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ok well if you have tried SKYpe IM+ from shape services, you know that it connects to skype via data, it routes the call via data, then sends an incoming call and an outgoing call to the server. So you get an incoming call, then the server sends an outgoing call to the # specified.. This way if you have unlimited incoming minutes (works great) and you get full voice quality of a normal call without using any minutes... How could i use this system, but not use the Skype IM+ crappy interface. Like make a dialer skin, and set it to a hotkey so when i dial out via that dialer it does the skype style... ??? anyone? ( i dont mind actualyl getting the SKype IM+ program, or getting the normal skype program?? but any idea.??
Voice over IP?
yeah similar, but i knw that Shape Services does this, and you get your call via normal cell towers w/ incoming calls (unlimted on my plan.) It routes the call via skype voip but the call actually comes in via incoming minutes (unlimited for me), and then the voip serv dials the other line. This way i get full voice quality not the echoing or garbled talk of voip... Unless that is about to change. I use skype and that is the best price for your penny.. anyway thoughts?
Actually has anybody done the math to see if it is worth using im+ for skype?
1) You need to pay for data service to access skype
2) You need skype out credit to make the call
3) You loses air time when im+ calls back
I wonder if it is cheaper to just get a long distance plan and call direct.
i have unlimited data and unlimited incoming plan... So i get full voice quality.. ( i also have skype pro for $2 a month which i only call to North America Anyway... So i actually dont use any minutes, and i get unlimited calls.
Google's GrandCentral operates in a similar way, however, it is not client based.
http://www.grandcentral.com/
that seems interesting... Or if anyone has a skype client that works on the touch (.18 beta is unusable)
Tried Fring?
yeah, its complete garbage
Skype just released Skype for Windows Mobile 2.5. and the audio works again with the titan/mogul in WM6.1. thought i think it still uses the speakerphone output...but its something!
So how does skype work exactly? I cant google it here from work its blocked, in a nut shell, howmuch, how is it, quality wise and etc?
It's (partially at least) a VOIP application that lets you make voice (and the PC, video) calls over the internet... but also allows you to dial out to regular land-line and cel numbers, not just other Skype users.
This development is really exciting for those of us with really good data plans (unlimited for $15/mo in my case ) because it means I can use Skype to make LD calls without having to burn up airtime or LD minutes, just the (very cheap) Skype minutes.
Yeah I was so happy Skype is finally working again.
How is the quality for international calls?
The quality is more better then ever.
cool, last week i tried to get skype to work but no go ill try and download the new version.
Hello guys! I have been trying to make internet calls with my new HTC HD2, and so far I have not managed to make it work properly.
Actually after testing PortSip I almost got it, but the problem I have with this software is that my voice is not being heard at all/clear enough. I can hear the person I'm calling very well, without delays, but they can not hear me. I tried using BT headset, normal headset, and without headsets for the same result, not being heard.
Could it be that the microphone is set too low? is there any way to increase it?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thnx.
I use PortSip without any such problem....
Try fring as an alternate solution...may work for you...
Are you connecting to your own VOIP server? If so, make sure that the correct ports are open.
I had the same problem with portsip. I find Agephone to work nicely, only problem with it not being able to direct sound to the earpiece so you will need some software that does that instead.
After a lot of testing, I'm still in the same situation. I'd be great to make voip calls to work. I am certain there's some settings in windows mobile (codecs maybe) that my voip provider don't like, and therefore calls drop.
My voip provider is Saunalahti (Finland) which actually rents the gsm network from Elisa.
I am trying making calls from two different voip accounts, calling other voip numbers and normal gsm numbers. I am using one HD2, one TYTN and a Softphone that Saunalahti offers.
The only way that the calls work is calling from the softphone in the PC, no problem there. I have audio both ways and calls do not drop.
If I call from:
wm to PC, call drops (lasts 2 sec)
wm to wm, call drops (lasts 2 sec)
wm to gsm, connects but the other person can not hear me
One wm is using 3G and the other is using WIFI. port 5060 is open in the registry.
Like a said earlier, I have tried different programs, but it's the same scenario.
Any idea on what the problem actually is? thnx i nadcance.
Hi guys,
I am interested in VoIP calling with my HD2. I don't know much about this, and I would like to be able to use it when I travel to Mexico next month. I know that Blackberry's have UMA technology or soemthing like that to make WiFi calling for free back to the states. Will this PortGo/PortSip program do the same thing if I use the free version, or buy the Professional version?
