
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eme said:
nugged said:
2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
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Oh, I didn't mean to say that I have any problems. In fact, before I apply this hack I wanted to make sure that it will likely not cause any problems, that's why I asked if the author knows about any possible interaction between the midnight wakeup and his hack. I would suspect there is none, but I am not sure.
Cheers
Daniel
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Please, Daniel, give detailed info/links, if you know this question good or don't bewilder other peoples, who read this topic.
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Here is more information about this: http://www.mtekk.com.au/browse/page826.html
Cheers
Daniel
problem need help
Alrite i tried with a 12. It works well. As expected, but things happen when my phone rings, with a long rintone i have, it got cut off and then it went back to standby mode, making the call still ringing behind the background, after a while it was turn on again. It annoying when i cannot hear the first part of the ring. I end up not picking up importants calls... Anyway to help this desperado? ow i want to change back but its like the same...
I tried searching for the reason/solution but could not find anything.
Basically my device keeps truning on. I read somewhere that it's due to a fault in the radio rom. Does anyone have any knowledge/solution for this?
Thanks
It seems very strange to me, which programs are installed in your phone?
If it's related to radio you can just try to flash the latest radio 1.38.00.11 (ripped by Pof) without losing any of your data to see if this resolves your problem.
pof's Trin_Radio_1.38.00.11_Only_SSPL rip
Thanks
I'll try this later and report back...
Noony said:
Thanks
I'll try this later and report back...
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Do you have Exchange (Push) email? Do you have set email receiving to happen after a certain amount of time?
No, good suggestion but it's not the email settings.
I've put the newer radio rom on and so far no turning on. But it's only been a few hours so far...
Still turns on - oh well !
I have this same problem with my Imate Jam, my phone is set to check email every 15mins and I think thats when it turns itself on. But this must be a bug because it drains the battery so much faster especially it the screen gets random inputs when it is in your pocket constantly.
Another suggestion - do you use Sprite Backup Battery Monitor ?
http://www.spritesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=606
or any other Weatherplugin which is checking every minutes the forecast ?
rdu85 said:
Another suggestion - do you use Sprite Backup Battery Monitor ?
http://www.spritesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=606
or any other Weatherplugin which is checking every minutes the forecast ?
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I have the same turning on issue. On mine, I know it is due to the email that is getting downloaded. Mine doesn't always do it, sometimes if I've been using wifi and turned it off, the phone will connect and check mail without coming out of standby. I haven't been able to track down exactly how to fix it. I do use DeviceLock which locks the screen so that if the phone wakes up for any reason when it is in my pocket or my backpack, buttons don't get pressed by accident.
My Dopod is turning on too and it really pisses me off.
I can be sure at 12:00am it will turn on every time.
I have reduced my power off time to 2min.
Noony said:
I tried searching for the reason/solution but could not find anything.
Basically my device keeps truning on. I read somewhere that it's due to a fault in the radio rom. Does anyone have any knowledge/solution for this?
Thanks
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Before doing anything like flashing a different rom,start by eliminating some things
First remove your sim card and turn off the phone if it turns on by itself then its not network related nor has anything to do with your email settings.
Second try a different simcard and set the network manually to GSM and disable GPRS.
Third remove all programs that you've added(Hard reset if you have to).
Finally and if none of the above work flash a different rom.
* puts on noob protection *
Whenever I turn my device on, it goes back to the today screen and for the life of me cannot find any option to disable this!
I'm using LVSWs WM6 ROM.
RAH! Driving me nuts.
Thanks.
Same
I have the same problem with my PC. Every time I boot it up it goes to the desktop!
Can't work out how to stop it.
esseff said:
I have the same problem with my PC. Every time I boot it up it goes to the desktop!
Can't work out how to stop it.
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Good to know I'm not the only one. I don't think it always did this either.
Do you have HTweakC installed?
ok I am a little lost here if you put your device in standby it will awake to what ever screen was there before it went to sleep. If you power your phone off completely it HAS to start at the today screen thats just how it boots up... try using the ROM i have posted in the forum in my SIG since i have no issues with it.
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ok I am a little lost here if you put your device in standby it will awake to what ever screen was there before it went to sleep. If you power your phone off completely it HAS to start at the today screen thats just how it boots up... try using the ROM i have posted in the forum in my SIG since i have no issues with it.
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Lol. yours is actually the ROM I'm using.
j0dan said:
* puts on noob protection *
Whenever I turn my device on, it goes back to the today screen and for the life of me cannot find any option to disable this!
I'm using LVSWs WM6 ROM.
RAH! Driving me nuts.
Thanks.
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I'm not sure that we are understanding your question properly. I can see some of those replying above are puzzled as well.
As Austinsync says above if you turn on after normal sleep mode you return to the screen you were on before. If you fully powered off (not something you should be doing in regular use) then it will go to the today screen.
So, when you start up your device what screen do you expect to see if it's not the today screen?
Mike
I believe I undestand the OP because I have the same problem. No matter what you have loaded, after going into standby the phone returns to the Today screen. The original active app is still loaded, but not in the foreground.
I have tracked the problem down to either pocketbreeze or Handyswitcher. I'll test more when I return from the business trip I am currently on.
Regards,
Marcelo
mfabre said:
I believe I undestand the OP because I have the same problem. No matter what you have loaded, after going into standby the phone returns to the Today screen. The original active app is still loaded, but not in the foreground.
I have tracked the problem down to either pocketbreeze or Handyswitcher. I'll test more when I return from the business trip I am currently on.
Regards,
Marcelo
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Hmm.. I'm not using either of those programs. As for software running, I'm using HTC X-Button, phonealarm and spb tools.
I just flashed a different ROM. Older LVSW modified by austinsync this time. Same problem!
I just flashed the LVSW by Sleuth255 and it doesn't do this!
It seems to have been a problem with all of austinsync's ROMs. Phone starts up MUCH quicker now too!
EDIT: I just remembered that the customizations from EXTROM didn't run with Sleuth255's ROM. Could be part of it.
I have the same problem with Schap's Rom (3.57). Anyone else?
My .02.
I recently hard-reset my Schap's 3.57 ROM and have installed minimal software that interact with the Today screen. Before hard-resetting the device, my system would also go to the Today screen whenever my device came out of standby. After the hard-reset, it no longer goes to the Today screen until after the timeout period defined in the Today Settings.
Before Hard-Reset on Today Screen:
Office Communicator
Windows Live Search
Activesync Exchange Server Direct Push
Palm Messaging
After Hard-Reset on Today Screen:
Palm Messaging
No Data Connection or Direct Push
Hope this helps.
Murad
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Running Schap's 3.57 ROM, not the Official HTC WM6 ROM (as in my signature)
I really don't have this problem!
OS see my signature
I just had to hard-reset (Schap's 3.54b), and the device still goes to today screen. Gaaaahhhh!!!
This is also being discussed here.
mikechannon suggested this might only happen when you're using device lock? My exchange admin requires it - I have a device lock and I also use Zenyee Stayunlock to allow me to adjust my settings...
Hello, i'm asking if there is any app to turn off and on the phone accourding with working hours? Thanks in advance
it's possible
the htc home plugin does it unless it really have to be 100% off and not just soundless
but i'd asume that a timed flightmode would be equaly possible
Rudegar said:
it's possible
the htc home plugin does it unless it really have to be 100% off and not just soundless
but i'd asume that a timed flightmode would be equaly possible
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you don't understand my question, I want a program to do that automaticly.
Phoneweaver does it. I think there's a new one, v1.1. I'm using 1.0 and it lets you set automatic profiling (e.g. flight mode) for specific times of the day. Actually, phonealarm should let you do that as well.
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Phoneweaver does it. I think there's a new one, v1.1. I'm using 1.0 and it lets you set automatic profiling (e.g. flight mode) for specific times of the day. Actually, phonealarm should let you do that as well.
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I've been using Phoneweaver for about a few weeks now. It turns off my phone radio at midnight and turns it back on again at 7:30 am. I can still use the Wifi in-between if I wake up in the night. On Saturday and Sunday mornings it doesn't turn itself on until 8:30
Pocketzenphone can do it. (www.pocketzenphone.net)
Communication Manager Pro
Try this one:
http://www.commmgrpro.com/
I use it for 3 month now, works fine with a lot of additional features.
ULI
Can the phone wake up if i put it off when i have sett the alarm.
Is it based on a setting or is it not possible!?
Its good if its possible to have it off on nights and get the alarm going in the morning.. saving power ehen i am out of my home..
Please give me som advice.!
fpow said:
Can the phone wake up if i put it off when i have sett the alarm.
Is it based on a setting or is it not possible!?
Its good if its possible to have it off on nights and get the alarm going in the morning.. saving power ehen i am out of my home..
Please give me som advice.!
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I can´t help you, but i´m also missing this function, on my old SonyEricsson worked this, i tried today with the trick on my TD2 but no, it doesn´t work by default.
jonas9000 said:
I can´t help you, but i´m also missing this function, on my old SonyEricsson worked this, i tried today with the trick on my TD2 but no, it doesn´t work by default.
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My nokia´s and ericsson are all doing this... tis is realy bad that its not working!!!
This was also on my Blackberry. It would automatically switch off at 10.00pm and wake up at 7.00am (weekdays) then however at the weekends...
There are loads of really clever people contributing to these forums, hope its not too long before a solutions appears.....
Mark
anyone any ideas?
Auto off at 10.00pm
Auto on at 6.30am (with an alarm) (M,T,W,Th, F)
all adjustable as per in G-Alarm.
thanks
I though if blackberry can do it so could could you guys....
Well, I think that if you are switching it off, it's off...
But you can use software to switch to 'plane mode' for instance like phonealarm or other programs.
And then let it in sleep mode.
Without any connexion, the phone will not use the battery...