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??New versions *W*M*2*0*0*3*??

Hello,
does anyone know when the final version of W*M*2*0*0*3 will be released? And when it will be available to us? Was it released by Microsoft,yet?
I hope it will solve problems with memory card erasures and missing "More" tab in Phone Settings...
Thank you.

The "missing more tab" is merely missing because one does not need to change bands on 900/1800 phones: US versions will have this tab, I'm sure.
What I am not so sure about is how much pressure from the customers there is to bring WM2003 to this unit, with the XDA II coming and all.

probaly lots of pressure... but no inclination from the relevent(sp?) parties...
As if they would listen to us anyways? I mean we already know how *helpful* O2 are in the 'after care' department so what chance is there of them bringing out a rom?
From my experience of their compilation and testing of previous roms the development department must be VERY under funded as it is.
I think all 3 of them will be working overtime to prepare 2003 for the XDAII and wont really care about those that have already provided their cash...
one glimmer of hope I think is that the XDAII has the same rom size as the XDA... therefore will it be possible to 'borrow' the rom from that and put it in the XDA ? :twisted: .... or will they take 3 months of their project management to impliment restrictions and locks on the device... (time they could have spent porting it to the XDA)
I'm sure I'll prolly buy one... the pretty colours dazzle me.... but I hear Intel are planning a new Xscale cpu for 2004.... which is meant to be a lot better than this one... so will our brand new xdaII be dead as roadkill by the same time next year?
and I just had a thought.... the current XDAII cpu is an Xscale... and the XDA is a strongarm.... so there goes the 'borrowing' idea :?
yes I type while I think..
yes I dont delete text I decide is wrong before posting

XDA developer Peter Poelman:
I want the "More" tab to setup Cell Broadcast and auto pick-up - those settings were on this tab too.
ALL:
So you think that it'll be hard to get the final release? That defines a question - where is the kitchen rom from? It's a silly question, I know... But if you want to answer, send me an private message.
Thanx

Correction - If you want to give me an answer... :lol:
Sorry for my english...

It would appear that the version we have is OEM
the T-mobile branding I'm not so sure about maybe its a beta internal release inside T-mobile.
Remember though that just because they have it.... doesnt mean we will.
There is even a Apple OSX for Intel machines... Apple has currently no intentions of releasing it but does have 8 developers slowly working away
AOL for linux ? yes there was one..... but apart from the early beta which has since disapeared nobody has heard anything about it since.
Stranger things have happened (or have not as the case seems to be here)

Ok 2 things here. For the person wanting the "More" tab on the phone settings, which ROM version are you using? I am using 4.00.16, and it is in there. Perhaps this is not part of the ROM version, but depends on what radio stack is being used?
Secondly, I wouldn't be too surprised to at least see a T-Mobile release of WM 2003, but I also wouldn't guarantee it. They have released - ok not released - but a couple different betas have become "available" so we know they are working on it. I should say we know they were working on it. No telling now, as no new betas have appeared since June or July.

The person who wanted the "More" Tab was me I use 4.00.11 and don't want to install 4.00.16 until there will be a "clear" version without T-Mobile add-ons. The "More" tab must be part of the ROM because it is a part of system! I have radio stack 4.21. My boyfriend has the same version of radio stack, but PPC2002 and he has the "More" Tab.
About the new versions of those betas - maybe they have it better secured?

wuffi said:
The person who wanted the "More" Tab was me I use 4.00.11 and don't want to install 4.00.16 until there will be a "clear" version without T-Mobile add-ons. The "More" tab must be part of the ROM because it is a part of system! I have radio stack 4.21. My boyfriend has the same version of radio stack, but PPC2002 and he has the "More" Tab.
About the new versions of those betas - maybe they have it better secured?
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if you installed a based ROM, meaning no add-on software or not cook with the kitchen, there will be a more tab on you setting, but if you add some software to the ROM the setting for the more tab will be overiden, anyway you can still setup this thing in the registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel... the setting for keylock is there and also for the setting of automatic answer is there, just change the value.
8)

