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Having had my XDA 2 now for a few weeks, and having finally worked out most of the kinks of the really inadequate bluetooth stack (by installing the widcomm stack) I am now moved to address my other annoyances: the very feature poor phone software.
I expected a very configurable phone, but was very disappointed with the microsoft dailer. The short list of features I find missing are:
No separate ring tones can be assigned to each contact. This could be very usefully, as you would know who is phoning without checking the screen.
No software to keep track of your calls or GPRS allowance. Even my old nokia from 3 years ago could do that.
No way to transfer a call from the handset to a headset. I know you can do it the other way around, why not this way too?
Very little status information on the dailer screen. Why is this,when most cell phone screens look like the status display on a jet?
Anyways, there is alot more, and people may want to add their annoyances. Im really wondering if there is any software that can replace the microsoft Dailer (like Pocketinformant replaces the pocket outlook).
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Surur
Took me a minute to know what you're talking about.
No, I hate the built-in dialer on the Pocket PC.
The author of mobidial (http://www.mobidial.com) told me there will be an XDA II version.. hopefully soon.
-arebelspy
hey,
just a few comments....
re: No separate ring tones can be assigned to each contact
- i beleive the o2 xda site has free software for download; one of which is called powercontacts. i believe it allows you to assign a ringtone to each contact. i tried it when i still had the xda1...never got it to work. so, i downloaded a trial version of ringtonex; it works like a charm and i'm able to assign individual ringtones to any contact i want. i immediately bought the software, i think it was for around 9usd. now that i'm using the xda2; the software still works great. for ringtones what i did was record the voice of my friends, officemates, my wife, and used those wav files for ringtones corresponding to their contacts. it also works in tandem with the photocontacts app in the xda2
re: No way to transfer a call from the handset to a headset
-the xda2 has bluetooth and i use it together with the bt200 headset. incoming and outgoing calls are automatically transferred to the headset.
2 cents worth.
cheers mate
robson
Transferring from phone to headset is a headset dependent thing. My HBH-65 allows me to transfer to phone and back to headset, but my Jabra wouldn't have.
Thx for the great pointers. I am definitely getting the RingtoneX app, and mobidail or something similar, when it comes out.
I just wish that developers would design more for handed use, not using a stylus, especially as bluetooth voicedailing does not work.
About transferring to a headset, I mean after you pick up a call with the XDA, transferring the call to a headset should be possible, but has not worked for me yet.
Another minor peeve, why is the sms option not on the dialler, but on the menu bar, and why is speaker phone also not on the front, but you have to press a key for it. There still needs to be alot of improvement. Hopefully independent programmers will kick in and fix all these deficiencies. It does make you wonder if the developers actually use their own devices or not...
Surur
Very little status information on the dailer screen. Why is this,when most cell phone screens look like the status display on a jet?
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i think it's because that most cell phones screens is their version of the today screen
i most surdenly would not wish such a confusing cluttet messy interface on my worst enemy
(yeah of cause not all cellphones are all that bad some many are)
I dont know. At least they should have the battery status on the screen, and the network logo would not be ammis either (currently its difficult to know when you have no reception, or just no reception)
Alot of the stuff thats currently in the task bar could also be bigger icons on the dailer, and it would also make it look less plain and just incomplete, as if its been thrown together at the last minute.
Surur
well not sure if it's much help but if you install some bar like advanced wisbar on your pda you'll have batt status in the bar both in today and the dialer
suppose this is a pre customised vs. free 3. party customising
some people like to set up their device with personal customising and some people want the place they buy it to handle that
in that way i suppose xda and other such devices are more like computers then std phones are
of cause if one get a xda with all the stuff in the preloaded provider rom they get more of that stuff you want
of cause thats not saying that they get enough
Ive been a user of Icbar for a long time, but as notifications is so important on a PPCPE device, and its not supported, I am not able to use it anymore. This is unfortuanate, as I enjoyed knowing what my battary status is all the time.
