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Help me revive my 8125.

I have an unlocked 8125 on cingular.
I upgraded to a blackjack a few months ago, and stopped using my 8125. I left the 8125 in my bedroom, and the battery went completely dead. Now I'm trading the blackjack off in a deal for a TyTN, and I need to use the 8125 in the interim. I can't get it to do anything. Whether connected to a car charger, wall charger, or USB, I get no lights, no boot screen, no nothing. Do I have any options or do I need to go buy a $20 prepay phone for the next few days?
Edit - Sorry, found it with a search, I never imagined there would be a readily available fix. This worked for me.
SteRo said:
OK here's the solution.
First of all, be aware that the MDA can NOT charge unless the OS is fully loaded. If for whatever reason your battery gets fully depleted, you have to do the following (it involves ruining a 5 $ cable and doing some surgery):
- first, go out and buy a new USB-to-mini-USB cable, unless you have 2 already (or one and the original charger)
- take out the battery
- take the USB-to-mini-USB cable, cut off the mini-USB plug and expose the four wires
- strip the red (+) and black (-) wire and twist the copper ends of each wire
- now CAREFULLY attach the right wire to the right connector on the battery (so + on + and - on -) and tape it there so it stays firmly on
- put the cable in your (running) PC or put the charger in the wall socket
- let the battery recharge for an hour or so, then put it back in the Wizard and reboot
- now when it is fully rebooted, you need the second cable to charge your Wizard completely, the way you're used to.
Worked for me! I've kept the ruined cable, just in case it happens again.
Good luck!
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Original post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1206238&postcount=9

XDA Mini S....Dead....no really

Hi all,
Right, the battery on my XDA Mini S was getting low, so I plugged it into the wall charger (not an official one, its a motorola mini usb charger 5v, 850mA)
It was left charging for a couple of days. I think? Someone could have turned off the switch? But the switch was on this morning
Anyway.....It doesn't boot, no signs of life at all, if i plug it into the wall charger then there's no lights.
Doesn't even go to boot loader.
No response when plugging it into USB.
I've tried hard reset, no nothing.
It's weird because its been working perfectly.
I've been googling and reading the forums here.
I've had a go at "jumping" or reviving the battery. Maybe I'm doing it wrong?
I bought a 9v battery, took apart a mini usb cable and removed the red and black wires. I've been holding the wires from the 9v battery connecters to the tips of the + and - plates.
Still nothing.
Can anyone suggest anything?
Surely it can't just become a paper weight suddenly?
This hasn't happened from flashing either.
I've also tried another charger, which didn't work, so the charger isn't the problem.

Wohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Fixed it.
I tried "reviving" the battery again.
Except this time I tried connecting the + and - to different plates.
My sticker on the back of my battery lies, and tells me the wrong + and -
So I googled what an XDA Mini S battery should REALLY look like....voila!

better buy a 1AMP Wall charger and don't let the battery completely discharge.

Yeah, I heard this problem with a friend of mine as well. Battery ran out completely and it wouldnt charge at all (seems that it only charges if the phone is on, so, yeah, figures).
My suggestion on that case would be to try something else to charge the battery alone, dont know a specific charge but sometimes little things like putting it in the freezer for some time works to give it a tiny little life back, enough to turn on the phone, you never know.

hey i have same problem with that
im using 9 v batteries and connect to mda batteries
but still nothing
what must i do. . . . . .

would someone help me
i try all but still nothing
2 days a go my mda can on but only bootloader and then off
till now im so confused
please help me

i run out of battery too and now can't find anyway to turn on my mobile to charge. need some help too. hix

someone help us........................

ok, found the way and revive my phone
1, take a usb cable and cut it
2, there are 4 wires: red,black,white and green
we need red and black so cut those white and green
3, see on your pin, there are 6 bronze square, the frist and last have + and - icon on it
4,connect usb cable to r computer
5,red wire to the square has (+) icon
black to other
wait about 30s
6, place pin to yout phone and power on, u have some second to recharge it
nice, i'm charge my phone

it's not work for me
stiil freeze

Internal battery is very low!!! Need Help

Hi,
My wizard main battery (wiza16) was very low and the wizard stop with a message “The internal battery is very low”. After coming back home I have tried to charge but it is not taking charge and didn’t turn on anymore. I recently bought a new battery (wiza16, 3.7 VDC, 1250 mAH) thinking that it will work again but still the same problem, wizard is not taking charge or turn on.
Can anyone help me?? What can I do to start my wizard? Do I need to change the tiny little battery (which is inside the wizard)? Kindly help me.

