I've been reading through this discussion board for the last few days. I currently have a Cingular 8125 device, and I'm thinking about upgrading to the 8525. I am interested in developing for the Pocket PC platform, but probably do not want to install "unofficial" ROMS.
The question I would have for you guys is: Is there any reason to wait for something better to come out from Cingular, or is the 8525 going to keep me happy for awhile? Will Cingular release WM6 for the 8525, or will I be stuck with WM5 if I only use the "official" software updates from Cingular. Is WM6 even worth upgrading to?
The main reason I ask these questions is that I'm trying to figure out if it is better to wait for the next device, or just go ahead and keep the 8525 for a long time.
wm6 is faster and allows for html email. There aren't any wm6 ppc phones that i know of that have been announced or even likely to come to cingular. So if you want to wait, it might not be a bad idea, but it will most likely be a very long time.
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Ive done some combing around the forum to try to pinpoint an answer here. But i have mixed feelings!
Ive got the cingular 8125, right out of the box. Not much done to it yet.
What ROM would you more expierenced guys recommend for it?
(cingular 8125 and AT&T simcard)
Thanks!
I just loaded the new imate one onto mine, works pretty good so far
any problems.. it will ldefinitely wipe out cingular stuff. Also is there a tool to copy the Existing ROM and reinstall it in case of issues. I too have the 8125 with ATT card and the problem is that Cingular itself doesn't support it if we have problems. I just wanted to be sure that its the rite way.. or maybe Cingular with comeup with a ROM upgrade soon.. u never know. plzz share your views..
If I were a betting man... and I am... I would say that the chances of Cingular releasing a ROM are VERY slim. They don't seam to support their branded phones. Just my thought.
Later; Lew
So you are saying that if we are hoping to get an updated ROM for Cingular, that we should probably give up that hope?
I just took a chance, yes it does clear out the cingular rom, but you get some nice extras, like microsoft pushmail, and skype preinstalled
I foolishly expected that when I bought a 8125 in March, it would have the True Push email pack that Microsoft released in in October. So I was very disappointed when it didn't have it. I did the research and found that Cingular was committed to a "first half" of 2006 for that update. They have the motivation in that I think a lot of businesses are waiting for true push before they will go with WM 5.
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I foolishly expected that when I bought a 8125 in March, it would have the True Push email pack that Microsoft released in in October. So I was very disappointed when it didn't have it. I did the research and found that Cingular was committed to a "first half" of 2006 for that update. They have the motivation in that I think a lot of businesses are waiting for true push before they will go with WM 5.
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They do have true push email, however they appear to have partnered with Goodlink to provide push mail service.... IE.. they are pulling a verizon stunt and trying to squeeze every cent they can get out of you. If you want push mail, you will have to pay for it, they do offer a decent price on the client.
I ran the rom upgrade to the aku2 rom, works well, now if only I could figure out how to setup funobal (used to be sync4j), a suite of stuff to link to any mail server to support push mail and syncing, rather then using exchange.
I've just purchased a T-Mobile UK MDA Vario branded handset along with the bundled CoPilot 6 Live GPS kit.
So far I've been frustrated with its sluggish behaviour all round, and a multitude of problems.
I've currently got the OMPA over clocking app running which improves the Co-Pilot launch time a lot.
However, I keep reading that an AKU2 ROM update is needed. However I cannot find *anywhere* (not just this site) an explination of exactly what improvements this ROM makes to the usability of the HTC Wizard.
I'm not interested in new features such as push email right now. I just want to be able to use the phone without it pausing for a minute and getting confused with too many button presses.
As my MDA Vario is only a few days old I'm told it can be returned if I just can't use it. Because of this I don't want to install any hacked/other network AKU2 ROM at present.
Can any body tell me or point me to some details about changes in this AKU2 ROM update please?
First off, search the forums for info on AKU2 ROM's, each of the ROM's ends up witha discussion of the good the bad and the ugly.
That said, the TMO UK Ship ROM is a pile of nasty stuff, slow, buggy and prone to crashing into one of two states (either the regular reboot or the device is on the lights are flashing but it won't wake up, receive calls or receive email). I'm stuck with it at the moment as I need to run the blackberry software.
The AKU2 ROM's are more stable, don't crash the device when using an SD card, the radio ROM's are faster and connect/reconnet to networks faster and fundamentally better (think Windows XP then XP SP2).
All of the AKU2 ROM's have subtle differences but for my money, if you dont want/need all of the cellular provider branding etc then I'd go with the latest QTEK SHip ROM (check the ftp site). It's easy enough to configure the GPRS, MMS etc for TMo after you've installed the ROM.
Generally, if you're new and it's a new device, read the forum postings, read the Wiki - it's all there though you may have to do some digging around. If all else fails post a query but be wary of posting questions that are on the forums as you'll be begging for a ton of abuse at using people's time to save you effort looking...
Don't give up on the device, once you move to AKU2 and away from that dodgy TMo 1.6 ROM you'll be much happier.
I spent ages reading post after post and not really getting a clear bullet list of what's what. Basically I wanted to know if the sluggish response from the phone would ever be improved.
http://xda.o2.co.uk/xdaMiniSoftware.aspx gives a fairly good (to me) break down of the features in the AKU2 ROM update.
Well im back here again after a month or two and soon i will be eligible to upgrade my phone with cingular..
i noticed the 8525 is available now and looks nice... Is the 8525 still considered a wizard? Will all the same apps work? I didnt notice a section specifically for the 8525 so i was just wondering?
thanks
The 8525 is the Hermes aka HTC TyTN.
Both the 8125 and the 8525 are WM5 devices and will run the same software.