And what about Cell Broadcast...?

wuffi said:
And what about Cell Broadcast...?
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What do you mean, SMS Broadcasting? it is in the HKEY_CURRENT_USERS\Software\Microsoft\SMS\Protocols\Broadcast...
I think you will find what you need here. :roll:

I will try it, thank you

Password/Locking issues on ROM 1.30.68

Hi Guys,
I have installed the new ROM and radio upgrade. It has made my Universal really fly ! I use it mainly for tomtom 5.21 and it has sped up the refresh screen and made the maps smoother.
The only issue that is really annoying is that the Password program has been replaced by a "lock" program that does not recognise that Tomtom is running and the screen keeps coming on and I need to tap password in whilst driving.
I dont want to downgrade the ROM so does anyone know how to revert back to old password program or know a better one to use?
Thanks for any help

It might be worth just grinning and bearing it. its only a "test" rom, the real one cant be to far away now,
test rom, hmmm,, what of it were they testing???
are there lots of test roms we have not been privy to? i would imagine so hmm.
heh i got it, its tomtoms fault, must be. they should release another patch. surlly its tomtom app thats not supressing the timeout!!!

Guess you are right.
I just wish each rom upgrade would be "better" rather than just "different"

The solution
Seems to be here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43970&highlight=tomtom+password

Look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43970&highlight=tomtom+password

Brand new O2miniS: how to tweak to get max performance?!

Dear all,
I'm new here, I've had a good look through the forum, but I feel a lot of the information is a little over my head. I was hoping for some advice for my new MiniS out of the box:
Regarding setting up my device, are there any programs I should or shouldn't install? Or anything I should uninstall immediately?
Am I better off with the O2 ROM, or is there another I should flash my device with?
Are there any particularly good pieces of software that you could recommend?
Thank-you very much for your help,
s_h_a_h_i_d

look at htc magician forumpart (topics)

look at htc magician forumpart (topics)

Surely since the XDA Mini S is an HTC Wizard, not a Magician, he'd be better off looking at the Wizard forum?

o2 mini is a magician init

Yes, but the thread title refers to an O2 Mini S.....

He is refering to MiniS mate.

HA HA, Now that the squabbles are over, , I'd like to add my bit.
The best thing anyone can do first off with the MINI S is toss that o2 customised crap right off.
I am assuming you have'nt put too much on it yet
Press the soft reset button. (Under the IR port)
As you let go of that reset button, make sure you are pressing both the comm manager button, AND the voice buttons. Thats the top left side and upper right side buttons.
This is called a hard reset and WILL ERASE EVERYTHING prom the phones memory.
Do the screen calibration and cut/paste bit.
When it say's "Tap the screen to start using your device", be ready to press the soft reset again.
This is because when you tap the screen, a customisation box will appear.
PRESS THE RESET BUTTON, when you see this box.
The phone reboots and hey presto, proper PDA, not o2's idea of one.
Hope this helps.

Just to add to the above, there is a thread on here regarding decent software for the PDA.
Have a look through the thread list and you'll see it.
I would recommend Resco as a decent file manager with some excellent features. Be careful with some of these tools if you are not sure what you are doing.
Other than that, have fun.

Press send to restore factory default, other keys to quit
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So which key is the send button?
EDIT: 4th time lucky, the green one

Horrorwood said:
Press send to restore factory default, other keys to quit
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So which key is the send button?
EDIT: 4th time lucky, the green one
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LOL, oops, sorry forgot about that bit!!! :?

