Hi, is it possible to customise what is installed on a hard reset? As when the device says customizing in 3 seconds the cabs in the extended rom are installed.
I particularly noticed this on the Custom ROM designed by Button, he/she had total commander and a few other cabs installing at this point.
I would be grateful if any one knows how please?
Thanks.
do a soft reset when u see the 'customising in 3,2,1'
then install totalcommander and type \ExtendedROM into it and u see the ExtRom contents.
install at will from there.
do a search here on extrom install for more lengthy descriptions.
hih
joe
I would unlock (unhide, clean, install, re-hide) my ExtRom but I haven't found a procedure for Prophet.
Could I use any other PPC procedure/soft or is it different ?
Any hint where to search ?
Thanks
BUMP, please!
Tried this?
I have read here and at other sites such as buzzdev that the wizard unlocker works. It works "sort-of" for me. I don't know what I did before, but I added a ringtones folder long time ago, and I'm now unable to delete it. After a soft reset, it comes back.
You can try it. Others have had success
hi to the list,
i would like to copy some programs in the Extended Rom of my new HTC P-3600 so when i format it,They will be automatically installed.
I have unhide the Extended Rom but when i try to copy a program file into the Extended Rom folder,i get an error that say like it is write protected.
Please anybody can tell me how to do?
Thanks in advance
Enzo
I know it won't help, but I have exactly the same problem...
I successfuly unhide ExtRom, but no way to write something in it...
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Hi all !
I tried to unlock extended ROM of my P3600 - but like another user in thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273424&page=3&highlight=tytn+extended+rom - described - after changing the registry keys and soft reset the device - the registry keys show the original values and extended ROM is still hidden.
Would you be so kind and describe how unlocking the extended ROM worked with your device ?
Thanks in advance !
Gerhard
mdacfan said:
Hi all !
I tried to unlock extended ROM of my P3600 - but like another user in thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273424&page=3&highlight=tytn+extended+rom - described - after changing the registry keys and soft reset the device - the registry keys show the original values and extended ROM is still hidden.
Would you be so kind and describe how unlocking the extended ROM worked with your device ?
Thanks in advance !
Gerhard
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In another thread I read (don't recall which one) that you need to exit (not minimize) the registry editor prior to the soft reset, otherwise the changes in the registry won't stick.
Maybe this helps?
emay said:
In another thread I read (don't recall which one) that you need to exit (not minimize) the registry editor prior to the soft reset, otherwise the changes in the registry won't stick.
Maybe this helps?
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Hi folks,
AFAIK in my opinion it is not necessary to close active applications instead of minimize, simply turn off the device and wait about 20 seconds before soft reset cause wm05 needs this time to flush the modify into the registry, or in alternative soft reset via a software instead stylus+hole. This is a known caratteristict of wm05 if you do a google search you'll find many threads about taht.
Hope this help, if I'm not wrong...
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Unlock successfull
Many thanks - waiting about 20 seconds before soft reset worked fine. Now the extended ROM is visible. Still read only but i am optimistic.
Gerhard
wich key i have to modify to obtain my ROM visible ?
mdacfan said:
Many thanks - waiting about 20 seconds before soft reset worked fine. Now the extended ROM is visible. Still read only but i am optimistic.
Gerhard
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Gerhard have you tried to copy somthing inside it'
I get that it is writ protected and cannot copy anything in it
Thanks
Enzo
Not possible to write into extended ROM
Hi Enzo !
The extended ROM is unhided but still write protected.
Greets,
Gerhard
mdacfan said:
Hi Enzo !
The extended ROM is unhided but still write protected.
Greets,
Gerhard
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By doing this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV\FATFS]
"EnableCache"=dword:00000001
Now i can del the extROM files, and write what ever i want, but when i do a softReset every thing is erased and the extROM files re-apear.
Anyone know what to do...
No Way!!!!!!!
jmarinheiro said:
By doing this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV\FATFS]
"EnableCache"=dword:00000001
Now i can del the extROM files, and write what ever i want, but when i do a softReset every thing is erased and the extROM files re-apear.
Anyone know what to do...
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I done how you said, and effectively i can copy any file i want into the extended rom but when i make a soft reset, whatever i have copied in it,
disappear.I mean i can see only the original files and nothing else.
I have also tried to copy three other files and with the Totalcommander i have marked them as read only.Made a soft reset but had the same results.
The three files were not any more visualized in the extended Rom.
Anybody had success to write into the Extended Rom without loosing the files after making a soft reset?
If yes which is the right procedure?
Thanks in advance.
Enzo
Install WM6 and use OliPro's OEM_FLASHDRV.DLL patch...
stepw said:
Install WM6 and use OliPro's OEM_FLASHDRV.DLL patch...
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Where to get it?
Does it already exsist for the HTC P-36oo
Thanks
Enzo
jmarinheiro said:
By doing this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV\FATFS]
"EnableCache"=dword:00000001
Now i can del the extROM files, and write what ever i want, but when i do a softReset every thing is erased and the extROM files re-apear.
Anyone know what to do...
