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Slingbox with the Universal, any comments?

Has anyone have tried slingbox with their Universal? If yes, any comments before I decide and get one for myself? Thanks in advance.

I have used Slingbox with MDA Pro
I recently purchased a Slingbox for use with my Universal in UK. It is very good. The picture on the universal is good too. The setting up is straight forward.
I was able to use it on my visit to New York last week.
If you need more info, let me know.

Does Slingbox broadcast constantly or only on demand? I don't want to use all my broadband allowance not watching Judge Judy!

only broadcasts when you connect to it. otherwise it sits there happily.
i got one the week they came out and love it. only problem in the UK is the upload speed of ADSL is pretty crappy. on 256k up it looks ok but i would recommend higher if you can get it. on a lan it looks fine.
highly recommended

Does it match the upload speed (as best it can) to the client's download speed? eg When I'm on 3g with not a great signal, will it only encode and upload at that speed, but when I'm on wifi it goes flat out?

yup.
although i think that on the Mobile client there is a limit to the speed.
you can also tweak it. i think the highest you can get it to stream on a PDA is about 600kbps, even though you might be able to select higher.
also on a lan the highest you can stream is at 2mb, even though you can select 3mb...don't ask why (cos i don't know )

where to get windows mobile Slingplayer for UK/PAL?
I have just bought a slingbox. One user of an MDA PRO says he's using with Universal which I have, but the player for windows mobile seems to ony be for the US/NTSC slingbox. Is the software compatible or is there a UK/PAL version?

HTC TyTN

I am considering buying this device in USA and go with the 3G network offered by Cingular. Anyone her ein the US thta has experimented this phone already and verified that the 3G is working and that the video calls are working too? Please let me know... Thank you, Paul.

Hi. You really should search before asking questions (this one has been answered many times)...
Yes, there's 3G available in many metropolitan areas with Cingular, and it works great (depends where you live though).
No, you can't use VideoCalling (Cingular doesn't support it).

G3 and video calls...
Sorry! However I researched using "3G and video calls usa" in several combinations but did not get any info. HOwever, I just got the Loox t830 and I am sending it back because the UMST doesnt work here in usa. but at this point I understand that any phone would not work. And anyway the customer services of Cingular told me that it would, but of course I don't believe them.... Thank you for your answer!!

830 is UMTS 2100 only .. so it's 3G wont work in the US .. Same prob with SE P990i ..
For the US, you need UMTS 850/1900 atleast ..

3G works fine on it, but you'll run into the problem that the connection speed is almost TOO fast for the browser. The high speed is really only good for stuff like Skype or other VOIP app's. Downloads are of course fast, but your day to day browsing doesn't speed up much, no matter which browser you try.

ScottC said:
3G works fine on it, but you'll run into the problem that the connection speed is almost TOO fast for the browser. The high speed is really only good for stuff like Skype or other VOIP app's. Downloads are of course fast, but your day to day browsing doesn't speed up much, no matter which browser you try.
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did you try video calls?

iloveheat said:
did you try video calls?
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Cingular does not support video calls at this moment

ScottC said:
3G works fine on it, but you'll run into the problem that the connection speed is almost TOO fast for the browser. The high speed is really only good for stuff like Skype or other VOIP app's. Downloads are of course fast, but your day to day browsing doesn't speed up much, no matter which browser you try.
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This is very interesting. I have a question for you and all the other friends: did you try to check the speed of the connection via a computer? I mean, you can go in internet via the phone, from a laptop via the phone, or you can stick the sim card in a PC Card (I have a Sony Ericsson GC83) and go in internet. If you did so, what speed did you have, or could you get? Thank you, Paul.

