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Dunno what is going on here - I had this problem occasionally with E200 / C500 on Orange, but not to this extent.
Sat at my desk, I suddenly get a Voicemail notification. Strange, as the phone hasn't rung. So I decide to test it.
I get NO ringtone on the phone I'm calling from. Nothing at all. Then it cuts straight to VM. (Phone is sat with full signal, and connected to UMTS network). I phoned 5 times, all with the same result.
Then I hung up the UMTS. Same thing happened.
I did a soft reset and left it in clamshell mode, and phoned again. This time I could clearly hear the ringing on the phone I was calling from, but the device didn't ring / vibrate or anything.
I opened it up and had a message "The phone operation failed" so I hit OK on this and closed it back up again. Phoned it again and this time it rang properly. I hung up before connecting, and got the "Missed call" notification.
Its not (entirely) down to being connected to UMTS - as my phone reconnects automatically as soon as it starts up.
Anyway, having dismissed the "You have a missed call" notification, I tried again. Its back to its original state now, no ringing heard on the phone you call from, and nothing on the phone itself. I only got ONE missed call notification, despite calling it around 7 or 8 times in all.
What the hell is going on here? It almost seems like the phone itself signals to the network that it is totally unreachable (hence no ringing heard by the caller).
I assume you haven't set up diverts or anything?
Get your network provider to do a test and see if they can give you any further information.
Failing that, it's possible that if you stopped the ExtROM from fully installing, it could be causing problems? Or maybe even some sort of task manager may be 'killing' the phone services?
I hadn't set any diverts, and it was the oddly random nature that was cause for concern - it worked after the soft reset, but didn't work beforehand. I can't be doing with a phone that, for its own reasons, refuses to aknowledge an inbound call! This should take precedence over anything else the "phone" is doing at the time, surely...
I've got T Mobile to send me out a reset of my profile (a text message which I delete, then power off the device) and I'll see how it goes.
I did have SBP PocketPlus installed, but no longer... I've not got much installed at all, at the moment.
Strongly considering flashing to the iMate ROM at this moment!
After removing the battery I retested. It was fine.
After writing the last post, I retested again and its broken again.
B*llocks.
The same as you my XDA Exec, oftern misses calls, ( you ring your self and hear it reing bu the phone makes no noise) i also had the same on my XDA2i, and yes removing the battery fixes it for a while.
Also mine when it looses service ( witch is oftern ) it will not go back into service until i soft reset it
John
Hmm, sorry no clue.
I have a JasJar and no-one has told me off for missing their calls. (I take quite a few from work, but rarely make any myself)
Maybe try a ROM flash, but I'm sure other Exec users are not having these problems, so it sounds like it might be something other than a ROM issue?
I've just stuck the iMate Rom on it. Was probably going to do it anyway, but didn't want to break my TomTom setup...
I'll do some testing and will repost on this thread with my findings.
I'm still getting the problem with the iMate ROm installed.
When I go to the Phone settings, it thinks I'm on the UMTS T-Mobile UK network. Now I'm sure this is fine for data, but maybe its not OK for voice, or something like that?
Can anyone let me know what they have in those settings?
Spotted this too on the Jasjar - can't pin down why though as it only appeqars to have started recently
Stu
I'm becoming certain that my data connection is effectively hogging the phone and not allowing voice traffic. I just had problems sending a text message. Every time I hit send, it failed (about 6 times) and went into drafts. To get it to sent, I hung up my active data connection and tried again, and it went immediately.
This is a nightmare, as the device HAS to perform both voice and data functions. I want an always-on data device, but the data MUST be interuptable by inbound / outbound phonecalls as well as notifications (SMS etc).
Right...
I've dropped down to GSM instead of 3G by removing the "Auto" setting from the Band option within the Phone Settings. This appears to have solved the problem.
From looking at the network, it appeared my phone was always connecting to a network called "UMTS T Mobile" (this was even displayed on the occasional incoming call that worked as the carrier). I'm certain this is what is causing the problems. After a Soft Reset, it would still connect to this, as my OTA ActiveSync connection would start up...
Having changed to GSM instead, I'm now connecting to "T Mobile UK" as my carrier - and this is allowing full inbound/outbound functionality - albeit only with GPRS data connectivity.
I'm on T-Mobile UK, and MSN Messenger will happily be interrupted when I get a voice call?
I'm lucky enough to live and work in an area where I'm only ever connected to UMTS (although the setting on my phone is "Auto"). I'm 99% certain that I can get calls every time, and having tested it just now a couple of times it's working without any problems, so there must be something that'll sort out your problem?
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I'm on T-Mobile UK, and MSN Messenger will happily be interrupted when I get a voice call?
I'm lucky enough to live and work in an area where I'm only ever connected to UMTS (although the setting on my phone is "Auto"). I'm 99% certain that I can get calls every time, and having tested it just now a couple of times it's working without any problems, so there must be something that'll sort out your problem?