Surur
If you want to use your finger to dial contacts try Fingerclix by imaginet software. I used it on my Samsung I700 and now my I-Mate and it works just fine.
http://www.imaginet-software.com/index.aspx?p=fingerclix_en
This is brilliant. It would be even better if it could use the phone key insteadof loosing my contacts button. Any idea how to do htis.
Thx
Surur
vetie said:
If you want to use your finger to dial contacts try Fingerclix by imaginet software. I used it on my Samsung I700 and now my I-Mate and it works just fine.
http://www.imaginet-software.com/index.aspx?p=fingerclix_en
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Thanks Vetie for posting the link also can somebody post the link for RingTonex. Man this is great stuff! 8)
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Thanks Vetie for posting the link also can somebody post the link for RingTonex. Man this is great stuff! 8)
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http://www.mtux.com/info_ring.aspx
-arebelspy
Hi
Is there a call minute monitor program available for xda2?
I mean a program that you can reset after each month and check how many minutes you are using.
THANKS[/b]
http://www.hudsonmobile.com/
I've bought this software, but I'm a little unsure whether it works ok or not.
The today plug shows, amongst other things, minutes used that day. I noticed that after I received a call lasting around 5 - 6 mins, my daily total had increased by that figure. Surely if it was an incoming call then it should not have counted those 5 - 6. If I had initiated the call myself then I would understand.
Any thoughts / contradictions?
Cheers
Anthony
Thanks for the link!
Try this one
This is my own today plugin (DKToday).
I wrote it because I havent found software with all function I need.
It show you:
- operator name
- signal strength
- today call time ( outgoing only )
- monthly call time
- missing call list
Finally you can call back directly from this today
This software is absolutely free of charge.
Regards and have a fun
Darek
In the US on TMo you can type in '#646#' and press TALK, you will get a notification that pops up on your screen in about 2 seconds that tells you how many minutes you have used. I was just in Singapore on singtel and it worked there, give it a try and see if it works for you.
Here is a link to the DKToday Plugin. A very nice piece of work for those looking for this type of tool.
http://www.pdaclub.pl/getit.php?id=712
Anton.Valleyman said:
I've bought this software, but I'm a little unsure whether it works ok or not.
The today plug shows, amongst other things, minutes used that day. I noticed that after I received a call lasting around 5 - 6 mins, my daily total had increased by that figure. Surely if it was an incoming call then it should not have counted those 5 - 6. If I had initiated the call myself then I would understand.
Any thoughts / contradictions?
Cheers
Anthony
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Check the config options - two things are confusing - 1. by default it includes incoming calls which is weird and 2 - it 'rounds' up minutes by default too (so 30secs appears as a full minute). Other than that it's great
I have tried the dashboard before and it's just screwed up.
(funnysnake today phone) worked for me nicely. though i would love to try the one created by TD
Have used dkot's tool and it is pretty handy, thanks.
There are some nice programs to track cell phone usage... however it is surprising that they all completely ignore another important part of cellular usage that affects the bill... SMS...
I havent seen any program that also counts how many SMSs you have sent/received. This is also a major factor because sending/receiving SMSs are not free.
Is there any program that does this as well? or maybe the existing programs ought to include this functionality in them.
I don't know of any software that does this but one way around it would be to save sent messages in your sent folder. All sms folders show the no of messages in there.
You can then empty this each month...
Probably not what you are looking for but it might do till someone writes some software for it.
Hi,
I also installed dkot´s today plugin. Works very nice. Thanks for the work !
Only one minor problem: My month starts on every 22nd (elements -> options). But it seems that the "monthly minute counter" resets to the 1st after each softreset. The 22nd is still shown in the options but on the today screen I see all minutes for the month.
I then go to the options and type in 22 again. After returning to the today screen I get the correct minutes.
Marcus
Phone Dashboard Minute Tracker
I am using "Phone Dashboard Minute Tracker" (find it on Pocketgear)
It is complete, no problems.
@Tekflow,
Phone Dashboard Minute Tracker seems to be a nice program, but it´s commercial ($14,99).
