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AAAHHHHH this phone stinks!!!!!!!!

WHY DOSN'T Activesync work?????
I can put up with Activesync not working under VPC on my Mac but I CANNOT put up with it not Activesyncing with a brand new 2 month old IBM laptop running XP Pro and all the latest patches.
Is it the phone that is at fault or Microsoft or a combination?????
My old PDA2K Activesyncs fine on BOTH VPC and the IBM so why not this device?
Anyone PLEASE HELP ME.......
Robin

Are you using ActiveSync v.4.1?
If it is a Windows Mobile 5 device (Wizard, Universal) instead of a Windows Mobile 2003SE Device, you need a minimum version 4.1 of ActiveSync

Yup it is a Wizard and I am using AS 4.1.
I have tried Firewall on, off, VPN on, off.
I have de-installed and re-installed 4.1.
Still NOTHING.
The Laptop see's new hardware, says it has installed okay and then AS does NOTHING.!!!!!!!!
Robin

in my case it was the firewall
you sure both your windows and software firewall is off?
also check in network connections that your phone network connection is connected
what happens in activesync... errors? does it display its trying to sync ? just "it is not syncing" doesnt help

If the laptop sees the device as new hardware and not the actual device it means that you do not have active Synch 4.1 or that the installation was borked . because 4.1 includes the drivers for this phone to be recognized by windows.. so if you had 4.1 it would show your phone name and then it might not have worked , but not the way you are describing it now.
Also you might wanna put up a bit more objective title when posting something like this if you want psotive feedback instead of flamez...

very good point avocaz
totally missed the point that it does detect but possibly does not install which would be down the active sync 4.1 not being there

akash84 said:
in my case it was the firewall
you sure both your windows and software firewall is off?
also check in network connections that your phone network connection is connected
what happens in activesync... errors? does it display its trying to sync ? just "it is not syncing" doesnt help
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1. Certainly I turned off the Windows Firewall, don't know about any other Firewall. HOWEVER the fact my PDA2K can connect surely rules out a Firewall problem?
2. Don't know how to do this? I am a Mac user and am using XP JUST to sync my phone.
3. Nothing happens in Activesync. I get the normal, bing bong chime. but the AS icon does not turn green or open.
If I manually open AS and tellit to cennect it cannot find an attached PDA.
On the other hand if I attach my PDA2K I get the bing bong, the icon turns green, AS opens fine.
Is that clearer?
Is there any more info you need?
Robin

akash84 said:
very good point avocaz
totally missed the point that it does detect but possibly does not install which would be down the active sync 4.1 not being there
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But surely the fact that when I connect my PDA2K AS 4.1 opens and works indicates it IS there and working?
If I check its version it says 4.1?
AS 4.1 is the first instal of AS on this machine, never had an earlier version on it.
Sorry about the title but I guessed I would at least get some response with it. :lol:
I am pulling my hair out here and don't want to return the phone but without a computer connection it is totally useless to me.
Robin

Its not your desktop. Its the AS client on the device itself that causes these problems. Apparently, the next ROM Update is supposed to fix all AS issues. Just hold on till mid-Jan.

universaldoc said:
Its not your desktop. Its the AS client on the device itself that causes these problems. Apparently, the next ROM Update is supposed to fix all AS issues. Just hold on till mid-Jan.
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Sounds reasonable HOWEVER if I cannot get the damn thing to connect to a PC I am never going to be able to laod the new rom to fix the problem it won't connect to a pc, so I won't be able to connect ot a PC ...........
I am losing it big time...
How would I install the update without a PC connection?
Robin

Use the wifi to download the rom ? Sorry your having problems but this phone definately doesnt stink. Havent put mine down since Christmas day .... the wife is definately not pleased. She keeps giving it daggers :lol:

Okay
My FIRST bit of success.
I found out my laptop has a IRD port and the phone HAS connected via this so it is most certainly a USB issue.
Now the question is can a rom update be done of IRD or does it need to be the USB connection?
Robin
PS WiFI download would not help as the rom needs to be loaded FROM a PC.

Just a thought, but are you connecting via a usb hub?
Best not to, and I find always using the same usb socket also helps...

Robster said:
WHY DOSN'T Activesync work?????
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Had the same problem.
What helped me is: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/support/pocketpc/tshoot/activesync/default.asp
Good luck,
Radek

DO NOT INSTALL ROM UPDATE VIA IR.
It should be done via USB ONLY. Thats one of the main instructions in the ROM update page that pops up on executing the RU file.

