I would like some clarification - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi everyone,
My girlfriend just bought me a Cingular 8525 last month and it came with the stock ROM which is 1.34.502.1, I would like to upgrade it to a newer version or even WM6. I have been reading the Wiki and searching the forum for the last two weeks and now I think i'm ready for the flashing, but would like some clarification from you guys before I go flash my phone. From what I understand, these are some steps I need to do:
1) HardSPL has more advantages over SuperCID, so I'll go with HardSPL by doing this guide
2) Since I have Radio version 1.16.00.00, I want to upgrade it to this 1.38.00.10 version. I don't know how to check my HTC_BOOT, I tried to do this, but it gives me the massage : Command Error. However, from reading the Wiki I believe my HTC_BOOT is 107. Here pof said "This radio has HTC_BOOT 0108", does this mean after I upgrade my HTC_BOOT will be 108
3) then just download any ROM or WM6 ROM and upgrade it using ActiveSync
please help me out and thank you very much for reading.
By the way, after I upgrade does the Extended ROM stay the same as the stock version.
Thank you

well this is what i did, i just got my 8525 today...superCID and HardSPL, i did both of them, dont know why, dont know if i had to, but i just did it...then i installed WM6(XDA-Live) and then i wanted to update to the new radio ROM, so i did the hardspl 1.10oli, and then ran the update for the new radio...i dont know if i took the long way and did extra steps, but what ever i did, it worked...

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ROM updates / whats new in them?

Hello i just upgraded my QTEK from ROM Version 3.14.06 ENG to ROM Version 3.16.13 ENG and from Radio Version T313 to Radio Version 3.19.01. Everything worked fine and the ROM and the RSU were upgraded with success but idnt find any deffrence the device is still the same as for the GPRS i was hopping that when the device goes to standby it wont disconnect. Any idea what are the changes in the new ROM i have installed and the bugs that were fixed. If there is new ROM updates then the one i got from qtek.dk where are theyand will they work on my QTEK 1010 32MB.
Thanks
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3.16.13 is CRAP
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use 3.15.15 + 4.16
Where can i get them from?
Thanks for your reply, but where can i find those updates and will they work after the current upgrade that i made. Finally will they work on the Qtek 1010.
Thanks
as I said... 3.16.43 is unofficial and I can't share it... 3.15.15 is out there somewhere (use the Search function )
Couldnt find it!
Hi again i can find the new ROM versions that you instructed me to use instead of the ones i download it. Can you provide me with a direct URL to download the 3.15.15 + 4.16 ROM and will they replace the 3.16.13 Version.
Please advise
Thanks
Amer
Re: Couldnt find it!
ARZLEB said:
Hi again i can find the new ROM versions that you instructed me to use instead of the ones i download it. Can you provide me with a direct URL to download the 3.15.15 + 4.16 ROM and will they replace the 3.16.13 Version.
Please advise
Thanks
Amer
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Interesting. Can you tell me which site you been to that you manage
to upgrade your qtek before?
Sure ,
a while ago you could have found it on www.qtek.dk but for an unkown reason they have removed its link from the main page now you can find here:
http://qtek.dk/software/
Enjoy
:wink:
be careful how you give information
Hi,
Please be very careful how you give out information.
You have screwed up I believe many people who got
their device frozen and cannot be used after trying to
upgrade the ROM and Radio Stack from the website
you provide without warning people of the serious
damage it could cause if the Rom & Radio Stack
upgrade is not from the same source.
It is good that you are trying to help people but I hope
you could continue doing it BUT please give a complete
and proper advise. Hope you get my message.
From
One of the victim
I expect people who buy this device to have a certain amount of IQ. Everybody knows flashing them IS dangerous, so they should know as much as possible on the item.
Before I flashed the device for the first time, I've already read EVERYTHING which is in the ROM Upgrade forum and everything which mentions ROM on this site. I knew which is the best, I knew where to get it, I knew I can screw it up and I knew how to NOT screw it.
It's peoples fault if they brick their units.
i dont know where to start with this but i should agree with Zviratko 100%
we expect people who buy this devices to have a certain amount of IQ and knowledge most of us here are pros.
Please understand that if you dont know what you are dealing with dont bother doing it. Read all the forums and pages of Xda-developers they contain the biggest archives about those products, learn then apply.
Zviratko is one of these important resources learn from him i know i did!
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Re qtek 1010 rom update
could you please tell me where you got your rom update from. I have been tearing my hair off trying to get the right update. Some genius upgraded using the O2 upgrade and killed his QTEK.

