Network Loss - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi,
I've got an M3100 flashed to the SA Tytn ROM and after recently it seems to have had problems staying on a network. When I start it up it finds the network and connects for a while but then looses it (the exclamation mark next to the signal indicator) and refuses to find it again. The only way to get it to connect is to go into phone settings and tell it to refresh the network.
Any ideas as to what could be causing this?
Many thanks!

I was having a similar problem with my new Jasjam (HT 647xxx).
The factory installed ROM had a radio version 1.21.31.10 and the rom date was 8th september 2006.
Quite strangely the latest ROM available on the i-mate site is dated 21st July 2006 and has a radio version 1.07.03.10.
Since I have downgraded to the ROM available on the i-mate site it seems my problems are over. Maybe the ROM you have installed has a faulty radio rom.
Regards

Well I've got 1.18.00.10 as my radio version and I've had it for a while without any problems.

Just a couple of very routine things to be sure of (perhaps before going into Radio versions etc)
1. That the device is set to best performance not best battery under the network settings
2. The range is not great for wifi 10-15 metres at best so just to be sure your in good range. I know when I'm on the periphery of signal it connects fine but drops signal fairly often.
Cheers
Mike

Sorry, I should have made it clear that the problem is with the cellular network.

Sorry to bump this, but has anyone got any ideas? A full reflash of the device doesn't seem to have done anything so I'm beginning to worry that this is a hardware problem...

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Which HTC Universal Radio version is the best?

Currently,
I'm using the Radio version 1.04.20 on my Dopod 900 (HTC Universal). However, my reception is not too good and it usually takes some time for my phone to catch on with the network after a hard/soft reset.
Can anyone recommend which Radio version is the best so far, in terms of reception strength and stability?
Many thanks!
If you don't use Universal while driving, change to 1.08.00, otherwise stay as you are (this is my opinion).
1.08.00 seems to have some problems with the handover between GSM cells.
using 1.6 without any pb at the moment
1.08.00 gave me problems switching between WiFi and GPRS connections only remedied with soft resets, blah...I went back to 1.06.
I just upgraded to 1.06.00. There is less delay in connecting when I answer the phone.
I see. Many thanks.
So it seems that Radio 1.06.00 is the most stable then?
Another question, the updates for Radio version, are they all generic for all HTC Universal sets, or must I find one specifically customised for my Dopod 900?
Hi,
You should be able the flash the rom into your Dopod without any problem. I have an Exec and have flashed the radio rom (1.06) last week that come from T-mobile in Germany. Nothing to complain about it yet! Works great! Check out the below link. You will be able to download the radio from there and lots of FAQs in there.
Hope this will be useful for you!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38954
Regards,
Johnnie
johnnie82 said:
Hi,
You should be able the flash the rom into your Dopod without any problem. I have an Exec and have flashed the radio rom (1.06) last week that come from T-mobile in Germany. Nothing to complain about it yet! Works great! Check out the below link. You will be able to download the radio from there and lots of FAQs in there.
Hope this will be useful for you!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38954
Regards,
Johnnie
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I have flashed bmy Dopod 900 it is much better than 1.04.20 after upgrade i do not have any calls gettting dropped / It rings with in 3 rings & blue tooth audio quality is also much better strongly recco it.
Conchas said:
If you don't use Universal while driving, change to 1.08.00, otherwise stay as you are (this is my opinion).
1.08.00 seems to have some problems with the handover between GSM cells.
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Interestingly, I would say that I've noticed the opposite with regard to data - 1.06 seems to drop a data connection on the move, more than 1.08.
Cheers,
Steve.

Orange Swiss GPRS

Update 20060509
If I go on Phone/Options/Network and press Find Network then it finds GPRS signal again and works for some time.
Does anybody know whether there is a way to create a shortcut to it?
Thanks!
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Sorry for posting a "local" subject but can't find answers elsewhere.
I upgraded to:
ROM 2.17.7.2 WWE
Radio version 02.07.10
Before being Orange i could test with another provider and everything worked fine.
After being Orange, i get GPRS signal and later i loose it, being always in the same place, just as time goes by. If i reset, hence reconnect, then GPRS signal and phone signals are great.
Battery is always at good level and it happens while charging too.
I thought was an Orange problem, but signal is very good immediately after reset.
Did anybody experience same problem and found a reason or a solution, apart from leaving Orange?
Thanks!
Orange disconnects automatically users from the GPRS network since about 18 months. This is because their systems are outdated and can not cope with the demand.