I had problems because of the ports. AS4.X needs a hand full of ports to communicate with the PPC, in my case TCP Port 990 was already in use.

B744 said:
Just a thought, but are you connecting via a usb hub?
Best not to, and I find always using the same usb socket also helps...
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No, I am connecting dirtectly to the laptop.
Robin

S0NIC said:
I had problems because of the ports. AS4.X needs a hand full of ports to communicate with the PPC, in my case TCP Port 990 was already in use.
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HOw do I check this, I am not very PC Literate.
I am much more used to a Mac where things normally 'just work' :?

I have just noticed a couple of things following some of the Microsoft trouble shooting guide.
If I have AS open on the KJAM it shows the spinning green button and that it is trying to connect, still nothing on the PC end.
HOWEVER what I did notice on the PC end in Device Manager is that a Windows mobile-based device appears under netowrk connectors.
So SOME KIND of connection IS happening.
Robin
PS Many thanks for being a sounding board for me and your helpful ideas, it is very much appreciated, I just wish I was making more progress.

Let me set the record straight.
This phone does NOT stink. The more I use it the more I like it.
Certainly it is a big improvement over my PDA2K in size and usability.
HOWEVER I still cannot get it to connect to my laptop and I am getting so frustrated cause its the last thing left for me before I really start to LIKE this phone..............
Any more ideas out there because I have tried everything I can think of with no luck at all except via IRDA.
Robin

WM5 - Activesync issues - surely it can't be just me?

I have had 3 XDA Execs and two XDA Mini S devices.
I have connected them to a Toshiba laptop running the latest firmware and Windows XP SP2.
I have connected them to a Dell desktop running the latest firmware and Windows 2000 SP4.
In every case, I experienced the following issue - Activesync is unreliable. It will sometimes connect and do a full sync, but more often will fail part way through connecting.
Usually, it will fail to notice that the device has connected at all.
A reboot will usually make the Activesync start to work, but usually the connection is broken before the sync can complete.
I have tried the following:
Disable Windows firewall (no change)
Ensure no other personal firewalls are present (there weren't).
Use ActiveSync 4.1 and 4.0 (no change).
It is now at the point where my current Mini S can't even stay connected long enough to install Microsoft Reader.
3 colleagues with Dell laptops and Minis / Exec devices have also experienced the exact same issue.
Am I really the only one to have expeienced this chronic unreliability issue?

MTU
There are some partially obscure references to the MTU size on the network interface that is created for the Windows Mobile device. Seemingly the default is a whopping 8000 but problems occur with anything over 5000 in practice.
I used DrTCP to identify and set my interfaces to 5000 and this improved stability somewhat but it is still a bit touch and go. Have been too busy to play with winding it down lower but I rather think this would help. I would certainly recommend that you give this a try.
Hope this helps!

Thanks, I'll give that a go. 8000? Usually a TCP/IP MTU is more like 1500... [FX: shakes head]

Usually a TCP/IP MTU is 1492

Hi. I've had problems also with activesync with my XDAII (running WM2005c) and my laptop. I've discovered the problems with synching comes when you're using Outlook 2003 and they usually go away when you use Outlook 2002 or earlier.
Hope that helps.

I am using Dopod838 TC version and Outlook2000 SR-1.
I also experienced some Activesync issue when reconnect to PC after the 1st sync-up(1st sync-up from reset always work). At reconnect and sync, my device go really really really slow, I have to do a reset to fix and sync again.
Upgrade to Activesync 4.1 and take care of the port does not help my case as I can sync once without any issues.
Recently i have installed an application call "Card Expert II" which allows me to switch between USB / Activesync mode. I notes CEII fail to switch to USB mode after disconnect from PC, but after sometimes it do. Then I realize probably something at the background of my PPC is still running which cause this issue.
I try to figure out what in between could help release the sync and at last I figure out if I check the SMS/Email on my today screen and close it again.... Card Expert can switch between USB/Sync mode again. I repeat the same trick and now it can sync without issue ....... Now I am 100% confidence my device will sync again after disconnect from PC.
Now whenever before I connect to PC, I would just click and close the SMS/Email on today screen... It's a bit annoying but this save me from reseting my device each time i try to re-sync up my device. Hope this help.

I have had the same problem with sync., the solution for me is to reboot my PC. So the problem must be there, and I have no clue how to solve it...

My solution is to sync once, then do every other sync via Bluetooth, avoiding the dodgy IP over USB implementation entirely.
Maybe ActiveSync 4.2 will fix it...

