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Problem with Wizard -> GPRS and receiving calls

Dear technically gifted people,
I have recently purchased the Wizard (i-mate k-jam) and have the following three problems:
1. Sometimes the phone does not receive calls and they go directly to voicemail, even though I am in an area where all mobiles work and the phone shows full reception.
2. If reset the device or turn on/off flight mode, the device has no problem connecting to GPRS/EDGE (provider MTS/Russia), but after some time it drops the connection and cannot reconnect until next reset.
3. Flight mode switch does not always work. Have to turn it on 2-3 times before phone responds and turns the phone back on.
If someone would be kind enough to help me resolve them I would greatly appreciate it. I recently upgraded to the new ROM (the one posted on the clubimate site in March) but it did not seem to help the issue.
Regards,
egrib

i have the same problem! Have to turn it off and then back on again, very annoying!
Do you think turning the voicemail off will sort it out? I dont really have any need for it anyway

could be SIM related.
My wizard showed the same instability. I needed to reboot every night otherwise i would get dropped calls (straight to voice mail) no GRPS access, and the charging wouldn't work. I changed roms etc. What finally did the trick for me is I got my service provider (FIDO in canada) to change my SIM from the 2001 card i had to a current one.
It seems to have done the trick.

From my own experience and from seeing all the posts on this forum it seems like this device is full of bugs and is just not worth the time and money.
As there a similar device out there that actually works and people have no problem using?
Thanks.

egrib said:
1. Sometimes the phone does not receive calls and they go directly to voicemail, even though I am in an area where all mobiles work and the phone shows full reception.
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did you have the same problem with previous handsets in the same area? such problem are quite often caused by network issues not mobile and you should try reporting it to your operator's customer care. however, if such problem persist only on wizard and in various areas, then it's probably problem with mobile...
egrib said:
2. If reset the device or turn on/off flight mode, the device has no problem connecting to GPRS/EDGE (provider MTS/Russia), but after some time it drops the connection and cannot reconnect until next reset.
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you mean [G] icon on top of screen? well, this is a feature of this model, that after some time it detaches from GPRS, so [G] icon disappears. however if you'll try to connect to internet through GPRS, it will attach again and connect, so i wouldn't be so much concerned about it.
egrib said:
3. Flight mode switch does not always work. Have to turn it on 2-3 times before phone responds and turns the phone back on.
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i've had the same problem, but i noticed that it just needs a bit of time for phone to switch on again. so when you're trying to switch off flight mode, tap it once and wait a bit. it should turn on after a while. at least it works this way with me..

eva_d,
I think you are entirely correct on point 3 - flight mode switch takes some time.
As for the other points, I don't think they are as easily resolved. When the phone does not receive phone calls (and calls go straight to voicemail) it does not seem to be a carrier problem since 1. i never had this problem with the same card in a different mobile and 2. once it stops receiving calls it continues to do so until a reset, regardless of where I am located.
The GPRS issue - i know what you are referring to with regards to the [G] icon (I have it all the time) but once i receive or make a phone call, I cannot reconnect to the internet until i reset the device. Also not a carrier problem. This seems to be an issue with all MTS users in Russia. So far unresolved.
Anyone other ideas anyone? Thanks

It's well known issue (GPRS on MTS Moscow; is your mts is in Moscow?). It was fixed in new ROM, that just was released week ago. Russian version is available.

eva_d said:
egrib said:
1. Sometimes the phone does not receive calls and they go directly to voicemail, even though I am in an area where all mobiles work and the phone shows full reception.
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did you have the same problem with previous handsets in the same area? such problem are quite often caused by network issues not mobile and you should try reporting it to your operator's customer care. however, if such problem persist only on wizard and in various areas, then it's probably problem with mobile....
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I have a kindoff similar problem. Just got my Qtek yesterday and I tried latching to cingular. What happens is when I switch on the phone, it takes forever to latch to the network. I see the
Y.
Y..
Y... going on for ever. In my old phone, just switch it on and there it connects to cingular. I tried doing the manual/automatic network selection and everything but it just takes too much of time to latch on. It finally latches (thank god !) but still its annoying. But once connected, itnever drops off or goes to voice mail. Looks like it has a starting problem
Also, reception wise, it shows less bars then my old phone when I am sitting on the same chair :?
Did anybody face the same problem, or am I the blessed one. Any tweaks or something that can be done ?

