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Fortuna GPS & updated rom

My blue tooth fortuna clip on will not respond to the XDAII with the updated rom, which suports serial ports. has anyone else had this problem, do I need to down load the BT tools patch again & if so can some one remind me of the web address
Ta

HI i have the GPSmart BT verision
and i have alos updated the ROm on my XDA II
all i can say is it works very very well i did have a delay when using
TOMTOM and that has now gone
Hope this help you out

I am also using the BT GPS Clip-on with the XDA II. Works perfectly after the O2 update. I'm using Tomtom 2 with the 2.09 GPS update from their website. Im not using it with the com port option, I'm using it as a Tomtom BT device.

Foruna clip on problems
I still can't get the tom tom gps driver to recognise / show information from the Clip on BT gps. I downloaded the latest driver from the tom tom site but still no luck. tom tom's gps drivers do not show the fortuna clip on. I have tried rebonding it with and without the serial port option. When I'm in the tom tom GPS page what GPS driver do I need and what com port do I select and do I need to set it up as com port 5 when I bond the gps????????

Well if you have the rom upgrade installed and you are using V 2.09 of the TOMTOM GPS drivers you can select
the device a TOMTOM Wireless GPS
and set the com port bit to Bluetooth GPS
I use this setup and have never had a problem
Hope this helps

I tried that but no luck, it would not show any satelite info on the gps pages. I notice in the blue tooth settings you can select com ports 4 & 5 for recieving and transmitting , what should these be set to? also when you bonded the fortuna, did you select the serial port option ?
Ta :x

Hi
It souds like you dont have the latest ver of the gps drivers fromtomtom installed
on V2.08 there was no mention of Bluetooth so i think you have that ver installed
And yes when i bonded with the GPSMART it asks me if i want to use the serial profile
Do you have ver 2.09 ? if not i can post it on here for you

pjcltd said:
Do you have ver 2.09 ? if not i can post it on here for you
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Please do :lol:

OK here is the GPS Drives as from the TOMTOM website

pjcltd said:
And yes when i bonded with the GPSMART it asks me if i want to use the serial profile
Do you have ver 2.09 ? if not i can post it on here for you
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sundownerspars said:
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 20:38
I tried that but no luck, it would not show any satelite info on the gps pages.
what should these be set to? also when you bonded the fortuna, did you select the serial port option ?
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I too have same problem - have 2.09 gps but now not getting info, it bonds ok, but won't display any tracked sats, do i need to say yes to serial when bonding?

Yes you must say to to it or it will not work
(that is if you have the updated Rom installed)

pjcltd said:
Yes you must say to to it or it will not work
(that is if you have the updated Rom installed)
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All working now :lol:

now the back light drops out
I have tried reloading the ROM upgrade and reloading the Tom tom 2 software and latest drivers from the Tom Tom site (ver2.09GPS driver)
I still am having problems with the fortuna GPS. In tom Tom GPS it does not show any satelites and the little sat dish to PDA legends on the right hand side show no communication
Now the Back light drops out without warning and when I check the back light settings it has reverted to no back light on the battery power! (yes the battery is fully charged) and I keep getting a communication error popping up saying (cannot start communications with desk top computer" and the XDA 2 is not even in it's cradle
HELP!!!
I'm tempted to send it back to O2 for them to sort it out. :evil:

I have used fortuna gpsmart with xda2 with standard rom and had no problems, is it possible for you to download the launchrom from the O2 site and see if that will get you back where you started. You could also try unbonding everything then after loading the latest bthtools rebond and try that.

It worked fine with the original ROM & BT tools patch. I cant find the original rom on O2's site. May be I downloaded a corupt version even though it said updated ok? It took so long to down load on a dial up connection ( Damn XP at work on a broad band connection wont let any one apart from the administrator download programs!!!)
Do O2 send out discs with the rom update on them?

Also just noticed, when I try to turn it off on the power button all that happens is that the backlight turns off and the isplay is still there allbeit very faint. Still at least my BT200 works now!