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I'm lucky enough to live and work in an area immediately covered by whatever equipment may (or may not) be located a T Mobile's head office... :roll:
I cannot discount the possibility that they've erected a UMTS cell which they "tinker with", which may (or, indeed, may not) be causing my problems...
I guess next time I'm out of the area, and in a 3G coverage area elsewhere, I will revert and test it.
In the meantime, they've asked me to test by switching back to "Auto" and trying to phone my phone once in a while, taking note of when I call and whether I get through, and they'll endeavour to trace those calls and find out what is going on...
I hope you'll be sending them an invoice!?!
I have this problem now. I only noticed it after a ROM upgrade (to the latest TMUK ROM). What fixed your problem in the end?
Hi All
I have had a very similar problem and have been discussing it in a separate thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=62863
As you will see, it seems to me that it is a T-Mobile issue, but they don't acknowledge that it is a fault. I don't get the same problem when I put an O2 sim in my Exec.
Other than downgrading to GPRS, I don't think there is any fix.
Mark
Mark, I've had a thought. Do you (like me) have an old 5v T-Mobile SIM.
These SIM’s can be identified either by SIM serial number 893044 05 or 16 – up to and including 893044 50. SIMs with serial numbers 893044 52 and above will be ok- anything lower is likely to be a 5v.
There was an issue when I 1st got my MDA Pro. It had to be network unlocked by T-Mobile for it to work with my SIM. Is it possible that the ROM update as "re-awakend" this problem?
(Also posted in thread you link to)
Thanks for the idea, Slave1, but I don't think that is the cause of the problem. My SIM doesn't have a serial number anything like those you suggested (it starts 060080...) and I only got it a couple of months old and so I am sure that it is a 3G one.
However, now that you mention it, I did have a problem getting the SIM to work when I first got it. I had to get on to Customer Services to get them to register it on the network becuase, they said, the shop hadn't registered it correctly!
Mark
mburgin said:
and I only got it a couple of months old and so I am sure that it is a 3G one.
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All SIMs are usable with 3G (it's the handset that make the difference)
mburgin said:
I did have a problem getting the SIM to work when I first got it. I had to get on to Customer Services to get them to register it on the network becuase, they said, the shop hadn't registered it correctly!
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That's a different issue but just as frustrating.
I had another though. Is anyone using a T-Mobile SIM in an XDA Exec (or just using an O2 ROM) having the same problem?
Could it be a ROM issue?
I sometimes get on my exec the following message when I'm hyst trying to make a REGULAR NORMAL ORDINARY phone call to any of my contacts:
"Cannot complete the call. The signal may be unavailable or the phone number may not be valid. Verify the number and try again later."
This bull**** also happened to me before ocassionaly on my old i-mate PDA2K. Driving me nuts, can't make a phone call till a soft reset is made. Making the phone flight mode on/off doesn't fix it.
WTF is wrong? Why does the machine gets confused. Today I had to make an urgent phone call and this **** happened and I lost some business. This machine is simply not as reliable as a phone.
same thing here....Imate sucks.
Ya, I'm getting the same thing here too. I miss calls and have to frequently press redial, as to redial the same number, since it incomprehensibly couldn't dial it. I've got the latest update.
Unfortunately for me, my unit is an Imate and their support "services" SUCK big time.
Paid $1000.00 dollars for this unit and get even get $2.00 service.
IMATE Sucks!
hmm
has similar problems..
using vodafone i noticed it was trying to connect to 3G et.. so i changed Band settings..
select network type to GSM instead of Auto.. i now see a nice G instead of a U next to my vodoafone connection signal thingy..
and all seems to work great again!!
let me know if that solved your problem :lol:
not so sure whether it's relevant or not, but since I removed all "hooking" applications like Smart Filter, ReDial, and calls time monitors ... etc and this issue didn't happen except once during a full month ...
I think those applications suppliers have to do more than just re-compliling their S/W to claim it's WM5 compatible!
I'm sure I've read about this problem in the past but I can't figure out whether there is a way around it. My model is an MDA Vario II in the UK. Is there any way to avoid missing calls when the phone is connected to the internet?
It's great having a phone with internet access, but not so great that it doesn't seem capable of functioning as a phone at the same time!
thanks
Can anyone help with this please?
thanks.
Am I really the only person with this problem, or am I just being really dumb with my forum searches?
thanks
I think there is a difference between GPRS and UMTS. When a GPRS connection is active (at least, when data is sent or received) you are not able to receive calls. When UMTS is active, calls should get through. The standard way should be that the device detects an incoming call, shuts down the GPRS connection and restarts it after the call is ended. With UMTS, the device can receive and send data and answer the call at the same time. I have actually never had any problems with unanswered calls while browsing, but I use UMTS all the time (or perhaps no-one is calling me while browsing).
I have no idea what fault in your phone could cause your problem. Try searching with better keywords perhaps in the future, I found several threads relating to this problem by using the words "data connection missed calls". Use the same words for a search and I am sure you'll find lots of threads about this.