Unable to Make / Receive Calls on Jasjam

I bought my Jasjam 5 days ago. I am having a problem that sometimes people cannot call me. When they make an attempt to call me they get the message that the phone is off-line.
When the phone is in this state I cannot make calls either although I can see the "G" icon as well as the signal bars. The dialer shows "Dialing....." for a few seconds and then cuts out.
This does not happen all the time but say once or twice a day.
Things become okay when I soft reset my phone.
Just wanted to know if anyone else has experienced a similar problem and if there are any solutions. This is very annoying as you are so uncertain that you may not be accessible and you don't even know of that.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Kind Regards
I wonder whether it's worth trying to take it off automatic band selection and choosing GSM only for a day to see if it still has same issue.
Start>SettingsPersonal>Phone icon>Band and selecting GSM in both drop down boxes. In second drop down list it'll be the GSM band for your area or test on each to see which works.
I suggest the above just in case you have the dropped line due to auto swapping between GSM and UMTS issue.
Mike
I seem to have solved the problem of the radio silently switching itself off without me knowing and so risking unnoticed missed calls.
The ROM version supplied from the factory with my Jasjam (HT647xxx) is as follows:-
ROM Version: 1.31.305.2
ROM Date: 8th September 2006
Radio Version: 1.21.31.10
Protocol Version: 32.53.7020.01H
Ext ROM Version: 1.31.305.104
Bootloader Version:1.06
Strangely the I-Mate site at this point states the latest ROM available for download is:
ROM Version: 1.20.305.3
ROM Date: 21st July 2006
Radio Version: 1.07.03.10
Protocol Version: 32.41.1010.02H
Ext ROM Version: 1.20.305.104
Bootloader Version:1.04
So I flashed my Jasjam with the ROM of 21st July 2006 downloaded from the I-Mate site.
For the last two or three days since I have downgraded the ROM the problem of radio switching itself off seems to have disappeared.
Just wondering if I-Mate are aware of the problem with the ROM currently being shipped with new devices and so decided the keep the old ROM for download on their website.
I will continue checking and report if I see the problem reappearing.
I thought to share this information in case it is useful for any one of us.
Regards
srmz said:
I bought my Jasjam 5 days ago. I am having a problem that sometimes people cannot call me. When they make an attempt to call me they get the message that the phone is off-line.
When the phone is in this state I cannot make calls either although I can see the "G" icon as well as the signal bars. The dialer shows "Dialing....." for a few seconds and then cuts out.
This does not happen all the time but say once or twice a day.
Things become okay when I soft reset my phone.
Just wanted to know if anyone else has experienced a similar problem and if there are any solutions. This is very annoying as you are so uncertain that you may not be accessible and you don't even know of that.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Kind Regards
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i seem to be 2 years late on this post but if you're still around - did you manage to solve this problem? I'm having the exact same one!
xhughx said:
i seem to be 2 years late on this post but if you're still around - did you manage to solve this problem? I'm having the exact same one!
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Yeah, I have same problem with an Orange SPV M3100... Two different maintaince office said "we have no idea" in Hungary...
Please, If you have an idea, share with us...
Try changing the os, thats what the OP did and no more problems reported...
ultramag69 said:
Try changing the os, thats what the OP did and no more problems reported...
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I already changed the rom 6 times, to 6 different roms (official, boiled, WM5.0, 6.0, 6.1), but nothing happened... I already try to change radio rom only to a different and back to the original. But nothing...
The last service said "the hardware is ok", they measured everything.
The problem is that the phone connect to the tower, but after 1 minute lost the connection, but show me the full signal level and I'm unavailable. At the first call that I make it show me an "operation failed" message and reconnect...
I think it sounds more like a radio ROM issue than an OS ROM. I had similar issues until I found a radio ROM that worked for me.
rmcknight said:
I think it sounds more like a radio ROM issue than an OS ROM. I had similar issues until I found a radio ROM that worked for me.
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Hi, thanks for your answer. I had change my OS ROM and Radio ROM to your settings
IPL 1.04/ SPL: Hard-SPL V7 2.10.OLIPRO
Radio 1.48.00.00
Rom Version:Josh's Manilla2D v15
But nothing...
Please help me, my Dopod 838 Pro has No GSM!
This sounds similar to the problem's I'm having with my Sony Ericsson X1. It started a couple of weeks ago, seemingly spontaneously. I had been running the same firmware (generic UK R3AA010) for quite a while with no problems (at least more than usual with the X1) but suddenly one day these symptoms show up:
People who try to call me get an "unavailable" tone. If they try again it works fine
If I try to call someone, it just silently fails the first time. If I try again it works fine
So it seems that the phone gets disconnected form the network somehow. It can't just be that the phone network looses track of where the phone is (in which cell), since it affects outgoing calls as well.
I've tried this with two different SIM cards from different operators with identical results.
I've tried a couple of other firmware versions with no help. If anyone can help with information on this I'd be very grateful.
There's no way I can use a phone that people can't reach me on, but I can't stand the thought of throwing a fairly expensive phone in the trash.
exactly same problem here. I figured out that switching off the phone function in comm manager and then switching it back on does the trick without soft-reset, but I don't need to explain to you how annoying it is... I've already changed 4 OS roms and 2 radio roms with no result... I'd appreciate any suggestion very much.