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Have the same Problem.
i can now write in it but when i make a reset the files are not any more in the extended rom.They are deleted.Tried also to mark them as read only before mare the reset but have the same results.
Anybody have a clue?
Thnaks.
Enzo.
hello everyone!
i am running wm06 for a while now and have to admit, its fckng great!
i upgraded from wm2003 directly to wm06, so its like two different worlds...
but when i was upgrading, i did not manage to merge the extrom with the rest of the storage, the unhide and unlock thing just didn't work!
but as i am now sure, that i wont need to roll back to 2003 again, merging the extrom with the rest of the storage would only make it better, no disadvantages, am i right?
or am i needing the extrom in wm06?
how is it used in wm06?
or is it just wasted space....?
as u can easily see, i am still a little confused about all that....
here are some specs from my device:
ROM Version: 5.60.00 WWE
ROM Date: 03/02/05
Radio Version: 1.15.00
Protocol Version: 1337.45
ExtROM Version: - (nothing here...??? is that bad??)
STORAGE:
total: 42,92MB
in use: 28,26MB
free: 14,66MB
PROGRAM:
total: 109,12MB
in use: 40,23MB
free: 68,90MB
thx for any help,
regards,
krz
ExtROM: Extended ROM - is the section of the ROM which the distributor of the phone (eg O2, T-Mobile, iMate, etc) store their customization (eg Today theme, ring tones, extra software) data.
In WM2003 you may found your phone having hardreset quite often - thats because WM2003 use RAM as program-storage (RAM lose everything when battery is drained)
In WM5/6 you are not using RAM as a storage anymore thus not performing hardreset often (typically once during flash)
By performing ExtROM merge, you're going to have extra MB in storage. There is NO DISADVANTAGE.
Those who prefer to have an ExtROM for whatever reason (they may HardReset their phone quite often because of testing/developing/whatever) place the "ExtROM" folder in Storage Card (Memory card/SD/MMC) and after HR it gets installed as usual. Or you can install fixes and addons "one by one".
Read more information here : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Understand
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To sum it up :
You dont need to merge your ExtROM (it cost you some MB)
* How to merge / is here : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardMain
thx a lot for your answer, kerio...!!
if i understood you right, the EXTROM is of NO USE at all in WM06.
so if not merged before upgrading, it will be just invisible and unused space.... am i right?
if so, i would of course prefer to merge the EXTROM with the rest of the storage to gain more free megabytes....
will the total storage size be 60,3MB after merging, like i have seen in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326515 ?!?
is it possible to merge the EXTROM after having WM06 installed?
can i merge EXTROM without reinstalling WM06 and all programs?
btw: unhiding and unlocking is NOT working on my device....
when clicking UNHIDE, nothing happens,
when clicking UNLOCK i get the following error:
Code:
ERROR: FL_IOCTL_BDTL_HW_PROTECTION - The parameter is incorrect.
what am i doing wrong??
i know, that are a lot of questions, but i would be very thankful if someone could help me with that...
thx in advance!
regards,
krz
bump bump
I would also be interested if somebody suuggests new solutions for "big storage" as my device does accept unlock and unhide, but when using "repart_DOC.exe" it gives me errors and eosn't repartition the ROM...
Downgrade to WM2003 , play da game and flash to wm6
Xeon's got the idea. You will need to to downgrade to WM2003, unlock, unhide and repartition the extrom. Once complete then flash up to the WM6.
I had to do the same thing, as I had not correctly repartitioned the extrom when I moved up too WM5. Good luck.
hello and thx a lot for all your ansers!
how many MBs will I gain from merging EXTROM?
and is there a way to use that space without merging?
anyone knows??
i have wm2003 and i can't unhide , unlock, or format doc, cos everytime i'm trying i can see , FL_IOCTL_BDTL_HW_PROTECTION the parameter is incorrect, can anyone help me?
Nicolfa said:
Xeon's got the idea. You will need to to downgrade to WM2003, unlock, unhide and repartition the extrom. Once complete then flash up to the WM6.
I had to do the same thing, as I had not correctly repartitioned the extrom when I moved up too WM5. Good luck.
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We got the point now.
Advise the wiki should be revised as so many people are confusing about the ExtROM.
Thanks
Dear tangwd898,
lol
Have you ever read the wiki? Could you give me the parts where "you must revert back to WM2003" is missing?
kerio said:
Dear tangwd898,
lol
Have you ever read the wiki? Could you give me the parts where "you must revert back to WM2003" is missing?
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Dear kerio,
I did read the Wiki regarding the ExtROM for more than 3 three times, I can't get any informations that we can't modify the ExtROM in OS wm5.0 or wm6.0 from the thread - Understanding the Blue Angle Extended ROM:-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Understand
Understanding the Blue Angle Extended ROM
The Extended ROM is shipped as ms_.nbf and loaded with the BaUpgradeUt.exe
The ms_.nbf is extracted during the Upgrade and written to folder \Extended_Rom
The \Extended_Rom folder is hidden and read only
The Extended ROM can un hidden with the following tool Unlock tool
The Extended ROM is limited to 16MB in size
The Numbering of the Extended ROM is operator dependent:
Thus a QTEK version 1.22.225 might or might not have higher patches than a I-Mate version 1.22.62
Extended ROMs are built around the major OS release (1.22, 1.31)
It is NOT advisable to install cabs from a Extended ROM if the Windows Mobile 2003 Version are not the same
It is NOT advisable to install patches if the CE versions (1.22, 1.31) are different.
