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WiFi and GPRS frustration

I have a belkin router. It works well with several laptops.
I can connect to it with my JASJAR and get an IP address.
If I sync pop3 email it uses WIFI and works as expected.
If I sync journal bar it uses WIFI and works as expected.
However if I try to use internet explorer it alway tries to start a GPRS session and refuses to work through WIFI. :evil: Why??
Ive sent hours trying every setting I can find.
Anyone have any suggestions? :?:
Jon

At least your Wifi network doesn't crash as soon as u connect the JJ. Mine doesn't even get that far...
Anyone who can help???

Hmmm I wonder if this is something in the Telstra settings Cab.
Re those having problems all on Telstra?
Might try a hard re set and then manually build the settings.
Jon

Try de activating the phone. this allows you to use IE via your wireless router.

Tried that, thanks.
I just get the "Cannot Connect" message and if I dismiss it. Nothing!
However I can sync the weather without getting the "Cannot Connect" box. SO the WiFi is working, its just that Explorer can see it.

Im running the O2 UK firmware and it works fine (auto gives prefernce to the WiFi if I am in range, try loading on the genuine Imate firmware.

Jon
I know how you feel. I can't get wifi to work. Heck, I can't even use IE when synced to the computer via USB :evil:

Have you tried messing with the settings in start/settings/connections/connections?

I finally got it working.
You have to chose the "Telstra Internet" setting in Network Managment.
Its in Settings, Connections, Advanced, Select Networks, select "Telstra Internet".
I then did, Settings, Connections, Manage existing connections, Modem, and set it to "Auto"
It uses the WiFi first and then only uses GPRS if there is no WiFi.
Hope this helps someone else !
Jon

Can anyone help me with just getting my JJ connected to the wifi network without crashing the router?

Have you tried turning off any encryption etc and re booting the router.
Then try to connect at the most basic level?

Now I'm totally confused
I don't know what is going on!
I have finally managed to use IE via Activesync, using "Telstra Internet" as my My network connects to...
I tried again to hook up to the wifi network. The router is connected to my desktop via a physical cable, and my tablet pC is connected wirelessly (my JJ syncs with the tablet). I turned to tablet off, and then connected the JJ to the desktop wirelessly. On the desktop, I am no longer able to connect to the internet, but for some reason, the JJ is able to connect to the internet :shock:
But, even if I disconnect the JJ from the network, my desktop is unable to connect back to the internet until I reboot the router. What does this all mean????

I have the same issue with my MDA Pro! i done even have the sutp option in the modem settings. I can connect to my belkin router with encryption but no response when in IE!
Anyone else got any other suggestions?

I'm beginning to think that nobody has a solution to such connection problems. Is there any hope on the horizon? Any chance of something being sorted out by MS?
BTW, how well does BT syncing/internet connection work?

Ok frustration rising.
I can connect to my Belkin wireless router with no problems but I can only log onto the router and not browse the internet!
I have checked that the proxy is not configured.
Anyone got any ideas?

Nope

Please Help: Activesync again and wireless connection

I have my laptop connected to a router with a Linksys wireless connection. I use Ipass VPN to get through to my work e-mail.
When I install Activesync4.1 it stops me getting access in Ipass. I have tried all options I can find in this forum but with no luck.
Activesync itself works fine when installed.
I have checked with somebody else at work who uses AS with a wired connection and it works. This isn't an option for me.

Try to change your network binding setting, move your Wireless Connect to the top
you can do this by Control Panel > Network Connections > Advance(from the file menu bar) > Advanced Setting.
Hope this helps

I actually have a very similar issue with my MDA. Basically my laptop's onboard Wireless B/G cannot connect to the router when the MDA is connected. I tried your suggestion and now the MDA won't connect. Seems like it's one or the other

Has anyone found a solution to this issue? This is the only issue that I have with my device. Whenever I connect it, I lose my wireless internet on my laptop. If I'm on a wired network at the office, I lose internet access but can still access the intranet. Any advice would be appreciated.

This has nothing to do with wireless. Its the ActiveSync 4.x network install that is not done properly if you have a vpn client running
I had this too
Solution:
Once connected via activesync open network connections
There is a new network connection there then for the WM5 device
Open properties ans de-select all listed items except TCP/IP.
Worked for me

Thanks for the response. I had found your suggestion previously on another board and tried it without success. I'm suspicious that the issue may be the Dell networking control software on my laptop getting confused. As soon as I connect my device, my wireless automatically turned off like it's found another network. I was hoping someone else who's had this problem has been able to solve it. I'd appreciate any other suggestions.

Thielsa same with me. unchecking all boxes didn't work and I'm using an IBM laptop.
Did find something on a microsoft newsgroup and it seems to be a known problem that hasn't been fixed yet.
Not having activesync is the only downer for my wizard though quite a big one doing system restores all the time

not done any testing on this but I use 4.1 and vpn in via wirless.
Try establishing your vpn connection first and then launch outlook. Then connect the device to the pc (via cable).
From memory it seems to be the outlook bit that gets around the problem for me.