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gorelshv said:
i had the same problem with portsip. I find agephone to work nicely, only problem with it not being able to direct sound to the earpiece so you will need some software that does that instead.
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Hi Folks,
So I am not a programmer but an avid user of technology. On my tab I can:
Send and receive SMS to my permanent number, and when someone calls me, the call is forwarded to my work cell. Out bound calls go from my work phone (with or without Google Voice). Or I can use the Google Voice web interface to dial and then Google calls my work phone and the other phone.
The Tab # call forwarding is as far as I can tell not an official feature offered by VZW. In fact most of the folks I spoke to, at VZW, swore up and down that it wouldn't work.
Here is what I did:
Activated call forwarding from the regular cell on my permanent line.
Got a Tab, with its own #. Then swapped the two numbers and the call forwarding stuck.
I think there are about 4 people out there that this will be useful for but none the less all 5 of us will revel in our geekyness. (Insert mad scientist laughter here)
The advantage of all this is that I can finally get my SMS messages without carrying 2 "phones" (yes now I carry a tab and a work phone, that is bulkier package, yes, stop pointing out the obvious. This is only for a total of me and the 4 others remember? haha)
PS. Any programmers reading this, a clean Dialer app for the Tab that interfaces with the Google web dial feature would be awesome.
Hey I'm one of those four that appreciates the suggestion and idea! Ended up borrowing a friends old turd phone to port my ATT number to Verizon on. After it was activated and working I setup call forwarding to forward to my Skype number then immediately had them transfer that number to my new unactivated Galaxy Tab.
Works great have my same old cell phone number that I can text and pictures message and at the same time get calls automatically sent to my Skype so it's transparent to everyone calling me. Went ahead and set up Caller ID on Skype to appear as that same old cell phone number.
Thanks works great here as well hopefully they don't disable that down the line .
i just dont get why people would buy sprint or verizon tab? you can't do much with them, to me the GSM versions are the best.
Verizon has much better 3G coverage then both ATT and T-Mobile combined. Add to that Skype calling is $2.99 a month unlimited and works pretty great. Consider those using Skype need some strong and consistant 3G traveling.
Does this work with a Bluetooth ?
Morkai Almandragon said:
Does this work with a Bluetooth ?
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Current modded Skype app (allows 3G calling) supports media profile only meaning only sound no mic support from the bluetooth headset. It's not that bad in my opinion you just need the tab in your immediate space.
Apparently it's partially a limitation with the Skype app, there is a much newer version out that might have added full bluetooth support but I haven't seen anyone mod it for 3G calling yet (keeping eyes peeled).
Maybe not everyone wants to make carrier based calls on their Tab? I know I have no desire to do that. I have a Sprint Tab and can do exactly what I want with it. I don't need a 7" phone. I bought my EVO for that =)
Carrier based calls on my cell and voip calls on my Tab for when I am going to have long work related calls (once they fix the BT profile that is)
I'm not sure if I'm overlooking this or not, honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned.... I'm using Sipdroid (which now supports google voice) to make and receive free calls on the tab. Incoming calls are forwarded to the tab and outgoing calls work fine. I've used it with a wired headset, haven't tried it bluetooth yet. Call quality is very clear.
WarlockLord said:
I'm not sure if I'm overlooking this or not, honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned.... I'm using Sipdroid (which now supports google voice) to make and receive free calls on the tab. Incoming calls are forwarded to the tab and outgoing calls work fine. I've used it with a wired headset, haven't tried it bluetooth yet. Call quality is very clear.
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I'm still new to android. Do you mind explaining how you set up superior with google voice. Don't know how to use superior.
WarlockLord said:
I'm not sure if I'm overlooking this or not, honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned.... I'm using Sipdroid (which now supports google voice) to make and receive free calls on the tab. Incoming calls are forwarded to the tab and outgoing calls work fine. I've used it with a wired headset, haven't tried it bluetooth yet. Call quality is very clear.
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I'm also using sipdroid to make free calls thru google voice but how do you configure sipdroid to receive calls thru your google voice number? Bluetooth works for me though
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I am now using the free CSipSimple app with a trial of Sipgate SIP service and Google Voice service.