I had the same problem for a few days after I got the Fortuna, but all went OK, not sure how I did it really, just kept, trying
I wonder if anyone can help me with a problem, sometimes I want to start TomTom2 with no GPS, just to do a quick route for someone, but when I start it, it locks up (presumably cause it cant find Bluetooth), I cant go into the GPS app to turn GPS off with the tick. The only way I can do it is turn on the Fortuna, THEN untick in the GPS app - very messy. Is there anyway to start TomTom without GPS/Bluetooth active?

Multiple Bluetooth Devices

Hi there guys, its been a while since posting but I have some great news regarding using multiple bluetooth devices in the car.
A few weeks ago I purchased a Navman 4410 GPS unit for my XDAII. With the new "72" rom the Navman worked perfectly with my XDAII straight out of the box over bluetooth.
Today I installed a Sony Ericsson HBC-30 bluetooth hands free carkit (Which also worked perfectly out of the box). I was interested to know if I could have the GPS unit operating and have the handsfree carkit working at the same time.
I was simply sitting in the carpark, with the GPS connected and onscreen, then I used my other phone to call my XDAII... the call came up on screen (interrupting the GPS screen) I pressed the "answer" button on the Sony Ericsson handsfree kit, and the call came through perfectly!
Once finished with the call I pressed the "hangup" button on the handsfree kit, and then a few quick taps on the screen returned me to the GPS navigation screen.
Certainly not perfect, however it appears that the bluetooth issues are finally getting resolved, and allowing us to begin using the XDAII as it was intended.

Hi Colonel, thanks for your update, it is comforting to know that they are finally sorting out BT problems.
Is there any way to get the phone screen to automatically close after finishing a call? so I don't have to manually close it to get back to my GPS screen?

No I dont think you can. Not without altering the GPS software to continually make sure its "on top" of other windows... but then you'd have a problem with seeing the "incoming call screen" as the GPS software would try to jump on top of it.

I'd be so happy simply if I could make HCB30 and Blutrek G2 headset work side by side on my Qtek...

points are:
1-where coul i get that da***n 1.72 rom for my xda 2
2-where could i get the g2 HS in italy(even worlwide...) or all over the web at reasonable price
help a newbie...

Kolonel,
I can confirm your experience as far as BT GPS is concerned.
I however still have one issue to solve: When the MDAII (=XDA2) can't connect to the GPS (BT off, GPS off, GPS out of reach) and I start TomTom3, TomTom3 keeps searching for the GPS which results in a almost freezing MDA2.
Using rom 1,72 from Qtek I bonded the BT GPS and confirmed the question about assigning a com port.
In TomTom I assigned this (COM5) com port.
All works fine except for the issue mentioned.
Does this sound familiar?
Clues?
BTW in the BT settings screen there is nothing shown about the assigned com port (just free space next to the two lines that should indicate the in- and outbound com ports). I found COM5 to be assigned to BT by trial and error . . .

edsub said:
Kolonel,
I can confirm your experience as far as BT GPS is concerned.
I however still have one issue to solve: When the MDAII (=XDA2) can't connect to the GPS (BT off, GPS off, GPS out of reach) and I start TomTom3, TomTom3 keeps searching for the GPS which results in a almost freezing MDA2.
Using rom 1,72 from Qtek I bonded the BT GPS and confirmed the question about assigning a com port.
In TomTom I assigned this (COM5) com port.
All works fine except for the issue mentioned.
Does this sound familiar?
Clues?
BTW in the BT settings screen there is nothing shown about the assigned com port (just free space next to the two lines that should indicate the in- and outbound com ports). I found COM5 to be assigned to BT by trial and error . . .
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edsub,
Are you using "Bluetooth Tools"? Because I am not, i'm using the native bluetooth stack only.
I am using "Outbound" Com port 5 ONLY for my GPS. My 1.72 rom is the IMATE rom.
Im afraid that i'm not familiar with tomtom. So I cant help you there, sorry.