I like the little Freeware App
Marcus
Re: Try this one
dkot said:
This is my own today plugin (DKToday).
I wrote it because I havent found software with all function I need.
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hi dkot,
thanx for the plugin. nice work, however i found following:
When i click operator name, it will power off my XDA2.
Phone icon is too big.
When i set count 30 seconds, today screen is refreshed in 30 seconds interval. so if i run another program and then close it, i see garbage onscreen till next interval.
thanx
buzz
Re: Try this one
dkot said:
This is my own today plugin (DKToday).
I wrote it because I havent found software with all function I need.
It show you:
- operator name
- signal strength
- today call time ( outgoing only )
- monthly call time
- missing call list
Finally you can call back directly from this today
This software is absolutely free of charge.
Regards and have a fun
Darek
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Excellent !
A very nice, useful piece of software that actually works and does what it says in the tin.
As others have said the only other 'feature' would be an options tab that allows users to set the date their month starts, and maybe reset the call timers.
But as it is, it's fine, and it's one of my must have today plugins !!
Cheers
Mark
Marcus: I've already found and corrected problem you wrote about. Now monthly counter works correctly.
Buzz_lightyear:
It was my intention to turn off screen (it is not power off feature) by pressing operator name. I use it to turn off screen when I listen music. I forgot to say about it.
Screen is refreshed every 5 seconds. I know that the best way would be to refresh call counters after every call, but RIL doesn't send any message when call has been finished ( I tried it )
Icon size - I know that, but I'm not an artist and I couldn't find any other icon. If you have better (smaller) icon set, please send them to me and I will change them.
I'm really happy that all of you want to have dktoday on yours mdas. I will try to correct all errors you found and I hope I will show you next version before end of this year.
Thanx
Darek
dkot said:
Marcus: I've already found and corrected problem you wrote about. Now monthly counter works correctly.
Buzz_lightyear:
It was my intention to turn off screen (it is not power off feature) by pressing operator name. I use it to turn off screen when I listen music. I forgot to say about it.
Screen is refreshed every 5 seconds. I know that the best way would be to refresh call counters after every call, but RIL doesn't send any message when call has been finished ( I tried it )
Icon size - I know that, but I'm not an artist and I couldn't find any other icon. If you have better (smaller) icon set, please send them to me and I will change them.
I'm really happy that all of you want to have dktoday on yours mdas. I will try to correct all errors you found and I hope I will show you next version before end of this year.
Thanx
Darek
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hey Darek,
i like it very much... I wanted to ask, if it's a bug or feature, but it looked to me as a feature as well... that screen off...
Is it open source? I mean could you provide me with the source? I would like to change some stuff. Mainly face lifting...
buzz
Frankly say, I'm not ready for sharing source code with someone else yet. I have to make a lot of change in this software before. It is still in experimental state. Maybe in near future.
Here is my Christmas gift for all of you (see attachment). This is new dll with my today. To install it uncheck my today and simple copy it to windows folder. That is version 1.6. I corrected Marcus's problem, changed options dialog view and moved 'ok' button.
I cannot prepare full cab file because I do it from my pda.
Merry Christmas for all of you from Poland.
Darek
I cannot add attachment using pda!!! How can I do it?
Darek
After spending the summer learning c# and .netcf I got my hands on a Diamond and had to make some small apps.
They're very beta and pre-release versions, but please try 'em out and give me some feedback
VibraNotify
Senses when the phone lays idle and when it is on the move, if it has been stationary for some time and it gets picked up it vibrates if there's been any unattended activity (sms, appointments, missed calls).
Should probably add some gui components for sensitivity tweaking.
CallBlocker
Rejects all callers enlisted in the supplied text-file. Currently the text-file contains "all" telemarketing numbers in norway (from telefonterror.no).
Speedometer
Really simple GPS-utility showing the current speed in different units.
Nice work!
Downloading them now.. and gonna try 'em right away...