I've pretty much narrowed things down to the wireless connection control on my dell laptop. I've been able to get things to work fine now on my wired connection. I looked at the log from my wireless controller, and when I attach the Pocketpc device it reads a wired connection and turns off the wireless. I think that this is specific to laptops (dell only?) that have automatic wireless controllers. Hopefully someone will find a solution to this as it's the only 'bug' I have left on my device.

Bluetooth Modem + Universal Help

Hey everyone,
Okay I'm going to try and explain what I am trying to do here, but I'm sure I'll miss some steps. I think I know what the problem is, but I still can't figure out a way to resolve it.
I have a Sony Ericsson Z710I mobile phone. I also have an i-mate Jasjar running AKU 3.2 (JW's Rom). Here is what I am attempting to achieve.
I want to use the Z710I as my telephone. I have bluetooth turned on and have connected the Jasjar to it. On the Z710I I have enabled the "bluetooth internet" option and set it to connect to the proper APN. On the Jasjar I have created a new network connection that uses Bluetooth modem, and have put in the APN as *99#.
So when I connect the Jasjar to the internet, it dials the bluetooth on the Z710. It recongnises the *99# command and connects to the proper APN and connection. This is the point in where it just doesn't want to hitch up. The phone has full access to the internet, however ... the Jasjar is just grabbing data traffic and I'm not sure why. It reports connected and is communicating to my knowlege.
When I disconnect the Z710 from the internet, the Jasjar immediatley reports that the modem has disconnected. That why I figure there is communication.
I have tried (on the Jasjar) to edit the network card settings for the bluetooth adapter to 'obtain IP automatically' but it made no difference.
Does anyone have any ideas ( or questions for me to help clairify?)
Thanks
Nathan

What kind of communication did you try? Internet Epxlorer? Opera? Messaging?
For example, IE, which is based on the Connectivity Framework, has a lot of problems that may render a connection non-working - I've written several articles on this stuff. A solution is trying with,say, OpMob / Messaging to be absolutely sure it's not just an IE-related problem.

Menneisyys said:
What kind of communication did you try? Internet Epxlorer? Opera? Messaging?
For example, IE, which is based on the Connectivity Framework, has a lot of problems that may render a connection non-working - I've written several articles on this stuff. A solution is trying with,say, OpMob / Messaging to be absolutely sure it's not just an IE-related problem.
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I tried using activesync as well as IE, google maps and other internet based connections.
I just tried it right now, dialed the connection and tried to activesync. The z710i connected at the Jasjar's request and the Jasjar said connected. It then just sat there "synchronizing folders"
There are two APNs available through my phone. One is for WAP traffic, the other for Internet bound traffic. My phone is connecting properly or it at least setup properly to route traffic over bluetooth to the internet one.
I did hook up the phone through a bluetooth adapter on my computer and used it as a wireless modem it did work there. I wonder if the problem is the Microsoft BT Stack (it doesn't have a PAN profile).
Do we have a way to uninstall the MS BT Stack and install the WIdcomm one which would support PAN?
Just a thought.
Thanks
Nathan

lirathal said:
Do we have a way to uninstall the MS BT Stack and install the WIdcomm one which would support PAN?
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Are you sure the z710i would support PAN server? I don't think so.
If it does, then, check out the Hermes / Wizard Widocmm BT stack hacking-related threads; hope the stack can also be hacked onto the Universal too.
(Unfortunately, AKU3 with its new BT approach (see my related articles if interested) won't work because it only supports BT PAN server mode for dial-up purposes, not client mode.)

Menneisyys said:
Are you sure the z710i would support PAN server? I don't think so.
If it does, then, check out the Hermes / Wizard Widocmm BT stack hacking-related threads; hope the stack can also be hacked onto the Universal too.
(Unfortunately, AKU3 with its new BT approach (see my related articles if interested) won't work because it only supports BT PAN server mode for dial-up purposes, not client mode.)
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I'm not sure how to check if it supports Bluetooth PAN server. I know that the Z710I can be used as a Bluetooth Modem (as I said previous, I hooked it up to my computer and used it as a internet connection - but when I did that I had to enable PAN client support on the PC [i think]) .. So is this where we are inherantly are having the problem? The Jasjar doesn't support PAN Client therefore, when it connects it doesn't know what to do with the connection?

I have figured it out.
I connected my Z710I to my laptop and I examined the "dial-up" connection and the syntax for the connection number was *99***2#
I changed the connection on my Jasjar, connected and everything is wicked. Now I can still sync my Jasjar while using a regular phone for a while.
Talk about a Personal Area Network .
Thanks for all the help.