Choppy & broken video

Hello all I'm with T-Mobile after getting upset w/AT&T. No matter what
player I use the video is more trouble than it's worth. I have an
unlocked 8525 which is a 3G phone, all T-Mobile has is GPRS or Edge
Networks. I've spoken to my provider & to HTC. They say without the 3G
network I cannot *have video. I know that's not true, I used to be
able to watch news feeds or whatever with a Razor. With a 500.00 PPC Icannot??? If some oneone could explain away around this problem it
would be much appreciated!
I'm running Shcap's 4.00 ROM
Radio 1.54.07.00
I know to use the search here & Wiki & any MOD here can look & see I've searched until I'm blind & confused. I guess I've read too much. I've tried 4 or 5 different radios, I'm all out of ideas. As I said any help would be much appreciated!

it all comes down to the resolution of the video
if it's 640_480 then your screen will only show ½ the pixels anyway
but it will still transfer 2times the data down
personaly i would not bother with video on grps it's
too slow even for me to surf without loosing my patience

So I guess the only fix is to drop T-Mobile & goto a 3g carrier? My contract will not be up until June & by then there should be all kinds of new PDA's out there. I guess it would be just as well for me to use a GO Phone & pay the 150.00 X-L fee & call it a day!

in TCPMP goto Options, Video, and select Raw FrameBuffer.
DirectDraw is not compatible with WM6 from what I hear.
This fixed choppy video problems I had with Youtube videos and TCPMP.

ludester said:
in TCPMP goto Options, Video, and select Raw FrameBuffer.
DirectDraw is not compatible with WM6 from what I hear.
This fixed choppy video problems I had with Youtube videos and TCPMP.
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8525 (Hermes) has been notorious for crap video playback, depending on which ROM you use. The ROM the TC is using should be loaded withe the decent drivers. Best thing i use is Coreplayer and it works fine with Hardware acceleration.
Directdraw DOES work with WM6, select YV12 overlay and it should be fine.
GPRS is pretty poor bandwidth and bearing in mind it is rate adaptive so is unlikely you get anywhere close to the theoretical 80/60 kbps maximum. In a sence TMobile was correct in that 3G really is a good idea when planning on using streaming media. Depends on loads of things like the resolution, framerate, bitrate, bandwidth, codec etc...

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for there input.Being new to all this, I need all the helI can get. I plan to flash Schap's new 4.30 full to my phone this week, I hear that TCPMP is more less the same as Coreplayer. Is this true or not? I do have one question. Which radio using T-Mobile has worked the best for everyone in the MO & AR area of the USA? I think this may have something to do with it. Thanks for the input!

Jerky Youtube playback - only when on wifi!?!?

Hi all,
Wonder if anyone has experienced this. My Touch HD (stock Orange ROM) is really jerky when playing Youtube videos through the client over Wifi, but fine over a 3g connection..
The Wifi connection is plenty fast enough, the Mrs has an iPhone, which works fine.
Anyone got any idea what I can check? I've made sure everything is turned off.. bluetooth etc..
stuck!
thanks
Mark

Hi, easy one this :0) Go to the settings tab select communications, in the bottom right tap settings, then tap wireless lan. Once there select the power mode tab then move slide all the way to the left for best performance. Always works for me, hope it does for you :0)

Sadly not mate, already tried that!
OK so this is REALLY weird. If I have nothing else downloading at home, and the youtube player is downloading it's jerky.
If I start a download going on my laptop (usenet - canes my connection) then what HAS buffered on my Touch HD plays fine. The moment I stop the download, it starts to be jerky again.
Almost seems like the throughput to the phone is killing it somehow, weird! have tried all sorts of settings on my router, but no dice.
Really stuck as to what to try next :/

Must admit until buffering is complete, I too get slightly jerky playback. Although this has always been the case with every Windows Mobile device I've had. Sorry I can't help you anymore m8
:0( Good luck with it.

Background downloading slows the device down, so it cant play the video smoothly. Go to youtube app settings and turn video playback quality to fast download. That helps, but the quality is awful.
I use the high quality, and just wait the video to finish downloading.