Wizard/MDA Upgrade Procedure...

Some info about my phone
IPL 1.08
SPL 1.08
GSM 01.09.10
OS 1.8.10.2
I would like to upgrade to the latest i-mate rom ( i think ) i don't know any differences with any other roms etc... ive been looking on the other threads maybe if my question has been answered with someone else... i can get pointed to a proper thread, i just want to know what steps i should take to upgrade my rom, i dont wanna lose any data, not that i have much id like to backup my contacts basically thats the most important, also.. since i dont have money for a 128 card right now would it be possible to load someone elses backed up tmobile mda rom ? if they zipped it up and sent it so i can restore it when i get a msd card.. any help is greatly appreciated , thanks in advance.
Copy your contacts by ActiveSyncing them to a PC, or copy your pim.vol (in the root of your Device) to your SD card and upgrade it.
Good luck.
Ahhh
Ah okay now... which rom should I try out first ? and... don't i need to CID unlock it? i'm trying to find a good thread on the upgrade procedures and the best rom to try first.
Best rom...best rom..... the Rom you choose is a personal choice (and yes, you need to CID unlock first IF you want to upgrade to a Rom of another manufacturer, if you have lets say T-Mobile and you want to upgrade to another T-Mobile Rom, you don't have to CID unlock your Wizard).
I like the Qtek Roms myself, but then again, I only use Dutch Roms, not WWE (WorldWideEnglish) Roms, so I have to make a choice between T-Mobile or Qtek and then the choice is simple in my opinion
If you don't know anything about upgrading, my opinion is, try soms official Roms first, then you know what the deal is and then you can make a choice if you maybe want to use a customized Rom like the Mr. Clean Roms for example.
Regards,
Molski
p.s. There are A LOT of threads about upgrading.
Ah thanks for the info... i tried a beta 2.24 rom i think... its pretty nice, i personally cant tell much of a difference,, connmgr is different has more options etc... im thinking of trying mr clean 2.3 is the latest right ? and if i get this does it include all the office apps and such ?
a second question... i dont like the wifi apps included and i noticed an AXIM dell PPC with WM5 had a nice wifi config app/wifi AP finder, and noticed it was made by Hi Tech Computer (HTC) any way to copy this or use it on my phone ?
check my other thread about my CID unlock problem and let me know if i should try to CID unlock it again... and backup... thanks!!