Wizard service manual
Hi,
See if when you connect the power plug the led turns red, if yes....
If Charge light is red when plug in AC adapter, it means the main battery is not charge enough and can’t power on,
You just need to continue charge unit the light become Amber
If not, i think you have a problem.
Check if charger its working and if its pluged.
If it helps --- ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Docs_Tutorials/Wizard_Service_Manual.pdf

Wizard Battery discharge completely
Hi,
Thanks for quick reply. there is no light when i connect my wizard with PC. I don't have the AC charger, I have lost that for long and was using my PC usb to charge. trying to get one AC charger.
There was no problem with my wizard, just can't turn on after it's battery discharge completely. Even the new battery couldn't turn that on.

You'll need the original charger if the battery has complelty discharged as it will only charge from the computer if the phone is powered on.
This happened to me before.
There is a trick to giving the battery a quick charge which will give it enough juice to boot the phone up and allow it to charge from usb. its not recommended but works.
You will need a spare usb cable, cut one end of, strip the wires back and connect the red wire to + and the black to - on the battery, only do it for a short period, about 30 seconds while conneted to your computer.
You may need to give it a few 30 second bursts to give it enough juice.
Pop the battery back into the phone and switch it on while pugged into the PC
Took me a few attempts to get enough charge in the battery for it to boot up.

Wizard battery
You can also use a 9V battery to jumpstart your battery. But then you have to be more careful. I connected the 9v battery to my Wizard battery for about 15 seconds, then tried to start up my device. If not successful I started again with 15 seconds jumpstart..
But you can find more information here in the forum: just search for jumpstart or something similar....
Regards
huibuh_!

Wizard Battery discharge completely
Thank you all for information. 9V battery method didn't work for me. Looking for AC charger online and get a link (http://www2.dustin.se/pd_5010073700.aspx). Do you think this is the right one? If yes, then I can order.

yea that's the right one but if you have a friend with a ppc or maybe a razor you can use there charger most ac adapters are starting to use mini usb just a way of saving some money even though having an ac adapter is good
could also try and get one of those usb plugs that you can plug up to a wall and plug in a usb cable into the slot
but don't take my word for this wit hmy wizard i haven't had it shut all the way day
if anybody can verify this would work

AC charger not also working
I have got the AC charger yesterday. When Connect the Ac charger first time the red light on my wizard showed for just half second then dissappear. Still let that connected for whole night but no response.
Thank you all for help.

@Keland44, most Razr chargers dont work, they MUST be at least 850mA in order for the Wizard's battery to receive anything. The older Razr chargers are sometimes as low as 350mA, but the never ones are as high as 1.2A, so you need to read the label on the charger itself to be sure.

ashasaur said:
@Keland44, most Razr chargers dont work, they MUST be at least 850mA in order for the Wizard's battery to receive anything. The older Razr chargers are sometimes as low as 350mA, but the never ones are as high as 1.2A, so you need to read the label on the charger itself to be sure.
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Yup that is about right,
If the battery is complelty dead, then you need to original charger.
If you have got the right charger and you get a red light and it goes off. your phone might have a problem.
This happened to my last wizard after stupidly trying to dry out the screen after getting it wet which stopped the touchscreen working (i was drying it out while the phone was still on) well my wizard crashed.
Took ages to get it back on but it was very unreliable then one day, it wouldnt go on and charger done nothing. Unpluging and pluging the charger in several times got a red light on.
Sometimes i could get it to turn on, the charger would charge for about 5 minutes then the phone would die soon after.
Your phone might possibly be bricked.