Hi Jerry-S and everyone.
I've just got a T-Mobile MDA Vario, the Wizard version of T-Mobile.
Would you recommend me doing the same hard reset so that I can get rid of T-Mobile settings?
My Device Information shows:
ROM version: 1.6.2.4 WWE
ROM date: 11/15/05
Radio version: 01.12.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.23
ExtROM version: 1.6.2.105
Can I update to a newer ROM and if yes where can I download it and how can I update ROM, please?
Thanks for your help.
Rgds,
PPB

Hi BUSPBP,
I am a relatively new user myself and won't offer advice on anything I am not sure of.
I have seen ROM updates on here for other networks but as I am on o2 and running my most recent ROM, I can't comment.
Just to be sure you understand though, the updating of a rom that isn't specifically for your unit has many risks. At the end of the day, it's up to you so just put ROM in the search page and have a look at what comes up.
As for removing the Network Provider software, I would assume that the process is the same for them all, as the extra operator features are installed from an extended ROM.
That's to say, the main OS is installed first and then the extra stuff installs afterward.
If you can replace things that you have put on your phone then give it a go, it'll either work or not.
At the end of the day, if you like the extra things and want them back, do another hard reset and let everything install as it wants.
Hope this helps.

Hi Jerry-S,
Thanks for your help. After reading through some threads in this forum I've decided to upgrade my Wizard with the new Qtek ROM. It now works much faster and I don't have any more problem with Wifi connection.
Can you or anybody please advise what does the ExtROM do and if I can exclude it from the device? Any good in doing this?
PPB

If you think of it this way, it's a little easier to understand.
When the device is new or has a hard reset, the following happens.
(If I get this wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know. LOL)
1. The device powers up and a section called the Bootloader starts.
2. As the operating system is not there, it installs it from a ROM.
3. The operating system then runs and you do the stylus calibration
and the date / time settings
4. That is the PDA set up.
5. After that, another ROM is installed, (If you let it), which contains all
the customised software for your particular phone company supplier.
All it means is that the basic Windows OS is running at the same time as the custom software and the Windows functions are accessed by the company customisations that you are presented with.
Because of this, the processor in the PDA is working in effect, twice as hard and it is slower.
As far as I am aware, there is nothing in this custom layer that can't be done directly in the Windows layer.
I would like to upgrade my ROM also as the o2 ROM is one of the oldest versions released, but as I see it, once installed, there is currently no way to downgrade back to the previous version if something goes wrong. Thats the only reason I have'nt done it.
As for removing it completely, I am not sure. I have seen posts on here reffering to that, but I think it is contained somewhere that you couldn't make use of anyway. i.e. Making use of the extra storage space that it takes up.
I know I get a bit long winded, but I have a bit of a job explaining stuff. LOL, sorry.

Hi Jerry-S,
I remember someone told that we could prevent the ExtROM from installation by soft-resetting before that process, but since I don't know yet what are included in the ExtROM and if there's any good in doing so I haven't tried it yet.
I don't know if the O2 device and network settings have anything too special that you could hardly set. In my case though I've got the T-Mobile version I am actually using Orange, so it's perhaps easier for me to come to the decision. And it's worth it for me. No problem with the upgrade, given that I've unlocked CID in advance as someone has warned. And the device is running much faster. That has even halted my intension of doing the overclock, at least for now
PPB

Comments recieved.
I must admit, I kept looking and looking at the ROM file on my computer thinking errrrrrrmmmmm...............
Well I did it, but I didn't notice any real increase in speed, actually it seemed slower to me.
That in mind I though, balls and put the o2 Rom back on.
As for the EXT ROM reatures, I think the main advantage is that the MMS and Mobile web settings are set for you, but those could be found quite easily.