I also have problems sometimes connecting to edge/gprs, I think it might have something to do with handshaking accross towers.
I noticed that this happens when I enable TOMTOMTRAFFIC, it will get the traffic the first time I start tomtom, then 15 minutes into driving when it trys to get a traffic update it will not connect to gprs, it will keep dialing and eventually disconnect. Then after a rest, it will connect again but again after about 15 minutes of driving it has the same problem. Pretty annoying.

Vishny,
I am indeed on Moscow MTS. You mention a new ROM that fixes this - are you referring to the ROM that came out early this year (2.16.9.1) ? If so, I did the upgrade (english version) and it did not seem to help. If there is something more recent that fixes the MTS problem, please let me know where I can download it.
Also, are you having and problems with receiving calls? Thanks.

egrib said:
Vishny,
I am indeed on Moscow MTS. You mention a new ROM that fixes this - are you referring to the ROM that came out early this year (2.16.9.1) ? If so, I did the upgrade (english version) and it did not seem to help. If there is something more recent that fixes the MTS problem, please let me know where I can download it.
Also, are you having and problems with receiving calls? Thanks.
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It's 2.18 ROM with new 2.20.11 radio rom. I'm having no problems with calls or GPRS. Now my device is perfect, I love it. Just try it, you can find it here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/HTC Wizard/ROMS/

Thanks vishny - if that will indeed solve the problem.
Few questions, are there any other places to get the files (i am having problems logging into the one you provided).
Also, is this only for a Russian OS or do they have the same for english? Thanks

Guys, could you please advise me how can I download from FTP? It asks for username & password, but my profile's username and passwords wont work.

fmraven said:
Guys, could you please advise me how can I download from FTP? It asks for username & password, but my profile's username and passwords wont work.
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user/pass: xda/xda

eva_d said:
fmraven said:
Guys, could you please advise me how can I download from FTP? It asks for username & password, but my profile's username and passwords wont work.
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user/pass: xda/xda
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Great! Thanx a lot.

And another question. Would QTEK ROM work for K-Jam, or should I wait for official K-Jam ROM update?

fmraven said:
And another question. Would QTEK ROM work for K-Jam, or should I wait for official K-Jam ROM update?
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it will work, but you need to unlock your device first with Lokiwiz or aWizard. search forums, there are lots of posts regarding this.

Thanks for all the help.
One question to Vishny and others - i see the new 2.18 rom update in Russian - does anyone have any idea where I can get it in english?
I assume the GPRS/calls problem lies in the Radio ROM - so another question may be how can i keep my english ROM but update my Radio ROM to one that would work with MTS in Russia?
Many thanks

egrib said:
Thanks for all the help.
One question to Vishny and others - i see the new 2.18 rom update in Russian - does anyone have any idea where I can get it in english?
I assume the GPRS/calls problem lies in the Radio ROM - so another question may be how can i keep my english ROM but update my Radio ROM to one that would work with MTS in Russia?
Many thanks
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There is no english 2.18 rom, because 2.18 solves specific problem with one of operators in Moscow. Some guys make hack, they flash 2.16 i-mate or 2.17 qtek english roms, then flash 2.20.11 "russian" radio rom and then install additional RadioDriver_GPRSStall_Wizard_Mar24.CAB they extract from extrom of 2.18 russian rom.
Look at this:
http://www.qtek-mobile.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2131&start=30

vishny,
i installed the new radio rom onto the latest english i-mate rom and thw wizard finally worked with MTS in Russia without any problems. For that I thank you.
Unfortunately now for some reason once in a while the screen goes dark (as if the device is sleeping, the light is still blinking) and the only thing I can do is reset the device. Any ideas?
Thanks
p.s. why does this thing always have problems and as soon as i solve one, another arises :?

Does your Trinity/Dopod drop calls regularly?

