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I am soon to buy the Magician in one of it's many forms. However noe thing i have been woundering is how am i am going to achieve the in-car setup i desire. Basically I need both a carkit (conversation through car stereo speakers etc) and i also want to run GPS navigation on the Magician. First of all is this possible? What happens if i am using the GPS and i recieve a call? Also what hardware are people using to achieve this as i assume i can't use both a bluetooth carkit and a bluetooth GPS reciever?! any hlp is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom
Hi Tom,
I've got an iMate Jam & recently installed a Parrot BTluetooth CK3300 GPS Car Kit into my 1999 RAV4. The installation was pretty straight forward for cars with ISO connection, simply put in the mic, GPS ant & control display, plug into the car harness & HiFi & off you go. The GPS part of the kit is simply & effective, I use Tom Tom Navigator 5 & it's pretty faultless, obtaining a fix in seconds. Here's the bad part, the call quality through the kit using the Jam is AWFUL. Making and receiving calls is accompanied by a loud, high pitched warbling sound which eventually subsides, but is replaced by so much interference that the call is unworkable. I know it's not the kit because my wife's SE T68i works flawlessly. Everything else about the setup works perfectly (pairing muting, upgrading via BT etc etc). This a MAJOR problem which I have sent on to Parrot & am waiting for a reply. I understand they are pretty good at customer enquiries and expect them to come back to me pretty soon. I'll post again when I hear something. Despite all the bad press the Jam gets I think it's the best one I've owned so far (I'm on my 5th) and with the right software is excellent, but the choice of car kit is essential, until these problems are ironed out I wouldn't recommend using the PDA with a BT carkit.
Apart from the poor audio, how does it work when you are being navigated by TomTom and you receive a call? Does TomTom stop talking to you? Does the display show who's calling and then go back to tomtom display etc?
Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre
Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre
so it is possible then to have two bluetooth connections running at the same time? ie. i can use a bluetooth GPS reciever such as the one that is supplied with tom tom and also use any bluetooth carkit at the same time? and this will not cause any problems even if i am making a call and have the GPS running?! If so then i will probably just buy the Tom Tom 5 bluetooth kit and get something like a parrot CK3000? would this setup work?
thanks for everyones help,
Tom
It should work. Mine does. See above. Bluetooth GPS uses a serial profile, bluetooth headset uses a headset profile. No problem to use them both at the same time.
Andre
I used my Jam as phone, mp3 player and GPS all at the same time.
1. MP3 thru my car's aux input
2. GPS thru aux input:
hardware: Tomtom BT receiver
Software: Routis 2, TomTom USA 2004 (can open both if U use GPSGate)
3. Phone thru BT headset or aux input
To answer yr question:
Since I can use both BT GPS and BT headset together. I don't think it's a problem for both BT carkit and BT GPS to works.
Phone call always get highest prioity, all other apps (GPS software, mp3 player) will be mute until U finished yr call.
Phone call is not a problem (see above) but dialing is a big trouble since no voice calling built-in. Third partner software like intellidialer and voice commander (from MS or Cyberon) helps a bit
Ive also got my jam working fine incar. I use a socket bluetooth gps unit http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119717 with tomtom 5 then I have a SE HBH-600 Akono Bluetooth Headset for calls both work together! When I have a incoming call it mutes tomtom and displays the normal caller id app on top, answering the call (via the green hardware button) results in my jam going to the phone app totally and leaving tomtom minimized in the background. As soon as the call ends tomtom jumps back to the foreground, it all works very well in my opinion. Ive also assigned the camera button to switch me back to the today screen so I can launch any app (with tomtom still running in the background) via a icon.
Hi all,
Just a quick (and probably stupid) question. I have the O2 mini and find the loudspeaker rather poor. When using the GPS it is often hard to hear the instructions. Is it possible to send the audio to a bluetooth headset, or even a bluetooth car kit.
I am new to all this so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Adam
Adam,
if you are connecting the GPS via BT, it is not possible in the first place to connect a second device in parallel. Unfortunately you can have just one BT connection at a time.
Even with a cable connected GPS it won't work, because it is not possible to use the BT handset as a audio device.
