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Best setup for using both a carkit and GPS Nvigation?!

I am soon to buy the Magician in one of it's many forms. However noe thing i have been woundering is how am i am going to achieve the in-car setup i desire. Basically I need both a carkit (conversation through car stereo speakers etc) and i also want to run GPS navigation on the Magician. First of all is this possible? What happens if i am using the GPS and i recieve a call? Also what hardware are people using to achieve this as i assume i can't use both a bluetooth carkit and a bluetooth GPS reciever?! any hlp is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom

Hi Tom,
I've got an iMate Jam & recently installed a Parrot BTluetooth CK3300 GPS Car Kit into my 1999 RAV4. The installation was pretty straight forward for cars with ISO connection, simply put in the mic, GPS ant & control display, plug into the car harness & HiFi & off you go. The GPS part of the kit is simply & effective, I use Tom Tom Navigator 5 & it's pretty faultless, obtaining a fix in seconds. Here's the bad part, the call quality through the kit using the Jam is AWFUL. Making and receiving calls is accompanied by a loud, high pitched warbling sound which eventually subsides, but is replaced by so much interference that the call is unworkable. I know it's not the kit because my wife's SE T68i works flawlessly. Everything else about the setup works perfectly (pairing muting, upgrading via BT etc etc). This a MAJOR problem which I have sent on to Parrot & am waiting for a reply. I understand they are pretty good at customer enquiries and expect them to come back to me pretty soon. I'll post again when I hear something. Despite all the bad press the Jam gets I think it's the best one I've owned so far (I'm on my 5th) and with the right software is excellent, but the choice of car kit is essential, until these problems are ironed out I wouldn't recommend using the PDA with a BT carkit.

Apart from the poor audio, how does it work when you are being navigated by TomTom and you receive a call? Does TomTom stop talking to you? Does the display show who's calling and then go back to tomtom display etc?

Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre

Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre

so it is possible then to have two bluetooth connections running at the same time? ie. i can use a bluetooth GPS reciever such as the one that is supplied with tom tom and also use any bluetooth carkit at the same time? and this will not cause any problems even if i am making a call and have the GPS running?! If so then i will probably just buy the Tom Tom 5 bluetooth kit and get something like a parrot CK3000? would this setup work?
thanks for everyones help,
Tom

It should work. Mine does. See above. Bluetooth GPS uses a serial profile, bluetooth headset uses a headset profile. No problem to use them both at the same time.
Andre

I used my Jam as phone, mp3 player and GPS all at the same time.
1. MP3 thru my car's aux input
2. GPS thru aux input:
hardware: Tomtom BT receiver
Software: Routis 2, TomTom USA 2004 (can open both if U use GPSGate)
3. Phone thru BT headset or aux input
To answer yr question:
Since I can use both BT GPS and BT headset together. I don't think it's a problem for both BT carkit and BT GPS to works.
Phone call always get highest prioity, all other apps (GPS software, mp3 player) will be mute until U finished yr call.
Phone call is not a problem (see above) but dialing is a big trouble since no voice calling built-in. Third partner software like intellidialer and voice commander (from MS or Cyberon) helps a bit

Ive also got my jam working fine incar. I use a socket bluetooth gps unit http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119717 with tomtom 5 then I have a SE HBH-600 Akono Bluetooth Headset for calls both work together! When I have a incoming call it mutes tomtom and displays the normal caller id app on top, answering the call (via the green hardware button) results in my jam going to the phone app totally and leaving tomtom minimized in the background. As soon as the call ends tomtom jumps back to the foreground, it all works very well in my opinion. Ive also assigned the camera button to switch me back to the today screen so I can launch any app (with tomtom still running in the background) via a icon.

New A2DP Discovery

Hi Guys,
I wanna share something i found out a while ago.
I am currently holding on to a Motorola HT820 and a BlueAngel and i was kinda playing around with it wondering why i cannot answer phone calls and only can play my MP3's. Here is the solution.
Install the A2DP Profile
Soft Reset
Pair it up to your BT Stereo headset using high quality audio
now, upgrade to build 3900.
Run the restartradio.exe
run the bt upgrade cab file
run the restartradio.exe
Now, pair it up to bluetooth handsfree headset.
This works wonders. It seems to work best on WMP10. I have tried
Mortplayer but, after i answer calls, it stops playing and does not resume.
For WMP10, it resumes fine. I have only tested on BlueAngel and HT820.
I dont have the luxury to get my hands on other devices as yet.
BT upgrade files found here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Bluetooth_1.0.0.3900_Upgrade
A2DP details found
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25443
ENJOY !!!!

this currently works best on WMP 10
You can continue listening to music after your call ends with mortplayer,
you have to disconnect the pairing and re-pair again..