Does your Trinity/Dopod drop calls regularly?

My Dopod D810 from 3 drops calls regularly.
I think every single call will drop out after about 1-2 minutes. I also notice that when my phone is 'warm' from charging or other uses, the call can drop as quickly as 10 seconds into the call.
Initially it was suggested that the drop outs were due to my Phone > Band selection being set to 'Auto' but I have since changed this to Network Type=WCDMA and GSM/UMTS band=UMTS(2100+800).
But now I'm more inclined to think it has something to do with the device's temperature....
Any other ideas other than taking it back to 3?
Try changing the Radio ROM.
I had a similar problem after changing my Radio ROM from 1.41.00.11 to 1.46.00.11. Now I`m using 1.46.30.11 version and everything is OK. I even noticed a GPS signal level improvement.
I have the similar problem too. I m with 3 Australia. Upgraded to WM6 official ROM, still observing if call drop still happened.
If not, will take back for warranty repair
I am using a HTC-branded P3600 with the official HTC GPS-enabled WM5 ROM on the Vodafone UK network. With reasonable approximation I can say that I have 0 dropped calls (including calls made or received while in car).
My network type and band selections are both "auto".
Sometimes I make calls while the phone is charging via USB from a laptop (which makes it rather warm) but I haven't noticed any dropped calls in that situation either.
Radashka said:
Try changing the Radio ROM.
I had a similar problem after changing my Radio ROM from 1.41.00.11 to 1.46.00.11. Now I`m using 1.46.30.11 version and everything is OK. I even noticed a GPS signal level improvement.
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Excellent idea. I'm currently using Radio version: 1.35.00.11...if I go to 1.4x - are these compatible with WM5?
anonimo said:
I am using a HTC-branded P3600 with the official HTC GPS-enabled WM5 ROM on the Vodafone UK network. With reasonable approximation I can say that I have 0 dropped calls (including calls made or received while in car).
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Thank you anonimo - what radio version are you using?
BlackBeauty said:
Excellent idea. I'm currently using Radio version: 1.35.00.11...if I go to 1.4x - are these compatible with WM5?
Thank you anonimo - what radio version are you using?
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I`m using a WM5 LVSW edition. Used it with 1.41.00.11 for 3 months without problems, changed to 1.46.00.11 for 2 days and encountered call drop issue, changed to 1.46.30.11 and not even a problem so far.
I am using my trinity with 1.41 and WM6 (AX3L) and I really never drop a call unless I step into an elevator. I am usually on UMTS or HSDPA living here in NYC and cannot complain about my service nor the phone.
BlackBeauty said:
Excellent idea. I'm currently using Radio version: 1.35.00.11...if I go to 1.4x - are these compatible with WM5?
Thank you anonimo - what radio version are you using?
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I'm using version 1.35.00.11
Thanks for all the replies. Went ahead and upgraded ROM and Radio version to 3.00.707.16 and 1.46.30.11, respectively.
So far, no problems with call dropouts but I haven't made many long calls on it over the last 2 days but will keep assessing.
On the previous incarnation, I had also installed/uninstalled a LOT of programs over the 6 weeks I had had the phone so perhaps that contributed to the phone's instability too...
For me, it kinda worked the other way around...
I never experienced any call droppouts when I still had the original WM5 ROM with radio version 1.33.30.10 on my Dopod D810. (I'm with 3 in Australia)
After upgrading to the ANZ WM6 ROM with radio version 1.46.30.11, I can sometimes not even establish a connection as the call is dropped after the first ring or so. The other day I had to make a call 5 or 6 time to finish the conversation...
Is anybody else having similar issues AFTER upgrading?
Hi guys,
good to see that i'm not the only one that have call drop regularly.
Well, in fact, those are not always call drops.