My Dopod D810 from 3 drops calls regularly.
I think every single call will drop out after about 1-2 minutes. I also notice that when my phone is 'warm' from charging or other uses, the call can drop as quickly as 10 seconds into the call.
Initially it was suggested that the drop outs were due to my Phone > Band selection being set to 'Auto' but I have since changed this to Network Type=WCDMA and GSM/UMTS band=UMTS(2100+800).
But now I'm more inclined to think it has something to do with the device's temperature....
Any other ideas other than taking it back to 3?

Try changing the Radio ROM.
I had a similar problem after changing my Radio ROM from 1.41.00.11 to 1.46.00.11. Now I`m using 1.46.30.11 version and everything is OK. I even noticed a GPS signal level improvement.

I have the similar problem too. I m with 3 Australia. Upgraded to WM6 official ROM, still observing if call drop still happened.
If not, will take back for warranty repair

I am using a HTC-branded P3600 with the official HTC GPS-enabled WM5 ROM on the Vodafone UK network. With reasonable approximation I can say that I have 0 dropped calls (including calls made or received while in car).
My network type and band selections are both "auto".
Sometimes I make calls while the phone is charging via USB from a laptop (which makes it rather warm) but I haven't noticed any dropped calls in that situation either.

Radashka said:
Try changing the Radio ROM.
I had a similar problem after changing my Radio ROM from 1.41.00.11 to 1.46.00.11. Now I`m using 1.46.30.11 version and everything is OK. I even noticed a GPS signal level improvement.
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Excellent idea. I'm currently using Radio version: 1.35.00.11...if I go to 1.4x - are these compatible with WM5?
anonimo said:
I am using a HTC-branded P3600 with the official HTC GPS-enabled WM5 ROM on the Vodafone UK network. With reasonable approximation I can say that I have 0 dropped calls (including calls made or received while in car).
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Thank you anonimo - what radio version are you using?

BlackBeauty said:
Excellent idea. I'm currently using Radio version: 1.35.00.11...if I go to 1.4x - are these compatible with WM5?
Thank you anonimo - what radio version are you using?
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I`m using a WM5 LVSW edition. Used it with 1.41.00.11 for 3 months without problems, changed to 1.46.00.11 for 2 days and encountered call drop issue, changed to 1.46.30.11 and not even a problem so far.

I am using my trinity with 1.41 and WM6 (AX3L) and I really never drop a call unless I step into an elevator. I am usually on UMTS or HSDPA living here in NYC and cannot complain about my service nor the phone.

BlackBeauty said:
Excellent idea. I'm currently using Radio version: 1.35.00.11...if I go to 1.4x - are these compatible with WM5?
Thank you anonimo - what radio version are you using?
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I'm using version 1.35.00.11

Thanks for all the replies. Went ahead and upgraded ROM and Radio version to 3.00.707.16 and 1.46.30.11, respectively.
So far, no problems with call dropouts but I haven't made many long calls on it over the last 2 days but will keep assessing.
On the previous incarnation, I had also installed/uninstalled a LOT of programs over the 6 weeks I had had the phone so perhaps that contributed to the phone's instability too...

For me, it kinda worked the other way around...
I never experienced any call droppouts when I still had the original WM5 ROM with radio version 1.33.30.10 on my Dopod D810. (I'm with 3 in Australia)
After upgrading to the ANZ WM6 ROM with radio version 1.46.30.11, I can sometimes not even establish a connection as the call is dropped after the first ring or so. The other day I had to make a call 5 or 6 time to finish the conversation...
Is anybody else having similar issues AFTER upgrading?

Hi guys,
good to see that i'm not the only one that have call drop regularly.
Well, in fact, those are not always call drops.
Sometimes i miss calls and some other times, when i want to make a call, i see that my trinity's loosing the signal and starts to search for networks. Then i have to switch off the phone through the Connection Manager, then turn it on again so that i can make phone calls.
Are you experiencing the same on your device?
I'm still using Radio ROM 1.38.00.11
Do you guys have a link where to download the latest Radio ROM so that i can try it on my Trinity?
Thanks.

boy_in_oz said:
Is anybody else having similar issues AFTER upgrading?
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Yep, I experience drops after upgrading... But the strange thing is... even after downgrading to the shipped rom... still drops... ARRGHHHHHH
I'm just going to try another rom I think... not sure yet. Have switched my band from auto to fixed. First gonna see what happens.