I am giving out the GV# to my contacts so that I can change SIP or VOIP carriers without affecting the way I am contacted ever again. To do this I am forwarding calls that are made to the GV# to my Sipgate number, and in the future, any SIP or VOIP number I may end up with.
Sipgate seems pretty reasonable beyond the trial in that it costs 1.9 cents per miniute and you just load your account with credit when you need it. I am using the "Voice" GV app on my tab to handle text messaging to the same GV#, so that GV# is used for both text and voice.
Now to find a reasonable unlimited data plan.
Honestly for what Skype cost a month for unlimited calling in the US and Canada ($2.99 a month) it's a hard to beat option. I simply forward my cellphone/tab number and GV# to Skype and I have Skype caller ID setup to display my GV# when I make calls out.
Add in the latest release 1.0.0.614 (1.0.1) fixes every single shortfall with the Skype app including more notifications for chat and everything else, no more signing out / time outs (8 hours strong without touching the tab still signed in and running), contact integration, etc. I'm using a modded apk for 614 that allows incoming and outgoing calls on 3G and it works without issue.
I may look into Sipdroid and Sipgate as alternatives but for the price Skype works great and has a great backbone as well (considering it's size and use).
Can you post the link for .614? ....
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Well I hit the dreaded bug we've been experiencing on 614 since adding the 3G hack "Already 2 ongoing calls, you must end one call before you can start another one". So it worked great and then now road block , reboot and flush and still the same thing it's like it magically can't call out from 3G (strange).
I'll report as I figure it out.
beestee said:
I am now using the free CSipSimple app with a trial of Sipgate SIP service and Google Voice service.
I am giving out the GV# to my contacts so that I can change SIP or VOIP carriers without affecting the way I am contacted ever again. To do this I am forwarding calls that are made to the GV# to my Sipgate number, and in the future, any SIP or VOIP number I may end up with.
Sipgate seems pretty reasonable beyond the trial in that it costs 1.9 cents per miniute and you just load your account with credit when you need it. I am using the "Voice" GV app on my tab to handle text messaging to the same GV#, so that GV# is used for both text and voice.
Now to find a reasonable unlimited data plan.
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Does anyone have this working over bluetooth on a Verizon SGT?
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Does anyone have this working over bluetooth on a Verizon SGT?
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Do you mean working over a bluetooth headset?
i have tmobile, i can forward calls to my tmobile number to google voice and have it work over 3g or wifi?
i get a very bad signal only at home and cant make calls sometimes, so when someone calls my number itll just send to GV instead?
*i have unlimited data and a voice plan with tmobile*
Coolsaber57 said:
Do you mean working over a bluetooth headset?
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Sorry. Yes, over a bluetooth headset.
magnum_touchpro said:
i have tmobile, i can forward calls to my tmobile number to google voice and have it work over 3g or wifi?
i get a very bad signal only at home and cant make calls sometimes, so when someone calls my number itll just send to GV instead?
*i have unlimited data and a voice plan with tmobile*
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With Google Voice you can forward calls to multiple devices, including your cell phone, or your land line if signal strength is poor at home. Alternatively, Skype over WiFi can be very cool and very cheap - I use Skype on my tab for all outgoing calls from home as I have a poor cell signal.
GV is more than just Visual VM for Android - it is opening the door to a new generation of voice communications that will leave telephone numbers as obsolete as the old Compuserve numbers...
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woneill1701 said:
With Google Voice you can forward calls to multiple devices, including your cell phone, or your land line if signal strength is poor at home. Alternatively, Skype over WiFi can be very cool and very cheap - I use Skype on my tab for all outgoing calls from home as I have a poor cell signal.
GV is more than just Visual VM for Android - it is opening the door to a new generation of voice communications that will leave telephone numbers as obsolete as the old Compuserve numbers...
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thanks i have it set up and will test it out when i switch over to 3g, my plan was to switch over to 3g and disable the phone but if someone calls my tmobile # it can forward to google voice and ring me while on 3g.. hopefully this works lol
Don't know if this was mentioned but the integrated internet calling+Gizmo5+GVoice Callback app works great! will test some more but looks like sipdroid is now obsolete. Hopefully Google will integrate callback into the google voice app to make it more seamless.
sipdroid and other similar apps were bound to become obsolete as Google moves forward implementing their desktop internet calling features.