End of my tether with Activesync 4.1

Is there a credible alternative to Activesnc 4.1 anywhere ? I am absolutely sick and tired of this cr*p.
I want to be able to sync calendar, tasks, notes and files - reliably. That's all. That's not too much to ask is it?
Any ideas ?
TIA, DBo.

I'd be interested in one, been looking for a day or two but pretty new to the PPC thing and not making much progress.
Atm the only surefire way to ActiveSync seems to be, soft reset before sync, again after. It's quite a 1 shot deal, once it's synced, it won't again without a soft reset of the PDA. Note: Never needed to restart the PC used, I have tried this, no difference.

Have you read this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41955&highlight=activesync+solution
Solved that problem for me.

reading the other post now ... my activesync kills itself too i need to reboot my pc to make it work again ... apart from that it wont even synch all my contact ... it misses out random ones all the time

Can't tweak my TCP settings
I'd love to do this, but I can't go messing about with the TCP settings on my company laptop. Not if I want to keep my job.
I need a decent alternative to AS 4.1 even if that means AS 4.2

Silentz:
Yeah, tried that (amongst several hundred other things). I already use DrTCP for optimising my lans due to me using gigE with jumbo packets, so am pretty familiar with it on that ground. I also tried many other reg tweaks (on the PC not PPC) regarding networking etc. to no avail.
From all the tests and tweaks I've done I'm no further into solving this issue, which doesn't half stick in my side. PC m$ os with m$ software talking to a PPC with m$ os with m$ software, who the hell is writing this utter drivvle software?
I have concluded however that the PC / ActiveSync 4.1 side of things does not fail or lockup, regardless of reboots or no reboots or net settings used. It is the PPC's running ActiveSync which borks, stalls then grinds to a halt. I suppose it's possible m$ will fix the PC 4.1 software to not bust the PPC but I've also pretty much resided myself to needing a ROM update to fix the PPC half
This of all things annoys me, I've fixed almost everything else wrong with this phone but turning it off on a regular basis just takes the biscuit, like who does that nowadays? :roll:

Yeah that's right - it's the PPC which goes funky, but in my case it was down to the PC (i think) cramming data at it.
If you switch off (untick) all elements of the today screen it also works better, although that's not really a solution!
Microsoft do need to release ActiveSync 4.2 asap.

Yeah, tried all that, I only have MSN on today page anyways but have tried it with nothing. I only sync contacts anyway and even then only about 100 - still hangs if not the first time...

What about this?

Device Manager
Hi,
I was successful in resolving a "stubborn" active Sync, by doing the following:
Remove USB Cable to K-jam.
Open device manager.
Go to Network adapters.
Disabling adapter called: "Windows Mobile Based Device".
Re-enabling adapter called: "Windows Mobile Based Device".
Plugging USB cable back in.
Kind regards
Adrian

I was successful in resolving a "stubborn" active Sync, by doing the following
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But for how long?
I find that AS is very unstable.
I have installed the latest ROM and still get problems with both my devices.
If I play an MP3 in Windows Media Player, AS drops the connection and I have to unplug my MDA Vario (or my XDA Mini S) and reconnect it again.
If I soft reset for any reason while still connected to AS, it drops the connection and on re-connect it hangs at 'Looking for changes' and I have to re boot the PC to get a connection again.
Other times without warning it will drop the connection and not re-connect without a re-boot of the PC
etc. etc etc.
Fortunately all my contacts, calendar and tasks are held on my PC in Thunderbird (I don't use Outlook) and I have a seperate sync programme for syncing them so I don't need to rely on AS for data sync.
But I do wish there was an alternative for enabling the connection to the PC.

Active Sync problem when syncing from a different comuter

Hi all.
I had ActiveSync setup back in California on my computer, but now that I am at my parents place and have been trying to setup activesync on there computer to sync with my mda.
I had no problems back in Cali, but now when I load ActiveSync and connect the device, etc. it says that device is not connected and therefore I cannot sync. When I plug the device the computer recongizes that there is a windows mobile device, and ActiveSync tries to connect but with no success.
Does anybody know what I should do to fix this problem? I've searched and haven't really found anything specific to my problems, and I really need to be able to sync my mda for I won't be going back to my computer for a while.
Thanx alot
peter

I'd suspect a firewall issue. Use this guide from Microsoft to troubleshoot ActiveSync 4.0/4.1/4.2 USB Connection Troubleshooting Guide
Good luck!