I was thingking about another thing that the VibraNotify could do (or as a different program)
Like a theft alarm.. If the phone has been idle for some time.. and it gets piked up.. you have to enter a code.. if you dont, a high alarm sound will start
(I'm not gonna take the cred for this, someone else spoke of it in this forum some time ago)
Thanks. I'm going to try it!
Nice! I`ll have a look. Would be nice if you could set some settings, like idle time on the Vibra thingy!
Nice ... thank you.
audiophil said:
VibraNotify
Senses when the phone lays idle and when it is on the move, if it has been stationary for some time and it gets picked up it vibrates if there's been any unattended activity (sms, appointments, missed calls).
Should probably add some gui components for sensitivity tweaking.
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How long is some time?
Surur
ok.. I tested VibraNotify...
I'm gonna use it for sure
But I noticed that if i get a sms and move it, it vibrates...
but if I don't check the sms... and move it again later, it doesn't vibrate
I think it should vibrate until I have checked the sms?
It's little bit annoying to see these programs working in task manager... is it possible to hide them? I mean they will be working in background... Especially vibranotify...
plus is it possible to add numbers to list for callblocker? I could not do that... well it saves as .txt file when i try to modify and save the list...
Theft alarm could definitively work, how about a mp3 shouting "Put the mobile down with two fingers only!"? Hehe
Regarding the idle time, I think I used 10 seconds, if you don't hide the windows you can se it changing states. The number outputted is the square of the sum of the changes in the accelerometer values.
I will add some gui components and registry settings for this when I got time, would be more dynamic that hardcoded constants.
I'm not sure if I understood what you meant NisseDILLIGAF, doesn't it vibrate if you got unread sms'es when you pick the phone up from i.e. the table?
emre_aachen:
Just add the numbers to the textfile, seperate by a newline, save and reload the application. It caches the numbers, maybe a wrong design decision? Comments?
audiophil said:
Theft alarm could definitively work, how about a mp3 shouting "Put the mobile down with two fingers only!"? Hehe
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Nice!
audiophil said:
I'm not sure if I understood what you meant NisseDILLIGAF, doesn't it vibrate if you got unread sms'es when you pick the phone up from i.e. the table?
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No... What I mean is if I get a sms and I accidentally move the phone, It vibrates...
I haven't checked the sms (I don't know that I have a message)
When I pick the phone up ... there is no vibration... It only vibrates once..
It would be great if It would vibrate every time I move it untill I have read the sms...
Like the flashing center button... It continues to flash until I have cheked the sms or a missed call or whatever...
again.. Thanx for a great app .. It's gonna be a standard app for my phone
Ah, then I follow you. This could certainly be done! Maybe an option in the gui to enable/disable...
I certainly need to reinstall VS to continue developing
I'm keeping this topic in view, sounds like a nice app. But as read from the comments, it still needs a little bit of work (setting etc).
Nice work!
audiophil said:
After spending the summer learning c# and .netcf I got my hands on a Diamond and had to make some small apps.
They're very beta and pre-release versions, but please try 'em out and give me some feedback
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As you seams to know what you are doing I'll give you my two cents for a simple apps:
You know that when the Diamond is in standby with black screen you can't see if you have signal or not.
It's possible to have the DPAD flash when the phone in standby mode have no signal ?
Maybe it can stop flashing when the signal came back.
Let mi say after 15 sec. with no signal it start blink with 5 sec delaied flash and after a customizable time the blink
become more quick to allert that you are not reachable for a long period...
It will be wery usefull to know that without touching it.
Let me know and thank you for your great work!
titipsx said:
As you seams to know what you are doing I'll give you my two cents for a simple apps:
You know that when the Diamond is in standby with black screen you can't see if you have signal or not.
It's possible to have the DPAD flash when the phone in standby mode have no signal?
It will be wery usefull to know that without touching it.
Let me know and thank you for your great work!
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I'm afraid this is not possible, when the diamond is in standby (black screen) it's pretty much like if your computer is in standby mode, all running programs are paused. Checked into this when doing the vibranotifyer, since running it in standby was my original plan.
