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dead qtek 9100

Hi
I having a problem yesterday my perfectly working qtek ran out of power and had shut down by it self, my wife tried to turn it on and it started to boot, came in WM5 but shut down once again. Now it is dead it will not charge run with out battery or anything it like a brick.
Any suggestions to get it to work is appreciated
regards Bo

This might sound stupid but have u tried taking out the battery and butting it back in?

have same problem, taking batery off/on does not help. any hints?

anr said:
have same problem, taking batery off/on does not help. any hints?
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u need to charge the batterie from tha wall. maybe all nite.or find another way of charging the batterie.

faria said:
u need to charge the batterie from tha wall. maybe all nite.or find another way of charging the batterie.
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Yea as he mentioned...
I'm going to assume (since you posted here) the 9100 is a variation of the Wizard. In my MDA manual (and learned by testing) a dead Wizard will only get a charge from the wall charger. It will not charge via USB unless it still has some power. Use the charger that came with the phone (not the sync cable). You should notice the charge light come on instantly. The phone can be put on the Sync cable to charge arfter being on the wall cord for like 5 or 10 minutes to finish charging if you want.

frazell said:
Yea as he mentioned...
I'm going to assume (since you posted here) the 9100 is a variation of the Wizard. In my MDA manual (and learned by testing) a dead Wizard will only get a charge from the wall charger. It will not charge via USB unless it still has some power. Use the charger that came with the phone (not the sync cable). You should notice the charge light come on instantly. The phone can be put on the Sync cable to charge arfter being on the wall cord for like 5 or 10 minutes to finish charging if you want.
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there is a topic here somewere.in how to charge a dead wizard from a 9v battterie or from a hacked usb cable.

Wizard looks like is recharging, but in real it doesn't!

Hi guys,
my beloved qtek 9100 is having some weird behavior since last week: i let my battery drain to 9% and then recharged. The phone would not recharge it, showing a red led. After lurking and learning about this problem on those devices I made a "starter" with three 1.5v batteries and gave the battery the necessary tension to start recharge cycle.
I thought that would be the solution but no: the phone kept stopping recharging at 25% or, the next time, at 75% with no apparent reason. Then, i tried many solutions like directly charging the battery with a cut usb cable, with the stock charger, with powered on phone, powered off phone, etc. No clue.
What leaves me shocked is that the battery, even when at 75%, drops suddenly to 0% after enabling the radio module thus killing the device...
An important note: same behavior with two different batteries...
I'm going nuts...

Problem still unsolved. Today i left the device recharge at 100% (took about 3 hours), detached it and tried a rom downgrade. Obviously it died at 50% of rom upgrade procedure. Sweet...now it's almost bricked, bootloader screen and recovery procedure to be done
What could it be, an hardware failure?

Hi there, same problem here: I have the phone with two batteries, on half a year old, one brand new. The batteries DO charge on another phone, but after a regular charge is gone, my phone never gecharges the batteries. It might be the charger circuit? If not HW, is there any chnce to do some SW stuff?
Unfortunately this thing s just a brock now ...
Bye
mr.groovie

mr.groovie said:
Hi there, same problem here:[CUT]
mr.groovie
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It's good to find someone with my very same problem...although i've got no solution, still!
Is there someone out there who knows how much would cost a fix and if it's an hw issue or not? Would it be possible to fix it via DIY?
Thanks in advance

Someone suggested me to test the current output on the main contacts to see if the device is actually supplying power to the battery.
So i plugged the wall-charger on the device, took a multimeter, checked the output: the device is supplying 3.5-3-7 volts. So, i suppose it is correctly charging. Why, then, after a turn-off / turn-on the charge level drops after showing as completed?
Could it be a sw problem, then?

USB voltage is 5v. If you are not getting 5v on the USB plug coming from that charger, then that is probably your problem. Have you tried using a USB cable to plug it into your PC to charge?

d0ug said:
USB voltage is 5v. If you are not getting 5v on the USB plug coming from that charger, then that is probably your problem. Have you tried using a USB cable to plug it into your PC to charge?
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Thanks for the hint
I suppose the problem is another...in fact those 4 volts are coming from the battery itself. Pluggin in or out the power plug doesn't make any difference.
I tried taking out the battery and there's no power coming through the main contacts of the phone. Is this the right way to check or should i use some different method?
Thanks again