I've already troubleshooted, and we're talking about the firewall for my internet, right? Because if thats the case I've already disabled the firewall for all of my connections. Would there be other types of firewall that I should be aware of?
*I've tried it on another computer in the house, and I get the same problem. It recongizes a windows mobile device is connected, but it won't pick up the usb connection through activesync.
Thanx again

I am having the EXACT same problem... Does anyone know how to fix it???

Does anyone know how to fix it???

i m having the same problem
hi
i upgrade form 1.6 to 2.2, rom available at t-mobile
its fast but active sync turns green then turn off
nothing happenes
the older 1.6 rom was workin fine

well im still having this problem, so if anybody knows who how to fix it im in need of help.
btw... i haven't upgraded my rom yet.
thanx alot

try file/delete mobile device in activesync and see if it still does it.

Anymore tips??? I havent been able to sync for 2 weeks now!!!!!!!!!

I am having the same problem with my MDA. My 8125 never had this problem its quite the PITA.

May not help...
You may have already tried all this...
First, don't use Activesync 4.2. Uninstall it, reboot, and install 4.1. I couldn't get sync with two PCs with 4.2. Removing it is a nuisance since it starts automatically and doesn't have an off selection; I use activesynctoggle.exe to turn it off. I keep activesync around since activesync problems sometimes can be fixed by turning it off and on again.
Second, if you are running zonealarm or another firewall, the procedure for permitting sync is more complicated; see e.g.
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/raj/ZA.html
Third, remove the connection from the PC (on activesync, File/Remove Connections) and from the PPC (run activesync when not connected and remove), remove activesync from the PC and reinstall, and start fresh. Use a USB cable and don't mess with Bluetooth -- it is *much* more sensitive, as I found out painfully.
Good luck. It is really amazing that microsoft can't make software that syncs two microsoft operating systems, when Palm can make software that syncs windows with the palm OS reliably. Activesync is one of the worst programs I have ever encountered, and the release of 4.2, which seems to work less well than 4.1, is astounding.

Well my device stopped recognizinig my sim car yesterday so my device is worthless.

DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING THAT CAN HELP!!!!?!?!?! I HAVENT SYNCED IN 25 DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!

A little more info please. Saying you have the exact same problem isn't enough! (trust me, no two people or computers have the same problems, exactly)
Please post what you're doing, AS version, ROM version... actually anything that might help us possibly help you.

When I connect my 8125 to my computer activesync doesnt recognize it on the computer or the pocket pc. But yet it still makes the chime noise. Im am still able to charge it on my computer, but activesync says "no connection"
ROM version 2.25.11.1 WWE
ROM date: 5/11/06
Radio version 02.25.11
Protocol version 4.1.13.12
ExtROM version 2.25.11.102

Did you even try the suggestions I made?
Rjp20 said:
When I connect my 8125 to my computer activesync doesnt recognize it on the computer or the pocket pc. But yet it still makes the chime noise. Im am still able to charge it on my computer, but activesync says "no connection"
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I have had a similar problem and solved it with those procedures. Activesync is unreasonably sensitive and sometimes removing the program and connection and starting over seems necessary; then it will work until some setting or other gets messed up.

I'm having a similar issue but when I connect my T-Mobile Vario II (HTC Hermes) it starts the process but as soon as it's about to start syncing my PC reboots. I've just got a new laptop and it syncs fine. I've been using ActiveSync for many years and this is the first time I've had this issue. I've also got an Orange SPV C500 (can't remember which HTC device that is) but it's a smartphone and it still syncs fine.
I don't have any software firewall enabled as I'm behind a hardware one. I've looked round the web but no-one seems to have this issue that the system reboots.
Any ideas? I've re-installed ActiveSync, I've not tried removing the partnerships off the device yet but I don't think it's even created on. I've tried repairing Outlook but that didn't help. I may try re-installing Outlook but that is a bit of a last resort.
Thanks in advance,
Rob.

I also had a no connection when I first connect to new computer....
Check the network connections, there should be a new network connection created for the computer/pda, check the properties and make sure all checkboxes are selected.
Mine wasn't ticked in the beginning, and was able to sync after I selected all the boxes...

WeeeRob said:
Any ideas? I've re-installed ActiveSync, I've not tried removing the partnerships off the device yet but I don't think it's even created on. I've tried repairing Outlook but that didn't help. I may try re-installing Outlook but that is a bit of a last resort.
Rob.
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Windows XP has an event viewer (Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Event Viewer) that can probably tell you what took down your system. That would help isolate the problem - maybe.

Nothing so far... Does anyone else have any tips...

