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Multiple Bluetooth Devices

Hi there guys, its been a while since posting but I have some great news regarding using multiple bluetooth devices in the car.
A few weeks ago I purchased a Navman 4410 GPS unit for my XDAII. With the new "72" rom the Navman worked perfectly with my XDAII straight out of the box over bluetooth.
Today I installed a Sony Ericsson HBC-30 bluetooth hands free carkit (Which also worked perfectly out of the box). I was interested to know if I could have the GPS unit operating and have the handsfree carkit working at the same time.
I was simply sitting in the carpark, with the GPS connected and onscreen, then I used my other phone to call my XDAII... the call came up on screen (interrupting the GPS screen) I pressed the "answer" button on the Sony Ericsson handsfree kit, and the call came through perfectly!
Once finished with the call I pressed the "hangup" button on the handsfree kit, and then a few quick taps on the screen returned me to the GPS navigation screen.
Certainly not perfect, however it appears that the bluetooth issues are finally getting resolved, and allowing us to begin using the XDAII as it was intended.

Hi Colonel, thanks for your update, it is comforting to know that they are finally sorting out BT problems.
Is there any way to get the phone screen to automatically close after finishing a call? so I don't have to manually close it to get back to my GPS screen?

No I dont think you can. Not without altering the GPS software to continually make sure its "on top" of other windows... but then you'd have a problem with seeing the "incoming call screen" as the GPS software would try to jump on top of it.

I'd be so happy simply if I could make HCB30 and Blutrek G2 headset work side by side on my Qtek...

points are:
1-where coul i get that da***n 1.72 rom for my xda 2
2-where could i get the g2 HS in italy(even worlwide...) or all over the web at reasonable price
help a newbie...

Kolonel,
I can confirm your experience as far as BT GPS is concerned.
I however still have one issue to solve: When the MDAII (=XDA2) can't connect to the GPS (BT off, GPS off, GPS out of reach) and I start TomTom3, TomTom3 keeps searching for the GPS which results in a almost freezing MDA2.
Using rom 1,72 from Qtek I bonded the BT GPS and confirmed the question about assigning a com port.
In TomTom I assigned this (COM5) com port.
All works fine except for the issue mentioned.
Does this sound familiar?
Clues?
BTW in the BT settings screen there is nothing shown about the assigned com port (just free space next to the two lines that should indicate the in- and outbound com ports). I found COM5 to be assigned to BT by trial and error . . .

edsub said:
Kolonel,
I can confirm your experience as far as BT GPS is concerned.
I however still have one issue to solve: When the MDAII (=XDA2) can't connect to the GPS (BT off, GPS off, GPS out of reach) and I start TomTom3, TomTom3 keeps searching for the GPS which results in a almost freezing MDA2.
Using rom 1,72 from Qtek I bonded the BT GPS and confirmed the question about assigning a com port.
In TomTom I assigned this (COM5) com port.
All works fine except for the issue mentioned.
Does this sound familiar?
Clues?
BTW in the BT settings screen there is nothing shown about the assigned com port (just free space next to the two lines that should indicate the in- and outbound com ports). I found COM5 to be assigned to BT by trial and error . . .
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edsub,
Are you using "Bluetooth Tools"? Because I am not, i'm using the native bluetooth stack only.
I am using "Outbound" Com port 5 ONLY for my GPS. My 1.72 rom is the IMATE rom.
Im afraid that i'm not familiar with tomtom. So I cant help you there, sorry.

I am deliberately only using native MS bT stack.
I am only using COM5 for GPS too
What does the BT Settings show under
"Bluetooth Serial Port Setup"?
With me:
"Outbound COM port" checked, but after the colon is a "<not present>" shown.
"Inbound COM port" UNchecked, after the colon is a grayed-out "<not present>" shown.
Like i said I AM able to use the GPS via COM5.
Maybe this issue is a pure TomTom issue, I think your answer could clarify that.

edsub said:
I am deliberately only using native MS bT stack.
I am only using COM5 for GPS too
What does the BT Settings show under
"Bluetooth Serial Port Setup"?
With me:
"Outbound COM port" checked, but after the colon is a "<not present>" shown.
"Inbound COM port" UNchecked, after the colon is a grayed-out "<not present>" shown.
Like i said I AM able to use the GPS via COM5.
Maybe this issue is a pure TomTom issue, I think your answer could clarify that.
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Edsub, thats really weird... mine is:
"Inbound COM port:" UN checked, and after the colon is a grayed out "COM4"
"Outbound COM port:" checked, and after the colon is a black "COM5"

bluetooth
hi guys
im using imate 172 and tomtom 3 with a sony ericsson hb35 it works first time all the time with the standard stack. it works that good i even went and sold my carkit and just got a hold instead :lol:

@Kolonel Klink: I guessed it's strange. What ROM are you using exactly (OS & Extended).
I use the 1.72 Qtek rom with my own Extended Rom (wich is based on the Qtek ExtRom to which I added T-Mobile Nl customisations). I am sure there is nothing regarding Bluetooth in my ExtRom.
I heard from someone who uses the iMate 1.72 OS Rom (with his own cooked ExtRom) that he has the same results as you have.
Just trying to find to cause of this. Maybe I have to reflash to the iMate 1.72?? (shouldnt make a difference as both iMate and Qtek OS ROM's are the same 1.72.00WWE . . . .)
@freelockuk: Most interesting is the origin of your ExtRom. Arent there any Bluetooth enhancements in that ExtRom (like there were in the 1.60.36 T-Mobile NL ExtRom) that maybe make your 1.72 work better than mine concerning Bluetooth?

addition to prev post:
I noticed that there were two BT registry settings missing to get the assigned COMport show in BT Settings.
Also noticed another interesting value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dun]
With me this one is:
"port"="BSP9:"
In prev versions it was:
"port"="BSP4:"
Can anyone with a 1.72 ROM that has a BT GPS mouse working via SPP AND who can start Tom Tom without the BT GPS mouse 'connected' post their setting of this key??

Okay, i've not cooked my own extended rom. I'm using the stock standard one from iMate.
I did find something odd today. I went into an IT expo and I turned flight-mode on. When I was finished I left and turned flight mode off. Then got in my car. I tried to make a call and it didnt go thru the handsfree kit.
Weird! I had to repair the device. So I did... and it all worked fine again. So I turned flight mode back on then off, and I ended up with the same result. It appears to lose the pairing when you turn the flight mode on.
Very odd!

I still have not found a solution to the behaviour where TomTom locks up the MDA with is isnt able to connect to my BT GPS.
Today I found out that this same behavious accurs on devices (not just MDA, HP too) that use a serial (wired) GPS when they take the current off the GPS . . .
That means:
1. TomTom Navigator can't cope with the situation where it cant connect to the GPS that is installed
2. With me TomTom navigator is not able to use the Bluetooth protocol on its side to cope with the (for Bluetooth GPS quite usual) unavailability of the BT GPS.
Again: Can anyone post me some info on this :?: :?:
Especially the registry items under
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SerialPort]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dun]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dcn]
are of interest

@ Klink
Thanks for sharing your experiences, I'm watching them with interest.
Just wanted to as you about using your navman and the headset at the same time.
In your first post to this topic, you mentioned your 'carpark' test. I assume you weren't moving at the time, so the navman wasn't trying to give you directions.
What happens when you're driving along, getting instructions (ie. "turn left in 300m") from your navman, and the phone rings? Does the navman stop giving directions while you are talking on the phone using your BT handsfree? When you hang up does it resume giving directions again?
Thanks,
Hooligan

Emtact Trine BT GPS, Bluetrek G3 BT Headset
Like all of you my exprience is that it all works together.
But I've one problem. When navigating with TomTom and there is a incoming phone call and when I accept the call with my headset TomTom continues navigating but the sound of my QTEK2020 is muted during the call. So the instructions of TomTom cannot be heard.
I'm using plain MS BT Stack.
Regards,
Mark

This behaviour seems not the be dependent of the use of a BT headset. I have a carkit and during a call TomTom stays active in background. Sound of TomTom is muted however, which I find nice.
When the phone call is ended, TomTom starts talking again.(also nice)

first of all my nevigation program works great with the jabra 250 bt , it also mutes the program during a call is madeqreceived but :
there is anothe program that is called "ontime" that sends trqaffic status to the imate, using the gprs andthen calculates the fastest root( from junction to juction) and the problem is:
if i want to use buth progtams with royaltek gps bt rbt1000 they both need the com5 port fot bt.
to solve this problem one can use a prog called: "gpsgate" which makes a virtual port for the programs to use so u can use several program with one bt device.
for some it works only with bt tools, for others it doesnt work at all, gos knows why?!
but - if any1 needs a solution - here is one.
have a nice day , spark
QTEK 2020 - 1.72.00 WWE - 1.06.01
Back Pack - jabra 250 BT- royaltek rbt 1000 GPS BT - DESTINATOR3(LIKE TOM TOM 3) - soon will recieve sd 1gb*40

Spark, where did you get 'gpsgate'??

here is the link
http://franson.biz/gpsgate/download.asp

TomTom 5 & XDA 2

Hi, Firstly thank's for posting the unlock code's for Xda 2 , very good , However i use the 3 network ( somebodys got to) and it is still locked , so i,m using my old pay as you go sim, but that's not the prob, when using tomtom 5 (and 3) and i get a call come through tom tom freezes up and will only work again after a soft restart , has any body else suffered the same or know of any fix's????? Cheer's in anticipation steve.

well i have tomtom5 and the only bug is that it doesnt lite up the screen !

