I applied the cingular 8525 patch for DST.
Yes my time adjusted fine, but now all my alarms go off an hour early.
So my 11am alarm goes off at 10am even though it says 11am.
This happens in both Schema and informant.
I don't understand why, but if someone could help me solve this it would be great.
Because the update just tells the clock to subtract 1 hour less from UTC
three weeks earlier. (oops make that '1 hour more')
Most calendar programs record their entires for appointments etc. in raw UTC (ie. without the relative time zone adjustment). Remember DST is only time manipulation there isn't really a "lost hour".
Example: you created an appointment for 9 AM on 3/14/07 last week and you're in the central time zone UTC -6. The program then saves the appointment with a starting time of 15:00 UTC not knowing it has to add an additional hour until after April 1 to it's appointments because local time is now UTC -7. So 15:00 UTC rolls around and the alarm goes off. Only now the local time is now UTC -7 15-7= 8 AM
A lot of calendar programs have this problem until the begining of old DST. It could be worse- I have several clients that exclusively use the "all day function" (0:00 UTC -6 to 24:00 UTC -6) and now for three weeks everything lasts two days.
See if the vendor has an update. MS had one for outlook that was supposed to adjust dates in the WM calendar but I saw one report this morning that improperly patched or configured exchange servers are screwing it up (complicating matters: the time zone is not a gpo and if improperly set (to 'central america' rather than 'central time') the change doesn't happen).
I applied the fix that microsoft released before the DST came about to my users and all worked and tested all ok.
I have niced that a few of the users that have got lots of calendar entries i had to sync the device with the server after removing all data via active sync.
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So worst case since I have applied the fix,
New apointments I add and apointments next year should not have problems.
Just my old ones?
Similar happened to me but everything went an hour later and the time change never happened
MS Technet blog has some mealy mouthed explainations
The upshot: DST patching was not our finest hour and we're still endeavoring the issue.
What kills me is M$ had almost TWO FULL YEARS to fix this and it's clear they didn't build a comprehensive test environment. Nor did they bother to build a proper updating tool or mechanism. Even religiously applied updates didn't work.
Not to mention that unless MS provides a WM5 AKU with the change built in there are a lot of people running around with phones that will revert to old DST rules after every hard reset.
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I can not say when this problem started, what is happening say I have a appointment in my Outlook 2003 Calendar for 2pm today, once it is Synced with (Active-sync 4.5), The event will slow up on my MDA calendar for Tomorrow at some other time seems to be something like 14 hours later!
Yes all my clocks are set correctly my timezones are all set correctly as well. If I enable the Set Device time feature in active sync it sets the time to tomorrow sometime as well.
I have turned that off and have set the MDA to get the time from the GSM Network and that is fine.
I switched over from using a hp-6315 and did not have that problem.
My rom version is whatever this file name represents
RUU_TMobile_US_226102_22610105_022511_WWE_Ship.exe I am using it on the Rogers Network in Canada. Works well otherwise.
Any Ideas would be welcome.
I know you have touched on it but just to be sure can you confirm that you have checked the timezones on both your Wizard AND your PC.
Yes sir at time zones set to EST GMT -5 / or -4 dst
Now the real curious thing is last I looked my phone, were it says upcoming appointments and it had me having a meeting on Wed Feb 28 at 12:45am, it was in my outlook at Tuesday Feb 27th at 10:30am.
This morning I looked at the phone and it was now showing the correct meeting time! WTF! Now I look at the phone and it showing Feb 28 12:45 again.
and I have not synced with my Desktop since yesterday afternoon.
Crazy!
Do you perhaps have the visiting option checked in the time settings? Maybe a reset of the phone will clear up this time sync issue.
Nope visting option not enabled, and the time remains correct on the unit, its the caladar items seem to move around!
However Syncing Time from the sets the time and day wrong.
Ok Given the last comment from az99, I decided for a sanity check to check the clock settings for visiting time.
It was definitely set to HOME and the HOME timezone was correct GMT -5 the visiting Time zone was set to Paris GMT +1, I then selected visiting time zone and changed it to GMT -5.
Then changed back to the HOME timezone.....
All the calendar entries are correct again. This is odd because even if it was using the Paris timezone it would have been off by 6 hours.
See how long it will last.
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Ok Given the last comment from az99, I decided for a sanity check to check the clock settings for visiting time.
It was definitely set to HOME and the HOME timezone was correct GMT -5 the visiting Time zone was set to Paris GMT +1, I then selected visiting time zone and changed it to GMT -5.
Then changed back to the HOME timezone.....