Connecting to Activesync but not able to Sync

I am having a problem syncing with activesync, and i must think the problem is due to a drop i had the other day. It made the miniUSB port...smaller seemingly, although the cable still fits in (be it very snugly now). i can still charge it in the wall, and it shows "connected" on activesync when plugged into the pc and the amber light comes on every time. However activesync quickly gives me a message that "synchronization cannot be completed successfully, please remove device and try again or open the troubleshooter"
I'm not sure if i should just start to look for a different way to back up files via PIM or others and move on without activesync ...flash using microSD from now on? consider replacing the port (not even sure how much effort that is, or if it's possible yet)
Or is there anything simple i can try that i haven't done yet? TIA
EDIT: I Have tried unistalling and reinstalling Activesync and even dl'd latest version of AS again

How about deleting the sync partnership with ActiveSync, reestablishing the partnership and then seeing if you are able to sync?

have you tried syncing via bluetooth, then at least you would know its the usb port that is the problem, you say the connection is tight when you insert the cable, are you sure that nothing else is lodged in there when you dropped it?

well, it doesn't look like there's anything in there from what i can tell...the metal actually looks bent or mangled just a bit. Unfortunately my lappy does not have BT, so i can't try that. good thought though

Well if i was you i would invest in a bluetooth dongle for your laptop ,that way you should still be able to sync, and flash via sd card. That way you will have the problem sorted to a degree. Have you tried flashing another rom via cable btw. You say it connects via active sync. I would do a backup using spb backup or something similar and reflash the device and see if that fixes the sync issue. Try a cooked rom first, if that doesnt work try an original rom.
The only reason i mention the cooked rom to flash first is that it is quicker

I've had the same problem where active sync wasn't recognizing my phone.....that is until I soft reset'd my phone while still connected to pc...usually works for me.
another solution..on phone goto:
Settings->Connections->USB-to-PC->Advanced Network Functionality
on... I turned it off. I haven't had a random disconnect, nor PC crash.

A soft reset did the trick for me.

Dillsnik said:
Or is there anything simple i can try that i haven't done yet?
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If you have a card reader, copy this - http://toril.ru/pda/akrndisadd.exe - onto the phone and run it there. It works every time my phone decides to stop talking to the PC.
Geoff

I am having Syncing issues, last night, has been fine until now.
Did all the deleting partnerships etc but to no avail.
The phone sync's fine with my Work PC(XP) but at home(Vista) its not,
the error 0x?????107 (from memory, will update when i get home)

Exact error: 0x86000107

Hi,
I am having a strange problem with Active Sync.
When I plug in my mobile with USB and use active sync. it does not synchornise.
I have tried all the options liek chaning schedule, changing the settings and diabling advanced network functionality still I am not able to make the diamond synchronise.
Finally, I download the active sync. 4.5 even then my problem remains the same.
It always shows the message "connected" and fails to synchronise.
thanks for any help..

connecting to activesync, buy no able to sync
Hello to everyone.
I have the same problem with my new Diamond. It have synced in the passed, but now I get the same 1 error and code 0x00089107. Can anyone help to fix it, please. Many thanks Tori

bigsteve said:
Exact error: 0x86000107
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I had the same error.
Solution:
Just add this:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services]
"WCESMGR Windowplacement"="0,1,-1,-1,-1,-1,0,0,0,0"
in windows xp registry.
Error is no longer appeared when I connect t32 (WM6) with my pc.

Doing both things in post #6 worked for my TyTN. This trouble started only after I plugged my phone into a Vista laptop to use it as a modem. Gotta love Vista.... (smile)
Thank you for the help, and thank goodness for this forum!

cristiano67 said:
I had the same error.
Solution:
Just add this:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services]
"WCESMGR Windowplacement"="0,1,-1,-1,-1,-1,0,0,0,0"
in windows xp registry.
Error is no longer appeared when I connect t32 (WM6) with my pc.
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I have Vista Home Premium....

try pluggin your mobile directly into a usb port on the back of your pc and not through a hub
mine did this now it works 100% of the time

bigsteve said:
cristiano67 said:
I had the same error.
Solution:
Just add this:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services]
"WCESMGR Windowplacement"="0,1,-1,-1,-1,-1,0,0,0,0"
in windows xp registry.
Error is no longer appeared when I connect t32 (WM6) with my pc.
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I have Vista Home Premium....
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I have Vista Ultimate 64 and I usually resolve this just in the way I posted in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2827500&postcount=7
Best Regards