Hi,
after about 2 hours of hiking and measuring with GPS-Meter (where the Hermes got a little wet, but not that much) I noticed the LED on my Vario II lighting in constant red.
I tried a softreset, and after that I removed the battery.
The effect was that all of my appointments and contacts where gone.
After a restore via Sprite backup (only my PIM-Data, the rest was ok) it now flickers red and green in irregular intervals.
What does it mean?
Thanks, Günter
I'm guessing it has something to do with it getting wet... It shouldn't hard-reset on a battery removal...
I'd take the battery out, and preferably, take the whole phone apart and let it dry out. Then, try it again.
Hi,
and thanks.
It did not hardreset.
All of my programs still were on the device and work flawlessly (as far that I tested it..)
Only my appointments and contacts were erased, but my notes were still there...
Guenne said:
Hi,
after about 2 hours of hiking and measuring with GPS-Meter (where the Hermes got a little wet, but not that much) I noticed the LED on my Vario II lighting in constant red.
I tried a softreset, and after that I removed the battery.
The effect was that all of my appointments and contacts where gone.
After a restore via Sprite backup (only my PIM-Data, the rest was ok) it now flickers red and green in irregular intervals.
What does it mean?
Thanks, Günter
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Might still be damp either inside on Mboard or in the usb/charging socket.
Could try using a hairdryer to remove any moisture. Depends how wet it got really. Of course this might have nothing to do with the flickering colours. It probably did have something to do with tye Red LED though.
If thoroughly drying out does not solve problem, you may be faced with a hard reset. If this fails then you may have loose internal screen connectors or internal dampness. (even when dried out a circuit board can still play up due to trace elements left on the board or random electrical signals interfering with chips and on board memory.
Mike
It did not really get that wet, I carried it in a soft bag inside my jacket. It maybe has suffered my the temperature difference.
Ok, I have learned my lesson. I will return to my old compass.
Do you think I should do a backup and remove the battery to avoid further damage?
Guenne said:
It did not really get that wet, I carried it in a soft bag inside my jacket. It maybe has suffered my the temperature difference.
Ok, I have learned my lesson. I will return to my old compass.
Do you think I should do a backup and remove the battery to avoid further damage?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No harm in doing a backup, but obviously don't overwrite your last backup - if there is a software issue you'll be backing up the settings that are playing up. If you use a programme that does a full backup I think I would do a hard reset and then restore the last good backup. BUT I would give it time to dry out first. Specifically not in a container/case of any sort. I notice that mine in it's leather case gets quite a bit of moisture on the screen when I've been in a steamy bathroom. This may have been your problem - more one of a damp atmosphere rather than getting wet as such.
Not sure that removing the battery will make a lot of difference but you could as a precaution until thoroughly dry.
Mike
Solution:
I borrowed a dry-out-bag for my mother's hearing aid..
Guenne said:
Solution:
I borrowed a dry-out-bag for my mother's hearing aid..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We like creative people here
Mike
Did it sing "daisy daisy" before acting a little strange?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
V
Can we have a forum for the Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic HAL 9000. I know it's not an HTC device but I feel any device capable of mental breakdown deserves our help.
Mike
Related
As I've been lurking for a while, I thought I would sign up and ask a question as well as donate something in the way of pics as I noticed other members asking..
My xda2 loses it's speaker function a few minutes after I reset it.. I've done hard and soft resets, flashed another rom (127.181 currently), cleaned and checked speaker connection and it still loses all sound after a couple of mins. I'm sure it must be software problem, but what?? anyone got any ideas? I've read back through a lot of threads here but no joy with what I've tried so far.