Surf the net with bluetooth and home connection

Hi all,
I've seen a lot of threads specifying how one would go about using the bluetooth to share the phone's internet connection. However, I would like to do the opposite, that is, share the PC's internet connection via bluetooth so that I can surf the net on my phone (I do not have wifi). Any help would be most appreciated.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274581&highlight=bluetooth+modem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313886&highlight=bluetooth+modem
many more hits of you use search and search "bluetooth AND modem"

thanks for the reply, but i already know how to do this. Perhaps you didn't understand my question; I do not want to use my XDA as a bluetooth modem. I would like to use my home ADSL connection via bluetooth to access the internet through my phone. This feature was there by default in my SE P910i, and I'm sure it should be possible to do this via my XDA as well. Once again, I do NOT want to use my XDA as a bluetooth modem

when connected to activesync pda's have the same network access as the pc they are connected to unless one have disabled it
so synch with bluetooth to your pc and you got it's internet

Check this page. Hope it helps you
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=449

I'm successfully running such a setup, using Linux (w/ bluez stack) on the Internet Gateway. However, I had only luck with the Widcomm stack on the Windows Mobile, w/ the MS stack, I could not manage to find any way to use DUN or NAP. With Widcomm, you can configure access via a "Bluetooth Access Point", which will use DUN services on the Host (Gateway) computer. On Linux, this means setting up dund (comes with bluez) and configuring a PPP profile for it.

Any idea if Widcomm BT stack is available for installing it on WM5. I think mine is with MS by default and couldnt find an option to configure it.

I think it isn't offered for free to the public. Nevertheless, there seem to be a few CABs with the broadcom/widcomm stack out there in the WWW. Google might lead you the way...

Thanks a lot for the feedback guys.

I have succesully used DUN with both my original iMate Jamin ROM and PDAViet 4.0.0.0.6 ROM to access the internet via a linux box running Bluez and dund.
I was hoping the new PAN profile in wm6 would allow me to simplify and setup a standard wm6 PANU -> linux NAP. However it looks like wm6 only supports running as a NAP and wont allow you to do that unless your connected to the internet via GRPS etc.
Is it possible to either add support for PANU in wm6 or activate the NAP without an active connection?

Unable to share cell net w/ PC via bluetooth

I've tried most of the solutions/methods on this forum/net, but it just doesn't work!
I'm able to pair the device, start the PAN service and 'Intetnet Sharing' gets connected as well, PC gets an IP address, but I get no response when I ping or open a webpage.
On the phone end, I've tried with WM5, WM6, WM6.1 and even with WMWi iRouter. On the PC end, tried with 3 different XP/2003/Vista machines. I'm using BlueSoleil 6.2, but had no success with older or later versions either.
Internet Sharing over USB worked fine till my USB connector broke so BlueTooth/WiFi is my only option.
Can soneone help me out please?

if you want to teeth your gprs connection so your pc get internet that way
PAN is not the way to go
search for bluetooth AND modem
in the forums there are many guides how
it's setup
PAN is if you want your pda to get internet from your pc

Thanks for the reply. I tried Bluetooth DUN but it's too slow (115kbps) and keeps getting disconnected every 5 mins...
If Bluetooth PAN is for sharing PC net only, why then does it show up under 'Internet Sharing', and also shows the Cellular net option, as if it can connect the both, like it does for USB? If PAN isn't meant for sharing cell net, it shouldn't show the option, right?
I mean, it's not *impossible* right? We have a TCP/IP network established with all IPs properly assigned; only one device has net access; how hard or improbable can it be to share the net? There has to be a way! :|
Infact, even the inbuilt Help on Internet Sharing describes that cell net can be shared w/ the PC over bluetooth using 'Internet Sharing' and says nothing about connecting as a modem and the whole *99# thing. I was of the opinion that 'Internet Sharing' made that method obsolete...

- Disconnect everything
- Open internet sharing, select Bluetooth PAN, connect. IS should tell you "waiting for bluetooth connection".
- On the PC, connect to the PAN service on the phone. This must work, I've used it countless times.
If traffic doesn't go through, you probably have a proxy set on your device (happens with some network operators) that you need to disable for it to work.

^ That's exactly how I've been trying .. maybe it's because of BlueSoleil?
Which bluetooth stack are you using? I've been searching the local stores for a non-bluesoleil adapter but no luck so far

I'm using the Widcomm stack that came with my BT keyboard/mouse set. I think you can download it for free anyway...

kilrah said:
- Disconnect everything
- Open internet sharing, select Bluetooth PAN, connect. IS should tell you "waiting for bluetooth connection".
- On the PC, connect to the PAN service on the phone. This must work, I've used it countless times.
If traffic doesn't go through, you probably have a proxy set on your device (happens with some network operators) that you need to disable for it to work.
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Hi Kilrah, could u provide some details about how to disable proxy on the device .
I can connect but no internet traffic on my laptop .I am using vodafone live gprs on xda orbit .Thanks