Cingular 8125 I.Pl 2.25 unlocking help

Hello guys, can this Pocket PC from cingular be unlocked? I just got it.
I am not sure if i have all the tools and know how to unlock this fone so i will continue to read & wait for help. Thanks
Dishxpert
search this board for lokwiz and take it from there, the search function works, please use it.
I'm in the same boat as him. I've been thinking of CID unlocking my phone for awhile. I have the 2.25 spl/ipl as well with a 2.25.11 rom. And as far as i can tell from reading threads, lokiwiz does not cid unlock this rom.
edit: I have tried looking alot for a way to CID unlock my phone. I get alot of conflicting and confusing information. Some people say to just downgrade my rom to one wiht a 1.xx spl/ipl. Others tell me that that is impossible to do in the first place. I've tried looking and i cant find any rom that has a 1.xx spl/ipl that would even install on my CID locked wizard. If this is indeed the way i and the thread starter are supposed to do it, then can you point me in the direction of a downgraded rom that will work with a CID locked cingular phone? I would be very gratefull.
taking the time to read some threads you would find that downgrading to a 1.xx rom and then doing the cid unlock and sim unlock would fix your problem... some people that say this dont work may be referring to a G4 wizard, one who's IPL/SPL is 2.xx.0001. And they are right, this does not work on a G4, only the G3, which if you are lacking the .0001 at the end of your IPL/SPL then you have a G3... all of this info can be found from searching and reading
I did read from a few sites and am not new to forums. The instructions i saw said there is nothing out for I.P 2.21 and above unless u pay and use JAFWM.
Shogun, prob as a senior member u can shed some light as more ? will be asked in days to come or make a sticky with the truth.
BTW, i do have lokiwiz2o and have used it to unlock MDAIII but not sure what works on mine & dont want to cause it to crash. Speak if u have the 'right' truth.
shogunmark said:
taking the time to read some threads you would find that downgrading to a 1.xx rom and then doing the cid unlock and sim unlock would fix your problem... some people that say this dont work may be referring to a G4 wizard, one who's IPL/SPL is 2.xx.0001. And they are right, this does not work on a G4, only the G3, which if you are lacking the .0001 at the end of your IPL/SPL then you have a G3... all of this info can be found from searching and reading
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please re-read my above post, it gives you instructions.. what i forgot to mention though was after you donwgrade to do the unlock, you will need to upgrade to an official rom that will have the updated bootloaders(IPL/SPL) before you can flash someone's cooked rom (and i only say that cause not all of us chefs include the updated IPL/SPL's so that someone with a G4 doesnt brick their phone)
shogunmark said:
please re-read my above post, it gives you instructions.. what i forgot to mention though was after you donwgrade to do the unlock, you will need to upgrade to an official rom that will have the updated bootloaders(IPL/SPL) before you can flash someone's cooked rom (and i only say that cause not all of us chefs include the updated IPL/SPL's so that someone with a G4 doesnt brick their phone)
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I know i have a G3 device. Are you saying that all i have to do is downgrade to a 1.xx ipl/spl rom. Run lokiwiz 2b. And then i can go directly to a cooked rom because i do not have a g4 device? Speciffically i would like to troy out molskie's 30mb free rom. And possibly yours as well.
k2snowboards88 said:
I know i have a G3 device. Are you saying that all i have to do is downgrade to a 1.xx ipl/spl rom. Run lokiwiz 2b. And then i can go directly to a cooked rom because i do not have a g4 device? Speciffically i would like to troy out molskie's 30mb free rom. And possibly yours as well.
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well yes kinda, i added a part below that, it said you may want to flash an official rom since most cooked roms dont include the updated IPL/SPL..
Hi Guys...im no expert, and im kinda a noob at this. But this is what I did with my Cingular 8125. I have a G3 phone, SIM unlocked onle IPL/SPL 2.26. I've updated it with a Cingular standard ROM. I realized my phone was NOT CID unlocked, so I decided to try this step for step http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116&highlight=wizard+backup the important part i believe is downgrading the ROM, also, make sure you unzip the lokizwiz file in the ROOT of the C:\ drive, then open a command prompt and run it from there (assuming your running Windows). After that, I upgraded with a Tmobile Standard ROM to upgrade the IPL and SPL back to 2.26, then I installed this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276700&highlight=cingular+8125 and it worked like a charm. Thats just from my personal experience, as I said im just a noob and not an expert. I hope that helps in some way.
My hats off to these people that create these custom ROM, THESE GUYS ARE GOOD ! ! !
Thanks to all the custom ROM makers out there.

Backup of ROM?