Sorry for not replying been away , have seen in the forum that frezing is very common . I hav'nt encountered no back light prob so cant help i'm affaid . Thank's for the imput anyway . steve

Tom Tom 5 and XDA 2
I recently upgraded from TT3 to TT5, the only real problem I get is the phone ringer and caller display does not ring or display propperly.
My Jabra BT250 is slow in responding and answering when the button is pressed.
One other bugbare is not being able to see the Start Menu Bar when running TT5 as unable to see if you have a phone signal or received a text or missed a call.
Any help on these matters would be greatly apprecieated.
Thanks
ROM 1.7.2.00WWE
Radio 1.17.00
Ext Rom 1.72.18i1

It seem's every xda has different problem's , when my phone ring's it do's take a second to ring in the BT headset and about another second when the button is pressed to answer the call , and i get a balloon come up to say who is calling but i think that is part of Fonix voice dial. Icannot see away round including the start menu while running tt5 or 3 , so does tom tom freeze when you get a call or change phone arials??, sorry i could'nt be any more help
rom v, 1.72.00
radio v 1.17.00
ext rom v 1.72.181

I have been using TT3 extensively past year and recently upgraded to TT5.
No real issues.
THE issue with TT3 was that when my BT GPS was out of reach and i started TT3, it almost locked up my whole device (had to soft-reset). I found out is has something to do with my BT GPS. Aparantly WM2003SE does not have this issue.
next to this, I noticed frequent freezes IF I had actoivated POI. Tested this with several (also Toshiba and Panasonic made) SD Cards.
With TT5 these problems are gone.
The only thing I noticed when using TT5 is when I try to start a phne call the display is not properly build up: all except the numbered buttons are there.
No freezes whatsoever here anymore.
All in all still an improvement.

Tom tom 5 icm socket/emtac gps
I upgraded to ttn5 but cant get my gps to fix
emtac BT gps
in Bt menu my pairing is ok, but when I select a ' other BT gps ' it doesnt recognise it.
The options are BT on com 6 (but I dont have a com6)
or com9 or com2
any Ideas how to activate those com ports ?
Thanx
Rob
Qtec 2020, emtac BT gps, TTN5

use tomtom5patch from this site and place it in startup folder, then soft reset and try again

use tomtom5patch from this site and place it in startup folder, then soft reset and try again

@pleun: Where do we find this patch (searched for it but no results) and what does it do?

Advice
I'm considering buying TT5 but am a bit concerned about all the problems people are having. I noticed on tomtom's website it is compatible with the XDA 2. Would it be best to buy this package as it all comes complete on an SD card tomtom have tested, or, go for TT3 - people are selling these on ebay really cheap??

TT5 and XDA2
I am running TT5 with the GB Plus map on the XDA2 without any problems.
You must use a BT or serial GPS connection. Get a good mount which has a RJ11 connector for the TT serial GPS or use a Y cable for something like the HAICOM PS2.
XDA2 512 SD
SIN MERGED
RADIO 1.8
WM2003SE

it makes com 5 visible to tomtom.

Could you guys please comment about my problem?

Hi All,
I seem to be having Bluetooth problems with my dutch t-mobile mda compact:
I am using a simple bluetooth headset - it's got no brand name - but I know it works fine beacuse before getting the mda compact I have used it with my Nokia 6310i and it works fine.
Anyhow, I pair the headset with my mda with no problem and it may work all day long without any problem - but... if for instance I leave the room with my headset - leaving the phone behind - which essentially disconnects the BT headset and the phone - when I come back the phone doesn't recognize the headset no matter what I do. The headset icon on the top of the phone disappears and oesn't come back. I reset the phone, I cliick on the headset answer button, I turn on and off the bluetooth on the phone, I switch on and off the headset - nothing helps!
The only solution that I found working is to delete the headset from the bluetooth devices in the mda and then rediscover the headset which works like a charm. All goes back to normal unitl the next time that it loses connection. I think the phone also sometimes loses connection when I am not using the headset for a long time (and hour or so)...
What can I do?? this is really driving me crazy. I have no problems when using the same headset with my nokia 6310i - but hey, I want to use the MDA!!!
My device: MDA COMPACT - T-Mobile Netherlands
Rom - 1.01.00 WWE
Radio - 1.00.10
Protocol - 1337.36
Ext Rom - 1.01.124 WWE
Thanks you guys for helping me
Ciao,
Lisa