These pics are me taking my xda2 apart to clean the contacts and thought I would photo my progress, excuse my camera and PS skills, not that clever, hope they are of some use to members;
There's 6 intial screws to remove after taking off back and battery:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
This is how I removed the antenna cover using a thin screwdriver:
Second phase of lifting antenna cover:
The two Torx 6 screws holding on the antenna:
Removing the back, stage 1
Removing the back, stage 2
General board layout, highlighting the 3 very small crosshead screws you need to remove:
Showing Audio connector, This can cause 'contact' problems when headphones are removed:
On board battery, showing you what needs de-soldering if you have to replace it:
The screen connecting cable.. NOTE how it is butted up to the white part of the connector:
Raising the board over, observe anti static caution (Unlike me lol):
Lower section of the board:
Microphone assembly:
Speaker assembly:
Side switches:
Just a caution when re-assembling!:
Update: after playing with the xda2 all day, I've realised it loses sound when it goes into standby.. if I soft reset the sound is fine untill it goes into standby, then when I press the power button to wake it, there's no sound again?! Can't understand it as I reflashed with image from o2 site as well. Maybe a registry setting, but I'm not that clued up as to how to look at the registry, let alone know what I'm looking for. I'm running MS pocket pc version 4.20.0 (Build 14053). Thanks
Hi Scratch, i experience this problem before, when i broke my CONNECTORS (21 pin), i also did disassemble my XDA 2 and cleaned the speaker terminals,but to no avail. I think the Connectors has something to do with the speaker sounds. Have you tried using your headphone or headset? had you recently dropped your XDA 2 with the charger connector on it? Maybe there could be some pin desoldered from the motherboard. check it.
Please can anybody post the pictures, how to unscrew O2 XDA Neo or Mini, I-mate jamin, i-mat jam, any one with this shape
Thx u scratch i was open my device,but i really dont know how to change backup battery (Pic9),do you tell me more how to remove backup pin!Thx u
Resistance (Ohms) across working Microphone
Next time somebody has their Himalaya apart, I'd appreciate it if they could take the time to measure the resistance (Ohms) across their working microphone. I'm trying to troubleshoot a broken mic. and I'm not sure if it's the mic. itself or something else.
I was getting by just fine using the "wired" jack, however, I managed to break the jack in two. Since this happened after the mic. quit, I'm more inclined to think its the mic. itself. I've ruled out a software problem and I've taken the phone apart once already to clean the mic. contacts. Does anybody have any ideas?
I had my Universal in my back pocket when I sat on the car's seat. I felt it there right away so I got off the car and checked on the Universal, the screen'd gonr white with some colored lines! The phone was fully functional except for the screen.
Today I check the coxial cable but got nothing. Tried to play around just doing things with no luck.
I was hopeless, thought I'd pay loads for the screen. I went nuts and started to smack it on my desk. Guess what happened, it worked again!
I was like shocked and happy to see the screen back on ! I'm gonna check on it now, rotate the screen and so, lets see if it stays alive.
Cheers.
Try it again mate. If it works, we can add it to the wiki
good job!, I know a story like this!
my friend was playing with his Universal while breathing some fresh air out
then suddenly...ooooooooooooooooo
the Universal made its way down from the 2nd floor...
ofcourse after collecting its pieces (SD card, Battery cover, Battery, SIM, Stylus)...
going up and turn it on and its working! but with the same problem (white screen with color lines)....
my friend was pissed off..so he began to hit the desk near the device and the screen re-worked again!
and the device never went to the service until now...
this happened 6 months before!
the only things that left..some scratches and the broken cover!
strong Universal
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
A story with a happy ending. Serendipity.
V
If you take a look at the Lcd screen on a universal there are connectors around the corners of the screen (probably find a pic on ebay).
My universal had a problem with a blue tint on the screen but with a squeeze near the upper left of the screen i heard a click and the problem went away.
chances are a swift bang may be resitting the connectors. you might want to try squeezing the corners either side of the screen before resulting to more extreme techniques.
Of course you could remove the covers and be sure of getting good connections
blackest_knight said:
If you take a look at the Lcd screen on a universal there are connectors around the corners of the screen (probably find a pic on ebay).
My universal had a problem with a blue tint on the screen but with a squeeze near the upper left of the screen i heard a click and the problem went away.
chances are a swift bang may be resitting the connectors. you might want to try squeezing the corners either side of the screen before resulting to more extreme techniques.
Of course you could remove the covers and be sure of getting good connections
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just don't squeeze the corner too hard. I'm now looking for a new screen as I've got the dreaded 'bleeding ink' across the right-hand corner of mine.