Hello.
I want to change/upgrade my ROM to WM6. But I want to make a Backup of my existing from first (maybe I'm to stupid to do the Update) and to have the chance to get my MDA Vario back to life I want to make a backup of the ROM is installed at this time.
Could somebody maybe tell me how i can backup my ROM? And... How can I reinstall the ROM? I think it will be moved to the SD Card?
Thanks a lot.
You might want to try this then first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305294
Thanks for this.
May problem is that I have a "very" new ROM installed (T-Mobile MDA Vario 2.21.2.8 GER). and I'm unable to complete the the CID unlock process (the Netlock is removed allready with the lokiwiz 3a.).
If I'm entering the Bootloader and open mtty I'm .not able to open the USB port.
Does it mean I need to downgrade?
Thanks Maik
There is a newer public T-Mobile ROM on the T-Mobile website: Version 2.26.2
You need to downgrade your ROM to custom 1.05 (check the WIKI page) in order to run lokwiz CID unlocker!
I tried the version 3 of lokwiz but the only one which worked properly on my MDA was the version .2b
How ever,
the CID lock should not effect the MTTY utility. This is an official HTC procedure and should work on any WIZ.
UPDATE:
I just saw that you're talking about a german ROM? The latest public german ROM is 3.3.8 (check the german T-Mobile site for that!). If you want to keep the older 2.21 you can find it at the Austrian T-Mobile site again after downgrading and unlocking your CID
I am running the german rom AKU3.3 myself - it is much nicier than previous versions and has already some WM6 features integrated.
Ok. So I need to downgrade my Device. to do the CID unlock.
Maybe the system firewall and some other settings are affecting the MTTY issue.
I checked the T-Mobile website for the newer German ROM version.
If I check https://after-sales-service.t-mobile.de/eg_online/t-mobile/t_mda_vario.htm (what my Device is) I only see the 2.21 version and NO newer version?
1.
Go to www.t-mobile.de
2.
Click on top on the menu "HILFE & FAQ"
3.
Select on that site "Broschüren & Software"
4.
Now click on the left site menu on "T-Mobile Software"
5.
It takes you to a new page and asks you for your MDA. Don't worry if your PDA is not in the list! Just choose any PDA. It will take you to a new page and show you the selected PDA. Right underneath you will see a link: "Model aendern" - click on that link and then chose as Manufacturer T-Mobile and you will find the MDA VARIO!
Sorry for being so complicate but the T-Mobile site is set up with Flash, so, you can't just copy the link! You always have to go the loooong way! Be aware that you have to temporarely allow popup's ... !
How ever,
I will try to paste the link here to the direct download and I hope it works:
http://www.t-mobile.de/downloads/t-mobile/ruu_vario_aku3.3_3822_382120_026911_tmo_de_ger_ship.zip
Hey the link works....
Thanks. I find out that my Device is a G4 device and I also see that I can't unCID this device... Right?
I'm a little bit in fear that something is going wrong during the Update to WM6 and I have no working Backup on my SD card.
Ok. So this steps I will do. Maybe you can currect me if I'm wrong.
1. I will perform a downgrade to the custom rom 1.05 and then I make a backup after running CID unlock.
2. I make a Backup with the MTTY
3. I will install the WM6
4. If not working I can backup from SD card and maybe install the newest ROM
You only should downgrade for CID unlocking your device! This is required for installing other ROMs than from your cell phone provider!
If you want to upgrade to the new german AKU3.3 from T-Mobile - that should work without CID unlock! You also should be able to downgrade to your existing ROM version in case you just dislike the new AKU3.3
BTW:
If you're planning to upgrade to a selfmade WM6 which you can find all over the web: I tried almost all of them! None was as stabile and good as the german T-Mobile AKU3.3! Sure, they look cute with their VISTA-style look but the functionality is far away from being perfect! Also: Lots of the ROMs are very user-personalized and contain no configuration for your network (such as GPRS and MMS) - my advice: stick to your provider ROMs, either AKU2 (which you're currently running) or the newer AKU3.3 from the link above - at least until you learnt flashing and registry hacking on your device!
WOW I allready can hack the Registry but having sometimes some issues with instructions here . Like I say before... I'm a little bit in fear...
Well, it is understandable! Noone wants to end up with a brick!
There is always a risk in flashing devices! I do it since years now and was unlucky only once by flashing a SIM locked ROM to a Motorola phone. Haven't had any problems since then. The best thing is READING and if you can't find answers just post your question. Next to it is always helpful to check also other Forums or try to find guides in your own mother tongue!
Hacking the registry is not really riskfully - at leat the only one thing what can happen is that your device won't start up and you might lose your files and data. Other than that you should be able in any case to get it running with a hard reset again by holding CON button and Voice Dial button at the same time and press Reset.
Flashing can destroy the device because of it actually erases everything in the device; even the ROM before it writes the new one. But even here you will be able to enter in BOOTLOADER mode in most cases.
Yeah thats right Junner. Reading and asking... Since I flashed my SDA wrong I'm happy to have a Backup on the SD card to get the Image back. If this is the case I'm happy.
I installed AKU 3.3 and it's looking good and working fine.
Maybe I will downgrade to the custom 1.05 and do a backup. I only want to look how the WM6 is looking.
Are you German? Or german speeking?
The ROM backup to SD card via MTTY should work without CID unlocking your device! There is no need to downgrade for that purpose. I had hard times by doing it too. It took me several trials until it worked finally!
The downgrade is only necessary if you're planning to install ROMs from other providers or ROMs in other languages. I asume you're german, so, if you don't believe anything I say - this you can believe: the german AKU3.3 is the best out there you can find for the WIZ
Like I mentioned earlier: all the WM6 ROMs you will find all over the web are user created! They are either taken off from other devices and changed around until they worked on the WIZ or just visual pepped up AKU3.3 ROMs (the one you installed now). Allthough, I did not find any WM6 out ther which did not have issues in one way or another ...
I speak a little bit german , yeah!
We have WURSTFEST here once a year with lots of Sauerkraut and beer ...
Mates, if I read my rom am i going to be able to copy it to pc and Dump it with a ROM Kitchen?

