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Best setup for using both a carkit and GPS Nvigation?!

I am soon to buy the Magician in one of it's many forms. However noe thing i have been woundering is how am i am going to achieve the in-car setup i desire. Basically I need both a carkit (conversation through car stereo speakers etc) and i also want to run GPS navigation on the Magician. First of all is this possible? What happens if i am using the GPS and i recieve a call? Also what hardware are people using to achieve this as i assume i can't use both a bluetooth carkit and a bluetooth GPS reciever?! any hlp is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom

Hi Tom,
I've got an iMate Jam & recently installed a Parrot BTluetooth CK3300 GPS Car Kit into my 1999 RAV4. The installation was pretty straight forward for cars with ISO connection, simply put in the mic, GPS ant & control display, plug into the car harness & HiFi & off you go. The GPS part of the kit is simply & effective, I use Tom Tom Navigator 5 & it's pretty faultless, obtaining a fix in seconds. Here's the bad part, the call quality through the kit using the Jam is AWFUL. Making and receiving calls is accompanied by a loud, high pitched warbling sound which eventually subsides, but is replaced by so much interference that the call is unworkable. I know it's not the kit because my wife's SE T68i works flawlessly. Everything else about the setup works perfectly (pairing muting, upgrading via BT etc etc). This a MAJOR problem which I have sent on to Parrot & am waiting for a reply. I understand they are pretty good at customer enquiries and expect them to come back to me pretty soon. I'll post again when I hear something. Despite all the bad press the Jam gets I think it's the best one I've owned so far (I'm on my 5th) and with the right software is excellent, but the choice of car kit is essential, until these problems are ironed out I wouldn't recommend using the PDA with a BT carkit.

Apart from the poor audio, how does it work when you are being navigated by TomTom and you receive a call? Does TomTom stop talking to you? Does the display show who's calling and then go back to tomtom display etc?

Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre

Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre

so it is possible then to have two bluetooth connections running at the same time? ie. i can use a bluetooth GPS reciever such as the one that is supplied with tom tom and also use any bluetooth carkit at the same time? and this will not cause any problems even if i am making a call and have the GPS running?! If so then i will probably just buy the Tom Tom 5 bluetooth kit and get something like a parrot CK3000? would this setup work?
thanks for everyones help,
Tom

It should work. Mine does. See above. Bluetooth GPS uses a serial profile, bluetooth headset uses a headset profile. No problem to use them both at the same time.
Andre

I used my Jam as phone, mp3 player and GPS all at the same time.
1. MP3 thru my car's aux input
2. GPS thru aux input:
hardware: Tomtom BT receiver
Software: Routis 2, TomTom USA 2004 (can open both if U use GPSGate)
3. Phone thru BT headset or aux input
To answer yr question:
Since I can use both BT GPS and BT headset together. I don't think it's a problem for both BT carkit and BT GPS to works.
Phone call always get highest prioity, all other apps (GPS software, mp3 player) will be mute until U finished yr call.
Phone call is not a problem (see above) but dialing is a big trouble since no voice calling built-in. Third partner software like intellidialer and voice commander (from MS or Cyberon) helps a bit

Ive also got my jam working fine incar. I use a socket bluetooth gps unit http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119717 with tomtom 5 then I have a SE HBH-600 Akono Bluetooth Headset for calls both work together! When I have a incoming call it mutes tomtom and displays the normal caller id app on top, answering the call (via the green hardware button) results in my jam going to the phone app totally and leaving tomtom minimized in the background. As soon as the call ends tomtom jumps back to the foreground, it all works very well in my opinion. Ive also assigned the camera button to switch me back to the today screen so I can launch any app (with tomtom still running in the background) via a icon.

TomTom Bluetooth GPS & Bluetooth Handsfree

Is it possible to still talk handsfree using my bluetooth carkit whilst simultaneously using a bluetooth GPS receiver to run TomTom Navigator 5?

I was just about to post about this very topic .... :lol:
Whenever I receive a call to my Bluetooth headset when I'm running tomtom it cuts off my connection to the gps receiver. The call comes through to the headset properly and tomtom mutes itself but then it says that there's no gps receiver. Strangely it comes back every minute or so for a few seconds but then disconnects again. As soon as the call ends it works fine. I'm using the £40 bluetooth gps receiver from mobilefun.com, an O2 XDA Mini S and an O2 Bluetooth headset.
Has anyone else seen the same symptoms?
Cheers
Gadget

I have no problems with this but I have found out that I need the phone app to run in the background before I start TomTom. Otherwise I will miss my incoming calls. I am using my "old" Nokia BT headset.

No problems here with a Holux GPSlim and Nokia old thing... Never had a problem with having the phone app open/closed.

tomtom 5 will mute the tomtom audio when you receive/make a call and should come back on when you finish the call, the phone app should not need to be started first, i can even use voice dial

Same for me Tom Tom running and I can use my very old bluetooth headset and voice dialing Tom Tom just mutes but keeps running while making a call. Hang up and everything goes back to normal.