Anyone know of a supplier of new screens?
MONGO Smashh!!!...............hmmmm Mongo fix
if it doubt whack the fker i say
p.s the above advice does not extended to women,children or bosses
p.p.s it can have a 50-50 chance of working on cars i find,but louder swearing does help
On an old PDA, I had one of them WiFi SD card thingies.
It was so temperamental and I thought it might have been the contacts or something.
Anyway, I took the WiFi SD apart and put the bare circuit board in the slot, it kinda got stuck, but that also made funny colours come on the screen.
ok i have a 8525 with vp3G 3.61 and radio 1.50. here recently - like after i dropped it in the sink full of water - if i try to do a reboot on it or power it down and go to power it back up wihOUT the microSD card in it is exceptionally slow. only does it with my microSD card not in it. any ideas? THanks
bmc357374 said:
ok i have a 8525 with vp3G 3.61 and radio 1.50. here recently - like after i dropped it in the sink full of water - if i try to do a reboot on it or power it down and go to power it back up wihOUT the microSD card in it is exceptionally slow. only does it with my microSD card not in it. any ideas? THanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can only assume it is trying to load some application or file from the card. But you do not say what apps are installed at start up and whether they may have necessary files on the card.
Mike
mikechannon said:
I can only assume it is trying to load some application or file from the card. But you do not say what apps are installed at start up and whether they may have necessary files on the card.
Mike
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks mike...after thinking about what you said you were right. one of the apps in my HTC home plugin launcher thing is installed on the card. removed it from the launcher and restarted without the microsd card: problem solved. i dont know y i didnt think about that. maybe ill use the excuse its been a long week
bmc357374 said:
its been a long week
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Mike
lol that pretty much sums it up. thanks again
woah, you have dropped ur 8525 in a tub of water, submerging it compleatly, and it still works????
TurboX2 said:
woah, you have dropped ur 8525 in a tub of water, submerging it compleatly, and it still works????
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yup. i had just ran the dishwater in the sink with dish soap. sat the phone on the counter. roommate went to slide something in the sink without paying attention and knocked in my phone too. i come back into the kitchen and see some nice light shining up through the water. so of course i hurry up and pull it out. just as i was about to take the battery out the screen went black and white. put the blow dryer too it and 8 circulation fans for desktop computers. thought i had it dry so i tried powering it back on. screen was almost like an LCD monitor with a bad backlight with just ghost images. so i called AT&T and told them it just quit (i may have forgot to mention the sink incident). well ive already had 5 replacements since march for various reasons (mostly cuz i may have dropped them and they got scratched so i wanted a new one) but anyways they told me bring it to the store to verify there was no damage. which somehow the little sticker meant to check for moisture didnt change so i was figuring i was good. went to school the next day and left the phone in the front seat of my car for about 4 hours came back out and tried it again to make sure it was still gonna do the ghost image thing and low and behold it worked with no problem. screen came on normal in full color and everything. touch screen still works and everything. its like it never happened from what you said i guess im the first to successfully drop an 8525 into water, fully submerge it and it still worked.
I have a weird problem with my Wildfire's screen after I did an OTA upgrade to Froyo.
First, the top of the screen stopped working. The taskbar wouldn't work and I the top wasn't responding. All of a sudden, after approximately a month or so, it started working again.
It worked fine for a few weeks and then the right side of the screen has a problem. All of a sudden it started automatically hitting the spot on the screen where the letter "P" would appear on the keyboard. When I was trying to type out a message, the letter "P" would get hit on its own over and over again. When the keyboard was not open, it would still happen.
I felt it might be a virus, so I did a hard reset. This still didn't stop. So I switched off my phone and kept it in a desk for 48 hours. When I switched it on again, this problem stopped, but the right side of my phone was not responsive (approximately 4 milimeters of it).
I can see that this is clearly not a hardware problem and has something to do with the firmware/OS. I'm not too sure what to do. I've tried flashing new ROMs on to my phone, but it remains the same way.
Incidently, when I tried flashing "TheNextSense" ROM on to my phone, the phone started hitting the portion of the screen where the "P" key would appear. When I switched back to CM7, it stopped, but the right side was unresponsive.