Last question: is there someone who could show me where the recharge circuit should be on the mainboard? Have you got any information about the ease of a diy repair and about the price / availability of the spare part?
Thanks in advance

spidernik84 said:
Last question: is there someone who could show me where the recharge circuit should be on the mainboard? Have you got any information about the ease of a diy repair and about the price / availability of the spare part?
Thanks in advance
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Are you using the wall charger or with the PC. Cus you will get more power input from the Wall. As so i dont know the reg key off hand but if you change one thing you can make it so your phone does not charge off the PC. Maybe you have found a new one!

funman said:
Are you using the wall charger or with the PC. Cus you will get more power input from the Wall. As so i dont know the reg key off hand but if you change one thing you can make it so your phone does not charge off the PC. Maybe you have found a new one!
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With both the wall charger and the pc usb plug. Checked the registry key and no way, it's ok.
It's really incredible, the total charge cycle takes a couple of hours, like if it were charging regularly, but after unplugging it goes down. It is like if the "carge counter" or similar records the charging, with the battery actually not receiving power.

did you solve your problem yet?

toanhung said:
did you solve your problem yet?
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Hell...no!

Battery Charger

This may seem like a funny question...
But would there happen to be any chargers JUST for the battery? I have a feeling that the usb port in the phone is broken, and I just purchased a new battery. So, I would have no way to charger the battery, nor use the phone...therefore if I could find a battery charger I would be all set. OR, are there any broken/cheap mda's out there that only function to charge the battery(i.e broken screen/speaker/etc)

What do you mean you have a feeling the USB port is broken? You should know this when it's time for a charge. If your device is stll under warranty, try to get a replacement. Since the 8125 is no longer available, you may be able to get a 8525. The same thing happened to me, and I got a replacement after talking to a Cingular rep.

hotdog53 said:
What do you mean you have a feeling the USB port is broken? You should know this when it's time for a charge. If your device is stll under warranty, try to get a replacement. Since the 8125 is no longer available, you may be able to get a 8525. The same thing happened to me, and I got a replacement after talking to a Cingular rep.
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I'm assuming you have a 8125 since this is the Wizard forum, and you did not state what type of device in your thread...

Yes, there are chargers that you can get just for the battery, just check out ebay and I'm sure you'll find a few of them. You might also try your local phone store if it's a decent one that carrys lots of accessories, you might be able to find one there.

I have a tmobile MDA. The phone is out of warranty, and therefore I can't get a replacement. Unless I want to pay for it. The phone is completely dead, to the point where it will no longer turn on. I have read that once the battery is below a critical level, it will no longer accept a charge. I've also read that I would have to give it a small boost via a cut USB cord, to get it above that critical level.
I'm assuming the usb port is dead due to the fact that the orange light no longer turns on. This could be due to the battery being so low, OR the usb port is defective and not accepting a charge.
I'll certainly check ebay for a battery charger. Anything specific I should look for?

TazMan1688 said:
I have a tmobile MDA. The phone is out of warranty, and therefore I can't get a replacement. Unless I want to pay for it. The phone is completely dead, to the point where it will no longer turn on. I have read that once the battery is below a critical level, it will no longer accept a charge. I've also read that I would have to give it a small boost via a cut USB cord, to get it above that critical level.
I'm assuming the usb port is dead due to the fact that the orange light no longer turns on. This could be due to the battery being so low, OR the usb port is defective and not accepting a charge.
I'll certainly check ebay for a battery charger. Anything specific I should look for?
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Based on what you're saying here, a battery only charger won't help. Where if you can remember did you read that a battery can't be recharged after reaching a critical level? I have read where it's good to periodically drain the battery for extended battery life. The orange light is just the charging indicator, and the battery itself has nothing to do with it. You can plug in the charging port without a battery, and a working device wil show an orange charging light. Your charging port has lost connection inside. Did you drop or abuse your device? Either stock up on batteries, get another device, or have the one you have now repaired.

I'll look and see if I can't find one on there for you and post a link. If I remember right, just searching for t-mobile mda should get you a few of them although you may have to search through a few pages to find one.
Here's one that I just found that has both a sync charger and a spare battery charger(what you're looking for) - http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-AC-BATTERY-...yZ146435QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I know I've seen them that are just a spare battery charger without the sync and they were a lot cheaper but I didn't see any of them listed. I only went through a couple of pages though so I'm sure if you look a little harder than I did you can find them.