It's not just the fact that it's downloading in the background because it's doing that over 3g but plays fine, it's something specific to Wifi.
It's also not just slightly jerky, it's REALLY bad.
I mean.. I've watched plenty of reviews of this device where they've streamed youtube over wifiand it.screen fine..
I wonder if upgrading the radio would help? or is the wifi stuff done by the rom?

Worth a try, my HD works much better with new radio 1.10.25.25 + Custom rom Black Pearl 1.7 lite.

will have to give that a try then. The stock Orange rom is good apart from that but a bit slow.
Just finding picking one to flash to a touch daunting, too much choice!

OK, so I downloaded and flashed to panosha Black Pearl v2.1 HD ROM.
Works fine, is VERY nice and fast Also updated my radio version to 1.12.25.16 but the Youtube thing is still there!!!
I'm going to try it on someone else's wifi connection as soon as I can, but for now, anyone got a clue?!?

OK, I've tried three different roms, and even tried two other wifi networks- same problem.
The device is generally slower when connected to a wifi network, not just youtube. I guess it's just more noticeable when playing YT videos.
Really lost now ;(

Could be that once you are connected on WIFI the youtube player automatically selects the best quality video for you to view, increasing system requirements.
At the same time as trying to view the higher quality video the WIFI also uses a fair bit of CPU power. Try downloading a file on WIFI with everything else closed and you'll notice your device is a lot less responsive until the download is completed.
Only a guess though.

Well of course, but you'd expect a device of this spec to be able to play it without stuttering all over the shop whilst nothing else is loaded...

Hi there = I've got the same bleedin problem!
I am on orange payg 3g, Dutty 2.1 extreme rom.
I never had the problem with the original (orange) total pants rom, but I've also updated the radio to 1.12 so perhaps it's an issue with the radio. Have you tried 1.13 the latest?
It's nowt to do with the youtube settings for sure, it's most definitely wi-fi related. I've noted the i-player mobile app is wildly out of sync on the audio too and never used to be that bad.
If anyone has any ideas or tweaks please let us know. thanks!

Maybe its because when you connect to wifi network it says that rx speed is 1mbps (it should be faster) and the real download speed is around 30 kb per second and i think that that is not enough for playing realtime high quality videos (needs buffering more often). When you set option to best performance that will just increase your transmit power and you will get better reception (but the speed still remains). Maybe that is the problem. Any solution on how to increase the RX speed?

Hi there, i am from singapore. I am also experiencing the same problem with the youtube client from the stock rom. i got mine from starhub! the video is jerky! need help!!

HD2 HSDPA/WiFi speedtest slow

My ADSL connection can do 13Mb download & 1Mb upload, all computers achieve (also on wireless) this using either speedtest.bbmax.co.uk or speedtest.net. However my HD2 can only achieve 3.5-4Mb max using the same sites, upload is represented correctly. It seems to fly up very quickly then back down, for upload it takes a few seconds to check the speed for both sites. I used Opera 10 (Flash Lite 3).
Also on HSDPA it can only do ~0.5Mb but when tested in dongle it achieves ~2.5Mb, upload is represented correctly (1Mb) for both Vodafone and O2.
I've also tried the wireless N hack but this hasn't improved things.

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My ADSL connection can do 13Mb download & 1Mb upload, all computers achieve (also on wireless) this using either speedtest.bbmax.co.uk or speedtest.net. However my HD2 can only achieve 3.5-4Mb max using the same sites, upload is represented correctly. It seems to fly up very quickly then back down, for upload it takes a few seconds to check the speed for both sites. I used Opera 10 (Flash Lite 3).
Also on HSDPA it can only do ~0.5Mb but when tested in dongle it achieves ~2.5Mb, upload is represented correctly (1Mb) for both Vodafone and O2.
I've also tried the wireless N hack but this hasn't improved things.
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There is no solution. HD2 performance on WI-FI are just bad. People don't care. The only justification they can give to this is "it's just a phone". Amen.