Cingular 8525 Troubleshooting and Inquiries

I've just recieved my Cingular 8525 and it looks great. I've got it unlocked and using it up here in Toronto (Canada) under Rogers. It was a tad expensive so I may decide to sell it, but I wanted to play around with a couple things first and thought that you guys were the best to help me.
1. I wanted to know what program can map the 'ok' key as minimize and close if the button was held down.
2. My keys aren't map correctly to the displayed keys on the keyboard. The letters and numbers are right, but some of the symbols like _, ?, ;, etc. are not mapped correctly and I wanted to know how I could fix this? I'm guessing I have to play around with the registry? I'm using the default Cingular ROM (v 1.30.502.1 dated 08/21/06) so I don't know why some symbols are mapped incorrectly.
3. I'm interested in the Tytndailer and was wondering if you guys are having any problems with it? I would like the ability to dail with 1 hand. =p
4. I want to upgrade my ROM to the latest Cingular one which is the 2.06.502.3 dated 02/02/07, but I'm not too familiar with flashing ROMs. What is the easiest/best method to upgrade the rom? If I do upgrade to the latest Cingular ROM, would I be running WM6? I do know that the latest ROM release enables the PTT button and I'm wondering if anyone knew if Rogers supported PTT. =p
Anyway, if anyone could help a fellow HTC 8525 user out, that would be great. As long as none of these things void warranty, I'm all for it. Thanks a lot!

If anyone is interested in a trade for the phone, I'm open to that actually.
Anyway, if someone can help me out with my four dilemmas, that would be great!

AT LAST!

Well...
Finally took the plunge and shelled out for the HD2!
I trully hope it lives up to my hopes for it.
Can anyone help me out, though. What ROM should I flash on it? I still want Copilot, would like the home screens in landscape also if possible. Any ideas?
Thanks and I look forward to lots of great help from this forum, like I got from this great site for all my other phones! Well done all you guys that work so hard so that dumba** like me can get my phones the way I want them!!!
Scott
PS Can you get the navigation panel to work without the car holder? I know, I will search, just thought I'd ask since I was here

scottmo said:
PS Can you get the navigation panel to work without the car holder? I know, I will search, just thought I'd ask since I was here
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I can't help with the other things you request (I'm scared of going away from standard as I'm not confident in all this modification stuff!), but you can look for the NaviPanel.exe progam in the Windows folder of your phone. Click and hold on it, select copy, then navigate from the Windows folder to Windows/Start Menu/Programs and tap the menu soft button, select edit>paste shortcut (and rename if required). This should appear in your Start Menu now. You can the add it to a quick link (it hasn't got an icon though).

ROM 1.66
Rom 1.66 is the ROM to go...

re: the navipanel - bizarrely, mine decided to switch on navipanel by itself when I mounted the phone on one of the cheapo mounting kits from ebay - I've already modded my dashboard for my Garmin, which got power through mini USB (routed the cables behind the dash and out into a cubby) - so instead of pulingl the dash apart again I'm using a mini-to-micro adapter (99p off ebay or something).
My only guess is there's something special about the Garmin lead that tells the HD2 it's getting a little something more than just 12v - and the phone thinks it's the official car kit - because it doesn't happen when I just use the crappy adapter that came with the cheapo mounting kit.
Having said all that, I don't actually like navipanel cos it seems to disable the phone buttons - home key etc - presumably to stop you fiddling with the phone functions when you should be concentrating on the road - but that annoys the wife, who likes to control the music on long journeys...

Thanks
Thanks guys. ROM 1.66 is an HTC ROM right? NOT a custom?

scottmo said:
Thanks guys. ROM 1.66 is an HTC ROM right? NOT a custom?
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Yes mate. The UK one was released yesterday. (I don't know when the Scottish one will be release though lol)

Cheers
Okay, thanks. I'll track it down. I'll use the UK one till a proper version comes out LOL!

Id love to flash to ROM 1.66. Just is such a hassle getting the phone back to how i had it. Wish it was easier.

Hi,
Why does the HTC web site tell me the ROM update is not for my device?
S/N is correct.
Is there another way to get 1.66

robertsmith1873 said:
Hi,
Why does the HTC web site tell me the ROM update is not for my device?
S/N is correct.
Is there another way to get 1.66
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It means you have a carrier locked device, (example tmobile) so the standard HTC webpage wont let you download, you techincally need to wait for your provider to issue an update, ((buut dont hold your breath for tmo and o2,,,))). This has been covered a thousand times, go search for and read up on HSPL in the rom development section