This should not be a problem. Are you using the 5.21 version?
On the Himalaya this works just fine since Bluetooth was implemented properly (from 1.72.00 roms onwards). Therefore it would suprise me (I ordered my Wizard 2 days ago) if this would not work anymore.

Thanks for the replies.
Today my B'Tooth GPS arrived and as advised it all works correctly; even when connected to my Nokia B’Tooth hands free car kit, I was especially impressed how TomTom 5.21 switches on the B’Tooth automatically when started, connects after 15 sec or so and disconnects upon exiting the application.
I am very pleased with MDA Vario, I rate the whole package higher than my old XDa2S.

Running TomTom with screen off, Possible?

Is it possible to have TomTom running with the screen off?
I want to use TomTom on by bike and want the screen off to save power and so only get voice directions through my headset.

I'm not sure but I thougth there was a setting in the TT menu to turn the screen off.
Btw how do you get the voice in your headset....via Bluetooth or cable???
Danny.

BT headset would be tangle free but would be uncomfortable with a helmet, plus the aim is to conserve power. so wired headset would be best.

Not if you use it with a N-comm series helmet.....
Works great.....however I haven't tried it with TT yet....
At the moment I've got mono sound from mediaplayer in Tytn...
It interrups when an incomming call is received and answers after 3 rings....
What I'm working on now is stereo sound.....+ plus getting my &^#&$# voicedial activated via the helmet.....
Also reliable TT with spoken commands in helmet are on my wishlist....
Danny.

Wing and Jabra JX-10 Bluetooth Headset

OK I just bought the most expensive bluetooh headset man can find the Jabra JX-10 hoping that I will not have the same problems I have had with all other plantronics and other head sets.
The headset paired and (I guess its connected, there is no indication on the screen)
Here is the problem:
When I make a call, I see the headset logo on the dialer screen. The voice however comes from the phone, not the headset. Then I have to I push the CALL button on the headset to TRANSFER the call. (If my timing is not perfect and I push the button "before" the call is actually CONNECTED and there is someone talking, the phone will simply HANG UP.
Can the phone just send the calls to the headset at all times (unless I am in my car that has bluetooth?)
THANKS FOR ALL THE POSTS!!

I uninstalled touchflo and un-paired and re-paired the headset and it is working properly now.

HD2 and Nokia bluetooth car kit

I've got a Nokia bluetooth car kit (CK-7W) and while this worked perfectly with my N95 (obviously) and works for incoming calls on the HD2 there's one problem with using it for outgoing calls.
To make a call with the Nokia you hold down the button on the car kit for a second and then this triggered voice dialling. However, holding down the button while connected to the HD2 mutes the stereo and then just seems like it's trying to do something then goes back to stereo again. Now I'm presuming that as the HD2 doesn't come with voice dialling (why oh why?) there's no button for the hands free kit button to map to.
I've installed Cyberon but as this still doesn't work off a button press it also doesn't work.
What I'm wondering is, is there any way to map Cyberon (or whatever other voice dialer you use) to a button and then get that button to be picked up by the Nokia car kit?
Not hopeful but as being able to make calls hands free is generally the point of a hands free kit, any help would be appreciated.

Any solution?
mbuckley said:
I've got a Nokia bluetooth car kit (CK-7W) and while this worked perfectly with my N95 (obviously) and works for incoming calls on the HD2 there's one problem with using it for outgoing calls....
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Did you find any solution to this issue? I facing the same.

I am in the same boat, anyone help please? All I want it to do is play and receive audio through the car kit
thanks
D

I have the same kit and have found the following:
1. If you receive an incoming call and press the Nokia Car Kit button it answers the phone and the call comes through the kit speakers.
2. If you answer an incoming call with the phone handset rather than the car kit button the phone answers but the sound comes from the phone rather than the car speakers.
3. If you try to initaite a call be pressing the car kit button the HD2 doesn't understand whats going on and sits there waiting for a timeout.
4. If you initiate a call through the phone (in a cradle to maintain hands-free laws) then the phone dials and then switches on the car kit so that the call comes through the car speakers.
I had to do this with my Orbit II since I never got round to using voice tags for pressing the Nokia button.

nyopa said:
I am in the same boat, anyone help please? All I want it to do is play and receive audio through the car kit
thanks
D
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I was always under the impression that the Nokia CK-7W does not support A2DP.
This feature only really came out in the later models such as Ck-20, ck-100 etc.
Do bear in mind that ck-7w is approximately 5-6 years old. I am not even sure waht bluetooth revision and call handling firmware is running in the hf-5 module box.
I do know that people started to have problems with ck-7w with the newer series of phones so most of them upgraded their kits.
If you do look for an upgrade option, you may wish to check out parrot ck 3100.
A lot of our customers have used these with no problem, and those that did have a minor problem went to parrot support and bluetoothed the newer firmware to the kit to resolve it.
I do not work for Parrot in anyway. These are just my personal findings organising car kit installations for various corporate customers.

I have a CK-7W and it works fine with MS Voice Command
HTH

I've got an HTC HD2 from my Company. Now i wanted to connect it to my Nokia CK-7W installed in my car. The problem is, that the phone does not find the Carkit!
Does anybody know a solution?
Thanks!