Sometimes i miss calls and some other times, when i want to make a call, i see that my trinity's loosing the signal and starts to search for networks. Then i have to switch off the phone through the Connection Manager, then turn it on again so that i can make phone calls.
Are you experiencing the same on your device?
I'm still using Radio ROM 1.38.00.11
Do you guys have a link where to download the latest Radio ROM so that i can try it on my Trinity?
Thanks.
boy_in_oz said:
Is anybody else having similar issues AFTER upgrading?
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Yep, I experience drops after upgrading... But the strange thing is... even after downgrading to the shipped rom... still drops... ARRGHHHHHH
I'm just going to try another rom I think... not sure yet. Have switched my band from auto to fixed. First gonna see what happens.
Some said it is due to 3G/3.5G trying to establish a data connection (most likely for push mail) and in doing so the phone function is disabled. I did not verify this claim.
If anyone wants to test it, you might want to try:
1. disabling 3G and 3.5G
2. disabling data connection
and tell us the results!
solitary said:
Some said it is due to 3G/3.5G trying to establish a data connection (most likely for push mail) and in doing so the phone function is disabled. I did not verify this claim.
If anyone wants to test it, you might want to try:
1. disabling 3G and 3.5G
2. disabling data connection
and tell us the results!
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I will disable HSDPA. But I cannot disable my data connection because that's THE reason I bought my device for (using it for pushmail but I can use that with UMTS/GPRS connection also, don't need HSDPA for it).
I have found if I have network on AUTO i cant make calls, phone call drops straight away.
Switching to GSM allows me to make calls, but then I have no 3G
Found that radio rom 1.46.00.11 has no calls dropping for me. So I'm gonna stick with that one.
Cheers.
Arilexed said:
Found that radio rom 1.46.00.11 has no calls dropping for me. So I'm gonna stick with that one.
Cheers.
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Just updated to radio rom 1.41.00.11, first few calls on UMTS dropped, then after a reset calls now working.
Arilexed said:
Found that radio rom 1.46.00.11 has no calls dropping for me. So I'm gonna stick with that one.
Cheers.
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I have this ROM actually installed in my Trinity, and i still have call drops regularly
Once more today, it started to ring, then lost signal.
I'm wondering how much people has the same issue.
I used to have the same problem. I've reflashed my phone so many times coz of that.
But it seems like my problem's finally fixed
I'm using the most updated PDAVIET wm6 rom with Radio: 1.50.08.11
Been using that for about 2 weeks, haven't had a call drop since.
However I have had a few hangs here and there.
I run a lot of apps so the memory is pretty low most of the time. Yet for some reason I'm not getting any call drops so I'm happy. (Finally able to talk for like 15 mins without breaking up)
just fyi i'm also with 3, and don't have that band setting since I luv HSDPA yet certain areas only got Telstra reception...
Calls drop out
Hi, I'm in Sydney with 3 and haven't had any problems at all with the shipped WM5. After upgrading to the latest official WM6 ROM version 3.00.707.18 from the Dopd site things went bad with phone calls and weak signals.
Now upgraded the Radio to version 1.50.08.11 and everything's back to how it 's supposed to be.
Cheers and good luck.

signal issue

Is there anything to rectify the signal issues on the niki?
I have touch which has fine signal and dual which always loses signal gms and 3g.
they are both in the same place and i get drop outs from one second to the next.
I dont think i am running a special rom other than the original orange uk rom. i could be wrong mind...
same issue here
i am running nikki,s rom now and have tryed every radio on my mda touch plus but signal is very bad al the time with every radio version i think it is a issue off this phone or does anybody have tips to improve signal.

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