Help :
I Have Same Problem with my wizard
Yesterday my wizard goes died, i think the battery out
when i came home, i use AC Charger for HTC Universal, for 1st time its red light then off,
after 15 minutes orange light, i try to turn on my wizard and works but only in boot loader 5 minutes again its going off again
until now my wizard wont turn on
some body help

totally dead wizard after battery drain

Hi,
That's the first time I am not able to find in this great forum a solution for a problem with one of my 2 wizards (i love this machine...)
Yesterday, one suddenly did not power on. I knew that the battery was pretty low, so I guessed was just discharged. But once I plugged it at home to the wall charger, no amber light appeared, nothing powered on! When I replaced the battery with a fresh one, nothing changed... and when I tried the "bad" battery with my second wizard+wall charger, I confirmed the battery was almost empty (2%), but worked fine.
I tried to plug the mobile to the computer, but nothing... to soft-, hard-resets... the bootloader reset... but my wizard did not respond electrically or electronically to anything... any idea what could be happening? any possible solution? I do not remember exactly which rom I was wearing now, if that matters... probably a FariaWM6_realthing_crossbow
thanks to all in any case
marcos

Maybe out of sight accident
why you leave alone your lovely wizard and so aprecciated mmmm....
its xtrange but as you say i think this kind of forum may helps you with software... took it to a cellphone repair center... they has multimeters to know where does the energy stops... maybe a little electronic component has burn it down. or try the not original and official wall chargers withj specific mhz and amperage, try something more hard.
hope i help you

more news
After being overnight without the battery, this morning I tried a "resurrection"
I just put back the battery, did a softreset, and it worked!... really!? no... just the first two screens (HTC welcome and machine tests) It did not go forward, and a second reset it did not work either... now it's again like yesterday, just dead
I think there is something else than just an electronic problem, but who knows. I recommend you not to let the battery too low!
Marcos

Charging a completely dead Wizard battery
Delapena,
I've had this problem a bunch of times with my Wizard (Cingular 8125 branded version). I was able to get it working again using the instructions of a VERY helpful person(s) who I want to give credit to but cant remember right now (sorry in advance) so just FYI this works for me, but the credit goes to the original poster (will edit later if I recall).
Easiest method (if available):
1) Locate your STOCK 5vdc/1.0A wall charger.
2) Remove stock battery, put it in a ziplock bag, place in freezer for 5-10 min or so. This should minimize the internal resistance of the battery to boost VDC across the terminals (in case you ran the battery very, very very dead).
3) After the battery is good and cold, put it back in the phone; DO NOT PRESS THE POWER BUTTON!
4) Plug the 5vdc/1.0AMP STOCK WALL CHARGER into the phone.
5) Charging indicator (solid amber LED) should light up after 5-10 seconds with no other indications (no screen, no beeps, just solid amber LED ON).
It's my understanding (may be wrong) that the 1.0amp wall charger uses/supplies 5vdc one one or more of the mini-usb plug pins than the standard USB->mini-usb cable used for standard data-transfer on standard USB-spec devices. Also, the wall charger sources a full AMP of current at 5vdc, as opposed to the 0.5amp each USB host IC is allowed to source (e.g. the USB host IC on your motherboard/front/back of computerbox).
...reply to this if you want the comprehensive method. Ill research if above doesnt work / you dont have the charger. Swamped at present though; if you need the full blown recharge-the-battery-from-the-stoneage method ill look it up---dont want to give you invalid info.
If you dont want to wait (i'd understand, been there), try searching around a bit if you havent already found what your looking for.
Reply back if you need more help, otherwise, good luck and replace your battery with a new one asap!
Cheers
(again, no credit to me on this one, got this solution from somewhere else on the forum a long while back...credit to original poster!!)

Sir,
I didnt read what you had already tried. My wizard is rebooting constantly as well. My thought is that my battery is so old that the battery charging chemistry is so out of whack that the battery charging / voltage sensing circuit is all sorts of confused as to where the (really old worn out) battery is on its charging curve.
I'm guessing that my phone is rebooting because the battery fails to supply adequate voltage at x.xx amps of current draw to the phone's internal voltage regulator. When the IVR cuts out, the phone poops its pants.
I'm currently looking for a battery replacement myself.