Some said it is due to 3G/3.5G trying to establish a data connection (most likely for push mail) and in doing so the phone function is disabled. I did not verify this claim.
If anyone wants to test it, you might want to try:
1. disabling 3G and 3.5G
2. disabling data connection
and tell us the results!

solitary said:
Some said it is due to 3G/3.5G trying to establish a data connection (most likely for push mail) and in doing so the phone function is disabled. I did not verify this claim.
If anyone wants to test it, you might want to try:
1. disabling 3G and 3.5G
2. disabling data connection
and tell us the results!
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I will disable HSDPA. But I cannot disable my data connection because that's THE reason I bought my device for (using it for pushmail but I can use that with UMTS/GPRS connection also, don't need HSDPA for it).

I have found if I have network on AUTO i cant make calls, phone call drops straight away.
Switching to GSM allows me to make calls, but then I have no 3G

Found that radio rom 1.46.00.11 has no calls dropping for me. So I'm gonna stick with that one.
Cheers.

Arilexed said:
Found that radio rom 1.46.00.11 has no calls dropping for me. So I'm gonna stick with that one.
Cheers.
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Just updated to radio rom 1.41.00.11, first few calls on UMTS dropped, then after a reset calls now working.

Arilexed said:
Found that radio rom 1.46.00.11 has no calls dropping for me. So I'm gonna stick with that one.
Cheers.
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I have this ROM actually installed in my Trinity, and i still have call drops regularly
Once more today, it started to ring, then lost signal.
I'm wondering how much people has the same issue.

I used to have the same problem. I've reflashed my phone so many times coz of that.
But it seems like my problem's finally fixed
I'm using the most updated PDAVIET wm6 rom with Radio: 1.50.08.11
Been using that for about 2 weeks, haven't had a call drop since.
However I have had a few hangs here and there.
I run a lot of apps so the memory is pretty low most of the time. Yet for some reason I'm not getting any call drops so I'm happy. (Finally able to talk for like 15 mins without breaking up)
just fyi i'm also with 3, and don't have that band setting since I luv HSDPA yet certain areas only got Telstra reception...

Calls drop out
Hi, I'm in Sydney with 3 and haven't had any problems at all with the shipped WM5. After upgrading to the latest official WM6 ROM version 3.00.707.18 from the Dopd site things went bad with phone calls and weak signals.
Now upgraded the Radio to version 1.50.08.11 and everything's back to how it 's supposed to be.
Cheers and good luck.

Signal problem in PDA2K..

hey guys...this is my first post here...
my pda2k keeps on dropping signals and sometimes halt during a call...
at first.....as instructed..2 time restarting solved the problem..
can you guys plzz help me out.......im using wm6
thnx in advance

What version of Radio do you using ? Try to upgrade to the last version.

my BA info is as follows
ROM version 5.60.00 WWE
radio version 1.12.00
well from where can i get the latest version of radio??

wel..i found it..and i am upgrading radio...
less see what happens

.....upgraded to 1.15.00
....no success......
im not the first one to have this problem..it ws in 2003. 2005 and now in wm 2006 now....
dunno what to do.....dont wanna throw away my pda2k

Maybe it is an hardware problem?

If your problem is in WM2003, WM5 and WM6, just get the phone to a repair or a recycle center....

but the thing is ..it was working fine....
and after installing a resh rom...it works for like 2 days with no problem...
im sure that its not hardware issue....
its the same problem....which everyone esle is having in this forum..abt signal dropping...dun think tat this harware problem can come to lot ov ppl at the same time...

the problem is with the phone company...
my pda2k also gives me similar problems...
but when i'm travelling to some other countries and using a local sim card there... i do not see any such problem... even while roaming sometimes... i do not see any problem with the current sim card.
i think it is the home service provider which has the problem.