This will always happen with any handset. if you are sat there reading a page and not loading any data then the call will interupt the GPRS connection then reconnect once the call has finished. If you are sending or receiving data then the person will get a busy tone. Sorry this is just how all the UK networks work.
Hi,
I have a t-mob wing (after I drove over my magician and I have the following problem: When I am having an active data connection I cannot receive any voice calls. The calls are going directly to voice mail, without notifying me. Once I stop the data connection I can receive calls again and than I will see that I missed a call.
I talked to t-mob support, and after doing a hard-reset (of course) they told me that this is a known problem with the wing, that they are trying to fix it and that there is nothing they can do right now.
1. do other wing users in the US experience the same, so is it the default behavior, or am I just unlucky? (it worked great without a problem with my magician btw)
2. as sometimes during the day the internet connection automatically gets connected (activesync I guess) I never really now if I am able to receive calls right now. Is there a workaround to manually start up and stop the internet connection without the device automatically connecting whenever it feels like it?
thanks in advance
wolferl
interesting ...
I have had a lot of complaints from people telling me that when they call me, it goes straight to voicemail.
I'm also a US Wing user, and I can confirm that is happening to me as well. Was checking sports scores on my break at work earlier, and my girlfriend called me, and I got a voice message from her...but it never showed that she called.
I also have the issue with people in my fave 5 not showing in the call history anyway, so I guess I lose both ways.
hm,
ok, seems to be a generic problem. Is here anyone who successfully gets voice calls while on a data connection with a wing/herald/p4350?
would be interesting to see if it is a t-mobile or device problem.
thanks
I got a HTC wing and i still get incoming call while browsing the internet. No problem here. i've tested a couple times and they all went through. I have T mobile
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I got a HTC wing and i still get incoming call while browsing the internet. No problem here. i've tested a couple times and they all went through.
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hi hondaman,
thanks for the info. whats your provider?
thanks wolferl
"active" data connection is the key
I have the same problem, no voice calls with an active data connection. For me, it seems to be only when the data is actively transferring, like streaming audio or a largish download. Straightforward web surfing doesn't seem to cause the problem, I've received multiple calls while surfing. But during streaming audio, calls go to voice mail every time.
I swear to you, I get calls when I am using data all the time on my Wing. I have the stock T-Mo rom and everything. No CID unlocking, no SIM unlocking.
It happens to me alot that people complain they have called me and it goes straight to voicemail... and its been in cases where im not even using my phone, and as far as I know, I have good signal.
I was running this GB soft program that kept my data connections always on... so I stopped using that to see if I notice a difference.
On the T-Mobile MDA it worked just fine, but on my Wing I can't receive calls while online either.
I just did some testing and I need to correct my original statement. Looks like kerrkj and the others were right. Just being online does not stop you from receiving calls. Just when you are transferring data, the line being actively used, you are not reachable. So, when you are web browsing, it depends whether the moment the call comes in, data is transmitted or not. I was testing accessing different web pages and a couple of times it worked and a couple of times it did not. When streaming audio the calls went to VM 100% of the time.
So, when I am using tomtom and having the traffic check activated, it will be pure coincidence whether you receive a call or not. When streaming audio it will be guaranteed that you are not receiving calls.
I am pretty sure that it was not like that with my magician. Hopefully t-mobile sorts it out sooner than later.
thanks for all your feedback
wolferl
it happens to me too, i know on sprint with the treo's you can run internet or phone, all calls will go to voicemail if you are on the internet. i just assumed it was that way with all of them.
I've been searching and searching to see if there was a post about this already and haven't seen one. With every phone I had before my G1 I was able to send SMS messages during a phone call. Currently my G1 is not able to do so. Does anyone else have this problem? Has it been resolved? or Am I expecting too much from my G1? I have been on the phone with T-Mobile for 6 months now trying to figure it out and "engineering" has yet to come up with a solution. Any suggestions?
I think it might depend what type of service youre connected to....
I can send sms fine when I'm on the phone and connected to 3g. I'm using 5.0.2h build.
When you say "type of service" do you mean the fact that I have T-Mobile?
Sorry I meant whether or not youre on 3G, 2G, or just plain ol G.
Do you take notice?
Well I checked in the Phone Info and I noticed that once I get on a phone call my GPRS service goes from connected to suspended and sometimes disconnected. I am not sure why this happens. I also noticed that when this happens I will get the persons text message continually. My phone worked fine when I first got it. I also just rooted and installed the 1.5rev3. Still the same thing. Any ideas?
Did you ever install any of the radio updates through your rooting process
You said you're using r3 of ADP1.5.
You need to flash this radio update:
http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/files/ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip
Let me know if you already have....
Yes I actually did that radio update a few hours before you posted this. I am in the process of testing it. So far out of 6 tries I have only one successful attempt of being able to text while on the phone. I am going to run the update you listed and retest the phone just incase something went wrong during the installation.
Cool, lemme know how it goes.
Okay so here is the update. The phone is still doing the same thing. I say 50% of calls my GPRS Services goes from Connected to Suspended during a call.
Is this good? I know it should always be Connected.