Is this something to do with the memory? Or is this a known issue with upgrades/certain ROMs?
Any help will be appreciated. This is driving me crazy
why do you think its not a harware problem ?
for me it sounds like it is one. (temperature or short circuit problem)
IANAHRM (I Am Not An HTC Repair Man) but I think the touch screen connector has just slightly worn loose, perhaps due to temperatures. It sits on the right side of the main board (left side of the phone itself). I know the Wildfire can survive quite a motion shock so that shouldn't be it (I hope).
Nandroid backup and restore jobs heat up my phone quite a bit, did this occur on your device as well while you were installing roms? That might explain the change in behaviour.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
henkdv said:
IANAHRM (I Am Not An HTC Repair Man) but I think the touch screen connector has just slightly worn loose, perhaps due to temperatures. It sits on the right side of the main board (left side of the phone itself). I know the Wildfire can survive quite a motion shock so that shouldn't be it (I hope).
Nandroid backup and restore jobs heat up my phone quite a bit, did this occur on your device as well while you were installing roms? That might explain the change in behaviour.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope. It's never heated up till now. This happened all of a sudden, and it gets worse with upgrades. It's like, for some reason, the phone isn't able to function properly with any ROM other than the stock ROM. I'm going to try to put back eclair on it today and see whether it works. Will keep you posted.
stavro said:
why do you think its not a harware problem ?
for me it sounds like it is one. (temperature or short circuit problem)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because it doesn't always occur. It kind of gets fixed on its own after a few days. It's like my phone has a ghost in it
I put back the stock Froyo ROM and now the problem is 50% better - much of the portion of the screen that was dead earlier is now responding. But the rest still isn't. Any ideas? :-(
I dropped my Axon 7. Though there's no visible damage, the phone will frequently freeze (not turn off) and just continue to display whatever was on the screen at the time. Or the the charging LED will remain on if it was just charging and not actually booted, even if I unplug the phone.
I opened it up and reconnected all the cables, but no luck.
Once it starts, if left gently on a table it will continue to run, but if I jostle it it will likely freeze.
I've been experimenting and know I get the same behavior if the phone is running on AC with the battery disconnected (I think that worked...) , or if I run unplugged with the battery.
Any ideas? Since I already have the phone open and don't much have to loose, I'm willing to attempt more surgery, but I'm not sure how to diagnose the fault. (Yes, past the 2 year damage warranty).
Happy for your thoughts and suggestions!
There was a post on here with the exact same scenario, if I remember correctly it was a cable to the screen/display.
I've dropped phones and sometimes the pins bend slightly so check the connection pins.
I even repaired one that fell into a bowl of milk
found something?
Syberclone said:
There was a post on here with the exact same scenario, if I remember correctly it was a cable to the screen/display.
I've dropped phones and sometimes the pins bend slightly so check the connection pins.
I even repaired one that fell into a bowl of milk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok - What do you think about this? I can't tell if this is superficial. ($20 USB microscope I bought for my kids rocks)
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Assuming this is the issue, does replacing this cable mean removing the screen? I've heard that's hard...
I can't see from the pic properly but it is possible, the only way to know for sure is to compare with an original condition unit. (Looks better than some I've seen)
I was fortunate enough to have the same phone as a backup so I could check in my case.
Just make sure all connectors are snapped into place and no broken fragments in the connection.
I hope you get it sorted
Some pics of a brand new screen taken with my Axon and a small lens i had lying around
Syberclone said:
I can't see from the pic properly but it is possible, the only way to know for sure is to compare with an original condition unit. (Looks better than some I've seen)
I was fortunate enough to have the same phone as a backup so I could check in my case.
Just make sure all connectors are snapped into place and no broken fragments in the connection.
I hope you get it sorted
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just in case it wasn't clear what I was was keying in on.
dabramov said:
Just in case it wasn't clear what I was was keying in on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's in the outermost part, it will surely not cause anything at all...
Choose an username... said:
That's in the outermost part, it will surely not cause anything at all...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was afraid of that. Back to the drawing board... or just wait for good Black Friday deals.