I am deliberately only using native MS bT stack.
I am only using COM5 for GPS too
What does the BT Settings show under
"Bluetooth Serial Port Setup"?
With me:
"Outbound COM port" checked, but after the colon is a "<not present>" shown.
"Inbound COM port" UNchecked, after the colon is a grayed-out "<not present>" shown.
Like i said I AM able to use the GPS via COM5.
Maybe this issue is a pure TomTom issue, I think your answer could clarify that.

edsub said:
I am deliberately only using native MS bT stack.
I am only using COM5 for GPS too
What does the BT Settings show under
"Bluetooth Serial Port Setup"?
With me:
"Outbound COM port" checked, but after the colon is a "<not present>" shown.
"Inbound COM port" UNchecked, after the colon is a grayed-out "<not present>" shown.
Like i said I AM able to use the GPS via COM5.
Maybe this issue is a pure TomTom issue, I think your answer could clarify that.
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Edsub, thats really weird... mine is:
"Inbound COM port:" UN checked, and after the colon is a grayed out "COM4"
"Outbound COM port:" checked, and after the colon is a black "COM5"

bluetooth
hi guys
im using imate 172 and tomtom 3 with a sony ericsson hb35 it works first time all the time with the standard stack. it works that good i even went and sold my carkit and just got a hold instead :lol:

@Kolonel Klink: I guessed it's strange. What ROM are you using exactly (OS & Extended).
I use the 1.72 Qtek rom with my own Extended Rom (wich is based on the Qtek ExtRom to which I added T-Mobile Nl customisations). I am sure there is nothing regarding Bluetooth in my ExtRom.
I heard from someone who uses the iMate 1.72 OS Rom (with his own cooked ExtRom) that he has the same results as you have.
Just trying to find to cause of this. Maybe I have to reflash to the iMate 1.72?? (shouldnt make a difference as both iMate and Qtek OS ROM's are the same 1.72.00WWE . . . .)
@freelockuk: Most interesting is the origin of your ExtRom. Arent there any Bluetooth enhancements in that ExtRom (like there were in the 1.60.36 T-Mobile NL ExtRom) that maybe make your 1.72 work better than mine concerning Bluetooth?

addition to prev post:
I noticed that there were two BT registry settings missing to get the assigned COMport show in BT Settings.
Also noticed another interesting value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dun]
With me this one is:
"port"="BSP9:"
In prev versions it was:
"port"="BSP4:"
Can anyone with a 1.72 ROM that has a BT GPS mouse working via SPP AND who can start Tom Tom without the BT GPS mouse 'connected' post their setting of this key??

Okay, i've not cooked my own extended rom. I'm using the stock standard one from iMate.
I did find something odd today. I went into an IT expo and I turned flight-mode on. When I was finished I left and turned flight mode off. Then got in my car. I tried to make a call and it didnt go thru the handsfree kit.
Weird! I had to repair the device. So I did... and it all worked fine again. So I turned flight mode back on then off, and I ended up with the same result. It appears to lose the pairing when you turn the flight mode on.
Very odd!

I still have not found a solution to the behaviour where TomTom locks up the MDA with is isnt able to connect to my BT GPS.
Today I found out that this same behavious accurs on devices (not just MDA, HP too) that use a serial (wired) GPS when they take the current off the GPS . . .
That means:
1. TomTom Navigator can't cope with the situation where it cant connect to the GPS that is installed
2. With me TomTom navigator is not able to use the Bluetooth protocol on its side to cope with the (for Bluetooth GPS quite usual) unavailability of the BT GPS.
Again: Can anyone post me some info on this :?: :?:
Especially the registry items under
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SerialPort]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dun]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dcn]
are of interest

@ Klink
Thanks for sharing your experiences, I'm watching them with interest.
Just wanted to as you about using your navman and the headset at the same time.
In your first post to this topic, you mentioned your 'carpark' test. I assume you weren't moving at the time, so the navman wasn't trying to give you directions.
What happens when you're driving along, getting instructions (ie. "turn left in 300m") from your navman, and the phone rings? Does the navman stop giving directions while you are talking on the phone using your BT handsfree? When you hang up does it resume giving directions again?
Thanks,
Hooligan