I certainly hope I'm wrong, maybe someone can correct me?
Hey,
just thought I'd write a quick note to thank you for your programs. Small and simple, its a dream.
Keep them small and simple.
What I'm really looking for is an application to replace my Garmin305 EDGE, and I hope that you continue to develop your GPS stuff to include some of the training and tracking features that the Garmin had.
I found this program:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340667
Its called TrackMe, but its clearly not developed for the Diamond, as running it clips my battery time down to 1.5 hours.
What would be nice is to run each feature as an individual streamlined application, like your speedometer.
Anyways, thanks again.
And keep up the good work.
the callblocker doesn't work with the 1.93rom
smax76 said:
the callblocker doesn't work with the 1.93rom
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More reports on this?
I got 1.93 myself, and I just tested it with success.
audiophil said:
I'm afraid this is not possible, when the diamond is in standby (black screen) it's pretty much like if your computer is in standby mode, all running programs are paused. Checked into this when doing the vibranotifyer, since running it in standby was my original plan.
I certainly hope I'm wrong, maybe someone can correct me?
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Too bad, but maybe I was not clear in my request.
I mean that the phone is only with the screeo switched off, but it is still active.
For example when it is in this state the phone can ring on a call or on sms...
If I understand well you mean that an apps like S2U2 can't do anything if the screen is offf while you press the power button ?
Thank you for further explanations, I'm really curious on that...
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Too bad, but maybe I was not clear in my request.
I mean that the phone is only with the screeo switched off, but it is still active.
For example when it is in this state the phone can ring on a call or on sms...
If I understand well you mean that an apps like S2U2 can't do anything if the screen is offf while you press the power button ?
Thank you for further explanations, I'm really curious on that...
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AFAIK the calling, sms'ing etc is handled on a lower layer than what is allowed for the programs, suppose the hardware raises events or something when this happens which wakes up the OS.
Can't seem to see that S2U2 does anything while the mobile is in standby mode?
I just noticed something... maybe I'm wrong..!?
But It feels like the battery is draining faster with the VibraNotify!?
Anyone else that noticed something like this?
Gonna test some more... I'll know more tomorrow...
right had this phone a few weeks now got most of the little niggles sorted with this forums help just a few others that bug me ....
1: there is a separate system and ringer volume ...but if you set one it changes the other!! they are not independent. this is a major bug for me because if i have my phone on vibrate while im at work, if i then want to listen to music at work i plug in my headphones and have to turn up the volume to listen to the music. but if i then take out my headphones the phone is now on loud. and if i forget and leave it on i get told off at work ! lol
2: the age old text reply problem. 200+ messages (and no i dont want to delete them) means a big wait to reply to a message ....stupid !
3: the lock screen slider is very odd, sometimes it will unlock with one slide and other times it will take a few goes...and if your showing off your new phone to someone it just looks crap because you cant even unlock it ! can the area of touch sensitivity around the lock button be increased in size to make it easier to unlock ???
anyway cheers Dom
1. The volumes can be set seperatley if you choose to, by default they are linked. To set them seperately you simply go to settings sounds and display, and set single volume to off!
2. You can use Microsoft MyPhone to archive your text messages, ie not deleted but not on your phone. I did this with 2000 messages that I dont really need to be stored on the phone.
3. No lock issues here, to increase the area would sort of defeat the whole point of the lock button
2: the age old text reply problem. 200+ messages (and no i dont want to delete them) means a big wait to reply to a message ....stupid !
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Just disable HTC Messaging and the problem is gone.
I wonder why people are still complaining about this, the fix is as easy as it gets. Really nothing worth talking about.
1: wow how did i not see that ?!?! i've looked in the menu about a million times ! haha cheers
2: yeah i have used that too but some messages i like to have with me so i can read them back......sentimental old sod i am...