(They might have already been included in that CE version.)
Execution of the Extended ROM
CheckAutorun.exe (which is started from \Windows\Startup\CheckAutorun.lnk) executes the AutoRun.exe
AutoRun.exe is found in the \Extended_Rom Folder
AutoRun.exe reads the \Extended_Rom\Config.txt and executes the commnands in that file
The pointer for AutoRun.exe HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AutoRun is set to \Extended_ROM\AutoRun
The pointer for Config.txt HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AutoRunCFG is set to \Extended_ROM\AutoRunCFG
The Touch screen is disabled by the first command (TPDisable.exe)in the Config.txt
The Touch screen is enabled by the 2nd to last command (TPEnable.exe)in the Config.txt
The last Command of the config.txt (RST) performs a soft reset
Content of the Extended ROM
The Extended ROM consists of System files (TPDisable.exe, TPEnable.exe, AutoRun.exe, Config.txt)
The Extended ROM consists of *.CAB installation files
The installation files fall into the following types
Applications: Album, Fax, Zip
Patches for the Hardware: Button9 on the Hardware Keyboard
Patches for the software: Blue tooth upgrade
Provider specific files and programs: Splash screen, Internet Explorer defaults, telco settings, etc.
Effects of a Hard Reset
A Hard Reset will NOT re-extract the ms_.nbf
A Hard Reset will reload the contents of the \Extended_Rom folder
A Hard Reset will reload the OS and thus also clean the registry
Why is this of interest to me?
The Extended ROM can be cooked (Customize the ROM to your own liking)
What ever you put in the \Extended_Rom folder will remain even after a Hard Reset
The \Storage will not be overwritten on a Hard Reset
Thus one is able to keep CAB files on \Storage for automatic reinstallation after a Hard Reset
You can keep your "customized" Extended ROM and only perform a OS or Radio Upgrade
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"you must revert back to WM2003" - may be found at other threads but i think this thread "Understanding the Blue Angle Extended ROM" should include this message.
Thank you.
I dont think so
When performing upgrade you should follow the instruction (WM5 and WM6 pages) when you dont - then you may find yourself in trouble.
1. The main page is only for WM2003
2. Error message -> google -> sollution (30sec)
3. You can add it to the wiki (anyone can)
Effects of a Hard Reset
A Hard Reset will NOT re-extract the ms_.nbf
A Hard Reset will reload the contents of the \Extended_Rom folder
A Hard Reset will reload the OS and thus also clean the registry
Why is this of interest to me?
The Extended ROM can be cooked (Customize the ROM to your own liking)
What ever you put in the \Extended_Rom folder will remain even after a Hard Reset The \Storage will not be overwritten on a Hard Reset
Thus one is able to keep CAB files on \Storage for automatic reinstallation after a Hard Reset
You can keep your "customized" Extended ROM and only perform a OS or Radio Upgrade
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I still have some questions:-
- Why my *.cab files in the extROM folder all missing after i done a hard Reset?
- How to keep all *.cab files in the ExtROM folder after the hard reset?
Thank you.
Guys and Gals
The BA Wiki was started over 2 years or more ago by a new guy on the forum who trying to work out how to get his German MDAIII flashed with an English rom.
He wrote it in order that the information was found in one place as he found it hard to find it in all the threads, this finding problem is still true today.
Well as you see times have changed and the porblems of WM5 and WM6 were not know at that time and as you also see not many people have bothered to invest time back into documneting in wiki. Its become more of a get and ***** about wiki not being updated than a give back some of the time in searching the threads and update wiki for the next person.
Some were in the begining it says if you don't like what you read then fix it.
This is best done by those people that are going through the learning curve as they read Wiki and they should beable to correct / add / embelish on what is written and what needs to be said.
Its a thought.
tangwd898 said:
I still have some questions:-
- Why my *.cab files in the extROM folder all missing after i done a hard Reset?
- How to keep all *.cab files in the ExtROM folder after the hard reset?
Thank you.
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Misson impossible is that type of Cab file that is no longer there after a hard reset (or when they are executed) as they delete themselves.
Change the properties to read only will solve that.
Check out the kitchen
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Things2know
Hello there.
I was doing that procedure to eliminate the ExtROM.
I read that we have to install a cab to unhide and unlock the ExtROM. I've done that. Then we need to execute the Repart_DOC.exe, when I do that an error appear:
FL_IOCTL_FORMAT_PHYSICAL_DRIVE failed.
I know, from what I've read, that an error should appear, but from what a read the formating procedure would that a little seconds, and that doesn't happens, the error occurs instantly. I went to check the ExtROM folder, after the soft reset and there still all the files..
What should I do?
Best regards
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