Honestly, IMO, they are lagging behind. I still don't understand why Google hasn't fully integrated gmail calling into Android as it has all the means to do so.
Let's hope we don't have to wait till 3.0 for that feature....I have horrible reception at my work (old NYC concrete building that nothing seems to be able to penetrate...even Verizon's CDMA) I would love o be able to default to wifi calling when at work.
Excellent news. Sipdroid worked, but it was hardly elegant and often drained the battery like made.
Looking forward to the sip features of 2.3
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sipdroid and other similar apps were bound to become obsolete as Google moves forward implementing their desktop internet calling features.
Honestly, IMO, they are lagging behind. I still don't understand why Google hasn't fully integrated gmail calling into Android as it has all the means to do so.
Let's hope we don't have to wait till 3.0 for that feature....I have horrible reception at my work (old NYC concrete building that nothing seems to be able to penetrate...even Verizon's CDMA) I would love o be able to default to wifi calling when at work.
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Most likely? They're afraid of pissing off the carriers. Same reason why SIP is only usable in WiFi in 2.3 (Though you can bet dollars to beans that it'll be usable in 3G once someone pokes the code in custom ROMs)
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Most likely? They're afraid of pissing off the carriers. Same reason why SIP is only usable in WiFi in 2.3 (Though you can bet dollars to beans that it'll be usable in 3G once someone pokes the code in custom ROMs)
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+1
If the SIP stack is open-source, I doubt it'll take more than a tweak or two to enable 3G calling.
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Excellent news. Sipdroid worked, but it was hardly elegant and often drained the battery like made
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CSipSimple does not normally contribute more than 2% of my battery usage -- and that's normal usage, not just idling. As long as Android's built-in SIP calling is WIFI only I think I'd keep it around.
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CSipSimple does not normally contribute more than 2% of my battery usage -- and that's normal usage, not just idling. As long as Android's built-in SIP calling is WIFI only I think I'd keep it around.
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I got a load of problems with csipsimple
it would even crash the phone application from time to time when receiving incoming calls via gsm
CSIPSimple caused many problems on my end as well, but Sipdroid has been working fine for quite a while in my case.
Hopefully CyanogenMod will include 3G (and 2G...) calling right from the beginning, seems like a no-brainer.
Probably a dumb question, but how should I set my gizmo5 account in order to be able to place calls?
ah bummer. I'm getting a "Called out of Network" error when placing SIP calls to landline . Receiving calls just fine.
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ah bummer. I'm getting a "Called out of Network" error when placing SIP calls to landline . Receiving calls just fine.
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Using what SIP provider?
Really does sound like the provider is to blame.
Has anyone gotten 3G working?
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Probably a dumb question, but how should I set my gizmo5 account in order to be able to place calls?
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Ebay is where I picked up 3 Gizmo5 accounts for around $9.00 each.
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Has anyone gotten 3G working?
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Wondering the same thing. With all the AOSP roms around I would have thought this would have been one of the first things added.
Sipdroid will stay with me for now.
When I setup my GB 2.3 internet wifi with Gizmo and Google call back (as I don’t have free out going minutes), I had to wait for the call back (to ring back) to connect my call.
With sipdroid , the call will go thru as normal without delay.
i wish there was an option to ignore cell calls when a SIP incoming call is coming in at the same time.
The reason I want this is becasue when someone calls my Google Voice number it rings my cell number and my SIP number, I then get 2 calls on my phone and its annoying and sometimes messes up the call
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i wish there was an option to ignore cell calls when a SIP incoming call is coming in at the same time.
The reason I want this is becasue when someone calls my Google Voice number it rings my cell number and my SIP number, I then get 2 calls on my phone and its annoying and sometimes messes up the call
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You can use the Google Voice Settings Locale plugin (I can't remember the exact name, sorry) with either Locale or Tasker to automatically toggle which number GVoice will ring based on your wifi connection state.
can anybody confirm call waiting is working on native sip client?
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You can use the Google Voice Settings Locale plugin (I can't remember the exact name, sorry) with either Locale or Tasker to automatically toggle which number GVoice will ring based on your wifi connection state.
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Awesome, ill give that a try. thanks!
Still would like to have a built in option but this will have to do!
http://android.modaco.com/content/g...ingerbread-internet-calling-sip-without-wifi/
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http://android.modaco.com/content/g...ingerbread-internet-calling-sip-without-wifi/
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thanks a lot.