Emtact Trine BT GPS, Bluetrek G3 BT Headset
Like all of you my exprience is that it all works together.
But I've one problem. When navigating with TomTom and there is a incoming phone call and when I accept the call with my headset TomTom continues navigating but the sound of my QTEK2020 is muted during the call. So the instructions of TomTom cannot be heard.
I'm using plain MS BT Stack.
Regards,
Mark

This behaviour seems not the be dependent of the use of a BT headset. I have a carkit and during a call TomTom stays active in background. Sound of TomTom is muted however, which I find nice.
When the phone call is ended, TomTom starts talking again.(also nice)

first of all my nevigation program works great with the jabra 250 bt , it also mutes the program during a call is madeqreceived but :
there is anothe program that is called "ontime" that sends trqaffic status to the imate, using the gprs andthen calculates the fastest root( from junction to juction) and the problem is:
if i want to use buth progtams with royaltek gps bt rbt1000 they both need the com5 port fot bt.
to solve this problem one can use a prog called: "gpsgate" which makes a virtual port for the programs to use so u can use several program with one bt device.
for some it works only with bt tools, for others it doesnt work at all, gos knows why?!
but - if any1 needs a solution - here is one.
have a nice day , spark
QTEK 2020 - 1.72.00 WWE - 1.06.01
Back Pack - jabra 250 BT- royaltek rbt 1000 GPS BT - DESTINATOR3(LIKE TOM TOM 3) - soon will recieve sd 1gb*40

Spark, where did you get 'gpsgate'??

here is the link
http://franson.biz/gpsgate/download.asp

TomTom 3 & calls

Hi I have an O2 XDA2i. while navigating with tomtom, if a call comes in and I answer it I cannot hear anyone, not sure if they can hear me either. I am using a Bluetooth GPS. Does anybody have a fix for this? or am I alone in this problem ? Also, even if I close tomtom down I cannot get hear anything while making a call...only option is to reset the phone.
...grrrrr.......
on a side note..... Does anyone have an XDA2i that has a blutooth car kit that works without echos?
Cheers,
Gary.

Installing the Tom Tom GPS 3.07 update reslved a lot of the problems I have using Tom Tom BT and a BT headset.
Install it after everything else and remove SD card before install.
still locks up every now and again but its about as good as I can get it to work.
Tom Tom don;t seem to give a damn about this problem.
There's nothing like a satisfied customer and I'm nothing like a satisfied customer

@princegary
please check this link:
http://www.tomtom.com/support/right...n/uk.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1719
as tomtom declares:
...Therefore this update can also be used if you have:
an HP63xx Pocket PC (+ Bluetooth GPS)
MDA2/XDA2/QTEK2020
so it is not really for xda2i, but you'll see... (I don't see a reason for not working with it)
@ Fritz
Fritz said:
Installing the Tom Tom GPS 3.07 update reslved a lot of the problems I have using Tom Tom BT and a BT headset.
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I do not know, that you only mistyped or really used TomTom GPS 3.07 INSTEAD OF TomTom Navigator 3.07, but if so - give it another try...
Maybe it helps to be satisfied! 8)

I tried the full 3.07 update and same problem still existsed.
I've now installed the 5.0 upgrade and this does seem to have resolved the problem.
All is not perfect as Tom Tom has stopped running twice for no apparent reason but all I need do is restart the application. I think it might be more to do with it loosing the GPS BT signal rather than a problem with the software compatibility. Only two days in so I'll let you all know how I get on through the week.

the only problem I had with tt3.07 on my xdaII, that sometimes it loaded so slowly, I started it more than once - after a soft reset, the problem's gone
but never stopped during/because of a call (neither destinator 3.075 did so far)
so, maybe just your device...
I upgraded to wm2005g and tt5 and having no problem at all (so far :wink: )

As I mentioned TTN5 seems much better, much more stable.
Would love to upgrade to WM2005 but as I understand it it doesn't work on the XDA2i only the XDA2 and the XDA2s.