need help htc 8125

hi i was trying to flash my friends htc 8125 with the tutorial on this web and now i just have 3 color display or boot mode i think. im new this was my first time i flashet first with buton ... flash but not work error 302 but after i flash with alternative flash was in the tutorial and i get an error to so i dont know what to do how to repair
HTC CINGULAR 8125
IPL 1.05
SPL 1.05
I'm kinda of new too, but I believe you just have to pick the rom u want to flash up to. U r at the ideal ipl & spl. I just did that to mine about a week ago and then flashed it EXACTLY like forum said and then just update to 3.XXIPL & 3.XXSPl. After which I picked 1 of the TNT rOMs and wella! try to flash it up now
i dont know wheres to find the roms do you have a link or something
Have you CID unlocked yet?
Obviously not unlocked yet!
Cause he stucks on step 1 !
hahahaha upgrade an original rom... try the 2.26 tmobile not 3.08 please...
Hey Que
I will be getting T-Mobile any hour today...
I will be following all the instructions and try to use a Cingular card on it.
I'm trying to decide what to use for updating the rom on this 8125 the ipl reads 2.25 the spl reads 2.25. in the tutorial there isnt any mention of these that I can ascertain. the other numbers are os 2.25.11.1 gsm 02.25.11
Is this even a necessity. The unit shuts down and is very difficult to get restarted, seems to be a good unit, just looking to make it more reliable. Thanks in advance for the help.
hydafl said:
I'm trying to decide what to use for updating the rom on this 8125 the ipl reads 2.25 the spl reads 2.25. in the tutorial there isnt any mention of these that I can ascertain. the other numbers are os 2.25.11.1 gsm 02.25.11
Is this even a necessity. The unit shuts down and is very difficult to get restarted, seems to be a good unit, just looking to make it more reliable. Thanks in advance for the help.
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Your phone is running the official cingular stock rom and has official IPL/SPL 2.25 (Bootloaders),its nothing to be worried about,now it depends if you prefer to reflash the official wm5 rom or wud like to upgrade to latest wm6.1 custom build roms.
If you want to keep official then download the official wm5 stock rom and simply flash it,but if you desire to upgrade to latest wm6.1 rom,as no official wm6 roms are provided,therefore,you'll have to flash a custom build wm6.1 rom,and for that you'll have to get your phone CID unlocked.
my phone is in boot mode i dont have the roms im new wheres can i find the rom that you say the tmobile my phone was with the original cingular rom or where can i find the original one
mmmmm ok!
I dont have the link but you an enter in wiki section for wizard... is a thread that said wizard goes wiki click there and then it tooks you to the wiki pages! there... you can found a link that takes you to the original roms... choose the one you see for cingular..... some links are broken so dont desperate maybe we can found other one... if you dont get it there you can choose the search tool just follow my steps on my signature says The XDA search culture...
Dont be afraid men you only need to use some more things to start unbricking your phone... (I hope so) many things tooks time cause we dont read enough now lets work men!!!
Well avoiding duplicatted posts this is gonna change many times
Here is my RUU without ID http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429327&page=9
I didnt found the cingular but try to unzip the exe file with winrar... the nk.nbf can be cutted and pasted in the RUU folder to upgrade it without ID vendor permissions... we will on touch men!
Xplain more
Xplain more of your problem remember that unlock upgrade flashing dids most be done on XP and without SIM and MiniSD pluged... be sure your batt is full charged and your USB cable dont have troubles.
Can you privide more info abour exactly what you have done... please men we need all you got