more... but less
Thanks for the help, brhestir. But did not work for me. Actually, I tried with the 3 batteries I have, which actually work OK in my second wizard.
The only thing I am able to "slighlty" reproduce till now:
1) Wizard remains several hours with any battery plugged
2) I put the battery back
3) I switch it on or do any kind of reset
4) Just sometimes, the machine starts up, but gets hanged up after the first screens
5) most of the times, after this... the screen turns white slowwwwly, till it switches off
6) only once, I managed to get the bootloader screen, which stayed like that with any problems... but the computer cannot connect to it, so impossible to change the rom.
Next step: to dismantle the machine (prior step before throwing it through the window)
Marcos
brhestir said:
Delapena,
I've had this problem a bunch of times with my Wizard (Cingular 8125 branded version). I was able to get it working again using the instructions of a VERY helpful person(s) who I want to give credit to but cant remember right now (sorry in advance) so just FYI this works for me, but the credit goes to the original poster (will edit later if I recall).
Easiest method (if available):
1) Locate your STOCK 5vdc/1.0A wall charger.
2) Remove stock battery, put it in a ziplock bag, place in freezer for 5-10 min or so. This should minimize the internal resistance of the battery to boost VDC across the terminals (in case you ran the battery very, very very dead).
3) After the battery is good and cold, put it back in the phone; DO NOT PRESS THE POWER BUTTON!
4) Plug the 5vdc/1.0AMP STOCK WALL CHARGER into the phone.
5) Charging indicator (solid amber LED) should light up after 5-10 seconds with no other indications (no screen, no beeps, just solid amber LED ON).
It's my understanding (may be wrong) that the 1.0amp wall charger uses/supplies 5vdc one one or more of the mini-usb plug pins than the standard USB->mini-usb cable used for standard data-transfer on standard USB-spec devices. Also, the wall charger sources a full AMP of current at 5vdc, as opposed to the 0.5amp each USB host IC is allowed to source (e.g. the USB host IC on your motherboard/front/back of computerbox).
...reply to this if you want the comprehensive method. Ill research if above doesnt work / you dont have the charger. Swamped at present though; if you need the full blown recharge-the-battery-from-the-stoneage method ill look it up---dont want to give you invalid info.
If you dont want to wait (i'd understand, been there), try searching around a bit if you havent already found what your looking for.
Reply back if you need more help, otherwise, good luck and replace your battery with a new one asap!
Cheers
(again, no credit to me on this one, got this solution from somewhere else on the forum a long while back...credit to original poster!!)
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wow i just ran into the same problem today.. my battery was low tried to plug into the cigar lighter but the fuse was blown due to another object i had plugged in so i didn't get a chance to charge it, the phone was fine all day until i left work it was completely dead.. no amber light for the charger.. have you had any luck?

hi everyone,
i solved this problem by creating a sort of bypass for the battery...
i bought a special battery used for some circuits experiments which is 4,5v..
i connected the + and - with the phone contacts, with the battery plugged...turn on the phone until the orange light is on and leave it until charge is full...
this is cause phone needs a minimum of charge to start recharge circuit...

Yes the same problem on every post
The thing of cooling batteries is an old but knowledge charging fast option but it brokes your performance batt drain so i recomend a new full battery ok? is the only way or...... charge the one you have fully fully.
and try again! tu plugin the batt once at time and again and again it wouldnt boot cause its too low to begin the OS and let you charge with the wallcharger... to charge with the wall or usb you need a bootable and functional OS ok?
hope you can find a way to charge your batt at least sufficient to boot the OS ok?
bye

well good news! 20 minutes in the freezer + 5v + 1a = win

CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mp86 said:
well good news! 20 minutes in the freezer + 5v + 1a = win
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So dont ever let the batt drains to the hell down forever hahaha.

+ Que PPC said:
So dont ever let the batt drains to the hell down forever hahaha.
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lol it was an accident i thought it was charging in the car!