All the calendar entries are correct again. This is odd because even if it was using the Paris timezone it would have been off by 6 hours.
See how long it will last.
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**** Edit**** i thought the fix worked, but my later appts were still off by an hour. hard reset and trying again.
Its possessed, yesterday I looked at my phone and it said my 10:30 appointment was 9:30am at least we are within the same day now.
Forgot my phone at home so I can not tell you what it says this morning...
same problem here with WM6 (Xplore 1.1) and AS 4.5b. Calendar items 1 hour back.
other WM6 rom was ok...
solution?
OK, I think the problem is with the GSM updating the time from the phone system. DE-select that. That is buggy, and depends on the tower you are near. If you are near a bunch it gets confusing for the phone.
After that, go to options in Activesync in your wizard and delete the connection to your PC. (Not while you are connected.) Delete your Wizard calendar. If you have memmaid delete your notifications. Soft - reset. On your PC, delete the mobile device. Then double check your PC and Wizard time and region settings. Then re connect and set up a new partnership. After it synch's, you should be all set.
Good luck,
'problem is with the GSM updating the time from the phone system. DE-select that. '
how do i change this? sounds like connection settings...
TIA
Sorry, I'm currently running a rom where that was left out. I thought it was in the phone settings but I'm not sure. Click through all the "settings" files and menus to see if you see it. Otherwise, maybe someone else has it handy?
Regards,
figured it out, for me i had 05 GMT bogota but whe ni went to -5 GNT Easter US it worked.
amazing!
still all -5 GMT so not sure if it's a WM6 bug?
Good afternoon all,
I've spent most of the afternoon trying to resolve the problem of entering an appointment on the PC at 2:00PM and having it show up on the Device at 1:00PM.
First, a little background.
My Device: A T-Mobile MDA
My Device OS: Faria v3.3, All up to date
My PC: Windows Vista, (I don't want to, I have to)
My Office: Office 2007
In my testing, I noticed that any appointment I enter in outlook prior to March 4, 2007 shows up correctly, On March 4th or beyond, They show up an hour earlier.
If I enter the appointment on the device, It would show up correctly in outlook.
I tried the MS DST Patch, Didn't do anything.
I tried the HTC DST Patch, Didn't do anything.
I tried changeing my time zone to Indiana, Didn't do anything
etc, etc, etc...
Finally, I disabled DST on the PC by going into Control Panel, Date and Time, and clearing the checkbox for "Automatically adjust clock for Daylight Saving Time" and everything worked normally.
I'm hoping that someone smarter than I can tell us why this is happening, or at least come up with a better solution.
My biggest question is Why March 4th? I could understand March 11th, but the 4th just has me baffeled!!!
Also, has anyone experienced this with WM6? (or did Microsoft get this one right...HA)
Either way, I figured I'd post this here to help the many who have helped me.
Good Night and Good Luck
X2K
didn't work for me, I guess I'll just enter everything in on the PPC
there's a fix for that problem on ms mobile site for download
I didn't know that tool worked with WM6 I'm trying it now.
Disabling the auto update does work, if you disable and then reenable calendar syncing after you change the setting in the WMDC
the MS timezone tool from windowsmobile.com, reports install as unsucessful
but the Xevious2K method is working for me, we'll see what happens at daylight saving time
Timezone Problem
I had this problem. I made sure to change the timezone on PC and on the PPC to somewhere else and back and it seems to have gone away....
Of course this is after manually arguing with the device trying to figure out why it happened.. lol...
You did install all 3 updates correct?? That would be the PC update, MS outlook update and then the PPC update....
I spent a good, (or bad), three hours trying everything. I patched office, windows and WM5 and even tried WM6. The only thing that worked was disableing Auto adjust DST on the PC.
I will post an update next week after DST starts and let you all know what happened.
It doesn't suprize me that microsoft can't get their own systems to talk to each other. Working with their products everyday, I am amazed at some of the stupid things they do. But, I have to look on the bright side of it...Without Microsoft's ability to write software like they do, I wouldn't own my own computer consulting business.
X2K
Hi all,
With my Mogul WM6 device, when I receive a meeting invite via email, WM6 Outlook will identify that as a meeting invite and allows me to open the email and click "Accept".
However, I noted that EVERY single invite I receive is always off by 1 hour. Example:
- meeting invite sent via Outlook 2003/2007 for appointment at 1:00 PM
- email invite received in Mogul as an email and when opened, appointment time is for 12:00 PM
- When I opened the same email invite in my Outlook 2003/2007 or GMail, the appointment time is correct (1:00 PM).