OH remember not to use so much your phone on Bootloader screen cause we need the batt almost 70% to downgrade unlock and upgrade again it dont charge in RGB screen.
About getting official Wizard Cingular ROMs.
I called HTC and Cingular they say that HTC is not licensing the Wizard WM6 from Microsoft anymore, so they are not supplying the ROMs for the public.
No official support from Cingular/HTC on Wizard for WM6 or 5 for that matter.
I'm new to pdas I've only ever had cell phones so with that in mind its confusing as to where to start. I'm electronic savvy when it comes to car repair, however some of this is daunting at best. I'd like to take this semi-bricked wizard to the next level.
Everytime I find what I'm looking for the webpage is obsolete, what to do?
hydafl said:
I'm new to pdas I've only ever had cell phones so with that in mind its confusing as to where to start. I'm electronic savvy when it comes to car repair, however some of this is daunting at best. I'd like to take this semi-bricked wizard to the next level.
Everytime I find what I'm looking for the webpage is obsolete, what to do?
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First,always post the DOC Chip version of the phone,what is the IPL/SPL of the phone.
Secondly,what exactly is the problem and what you want to do ?
the ipl/spl are at 2.25 and the specific problem is that wen in hibernate mode the only way to work with it is to remove the battery to restore functionality, then that resets the factory settings of time and date and also drops calls etc.
hydafl said:
the ipl/spl are at 2.25 and the specific problem is that wen in hibernate mode the only way to work with it is to remove the battery to restore functionality, then that resets the factory settings of time and date and also drops calls etc.
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Its a G3 version,download the official stock wm5 rom from here and flash it:-
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe
But,if you want to upgrade to latest wm6 then follow this link and do it correctly as the guide reads :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
Good luck
Well I think its bricked no screen and no charge light, should I buy a new battery or just sell it for parts? I really tried to find the correct place to update and I goofed what can I say its my responsibility, is thereanymore I can do from this point?
hydafl said:
Well I think its bricked no screen and no charge light, should I buy a new battery or just sell it for parts? I really tried to find the correct place to update and I goofed what can I say its my responsibility, is thereanymore I can do from this point?
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G3 devices don't get Bricked like this,by just flashing a rom,untill and unless you have flashed any G4 IPL/SPL on it,otherwise,G3 phones never get Bricked.So most probably its the battery,try to get the battery charged or get another battery from a friend and confirm it.
As an update and thank you very much. I purchased a new battery and the the store was good enough to pre charge it. We installed the above official wm5 file and its currently going throuh re updating itself. I did happen to notice that it now has an AKU2 file. Is this an update over and above what I had originally?
Once again thanks....
Are there any problems with 3G sim cards because when I installed the card the phone reacts as if there is no battery. No charge indicator or any activity.
Problem solved, it helps to have the sim card properly seated.......
Thanz!
You are most welcome,glade its working.
Yes,the above rom is AKU 2,its an upgrade to your previous official Rom,always try to keep the battery fully charged,as it creates many problems if it gets below the required retention charge of 30%.
Try out the Guide I posted above and see if you can get it CID unlocked and upgraded to latest wm6.1 rom,thats where the fun begins....!

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