Dead Battery HTC Wizard

Hi all, for those of you that have experienced a totally dead battery you'll know the pain it is to get it going again. I have recently had this happen and decided to post a fix on here.
Lesson #1 Dont let your battery die completely, if you get a low battery alarm, turn your phone right off till you can charge it.
Lesson #2 If your battery dies completely, just throwing it on the charger wont charge it. This is because the Operating System looks after the charging. If your OS wont load, your battery wont charge.
FIX:
After trying various methods on the net, I found a surefire way to jump start your Wizard so you can get it charging.
You'll need : 3 x AAA batteries and 2 lengths of wire and some tape.
I cheated here, I managed to pull a 3 pack AAA battery setup out of a regular Panasonic cordless phone which saved me having to piggy back the batteries.
1) If you dont have a battery pack, you'll need to piggy back the batteries. + to minus on each one so that you have 3 batteries connected to each other with one free + and - side. Use the tape to keep the wires from moving around and getting loose.
2) Remove the battery from the phone.
3) Put a wire from the + side to the top connector of the phone battery connection ( top gold pin, right hand side of phone nearest to the power button )
4) Put the other wire from the - side to the bottom connector of the phone battery connection ( bottom gold pin, right hand side of phone nearest to the camera button )
*** There are 6 gold connections sticking out on the side. Make sure the wires only touch the top and bottom pins. Bend them round if you have to and clip them if needed.
5) Try the phone and it should switch on now. If it does, push the battery back into place while its loading.
6) As soon as you get to the today screen, plug your charger in. Wait about 1 minute and check its charging ( from the battery icon under seconds ).
7) If its charging remove the wires from the AAA battery combo ( in case they explode or something ).
Hope this helps the next poor soul that didnt have time to charge their battery before it died completely. And thanks to all the posters that have helped me out with my problems. Long live the Wizard

While this is a good post, it in not entirely true. If your battery completly dies, you can infact use a standard wall charger that outputs 1AMP or more of power to charge it with, even if you phone wont start. The charger that is included with all HTC devices outputs 1AMP, so they should all be useable. Good post otherwise though!

Thanks ashasaur. When I posted this I did not have access to a standard wall charger. However looking at getting one just in case this happens to me again. HA I hope not.

Thanks for all that advice. In desperation, I have just bought a new battery and was relieved to see my Prophet come back to life, having, yes, let the battery run completely down. (I am away from home, where I left my charger as the Prophet seemed to charge quite happily from a USB port)
If 3 AAA batteries work ok (~4.5 volts), wouldn't it be a bit safer just to connect them to the dead battery for a while, as described above, to give it a bit of a charge, rather than risk the phone, or isn't 4.5 volts enough? Greg

buy a 4.5v 500ma adaptor and it will work
Earlier I was afraid of dead battery and use to turn off my kjam but later I got an idea and purchased one 4.5 v 500 ma wall adaptor($1 only) and cut the end socket and use it to give initial charge.
Earlier I was so much worried about my battery that had to put it in charging point where ever I find a usb port but now seems Kjam battery knows that's why haven't died for 2-3 months even though sometimes I forgot to charge it in night

pawanmehta said:
... purchased one 4.5 v 500 ma wall adaptor($1 only) and cut the end socket and use it to give initial charge
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Great idea. Just tried it with an in-car USB power adaptor, but it didn't supply enough oomph. If you follow pawanmehta's advice, you might want to check out this site - USB pin out and lead details - for the correct leads to wire up.
A quick look around the internet suggests that mains to USB power adaptors are available at £4.85 (UK) or $15 USA but I expect a proper search would turn up cheaper items. Greg

It works with a O2 XDA Mini S, but it didnt work at first time: I have to put the cable with the 3-battery-arrangement and the 3.7 1400mAh battery at the same time, it's looks like that it wont turn on if the pins are not pressed, but well, I succesfully boot and now i'm charging (i remove the 3 battery arrangement).
And, I use 3 AA Duracell batteries, I tought it's the same than using 3 AAA, 'cause they use the same voltage (1.5 for common, and 1.2 for rechargeable).
Best regards, and thanks a lot MattyZee, u have my blessings

It works with a O2 XDA Mini S, but it didnt work at first time: I have to put the cable with the 3-battery-arrangement and the 3.7 1400mAh battery at the same time, it's looks like that it wont turn on if the pins are not pressed, but well, I succesfully boot and now i'm charging (i remove the 3 battery arrangement).
And, I use 3 AA Duracell batteries, I tought it's the same than using 3 AAA, 'cause they use the same voltage (1.5 for common, and 1.2 for rechargeable).
Best regards, and thanks a lot MattyZee, u have my blessings