3: i guess if no one else is having trouble it must just be me ! lol
You can disable the lock screen, if you want, with the following Registry setting:
[HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd] "DeviceLockWhenSuspend"=dword:0
right tried that and you still cant have the ringer on vibrate and the system on loud .... if you click vibrate on either it sets the other !!!!!!!!!
if you click vibrate on either it sets the other !!!!!!!!!
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This is normal for Windows Mobile and has nothing to do with HTC.
I don't know if there's a workaround.
well i dont care if its htc or win mobile .... its annoying ! lol
If you use something more powerful like G-Profile you can set up profiles with, for example, your txt/calls set to vibrate only. (Dont change the ringer volume to vibrate, instead change the incoming call notification to vibrate only. You can of course do this in Settings, but its easier with profiles)
It seems G-Profile is no longer free, but I am sure there are free alternatives if you search around.
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well i dont care if its htc or win mobile .... its annoying ! lol
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Not that I want to be rude, but other phones cannot even set different volumes for system/ringer. E.g. on the iPhone, you only get ONE volume and you can't do anything about it.
Actually, it's already a huge advantage of Windows Mobile that is has that feature.
And it's a huge advantage that there are programs like G-Profile that give you even more options.
maati said:
Not that I want to be rude, but other phones cannot even set different volumes for system/ringer. E.g. on the iPhone, you only get ONE volume and you can't do anything about it.
Actually, it's already a huge advantage of Windows Mobile that is has that feature.
And it's a huge advantage that there are programs like G-Profile that give you even more options.
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yeah i know but this is the first non-nokia phone i've had in about 5 years so its all a learning curve for me ! on the nokias you had profiles too so i guess i'll try this g-profile thingy ! thanks again ....
maati said:
Just disable HTC Messaging and the problem is gone.
I wonder why people are still complaining about this, the fix is as easy as it gets. Really nothing worth talking about.
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not sure if I'm correct here but I thought the messaging fix stopped mms working,
if wrong.sorry but I need to use both sms and mms
Hi guys, first post from me so excuse if theres some infos missing what you need, but I'll add as something is asked.
I'm a long user of Nokia phones and just changed my E90 into a Diamond. And the one thing that I really miss is that theres not exactly different profiles to choose from (or made your own). Theres only selections for silent and vibrate, other than the normal selections. And I really miss that from Nokia phones. Just a few simple clicks and phone has a loud theme with a different ringtone and SMS message sound, or then its almost quiet (like when my baby is sleeping).. I think you all get the picture, if you ever had Nokia phones =)
So my reguest is for someone to point out a program or if someone wants to make I would be glad, really glad I think some others would like these too
I could make another post but I'll just add few other programs also to here that maybe someone knows if there exists similar for Diamond
- BestProfiles (enable selected profiles to turn on at some time of day)
- FlipSilent (turn ur phone face-down and its on silent, works for alarming to go snooze)
- Putty (great for symbian phones but I found only programs that arent so good as this is)
Anyways thnx in advantage if someone can help a dude out...
PS. only had HTC for a few days but after starting using it I had to order a data-plan to my mobile and a better battery, but this was off-topic..
Try ageye's G-Profile (http://www.ageye.de/index.php?s=gprofile/about), you get a fully 14-days working demo and full app is just 5€! One of the most happily money spent ever for my Diamond, now I even have it start playing music when I plugin earphones/carkit and stop when disconnecting!
teorouge said:
Try ageye's G-Profile , you get a fully 14-days working demo and full app is just 5€! One of the most happily money spent ever for my Diamond, now I even have it start playing music when I plugin earphones/carkit and stop when disconnecting!
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I just installed it and it seems a fair try, tho it has a lot more possibilitys that i would actually need from a app might even help that dude out to translate it to my native language, like i just did to PocketShield, not finished yet but almost =)
Below again some off-topic, maybe some admin explains to me how to get rid of it =)
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1. To prevent spam to the forums, new users are not permitted to post outside links in their messages. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed.
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Got that error from replying to your message and wondered first that wtf, i didnt put any links in my reply, and after that noticed that link from u to G-Profile