I found one on ebay. But I was able to jump start the battery w/ a cut USB cord, and now it's working fine.

Oh, I just read your post saying that your battery was completely dead. I can help you fix that one without cutting up a charger. All you need is a 9v battery and a couple of wires (wire bread ties will work if you don't have any wire handy).
Remove your battery from your phone and connect the 9v battery to it + to + and - to - for 10 seconds, disconnect it for 30 seconds and then repeat the process for a total of 10 times (connect fo 10 secs, disconnect for 30 secs). Then put the battery back in the phone and connect it to the charger again and charge it until it's full and then you should be good after that.

xeno1 said:
Oh, I just read your post saying that your battery was completely dead. I can help you fix that one without cutting up a charger. All you need is a 9v battery and a couple of wires (wire bread ties will work if you don't have any wire handy).
Remove your battery from your phone and connect the 9v battery to it + to + and - to - for 10 seconds, disconnect it for 30 seconds and then repeat the process for a total of 10 times (connect fo 10 secs, disconnect for 30 secs). Then put the battery back in the phone and connect it to the charger again and charge it until it's full and then you should be good after that.
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This method worked for me last week, I had the exact same issue and found the same fix somewhere on this forum, Great advice!

HD2 Died - Power Problem

Thats right.. last night i left my Leo charging, today when i woke up i noticed that the battery level was very low so.. i unplugged it and plugged it again, noticed that the orange led wasnt lighting up, neither was the phone charging.
The phone gets very very very hot when plugged to charger or USB port on my computer and does not charge at all.
Tried it all, left it all day long with the battery out of the phone, tried charging without it in.. and nothing..it just gets very hot where the connectors (pins) make contact with the battery.
Now im trying to charge the battery on a cradle to flash it with stock rom and SPL to get it to warranty..
Any of you guys has any thoughts?

I see i posted in the wrong section.
Thank u mod

Do you always charge via usb into pc? Is your cradle plugged into the wall or pc? I don't know if you have done this, probably so, but check in windows settings->system->Power and inside the battery tab see if the "When phone is on, do not charge the battery when connected to a PC" is checked.

Sean3 said:
Do you always charge via usb into pc? Is your cradle plugged into the wall or pc? I don't know if you have done this, probably so, but check in windows settings->system->Power and inside the battery tab see if the "When phone is on, do not charge the battery when connected to a PC."
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Yeah.. it crossed my mind to check for it, and that option is unchecked.
Though the charging "orange" led doesnt turn on even if the phone is off.
I usually charge it via usb->pc, allthough i tested with the wall charger and nothing.
I suspect it must have been a power surge that burnt in some way the PBC of the "charging module..thing"
Thanks for the suggestion

i'd check that none of the pins for the battery are in contact with each other if there is heat in that area.

Ok, I'm assuming then that the phone works, but just has low battery at the moment. If that's the case then it doesn't appear to be the battery or the leads. Any chance it's the cable? That of course assumes your using the same one with the cradle. I ask because my device didn't come with a wall charger, just a usb cable so I had to get a few extra plus a wall plug-in with a usb port.

Jack E said:
i'd check that none of the pins for the battery are in contact with each other if there is heat in that area.
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Yep already checked it..although if it was something wrong with the pins the phone wouldnt turn on.. i dunno

Sean3 said:
Ok, I'm assuming then that the phone works, but just has low battery at the moment. If that's the case then it doesn't appear to be the battery or the leads. Any chance it's the cable? That of course assumes your using the same one with the cradle. I ask because my device didn't come with a wall charger, just a usb cable so I had to get a few extra plus a wall plug-in with a usb port.
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I have a car charger also.. and nothing.
Your leo didnt came with a wall charger?

BillReed said:
I have a car charger also.. and nothing.
Your leo didnt came with a wall charger?
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Weird, but unfortunately it didn't. I think being in the US and getting the device from Telstra in Australia may be why I didn't. Well, if it is a hardware problem and you can't get it to charge from the device, I believe you can get a cradle that will allow you to charge the battery independant of the phone. I know it's not the best option on the planet, but it would get your battery where it needs to be to flash and confirm whether or not it's a charging issue with the battery itself.
Come to think of it, this did happen to me several weeks ago. I plugged the phone in before bed as usual and noticed the charging light didn't go on and the battery drained overnight from about 60% to 15%, which it shouldn't have done. Not in standby at least. Soft-reset the next day fixed it. It hasn't done it since. I was installing a bunch of things that evening, which may have been what did it.