XDAII and Motorola HT820
Hey guys,
I'm contemplating buying a Motorola HT820 but I'm concerned that it might not work with my phone - I have an XDAII with WM2005 1.60A installed. anyone know anything?
Thanks and best regards...

Hi
This sounds like what I've been waiting for too.....
I have an XDA II running 2003SE will this work with this combo any ideas?

Good one... will try it later

Has anyone tried with Motorola HS 850???

Has anyone tried with Motorola HS 850???

So far, i have not tried it on XDAII... but i think it should work..

Can anyone confirm if this is possiable with an XDA II as having read through numerious threads on the subject of Bluetooth implementation with various Wicomm configurations, but cannot clearly identify that the A2DP Protocol can be successfully made to work on an XDA II.
I suspect that this can only operate on an XDA IIi or XDA IIs. My requirement is to get a set of Motorola HT820 Bluetooth Stereo Headphones to function with my XDA II via Bluetooth, I am not really worried about the Phone Headset function I would just like to hear Audio via Media Player 10.
Thanks

I have just upgraded to 1.40 ROM (iMate) with Orange EXT ROM on M2000. I have radio 1.13 and the A2DP profile loaded.
Everything was working fine with the old ROM and wmp9, but wmp10 does not respond to the pause, back and forward buttons on the ht820.
Does anyone have this working on ht820? Is there a known work around?

Motorola BT820 Audio Gateway and a player
I've followed the steps above and now have the two new profiles and have managed to pair my Motorola BT820's without any problems.
I've read that this works best with WMP10 but since I don't have this I decided to try Mortplayer.
Silly question : How do I get my XDAIIs to send the audio to the headphones ? Their is an outgoing connection between the two but the sound still comes out of the speaker on the XDAIIs.
If a phone call comes in then this is directed up to the BT820's
Help
Jason

i have done over 50 hard resets.. many tries and it seems to be an intermittend prob.

@woodrjh
In this way a HP Bluetooth Headphones and a Motorola HT820 works with my xda IIi in a2dp mode incl. the Buttons in WMP10.
1. remove the RunBT file from the Autostart dir -> softreset
2. Install the PDA2K_BroadcomCorp_BTUpdate.cab -> softreset
http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/handheldiPAQ/us/download/22475.html
3. Install the HP iPAQ Bluetooth Stereo Headphones Driver Update -> softreset
http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/handheldiPAQ/us/download/22475.html
If the error \windows\btceavif.dll in use come, rename it with Resco File Editor and try again the driver update.
4. Put the the RunBT file back to the Autostart.
cu bülo

does this method enable your bluetooth headset to receive calls?

Bluetooth turns off with HTC TYTN

My bluetooth turns itself off after a few min connected to my parrot car kit? any Clues?
ROM 1.35.255.2
Radio 1.18

which parrot model? I am looking for a bt install kit to go with my vario 2. Tried a motorola HT850, worked ok for about a 1hr test except the voice dial button did not activate the voice recognition on the vario 2. This works ok with my Jabra BT200 earpiece, when its not flat !! Hence why I want an installed unit!

timbouk said:
which parrot model? I am looking for a bt install kit to go with my vario 2. Tried a motorola HT850, worked ok for about a 1hr test except the voice dial button did not activate the voice recognition on the vario 2. This works ok with my Jabra BT200 earpiece, when its not flat !! Hence why I want an installed unit!
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I recently purchased the Parrot CK3200 from Amazon to go with my Vario II. It took about 10 minutes to install but that would depend upon the connections on the back of your car stereo. It mutes the stereo and uses the car speakers. It seems to work very well but I don't use the voice dialling so can't comment on that bit.
The only issue I occasionally have is if I leave the Vario BT on when I shut it down, it doesn't always pair when I turn it back on. It then needs me to turn BT off and on again in the comms manager in order to work. Its easy enough to tell when this has happened as I don't get the blue flashing light on the Vario.

any chance of you testing the voice dial (and voice control of opening applications etc if you knew you could do that!) through the parrot system?
Is the ck3200 the "advanced" one with the lcd display? What's your rom version etc....
Cheers in advance.