So, no, what you are trying to do is most probable not possible. I am doing it like that, that I use a BT GPS receiver and a cable headset if I do not understand the voices correctly. This way, you get the instructions and you can even make a call without using the loudspeaker.
rgds
Marco
Thanks for the advice marco. Much appreciated. Will just have to stick with the cable headset.
Bluetooth and GPS and Headset can work
Have to disagree with Marco99. I use a Navman 4420 Bluetooth GPS unit and an O2 Bluetooth headset with my I-mate PDA2K (1.40 ROM 1.12 Radio). I use Destinator Software (The Navman SmartST is better at finding the optimum route, but it is buggy and always seems to need upgrading to use the latest ROM).
Anyway, I frequently have both devices paired.
Last weekend coming back from SA to Vic I had the Destinator humming along, and a phone call comes in. The phone screen pops up and I answer the phone using the headset button. I minimise the phone screen, and the Destinator screen re-emerges, still tracking nicely along the Glenelg Highway. You lose the Destinator voice prompts during the phone call, but not the GPS signals, nor the visual prompts.
After hanging up, again using the headset button, the Destinator voice prompts start again and away you go.
I have the HQ audio patch and a HP BT Headset. I must try that sometime with the Destinator. However, I do agree that you can't listen to the navigation software through the headset and answer the phone, only one audio connection can be made via Bluetooth.
Now, if they can fix the "Line of Sight only" B/T headset bug...
Can do BT GPS + Headset at the same time
Just to confirm, I have had my Tomtom v5 Bluetooth GPS & my cheap-n-cheerful "Abe" Bluetooth headset working concurrently. Tomtom mutes when the phone receives/makes a call, but otherwise all is working together 100%, you can make & receive phone calls OK.
Can also confirm this works with non-Tomtom BT GPS (Globalsat model).
Joe
Re: Can do BT GPS + Headset at the same time
joe2316 said:
Just to confirm, I have had my Tomtom v5 Bluetooth GPS & my cheap-n-cheerful "Abe" Bluetooth headset working concurrently. Tomtom mutes when the phone receives/makes a call, but otherwise all is working together 100%, you can make & receive phone calls OK.
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Just to ensure:
You didn't get the voice commands out of tomtom in your bluetooth headset, or?
Stefan
Tomtom5 & BT headset
No Stefan, Tomtom displays a "Mute" icon, so no sounds come from it. Only the voice call is transmitted to the headset
Joe
Re: Tomtom5 & BT headset
joe2316 said:
No Stefan, Tomtom displays a "Mute" icon, so no sounds come from it. Only the voice call is transmitted to the headset
Joe
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I can confirm that 100% :roll:
Re: Bluetooth and GPS and Headset can work
Camstech said:
Have to disagree with Marco99.
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I have to agree with camstech! I was not aware that this really is working, did not believe it and just tried it. And it works exactly as described. So, one new thing learned. As the protocol does not explain the behavior, it looks like the (otherwise crappy) bluetooth stack is quite inteligent here, and switches between different devices, so it looks both work in parallel. So, during my next roadtrip I can bring along my BT headset!
Anyway, unfortunately that does not solve your problem, Adam, as it is not possible to redirect the Navigation voice to your bluetooth headset, as long as the device (BT stack) does not support the appropriate BT profile.
regards
marco
EDIT: just checked the wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth. I must have dreamt about the single point connection with BT. Looks like a BT net (called piconet) can contain up to 8 devices, where one is working as master with up to 7 slaves. The details can be found in wikipedia. Maybe there is just connection per profile but I dont know for sure. Maybe there is a bluetooth expert here in the forum that could enlighten us. And possibly maybe, this is way to technical and all of you guys fall asleep during the first pragraph of my posting anyway ...
Friends,
I have the EXEC and when im using TOMTOM i receive a call, does anyone know how to answer it and Enable the handsfree speaker? I found that i was driving, and i got the call alert and pressed Answer, however i had to pick the exec up, and use it as a normal hand-ear. Anyway of enabling Hands Free?
MANY THANKS
Try holding the Green Button until the speaker is activated + - 3 Seconds
Then switch of Aircon / radio / close the window ...
I must say that Radio 1.06.00 improved the Speaker volume
Regards
Skillie
or buy a bluetooth headset (circa £30 these days) and configure the auto answer feature.