So the issue seems to apply to the Mogul only. I checked the following:
- timezone is correct
- Time Synchronization is NOT checked
Does anyone know how to fix this?
Login to Outlook Web Access and see what time zone you're account is set to.
Both Exchange (from Outlook) and Outlook Web Access (OWA) are set to the correct timezone (PST).
maybe?
This is just a thought ... could it be you need the Daylight Savings Time update? Maybe it got lost along the way or something ...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/daylightsaving/default.mspx
I'm wrong a lot, so this may not help at all.
there is also a Feb 2008 cab I have on my phone for DST update for leapyear. I could e-mail it to you if you want.
meatgel said:
there is also a Feb 2008 cab I have on my phone for DST update for leapyear. I could e-mail it to you if you want.
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I installed the 2007 DST update, but I don't see it in the device Add/Remove program.
I PM'ed you for the 2008 DST update.
sent! hope it helps.
I applied the 2008 DST update and still no go. But I found something else:
I had my friend sending a meeting invite from his Outlook and lo and behold, the hour was NOT off by 1 hour. So it looks like my laptop / Outlook configuration is messed up.
However, I checked the Timezone on the following and they are all correct:
- Outlook 2003
- Windows
- Outlook Web Access
I wonder what else I need to check?
I've recently discovered the exact same problem on my Mogul. I've done some research and tried all the recommended updates, ect. but have had no luck in resolving the issue.
Any other recommendations beyond checking the time zones on both the Mogul and the PC, installing the DST update on the Mogul, switching back and forth between time zones on the Mogul?
Nothing seems to have worked so far.
same here on my ATT 8525 WM6.1
This is crazy. I dealt with the exact same issue last March with my Wm5 8125.
I can't believe that I'm having to go through this again with Microsoft. I'm sorry, but this is just a silly thing not to have fixed by now.
I was able to get around it a little by switching my time zone from plain Eastern - 5 over to Eastern (Indiana) -5.
I think they don't quite subscribe to the new DST dates so it's a temp patch until the rest of the country catches up on the normal date then I can probably switch it back. (Reminds me of The Langoliers - ever see that movie? )
On my HD calendar Good Friday is shown as the Thursday before, Easter on the Saturday and Easter Monday on Sunday. Also a few other national holiday are a day earlier. Christmas and New Year are OK. I syncronize it with Outlook 2002 on my PC and the dates there are correct.
Any ideas how to fix it?
Solution
After a few hours of fiddling around I did get it to work. I am not sure what exactly did it but here what I did: first I downloaded the latest DST patches from Microsoft for both the HD and Outlook 2002. At this point after syncronizing still the dates were right on the pc and one day early on the HD. Then I clicked off the "adjust for dst" on the pc which now caused Outlook to display the holiday on the right date AND one day early! At this point I deleted all the Holidays and the readded them with the dst off and synced. IT NOW DISPLAYED DATE CORRECTED. I am not sure if it would have worked without the patches but I am not touching anything any more!
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After a few hours of fiddling around I did get it to work. I am not sure what exactly did it but here what I did: first I downloaded the latest DST patches from Microsoft for both the HD and Outlook 2002. At this point after syncronizing still the dates were right on the pc and one day early on the HD. Then I clicked off the "adjust for dst" on the pc which now caused Outlook to display the holiday on the right date AND one day early! At this point I deleted all the Holidays and the readded them with the dst off and synced. IT NOW DISPLAYED DATE CORRECTED. I am not sure if it would have worked without the patches but I am not touching anything any more!
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I have a simular (?) problem:
On my calendar at work I have added a repeating appointment till 31-12-2009, every Tuesday, 10:00 o’clock.
I sync my HD with this exchange server.
Now, on my HD it starts ok, but per 31-3 it’s suddenly scheduled at 9:00. At 27-10 it shifts back to 10:00 …
Somehow DST seems to throw in an offset of an hour.
What can I say? I hope the people I have those appointments with, do have a HTC Touch HD (or windows mobile) as well
See other thread
Hi - anyone having this issue or can you replicate it?
I've just installed the calendar fix (saying that, I don't know if this issue existed before the fix) and now, any new appointments I create all save in December 2010, irrespective of the month
Eg January 12 recurring every Jan 12 appears in December 12 2010...and again in 2011 but actually appears on January 12 in 2013!
Hi. Yeah, it's a known issue even without installing the calendar fix. The only way to "solve" it for the moment is to create an appointment and set it as NOT recurring. Then open and edit the appointment and set hoe many times it'll repeat. All as described in this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594697
Give a try
As a temporary solution, you can use native Windows Calendar to add appointments. They will be displayed in HTC Calendar respectively to the date set.