mjordan79 said:
There is no solution. HD2 performance on WI-FI are just bad. People don't care. The only justification they can give to this is "it's just a phone". Amen.
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That sucks, my mates Omnia is also pretty bad on WiFi so I assume this is a WinMo problem?
Also I meant just O2 for 0.5/2.5 HSDPA thing, just checked Vodafone and got 3.5Mb / 1Mb.
Also doesn't the "it's just a phone" thing kinda wear off when you cross the £500 mark?

otester said:
That sucks, my mates Omnia is also pretty bad on WiFi so I assume this is a WinMo problem?
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I don't know. Maybe it's WinMo but I don't have other Windows Phones to make comparisons.
Also doesn't the "it's just a phone" thing kinda wear off when you cross the £500 mark?
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I agree but these are the people that appear here when you criticize their toy.

Maybe enabling wifi-n will speed it up. I'd at least give that a try.
Also, I did a test, and I get exactly what I get on my laptop which is 5644kbps

I have been having issues with HSDPA on my HD2 for some time. I am with T-mobile UK... what I have found is that when I hard boot/reflash a new rom... HSDPA is full speed. However something triggers what I can only think is a GPRS only mode, at first I thought I had installed apps that affected networking but I don't believe that is the case now.
Yesterday for example I was in a shielded building and had no reception whatsoever... when I came out I could not connect to T-Mobile data so restarted my HD2 a few times then setup data again.... I am connected now but internet connectivity is really slow, I generally stream music but I can't do this and I may as well forget about YouTube.
I have spoken to T-Mobile about this in the past and they said there are no restrictions on my account. I also know (havng proved it before) that by going through the hassle of a hard reset/new rom flash HSDPA with work again.
I wonder if this is IP related but I am not sure how to check the configuration on Winmo. I also am unsure how/where to do a speedtest (Speedtest.net needs an updated version of flash).

Managed to get it sorted out.... sent the Tmobile settings from the Tmobile website to my phone. Then in my ROM (OMEGA) there is a enable 3G mode.... This seems a bit flaky to be honest... Anyway I selected the new Tmobile internet settings option in Connections, then flicked the 3G setting in connection manager on and off a few times...
In the status bar, rather than "G" and a small "G" with reception meter both show as "H" (this will differ to the rom you have probably).... main thing is streaming is back again

Hello Everybody.
I am new with HTC HD2 1week only. The phone working everything OK, but only the WiFi internet it very slow. I did not configuration any from WiFi yet, just Turn on a wifi and enter ke router home network. When I click open the Opera (V10) display fast but search for another web look like Google.com then it will displaying 1min is it very slow. On my Wife Iphone is it very fast same network router at home.
If someone's to know same as my problem, and how to fixed it please help me. Thank you so much. Have a good day.
Danny

boysanjose said:
Hello Everybody.
I am new with HTC HD2 1week only. The phone working everything OK, but only the WiFi internet it very slow. I did not configuration any from WiFi yet, just Turn on a wifi and enter ke router home network. When I click open the Opera (V10) display fast but search for another web look like Google.com then it will displaying 1min is it very slow. On my Wife Iphone is it very fast same network router at home.
If someone's to know same as my problem, and how to fixed it please help me. Thank you so much. Have a good day.
Danny
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I've generally found 3G to be faster than WiFi and even the ping in some situations on WM phones.

my phone also gets around 2 to 3Mbps on the speed test with the wifi.. 700 or so with hspda and 500 or so with 3g.
isnt this the max rate of the memory card? perhaps the phone itself is slowing down the results?

aarons6 said:
my phone also gets around 2 to 3Mbps on the speed test with the wifi.. 700 or so with hspda and 500 or so with 3g.
isnt this the max rate of the memory card? perhaps the phone itself is slowing down the results?
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3G speed depends heavily on the mast tech level and how many people are using it.