Even without auto answer on my MDA Pro interupts TomTom with the usual call anouncement and I simply hit the button on my headset to accept the call.
i'm having the same problem..
when i use tomtom with bt gps.. and my bt headset.. i cannot make or answer any calls..
the ringtone doesn't sound normal either.. (no continues ringing)
multiple bluetooth devices problem?
TomTom & Nokia Car Kit
I have a similar problem,
I am using a Nokia CK-7w BT Car kit, and a generic BT GPS receiver.
Upon receiving a call, the phone rings as normal, swtiches the stereo off and I take the call - however once on the call I lose the connection to the GPS receiver.
IT must be possible for the two devices to work together as I always receive the calls through the Car Kit.
Any ideas?
TomTom & Nokia Car Kit
I have a similar problem,
I am using a Nokia CK-7w BT Car kit, and a generic BT GPS receiver.
Upon receiving a call, the phone rings as normal, swtiches the stereo off and I take the call - however once on the call I lose the connection to the GPS receiver.
IT must be possible for the two devices to work together as I always receive the calls through the Car Kit.
Any ideas?
Dunno, my O2 Exec with Tomtom 5.2 has no problems. I use a globalsat receiver and currently a Moto HS820 headset, (previously a Jabra BT200, but I broke that).
Navigates fine, when I recieve a call, tomtom is muted, the exec and the headset ring, I press the answer button on the headset, and can take the call, Tomtom will continue to navigate without voice prompts. Finish the call via headset button again and Tomtom becomes un-muted and continues as before.
So the Exec version of the universal at least is more than capable of managing the tasks you require via multiple bluetooth connections. I run in corporate mode if that makes any difference.
tomtom 5?
Im using tomtom 5.21 (i think) with a Bluetooth handsfree kit. Jabra over the ear type. When a call comes in and TomTom is runnin a message flashes up on screen notifying of incoming call. I can answer the call using the soft answer button on screen or by pressing the pickup button on my headset. When I do the message on screen goes away and TomTom carries on just with the sound muted. When I hang up by pressing the call button on my headset TomTom unmutes itself.
Certainly with a bluetooth handsfree kit I have found tomtom works really well.
Having a question, how do you guys use your phone (incomming and outgoing calls) AND TomTom6 at the same time? I mean, when you are in TT6 and my phone rings, TT6 'minimizes/goes to background' during the phone conversation. After ending my phone call, TT6 again appears. Is it possible to still get the route suggestions with the TT6 voices while making phone calls? And is it also possible to have a separate screen in the HTC 9000 so you can see AND TT6 AND your Phone? (I make most calls handsfree in the car so this would be great!).
Also, is it possible to have the HTC 9000 connect to my Pioneer radio/cd player to get TomTom over my car speakers?
no ideas anyone?
really really no clues?
That's strange.
Mine is minimizing when the call is incoming but appears again in mute mode when I answer. I'm also using phonealarm car profile to automatically enable speaker.
But I do no think you can have voth displays.
My suggestion would be to map a hardware button to switch task.
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Having a question, how do you guys use your phone (incomming and outgoing calls) AND TomTom6 at the same time? I mean, when you are in TT6 and my phone rings, TT6 'minimizes/goes to background' during the phone conversation. After ending my phone call, TT6 again appears. Is it possible to still get the route suggestions with the TT6 voices while making phone calls? And is it also possible to have a separate screen in the HTC 9000 so you can see AND TT6 AND your Phone? (I make most calls handsfree in the car so this would be great!).
Also, is it possible to have the HTC 9000 connect to my Pioneer radio/cd player to get TomTom over my car speakers?
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Firstly, I do not have a Navigator6 device but do intend to get one. Therefore, I cannot answer the following:
Having a question, how do you guys use your phone (incomming and outgoing calls) AND TomTom6 at the same time? I mean, when you are in TT6 and my phone rings, TT6 'minimizes/goes to background' during the phone conversation. After ending my phone call, TT6 again appears. Is it possible to still get the route suggestions with the TT6 voices while making phone calls?