hey everybody...
i read the thread a few days ago and thought...okay good to know but that will never happen to me now that i know that it shouldnt...
now...a few days later...of course it happenend...
soo...i tried everything. but the things are complecated to do alone...with all the wires and then pushing the power button and installing the battery again...
so i had to give up...
but here is another way how to do it...
it is already beein mentioned i think...
use the 3 battery combo, 2 wires at both ends, take out the dead battery and put the - wire to the pin at the very botton (the bin at the longer end) and the + at the other end.
hold that just for about a minute (i think i just holded it for 10 seconds but a minute would be better maybe...)
and then put the battery back in and it should start...
oh and i tried to use a 1400mA wall adapter and it didnt worked...
but try to avoid that...
it is not a nice situation seeing youre wizard dieing like that...
and at first i thought it is not the battery...i thought it is broken...
so avoid it if possible...
thats it...

What is length wire (sorry if it's a idiotic question)
please help
btw, I have O2 xda mini S.
And can I use 3 AA batteries????

thanks a lot,it worked
once again THANK YOU

You guys are geniusses It started, but when it started I put the charger in it fro my laptop and waited a while (removed batteries) then i saw it was charging but when I was waiting some more it yust fell off !! So i started it up again with the AAA's and then putted charger back in and i was using the phone, I saw it was charging and I looked @ lvl and it kept on saying it was on 0 % :s Then i thought let me wait a while and i stopped using it so it fell off again, what did I do wrong twice ?
Thx

A 9v Battery (The type you find in smoke alarms) does the job as well.
ONLY connect it for a couple of seconds, but repeat about 5 times then connect it upto a usb data lead and after about 10 seconds it should kick in.
After its been charging for about 30 mins turn the Wizard on.
Have succesfully used this method on 3 Wizards now and it works every time!
Don't Forget To Put The Battery Back In Your Smoke Alarm!

Exceptional
Thank you. I have a Kaiser that I love, and was just handed a Wizard that wouldn't even start. This post let me boot it and start the charge.
Thanks.

Apologies for bumping an old(ish) thread but I've tried this jump start method and seem to be having no luck with it.
I've tried the methods suggested, using 3 AAA batteries didn't seem to do a thing for me, but I've had a slight result using one of those square 9V batteries; the camera flash comes on and the screen lights up but wm doesn't begin booting up (the screen just stays blank but lit).
I've also tried attempting to give the battery some charge using the method mentioned earlier but that too doesn't seem to be working either.
The battery in question is brand new (one of those extended ones with a higher mAh) and I'm assuming it's arrived with zero charge in it.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
(incase anybody is wondering, the wizard boots up fine using a different battery which is charged)
edit: if it's of any relevance, the wizard's a g4.
edit2: I've tried charging it with the wall charger but all that seems to happen is a red light flashes once every 5/10 seconds and the screen flickers on then off

Update: After numerous attempts at jump starting, my wizard now refuses to charge whatsoever.
The light flashes orange (I did follow the guide posted on the wiki about that but it had no effect) but it comes up saying it's charging onscreen, however it simply doesn't charge (the battery life just slowly drops).
It's the same using either the wall charger or usb.
I did try taking the battery out/doing a soft reset/doing a hard rest but to no avail.
Would I be correct in assuming my wizard's now broken?
I'd just donated my blueangel to a friend too as I thought I'd no longer need it, but now i'm left without a phone

I've found a standalone battery charger on the internet for around £10 or so, I might give that a try. If it works, I'll have my wizard back, albeit without being able to charge it while it's switched on. On the plus side, it would eliminate the need to jump start it ever again though.

wizard resurrection...
This problem is quite a hard time for the wizard users...
I know many users with 2 or 3 wizards in the closet because they just died, and there are none powered batterys around...
I hope this can help someone, somehow...
WIZARD RESURRECTION
Props to all!
undertuga

How did u make out with the battery issue? I have the same prob and the light on the camera lights up but i can't get it to charge and i'm using a new battery any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks

Just to repeat a comment made by ashasaur 12 months ago. You need a 1amp charger. Although someone had success with a 500mA charger, that wouldn't work for me, whilst a 1000mA (1Amp) charger worked to recover a completely discharged battery.
A new battery should not have zero charge. NiMH batteries do not like being left around fully discharged and, to the best of my knowledge, are not supplied discharged.