hey Lisa..
i've noticed ur device informations are the following:
My device: MDA COMPACT - T-Mobile Netherlands
Rom - 1.01.00 WWE
Radio - 1.00.10
Protocol - 1337.36
Ext Rom - 1.01.124 WWE
they are too old :wink:
I have not experienced a problem like urs before,but i recommend u to upgrade ur device(the latest ROM version is 1.12.00,as much as i know :wink: ),u can find it in the ftp server,wich u can access from the wiki page(top left of ur page)...
if ur new to PDAs,then u have to know that ur device is a Magician,so search the ftp in the Magician folder :wink:
if u don't know how to upgrade ur device,u just have to ask,i will guide ur to the steps with pleasure
hope i've helped...
RAGO :lol:

Thanks Rago.
I was kind of wondering which one of the ROMs I should pick? When logging on to the FTP directory - there are lot's of shipped Magician Roms... Many show 112 - but which one should I take?
Is there any issue with the new Roms? Bluetooth problems?
Regards,
Lisa

hi lisa
best available workaround is to buy zenduris pocket zenphone software (do a search here at xda-developers). this program enables the headset profile permanently so your mda will be able to re-connect with your headset again, when you are back in the room.
cheers, lutz

Hi Lutz,
Thanks again for helping me
So you are using the word "workaround" - is this a known problem or it this just a problem with my device?
Am I to assume that there is a problem with the BT can can only be worked around and not solved permanently?
Does any of the new Roms solve this?
Bye,
Lisa

hi lisa
well there may be a rom that acts different but i won't force you to flash your device certain times with all the risks just to find out that it doesn't work! zenduris pocket zenphone really fixes the issue permanently and is definitely the best way to do it. i myself use the german o2 xda mini rom and it works well with my parrot ck3100 and reconnects with it the way it should while all the other (german) rom versions did not. but i guess you won't flash your device with a german rom, right...
cheers, lutz

bluetooth car phone probs

I have a t-mobile mda II with the shipped rom that has the usual problem with the bt turning on and off.
I have tried most of the fixes posted, only way I could get a reliable connection was to plug the car charger in and leave the display on.
Have had a good trawl through the bluetooth sections of the registry and noticed a key hklm\software\microsoft\bluetooth\sys and key DisableAutoSuspend as shipped this has a value of 1.
I have changed this value to a 0 and done a soft reset for last 2 days my ck3100 has not lost the connection with the mda II running on battery in suspend mode.
may be worth a try

I'll give it a try on my TyTn this evening.
Sure hope this fixes the problem with the connection dropping all the time and BT turning itself off when using it on my Audi MMI BT carkit.

played telephone tennis between t-mobile and htc uk today.. Finaly ended up talking to a chap called John at HTC, who said they were aware of an issue and were in the final stages of testing a release rom update..
T-Mobile had never heard of the mda vario II disconnecting from bt car kits.
Have notice if i do a soft reset and do not connect back to gprs or 3g (so i have a x instead of a g/3g simbol ) the bt connection is much more reliable

woke said:
I'll give it a try on my TyTn this evening.
Sure hope this fixes the problem with the connection dropping all the time and BT turning itself off when using it on my Audi MMI BT carkit.
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Still the same ... guess it will be waiting for a new ROM ...

HP Ipaq 614c GPS and Bluetooth annoyances

Hi there, 2 questions:
1) The built-in GPS receiver turns OFF when switching the device standby - that's really bad for me because I like to log my GPS track when I go hiking. Is there any setting (registry? hack?) to tell GPS NOT to turn off?
2) I thought of a "workaround" to use my old Holux GPS bluetooth mouse. Pairing works, but after switching the device in standy mode, it TURNS ITSELF ON AGAIN!!! (after 3 seconds) - so battery is again burned. Is there any setting to tell the device NOT to turn itself on? It seems to be the case with any kind of incoming bluetooth connection, the screen goes on. That's really bad for me...
So anyone can help? Is it a generic WM 6.0 annoyance or an Ipaq 614 "special"?
Greetz B.

go to battery settings and let the device work with no time limt
then use this app
http://www.mobiletopsoft.com/board/1313/turn-your-pocket-pc-screen-off-with-awady-screenoff.html
(there are more freeware for this issue )