As far as the following is concerned:
And is it also possible to have a separate screen in the HTC 9000 so you can see AND TT6 AND your Phone? (I make most calls handsfree in the car so this would be great!).
No, because no HTC device support multi-monitors and split-screens.
And finally:
Also, is it possible to have the HTC 9000 connect to my Pioneer radio/cd player to get TomTom over my car speakers?
Yes, this is possible. You can use the S/PDIF jack and hook it up to the amplifier of your car (yes, you will need an amplifier for you car's audio system to do this). ANother way is the wireless-but-low-quality-audio way which involves using a Bluetooth headset hooked up again to your car's amplifier.
akhnot said:
That's strange.
Mine is minimizing when the call is incoming but appears again in mute mode when I answer. I'm also using phonealarm car profile to automatically enable speaker.
But I do no think you can have voth displays.
My suggestion would be to map a hardware button to switch task.
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Which version of TomTom are you running (the build number) and have you installed the TomTom BT drivers?
I use TT 6.030. Don t know what BT drivers are............
I use TT6.
After phone rings (i asume u using bluetoth hands free)other ways how d you look at the screen., i pres button on my hands free, and screen stase on TT.
When i left my BT at home, i pres unswer, and then loud speeker, and then tiny TT icon at the bottom of the screen, and it pops up. after hanging the call TT stays .
It also works with my IGo 2006.
When I use TT6 with my MDA Pro with a bluetooth headset and I answer a call the bluetooth connection to the gps temporarily drops then reinstates however after the call is hung up the gps signal to tomtom seems to delay by around 30 secs/
does anyone else experience this and do they have a remedy.
sanderh said:
Having a question, how do you guys use your phone (incomming and outgoing calls) AND TomTom6 at the same time? I mean, when you are in TT6 and my phone rings, TT6 'minimizes/goes to background' during the phone conversation. After ending my phone call, TT6 again appears. Is it possible to still get the route suggestions with the TT6 voices while making phone calls? And is it also possible to have a separate screen in the HTC 9000 so you can see AND TT6 AND your Phone? (I make most calls handsfree in the car so this would be great!).
Also, is it possible to have the HTC 9000 connect to my Pioneer radio/cd player to get TomTom over my car speakers?
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I'm now at NBD 7.9 ROM and my TT6 isn't comming back any more.
On the WM5 ROM it did after I got connected in or out calling, but now it stays on the phonepad untill I disconnect then it switches back to TT6.
I realy want it to switch when it gets connected, may be some knows how to do it?!?! (may a registry key...)
any help or solution to this same prob???
Marvie said:
I'm now at NBD 7.9 ROM and my TT6 isn't comming back any more.
On the WM5 ROM it did after I got connected in or out calling, but now it stays on the phonepad untill I disconnect then it switches back to TT6.
I realy want it to switch when it gets connected, may be some knows how to do it?!?! (may a registry key...)
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Still no one has a solution...
Can enyone tell me if it is possible and how??
I have a Parrot 3100 and works fine for calls but can't put it saying nothing that comes from TOMTOM.
I have a friend that one time he heard the tomtom on a head-set.
But only one time and never more.
He doesn't know how!
Can enyone help me?
seem to recall people saying it works if
gps is connected first and then headset
You need a bluetooth headset with AD2P proflie. The standard hards free profile will only route calls to the headset. That said, if you press the voice dial button on your headset when an instruction is being read out, you will hear it in the headset (once only) - probably what the friend experienced.
Hi. I use a piece of software with my standard bt handsfree.
Chartcross Bluetooth Audio Router
The sound quality isn't stunning, but it lets all sounds that usually come from the inbuilt speaker to go through the handsfree instead
Tryed Chartcross Bluetooth Audio Router on my Trinity WM6 using hands free car kit (Delta System)... When activated it switches off the car speakers (like when calls arrive) but sounds still are on the speaker of pda...
Do you thing it will be necessary a reg tweak?
THX
No idea sorry. I only got my Trinity 2 days ago. I was using a prophet before which worked fine with it. I'll let you know if i do find anything though
IN MY HAND-FREE car kit my tomtom turned off the radio and instructions in car speakers.
right now that doesn't happen.
Infortunately i've tried so many roms i don't know i used at that time, and how make car speakers work again. Any help?