For further information, check the Hermes forums
IMO, the 8525 is only worth it if you live in a 3G area.
As soon as 3G comes to where I'm living, I'll be making the upgrade
I have a Cingular 8525 and it is unlocked and I use T-Mobile service with it. I see that T-mobile has released the WM6 upgrade... http://home.businesswire.com/portal...d=news_view&newsId=20070502006572&newsLang=en
My question is should I upgrade using the T-mobile version or should i wait and get the cingular version of WM6? Also, is it worth the trouble to upgrade? Im a pretty heavy user of all the features of the phone.
Also, what software would you recommend me using to backup my programs on my phone if i do upgrade?
Thanks in advance,
Rjp20
Anyone??? Can anyone help???
T-Mobile have released a WM6 update, but it's for the Dash - a completely different device to the 8525 you have.
There is a forum devoted to WM6 and Hermes here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=355
I'd try searching that forum, the wiki, etc.
Read through the posts on all the different ROM's, This will lead you to make the decision your looking for in regards to WM6.
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T-Mobile have released a WM6 update, but it's for the Dash - a completely different device to the 8525 you have.
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There is also an update for the MDA
Hi guys its been 3months now since I bought this device called Orange SPV 3100[HTC Hermes]. Since then my struggle to keep it working all the time started. I love installing apps/games & moreover the educative apps the most. I never tried to tweak much with my device as I never had time to do this. I am using SKTools retail to keep my device healthy. But I don't know after such a short period of time I am feeling so irritated with this device, I am using WM5 official ROM of Orange. Its been 4 times in the entire period that I hard reset my device to set it right but again after 1 week I don't know what happens with it,that it always starts giving me one or other problems like- short battery life, hang[most of the time I have to soft reset my device,normally 20 times a day] I do some important work of mine & the next time it stops working as if there is something very heavy going on inside the RAM. Now after 4th hard reset I tried to set everything right but of no avail, I tried using task switcher of different brands in order to have some sort of task management, but again this stupid device not allowing any of these task managers to work. What should I do avoid such hangups, crashes, less battery life? What is the answer? does it lies somewhere in changing the device or changing the OS to WM6 as been claimed by many. I need Your reply seniors I really bought this device to be a part of Forum.Xda-developers family, but now I am so sad with my experience that sometimes I regret my decision of buying a PPC device when I have lot of important works to do[I am an attorney] Seniors, technicians I Urge You to look in to this matter as an urgency otherwise it will be a last week of this device with me.
"This device is suppose to help me & not the vice versa"
Regards
Saksham Katyal
Plz help me getting an answer friends. I am going out of town by Friday morning so I to decide about it as soon as possible that what can be the most appropriate answer to the adversities I am facing..
sakshamkatyal said:
Plz help me getting an answer friends. I am going out of town by Friday morning so I to decide about it as soon as possible that what can be the most appropriate answer to the adversities I am facing..
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I think I can feel your pain. I had a Dopod 838 pro (aka Hermes).
But you've already mentioned the source of your problem: you're still using WM5 on your Hermes (???). Even now, there are still people who have not flashed the latest official WM6 ROMS?
Why don't you download the official ROM from the HTC or dopod website and take the time to flash it to your device...
I flashed mine, and the number of times I had to soft-reset the device in a week I can count on three fingers. (of course, I will soft-reset everytime I do a backup, but never mind that). It turned out to be the BEST phone/PDA I have ever had in over 10 years.
The ONLY reason I switched to TyTN II Kaiser is coz I found I needed more RAM for applications (due to my work. I'm an FX trader and part-time real estate speculator). Otherwise, for normal usage (PIMs, contact management, Internet, messaging, phonecalls), I think I would have stuck with the Dopod for a very long time..
The only tweakers I used were SKTools and Memmaid (I'm still using them). You say you never tried to tweak coz you don't have the time? I'm afraid you better find the time, friend. One Saturday evening is all you need to go thru the settings.
For me, I think it's worth the trouble, considering what the Hermes is capable of helping me to do.
As a starting point, you can go back to your vendor who should be knowledgeable enough to assist with the tweaks. Or you can try browsing thru my bookmarks here:
http://del.icio.us/Arbitrageur/PPC
Unfortunately his provider (Orange) has yet to publish a WM6 Rom for his device...
Does that matter? Take a trip to the Hermes Mobile 6 forum...
So friends, the answer lies in WM6? Can I use the WM6 posted here in the upgrading section in my Orange SPV 3100? No seniors here, I don't expect this from Forum.xda developers seniors. Plz seniors this could be last time I am posting here in this forum if no help will come through. Help me seniors..
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Unfortunately his provider (Orange) has yet to publish a WM6 Rom for his device...
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Hmm... is the device locked to Orange? Locked phones can't use the official "generic" ROM from the Dopod/HTC website?
Hope y'all will excuse my ignorance in this. My old Dopod 838 pro wasn't locked to Maxis (my provider). I downloaded my SEA-version WM6 upgrade from the HTC website. (surely there is an Indian version?)
Guys I just installed Black Magic WM6 few days back with radio version 1.40. I am very happy now with my cellphone. Really there is a lot of change in WM5 & WM6, which I couldn't fathom. Thanx everybody for Your support. I would suggest anybody facing such problems to plz upgrade their machine. Highly recommended with mrvanx.org help guide. Guys can You plz help me in finding the right version of radio. I mean I am using 1.40 is there any new version for my HTC TyTn device. it would be great...
Here you go - all the extracted Radio ROMs available for Hermes available for download. Read their respective threads if you want to know about their issues/performance.
I couldn't imagine using WM5 ever again. It would be like reverting back to dial up.