HI there,
Does TOMTOM 5 work fine on XDA IIi? I have just read another forum here, that TOMTOM 5 is not compatible with the XDA IIi
I am about to upgrade and get the XDA IIi, i would appreciate if you could let me know.
thanks
nya

I upgraded across the weekend and so far Tom Tom Nav 5 has worked pretty well on the XDA2i.
As mentioned it has given up on me twice but I don't think this is due to incompatibility

thanks for the quick reply, just one more question please what GPS receiver are you using?
thanks in advance
Regards
nya

It's unbadged, bought it off of e-bay, please see link below
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5771460756&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1

I installed TomTom 5 and the problem is solved! Call came in and I thought Damn... but I picked up the call and it was fine TomTom even resumed after the call which I was amazed at.
My only problem now is that I got a new 1gb card and tomtom hates it, or atleast my XDA2i does. Would it be better for me to just buy a 512mb for my sat nav apps? or is there a recommended brand of 1/2gb card that works happily on the XDA2i and TOMTOM 5?

Problem bluetooth - GPS and Parrot CarKit

anyone has the same problem ?
When I'm using TomTom 5 as navigator and i receive or make a phone call, the navigator stops everything and when a finished my phone call everything comes back again.
Why ?????

I have the same and I thought it was normal beacuse the bt can handle only one device, isn't it?

No
You are wrong because usually bluetooth allow only 1 connection per time of different kind!
For example 1 voice connection to the carkit and 1 data connection to the gps!
Before I had a Nokia 6630 and everything worked perfectly !
Post your appreciated comments!
Bye

Re: No
filippino said:
You are wrong because usually bluetooth allow only 1 connection per time of different kind!
For example 1 voice connection to the carkit and 1 data connection to the gps!
Before I had a Nokia 6630 and everything worked perfectly !
Post your appreciated comments!
Bye
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In fact, I did manage to get 3 connections (GPS, Headset, ActiveSync) at one time w/o problem.
To answer yr original question, my Tomtom 5.0 works fine on phone call.

Help
So can you help me to solve my problem ?
I have an IMate Jam with Rom 1.11 italian,
what's your version ??
Maybe you have updated the bluetooth stack ?
Thanx !

Help
So can you help me to solve my problem ?
I have an IMate Jam with Rom 1.11 italian,
what's your version ??
Maybe you have updated the bluetooth stack ?
Thanx !

BTW, I am using GPS Gate all the time so that I can open 2 GPS software (TT and Routis 2). Maybe that's another reason I didn't have problem.

I have the same problem.
I am using i TREK GPS and Jabra 800.
When im navigating, and in the middle I receieve a phone call, the GPS connection hangs even after the phone call ends.
I usualy make a SR after that and continue navigating.
What is the problem??
Thank you

Same story is with my MDA T-Mobile Compact:
EVERY (I stress it) EVERY time I use it with Jabra BT-800 and GPS receiver BT-338 when OziExplorerCE is on for a short time suddenly Ozi hangs. I try to restart it - no way, when BT option is touched, Magician says: NO BT HARDWARE ON THIS DEVICE INSTALLED. Only SR (sometimes even only HR) helps.
Tried to use JAM_Bluetooth_No_Hardware_Patch-1.CAB - it does not help.
Is there a solution? GURU, wake up, please!

Same sad story. This time it's about PocketGPSMoscow software, GPS BT-338 and SBH-100 BT Hand-free.
Every time there is an incoming call, the device looses BT connection to the GPS module.
Turning BT on and off does help,but doesn't bring much comfort. I hope this is not the BT-338 problem.
Should anyone have any bright ideas on how to find a solution to the problem, many will be very greateful.

It's strange. I really doesn't have any problem w/ my Imate Jam (flashed w/ O2 Traditional Chinese 1.11 rom) using my TomTom BT GPS w/ Sony HBH 600 BT headset.
Maybe you guys can try the following to see if it works. (for rom of 1.11 or later)
1. pair yr GPS w/ the pda.
2. In BT Com port setting, make sure both incoming port for Com4 and outgoing port for Com5 is check
3. Install GPSGate, set input port as Com5 and create virtual port Com6
4. Uninstall TomTom BT GPS driver since U doesn't need it at all
5. In TomTom GPS setting, choose "Other GPS" and choose "Franson VSerial Com6"
Let me know if this works 4 U or not.