I had a same problem with my hd2 and by some miracle and few days of pain
it workd again...and it workd about 5 days and same thing happend al over again...and I think I have solution!
It may be stupid but it work for me...
try to connect your hd2 to charger but without battery and then insert the battery and it should start up your phone and charging...
I apologizes for my poor english

mikelebrat said:
I had a same problem with my hd2 and by some miracle and few days of pain
it workd again...and it workd about 5 days and same thing happend al over again...and I think I have solution!
It may be stupid but it work for me...
try to connect your hd2 to charger but without battery and then insert the battery and it should start up your phone and charging...
I apologizes for my poor english
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I'll try that when i arrive home..

Hd2 not getting charged!!!! Pls help me

Hi Folks,
My HTC HD2 Android not getting charged either by a wall charger or usb via my pc... i dont what happened suddenly it got turned off due to low battery and when i pluged it for chrging its not showing orange LED notification of charging. when its off and plugged in Orange LED blinked once and Phone got switched on. And when its connected to PC for abt 3 mins it will show charging and after that it shows discharging and battery drains when it shows it discharging . pls help me out coz i dont want to loose my Leo .
Thanx in advance,,,,

Check the pins at the phone which connects to the battery. Sometimes they are deformed and this cause the charging/not charging problem.
But... in this case I don't think this is the problem, because this problem should not affect direct charging from usb cable.
Anyway check them just for sure!

Thanks VDodi
VDodi said:
Check the pins at the phone which connects to the battery. Sometimes they are deformed and this cause the charging/not charging problem.
But... in this case I don't think this is the problem, because this problem should not affect direct charging from usb cable.
Anyway check them just for sure!
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I tried diff cables but its the same...

Magldr doesn't support charging when phone is off.

Nigeldg said:
Magldr doesn't support charging when phone is off.
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so if your phone dies how do you get it to charge?

Wdustin1 said:
so if your phone dies how do you get it to charge?
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Best way is not to let it run out
However, normally it will have enough charge left once it dies to boot up far enough to start charging. If this is not the case, then you have to cut open a USB cable and use the red and black wires to charge the battery. I have not had to do this and am unsure as to how to do it but there are tutorials. It seems simple enough.

Sarathdna said:
Hi My HTC HD2 Android not getting charged either by a wall charger or usb via my pc... i dont what happened suddenly it got turned off due to low battery and when i pluged it for chrging its not showing orange LED notification of charging.
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Consider, as was previously suggested, a cable connection issue.
While you do not currently have the luxury of looking at your status icons, I have found that, on occasion, when I plugged in the phone to charge, the status icon indicated a USB connection, rather than a charging icon. Unplugging the cable and re-inserting the cable fixed it.
Note that new high quality cables can exhibit the same issue.
You have nothing to lose... Give it a shot.
Good luck.
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Sent from my ICS HD2 with XDA Premium

Nigeldg said:
I have not had to do this and am unsure as to how to do it but there are tutorials. It seems simple enough.
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Take out battery, plug chopped up USB cable into wall charger, use fingers to hold red to + black to -, count to twenty, battery in phone, phone into bootloader, real charger cable into phone and wall charger, leave 10 mins, reboot into android. (Can charge all the way in bootloader, but it seems slower than when android is running.)

samsamuel said:
Take out battery, plug chopped up USB cable into wall charger, use fingers to hold red to + black to -, count to twenty, battery in phone, phone into bootloader, real charger cable into phone and wall charger, leave 10 mins, reboot into android. (Can charge all the way in bootloader, but it seems slower than when android is running.)
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By 'tutorials on how to do this' I basically meant your posts

As previously said if you're using magldr you need to be booted into Android before the phone will charge. You can try to warm the battery up in your hands to squeeze the last bit of power out of it to boot up. Or there are standalone hd2 battery charges you can buy from eBay that charge your battery outside of the phone, they're pretty cheap.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

As Samuel said you can charge phone in bootloader. Just try!

Had to buy external charger
item # M00366 this charger was cheap has led's that change from red to blue as the battery charges and has a usb port so you can charge a battery in phone at the same time.
I'd been alternating tween an extended battery and the original when my HD2 started discharging while plugged in. same batteries and nearly a year of typhoon's excellent ROM progression then wham dead batteries....