It is the one with the colour LCD display, I'll test the voice dial later on my drive home. I had no idea you could open application with voice commands, I guess perhaps I should read the instructions (only do this when all else fails).
My Vario II is running
ROM vs 1.21.110.3
Radio vs 1.05.05.00
The parrot is using version 2.03d
Update:- I tried the voice dialling earlier and can report the following.
Pressing the voice dial button on the Parrot triggered the Hermes to wait for a voice tag but using the Hermes microphone. As I drive quite a noisy van this was not successful. After setting up voice recognition on the Parrot and recording new voice tags the Parrot worked reliably but only using the voice tags saved on it not the Hermes.
To use the voice tags saved on the Hermes I now have to press the voice dial button on it rather than the Parrot. Not ideal as this does not automatically mute the stereo.
To conclude, the two pair reliably and if you don't mind recording new voice tags for the Parrot then voice dialling works very well. I also really like the way I can beam photos to the Parrot so that when friends call I get their picture on the screen.

same problem
tabackd said:
My bluetooth turns itself off after a few min connected to my parrot car kit? any Clues?
ROM 1.35.255.2
Radio 1.18
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I have exactly the same problem and I haven´t found solutiont yet. :-(

Bluetooth cutting out on me too
Never had a problem running my Nuvi 660 and Tytn with original ROM. Low and behold, I upgraded to 1.35 with 1.18 radio, and it started cutting out on me. It is driving me up a wall. I am now sorry I upgraded the ROM. I was debating reinstalling 1.04 bootloader and installing 1.21 radio (which I had installed with original Tytn Rom and no bluetooth problem) with 1.35 ROM. Any thoughts here would be appreciated.

I solved the BT problem with my Orange SPV M3100 by setting it to never switch off the display automatically (only switching off the backlight after 20 seconds or so). I also use an in-car charger to power the TyTN. The car is an A6 with RNS-E (BT enabled) and TyTN works fine and never loses the BT connection as long as the display is active.
This is a mid-term solution though and I'm still eagerly waiting for a ROM update that will solve the problem for good.

Funky
Here's a fix I used on my old wizard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273990 This will keep bluetooth active when in standby,
Props to Funky B for the fix

WM6 with MS stack, PC with Widcomm stack, auto answer problem

Hi,
Some background:
I'm currently working on a carputer project. Everything is working wonderfully and right now I'm going through the final phase of having my HTC Universal (WM6) phone use the car speakers and microphone as headset.
On my computer I am running on Widcomm BT ver 5. The Universal phone is running the MS stack. I managed to pair and connect successfully with my WM6 device. The headset works very nicely both ways, but with a problem:
Whenever a phone call comes in the phone automatically answers the call without even asking me. It rings once then answers. This does not happen while not using a BT headset nor does it happen with my regular portable Samsung BT headset. My universal is set to never receive calls automatically on all profiles. I'm assuming the problem is in the Widcomm driver but there doesn't seem to be anything I can change in the software settings.
Does anybody know how to solve this problem? I obviously don't want every single call that comes in to get answered. I wouldn't even mind answering the call from the phone itself (and not from the PC) as long as the voice gets routed from the phone to the car stereo with the external mic.
Thanks!
Yaniv

Bluetooth Carkit + TouchHD

Hi everybody!
I've used several Nokia Symbian devices before my TouchHD and I've always used them with onboard navigation together with a bluetooth carkit.
Nokia 6600 + Parrot CK3500
Nokia N80 + Parrot CK3500
Nokia N80 + Parrot LS3400GPS
The great thing of this combination was, that every voice command from my navi software was transmitted over my car speakers and the radio was muted!
But with my Bury CC9060 and my TouchHD this great feature doesn't work!
1. Is there a special bluetooth protocoll needed?
2. How can I make sure wether it is the blackstones or the carkits fault, that I don't get voice commands over the car speakers?
3. When I start the MP3 Player in Manila the bluetooth carkit also keeps silent.

Nobody? Here are so many WM experts. Someone must have an answer!