Anybody try to upgrate/downgrate the rom version? One man in GSM service said, that BT doesn't work propriety with LEng Keybord install to 1.11 version rom. M.b. with TomTom thу same problem?

If you ask me : the problem isn't with your BT but with the phone.
I only use an GPS BT receiver and if somebody calls me, i pick up the phone and also then the GPS disconnects until the call ended ...

zoom21 said:
Anybody try to upgrate/downgrate the rom version? One man in GSM service said, that BT doesn't work propriety with LEng Keybord install to 1.11 version rom. M.b. with TomTom thу same problem?
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I've got 1.12 and I'm sure GSM is not involved - BT is the dead fish.
Every time I have a BT connection with Jabra and BT-338 simultaneously, EVEN when there is NO incoming calls, BT + GPS hang the Magician.
Unfortunately I do not remember if this bug happens when Only BT-338 is connected. Will check and report.

Clash Between BT Headset & GPS

Can anyone help with this,
I have an O2 Exec (Latest O2 ROM etc)
I have a Bluetooth GPS & Bluetooth Headset, when using the GPS, if a call comes in I can answer it on the headset, but the GPS goes all screwy, starts losing position, even after the call is ended the GPS is erratic
I have installed Buzzs Bluetooth Patch, and no effect,
Its a bit of a pain if I can't use a Bluetooth headset and GPS at the same time.
Anyone had this and found a cure?.
EXEC, Details are
1.13.82 WWE
11/30/05
1.04.02
42.37.P8
1.13.118 WWE
Help appreciated
Thanks
Richard

Richard im on the same rom as you but without the bt patch and ive no problems

alix776,
I will try it again later on, I had the problem before I installed the patch, so I installed it to see if it cured it, but it didn't
I will do a hard rest later and start from scratch again, see if that helps,
I didn't have any problems using the same BT Headset on an XDA 2i, so assumed it would work ok on the EXEC, the only change to the setup is the GPS unit, I am using a really cheap and cruddy £30 jobbie off ebay (Its only 8 Ch, and seems a bit flaky!),
I will have a new Sirf3 unit arriving in a few days, so can try that to see if the problem is with the cheap BT GPS!.
I need to get a solution sorted in the next 10 days before going back to work in the US, or I will have to take the TTOne with me if I can't get this setup working 100%
Cheers
Richard

Alix
I just tried it again from a hard reset and the same problem
GPS works fine till I answer a call, then It stalls and loses GPS Position till I hang up, then GPS connects again but there is massive lag and the Map is nowhere near its true position,
Not cured until you exit TT and restart,
How did you install TT, I copied the cabs across and installed from the SD, I paired the GPS and set it to COM0, then in TT5 selected Other Bluetooth GPS and COM0.. am I doing something wrong with the way I am trying to get it installed
This has always worked on all the other systems I have used!
Cheers
Richard

I have the same problem and other...
I have the same problem when using Tom Tom ,if I pick a call with my BT headset the gps lost the position and when I close the phone call TT says No GPS device.......it restarts by himself after few mins , but the position is uncorrect, it has like a sort of delay, the arrow on the display "follows me" 2 or 3 Km behind.
So, mi car is quite fast..but be faster than a navigation device is very funny...
Btw my gps antena is an Hamlet HBTGPS
Other problem I have is that Tomtom 5.21 don't allow me to use my TT5.00 maps,it only see Italy ,Iberia and UK...
I think I will get Navigon asap....
Bye...

just a thought have you tried formating the storage card and reinstalling the map just back it up first in using a sirf3 apos and jabra 250v headset ive also used a ttmk2 bt receiver with no probs either

Same here
I am also getting this issue on an SPW M5000, flashed to the Imate test rom. I don't know if it was happening before on the original (crappy) orange rom that it shipped with as I had to upgrade my GPS to a bluetooth from a mouse.
It is a real pain not being able to use them both together and I'm tied to the phone with a wire at the minute.
Any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated.