How to Differentiate between GPRS, EDGE, UMTS & HSDPA? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I am using Hermes, (Dopod 838Pro Hong Kong Version) with
ROM 1.23.708.4
Radio Rom 1.06.00.10
Protocol 32.37.7010.01H
The network I am using supports HSDPA, UMTS, EDGE and GPRS where I have not subscribed HSDPA service.
When I was with my Prophet, I saw there were an "E" icon and "G" icon to differentiate between EDGE and GPRS network respectively. However, I only get "U" icon and
"G" icon to identify UMTS and GPRS connection respectively.
My question is
1. HOW TO FIND OUT THE "E" ICON FOR EDGE?
(I have tried the registry tweak EnableDifferGprsEdgeIcon, but it was not successful)
2. IS THERE ANY "H" ICON FOR HSDPA CONNECTION?
3. IF I HAVE HSDPA SUBSCRIPTION, IS THERE ANY PROCEDURE TO CONNECT HSDPA / DISCONNECT HSDPA BACK TO UMTS?
Thank you very much!

I dont think you will get HSDPA with that radio. You will need to upgrade the radio rom at least (if not the OS too).

unwired4 said:
I dont think you will get HSDPA with that radio. You will need to upgrade the radio rom at least (if not the OS too).
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Oh yes, I do have HSDPA with that version of Radio ROM. There's no indication for HSDPA. You have to use FieldText.exe to check it out. Or simply browse a web site and note the download speed (I use Spb GPRS Monitor)

felixtmwu said:
I am using Hermes, (Dopod 838Pro Hong Kong Version) with
ROM 1.23.708.4
Radio Rom 1.06.00.10
Protocol 32.37.7010.01H
The network I am using supports HSDPA, UMTS, EDGE and GPRS where I have not subscribed HSDPA service.
When I was with my Prophet, I saw there were an "E" icon and "G" icon to differentiate between EDGE and GPRS network respectively. However, I only get "U" icon and
"G" icon to identify UMTS and GPRS connection respectively.
My question is
1. HOW TO FIND OUT THE "E" ICON FOR EDGE?
(I have tried the registry tweak EnableDifferGprsEdgeIcon, but it was not successful)
2. IS THERE ANY "H" ICON FOR HSDPA CONNECTION?
3. IF I HAVE HSDPA SUBSCRIPTION, IS THERE ANY PROCEDURE TO CONNECT HSDPA / DISCONNECT HSDPA BACK TO UMTS?
Thank you very much!
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Just about all your questions have come up before!
So for example you will find references to this as the best speed test - all you do is tapit into your device browser:
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
You'll find references to this info:
"G" - GPRS, GSM and EDGE
"U" - UMTS and HSDPA
You'll find there are tweaks for changing the non specific nature of the above.
Try that google sticky at the top of the messages list.
Cheers
Mike

Hi,
I am using the latest German HTC ROM on my Hermes
RUU_Hermes_QTEK_GER_2.15.257.1_104_6275_1.38.00.10_108_Ship.exe
This displays
G=GPRS
E=Edge
3G=UMTS
H=HSDPA
Regards
Frank

Related

How do I know if I'm using HSDPA or not?

Newbie here.
I have a 838 Pro and have subscribed to Hong Kong's "3" 3G/HSDPA plan. The icon only reade UMTS on the phone. How do I know if the phone is using HSDPA during data traffic or not? I have goten 400kbps out of it (from Spb traffic monitor), is this HSDPA speed? If not, do I need to call "3" to activate HSDPA (if there's such a thing)?
BTW, I've already used Hermes Tweaker 1.1a to enable HSDPA.
Thanks in advance.
Michael

Confusion about Cingular and 3G/U/H/G/E icon

I'm a little confused about the internet connection icons that vary according to ROM and carrier. If I'm on Cingular in the US what 3G technology is this? Is it UMTS or HSDPA? Also, which icon set would I need to properly display whether I'm on GPRS, EDGE, or the 3G network?
GliTCH82 said:
I'm a little confused about the internet connection icons that vary according to ROM and carrier. If I'm on Cingular in the US what 3G technology is this? Is it UMTS or HSDPA? Also, which icon set would I need to properly display whether I'm on GPRS, EDGE, or the 3G network?
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This will answer some of your question at least:
http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/defineterm.jhtml?term=cellulargenerations
Mike
GliTCH82 said:
I'm a little confused about the internet connection icons that vary according to ROM and carrier. If I'm on Cingular in the US what 3G technology is this? Is it UMTS or HSDPA? Also, which icon set would I need to properly display whether I'm on GPRS, EDGE, or the 3G network?
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all 3G cingular towers in the US have been upgraded to support HSDPA. if your device can use HSDPA, and you're on a cingular UMTS tower, then you'll be able to take advantage of HSDPA. HSDPA activates and deactivates on the fly, so if you're not actively transferring data the device will shut down HSDPA and fall back to UMTS until data beings to move again.
if you are using a cingular 8525 with 1.34 ROM, you'll see "U" when connected via UMTS, regardless of HSDPA being active or not.
if you are using a cingular 8525 with 2.06 ROM, you'll see "3G" when connected via UMTS/HSDPA, or optionally (via registry edit) "3G" with UMTS and "H" when HSDPA is actived.
i hope that was semi clear...i tried!
wait a minute. ive got a U showing, but i have 3G with a 3G simcard, so if it doesnt say 3G, than im not getting 3G? ive always thought the U was 3G.

8525 and Edge working?

Ok, quick question. Like many others, I upgraded from a 8125 to a 8525 using T-Mobile. Question being, on my service status indicators, I only get a "G" icon, and can connect to the internet. Should I get an "E" icon for using Edge? The 8125 did. Glitch or just GPRS?
I see G E and U symbols when connected with that service... so you are just out of EDGE range I think.
8525 only shows "G" for both GPRS & Edge and "U" for 3G.
If you were to upgrade to the new ROM, then you would see "G", "E", "3G" & "H" here in the States, In Europe you would also get "U".
prubin said:
8525 only shows "G" for both GPRS & Edge and "U" for 3G.
If you were to upgrade to the new ROM, then you would see "G", "E", "3G" & "H" here in the States, In Europe you would also get "U".
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Yes indeed and there are other threads on this already existing - here is but one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287829&page=11&highlight=edge+umts
Mike

T-mobile HSDPA

Hi,
When you use WinMo 6.0 pro with 3G and HSDPA capable phone (I use the new HTC Kaiser), what would be the icon that is shown up if you are using HSDPA network?
Is it "3G" or "H" ?
Because in the user manual it said "H", however in some posts, people refer to "3G".
I use T-mobile NL (Netherlands), and never got "H" icon, I always get the "3G" icon The speed is not that impressive with high network latency.
Do I need to upgrade my SIM card to enable HSDPA?
Please if you can inform about this, especially if you use T-Mobile NL.
Thanks in advance.
Hsdpa == H (3.5g)
Umts == 3g

3G problems

is anyone running the IOLITE phone on TMOBILE US with a 3G connection?
well, better now than never...here is the answer:
nobody is running 3g on iolite with t'mo...
3g freq on iolite is 2100 mhz, and that is a hardware spec that cannot be changed with softwares updates...
im in Chile and have the same problem...here i can't use 3G network...only EDGE.
sad but true...
Here in Spain, the 3G connection is well, is fast! (with Orange)
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Regards!
kenslaters said:
well, better now than never...here is the answer:
nobody is running 3g on iolite with t'mo...
3g freq on iolite is 2100 mhz, and that is a hardware spec that cannot be changed with softwares updates...
im in Chile and have the same problem...here i can't use 3G network...only EDGE.
sad but true...
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I'm also have unlocked Iolite and according to spec it have following:
GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900, UMTS 900, UMTS 2100
CSD, GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA, HSUPA, UMTS/WCDMA, GPS
So I think it should work with 3G network.
I preordered 3G network package from my ISP (Orange, IL) and configure it properly, according to ISP instruction... but whenever I enable Data Connection it always show "G" letter on top bar.
On Iolite support site I read following:
You will see these icons on the title bar when your device is connected to the Internet. G means connected via GPRS. E means connected via EDGE. 3G means connected via 3G. H means connected via 3.5G.
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Somebody know another way how to check with network I connected GPRS or 3G?
igor7: If you are connected to 3G network, your carrier name usually has 3G in name. For example 3G Vodafone instead of Vodafone. You should also check, which frequency is used for 3G in your country. If it is not 900 or 2100 MHz, you can't use Iolite for 3G.
EDIT: It is 2100 MHz in Israel. So next step is to check, if you are within 3G network coverage
torrentonly: The problem was in my sim card... It ~ 10 years old. I received it with my first mobile phone. Therefore it doesn't know nothing better than GPRS . Previously I didn't use internet on Iolite, so I didn't pay attention on this issue. Now, after I upgraded Iolite to WM6.5 and install WAZE navigation software (it use internet connection and preloaded drivers alert, traffic info e.t.c.) I noticed that my connection to slow...

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