Hello
What version of software are you running in the cc9060?
The latest is v1.74 and this works well with the Touch HD, all contacts are there only battery power level is not working on mine.
The problem you have might be that the car kit connects by default on A2DP and trys to output sat-nav and music via this, if you do not have the cc9060 connected to a aux input you will not hear the audio.
To get around this you can always disconnect the A2DP in the options of the phone ,Comm manager>Settings>Bluetooth>cc9060> then untick wireless stereo
then audio will come out of phones loudspeaker
I have my Touch HD and cc9060 connected to my Focus aux-in and use it as music player while running TomTom, the phone then overlays sat-nav directions over playing music they work well together, the touch screen music controls work well with manillla player and allow control of music without interupting tomtom
If you need to update cc9060 you can get new software from bury's website at
http://www.bury.com/en/hands-free-car-kits/system-bt-bluetooth-systems/cc-9060/software.html
hope this helps

CC9060 Software is already the latest: 1.74
I found these checked bluetooth options:
Wireless Stereo
Hands Free
I'll give that a try and uncheck Wireless Stereo!
Do you already know, that bury will release an actice cradle for the Touch HD in June/July 2009! Then I am able to load the battery while driving.

Update:
With unchecking bluetooth stereo, the navi software uses the phone speakers, whereas it is connected to the CC9060.
But there are still two disadvantages:
- Radio ist not muted when a call comes in.
- Not as loud as the car speakers
I've written to bury and they've answered me the same:
The device must be connected to AUX to hear something over the car speakers.
One question is still unanswered:
What is the reason, that Nokia devices where able to transmit the navigation commnands over the car speakers?
Bury mentioned, that the handy must support this!

Hi Pal
I have the parrot Ck3100 and it would play the sat-nav commands via the stereo speakers with my N95 but won't with the Blackstone. So it must be WM or the Touch HD that is not sending commands to the carkit. I also noticed that with my N95 when I got a text the sms alert was played through the car speakers the touch Hd does not do this.
Hope that helps and if you find a solution I would love to know.
Sully

Damn! Is it the handy operating system or the handy-brand?
As you mentioned already your symbian device is doing it right. But the WM6.1 device fails!
Maybe I should test it with the new omnia HD (also symbian OS) if it works!

Please report back if you find ourt anything more, I am sure it must be possible maybe with a reg tweak.
Sully

At the moment I don't see any possibilities to get that to work.
The manufacturer of the my new bluetooth car kit (bury) said, that it is very seldom, that a mobile phone sends navigation commands to the carkit. They are also not testing this feature, when they are adding a mobile phone to their supported phones list.
Should't a carkit in handsfree mode work as a headset?
Even Parrot was unable to say which device is generally sending every sound to the their carkit. But they said, that their carkit is reacting on EVERY activity from the mobile phone, when it is in handsfree mode.
We need more feedback from carkit / navigations users to finde the weak point!

Hi Pal
Just been reading about vjvolubilis and btmusic and some diamond users have managed to make it work. I have just installed it and will try it out on the way home tonight.
Sully

hungabunga said:
Hi Pal
vjvolubilis and btmusic
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So those are the right apps? Are they free and maybe also available here?
I could test them, too.

they are free to use, i had some success with vjvoubilis. it worked but kept muting the stereo even though there were no commands from tomtom. for btmusic you need .net
sully

btmusic wants to have 2.0. But in my Rom .net 3.5 is already included. Does it work with you?
EDIT: After installing v2.0 via activesync btmusic starts but then a message "license expired 01/09/2008" appears.

I had to download .net 2 to make it work, the phone still works fine after installing version 2 and I am running duttys 2.7rom. Link for .net2 found on this page under requirments http://maxmobilesoft.com/index.php/software/btmusic
Sully

I thought in v3.5 v2 is icluded.
Get it to work now, too. But:
How did you solve the license expired message? Setting back the system language is starting the programm but not a solution for always.

use the link I provided above, you have to register to download but that version doesn't have licence problem.
Sully

Thanks a lot, but I've registered now, too. The app works.
But I am to tired to walk down to the car and test it. Maybe in a few hours after sleeping for a while.

go to sleep man and check it in the morning, there is no rush.
Sully

i cant get my hd to work with my intergrated bluetooth either.
i have tried software call JETware, that many people talk about... still my phone will not ask for the pairing passcode(password or key).
Any help would be great.
thanks

btmusic didn't solve my problem.
Igo8 did not talk to me via bluetooth and the manila music player, too.