If you have signal dropping, replace the flex cable.
The flex cable signal dropping is a common problem to any slide phone.
In fact I slide the phone halfway to test the signal if it will drop or not.
No signal drop means good flex cable.
Same case with Nokias and other phones.
I've had my friend's BA flex cable replaced and signal drop is solved.

also, one old battery can do that issue.
with my older battery, it used to cut connections sometimes. with the new one, keep connection.

hmm...but the thing is...that this fone was working fine in my country i.e Pakistan..but its giving problem here in canada.......and it actually came from canada before....
i dont know what to do....there were also issues like that with my imate-Pocket pc before...and now same is with PDA2k...
i have chaged a lot of sims...but no success.......

I personally believe that there is a bug on the radio dll.
If you are using WM2003, try this workaround to see if it helps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340557
In your case, activate only the 1.900Mhz band or the 850 / 1900 band only. I believe that the former is better, though.
I've been only using it for the last 2 days, but so far so good.
JP

Well same problem here in Bulgaria. We have 3 Telecoms. Unfortunately i have subscription to one of them and some times like every couple of months I have the same problem. Green light blinking, but when someone is calling me - out of service. It rings, but after i pick up - it drops the call and gives "No service" This last for about a day or so. When i switch sim cards to another service provider - it works fine. The same thing happens when I travel from one town to another. I thing this is due to poor software configuration in the GSM towers. Overall for three years this happens to me like 10-15 times for couple of hours to one day. And I have this problem only with one provider only. No work around as far as i know.. Sorry

signal problem partially solved.
JPBRA said:
I personally believe that there is a bug on the radio dll.
If you are using WM2003, try this workaround to see if it helps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340557
In your case, activate only the 1.900Mhz band or the 850 / 1900 band only. I believe that the former is better, though.
I've been only using it for the last 2 days, but so far so good.
JP
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Guys,
Definitely the problem is software. I'm from Brazil and my operator is TIM. I tried many ROMs (at least 10) with the same symptom: if the phone misses the signal, I get into troubles to find the signal again and it keeps finding another operator instead TIM (in my case it only finds Vivo - which is 850Mhz).
After those many trials, I found a ROM that solves the problem partially. It's the PV DVH 19701 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390008&highlight=19701 )
With this ROM, it still looses the signal when on a place where the signal is not present and don't find while returning to a place which the signal is present, BUT, I just tap the antenna on the top of the screen, tap settings > network and finally tap "find network" and VOILA, the signal is back without much pain!!
One more thing is a little change on the registry according to a recommendation from Microsoft. Using one registry editor, go to:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Phone and change the value for "Features" parameter from 204c7d8 to 206c7d8. Remember that before you change, you need to choose the view mode to hexadecimal.
That's it folks...have fun!

Problem with my HTC Touch GSM connection

I need help desperately as my HTC touch unlocked phone (originally from Rogers) sometimes works (on Fido network) but most of the times it gives me the error that its Searching for the Signal and then turn the phone off and repeat the same process.
My Rom version is kwbr rom v4.5.3 wwe and Radio version is 03.39.90

I just started having the same problem today. I'm on Fido with a Rogers Touch (Elfin 128/256 MB version), with Onyx ultimate 4.5 from 5/14/09. Until today it worked great, always had the network and made/received calls every time. However today at work I noticed it was stuck on finding network, and wouldn't connect. Since then I've had it connect to the network sometimes, and about half my calls have been getting through, the other half had a few seconds of silence, no connection, followed by three beeps back on the dialer screen. I tried updating the radio, that didn't help, still the same issue. It's not the sim card, as it works 100% in my backup phone.
Anyone know what's causing this and if there's a way to fix it? I could try reflashing the rom, but I'd rather not lose all my installed programs and stuff.

Wellcome to the club. I couldnt find any solution yet
barlw said:
I just started having the same problem today. I'm on Fido with a Rogers Touch (Elfin 128/256 MB version), with Onyx ultimate 4.5 from 5/14/09. Until today it worked great, always had the network and made/received calls every time. However today at work I noticed it was stuck on finding network, and wouldn't connect. Since then I've had it connect to the network sometimes, and about half my calls have been getting through, the other half had a few seconds of silence, no connection, followed by three beeps back on the dialer screen. I tried updating the radio, that didn't help, still the same issue. It's not the sim card, as it works 100% in my backup phone.
Anyone know what's causing this and if there's a way to fix it? I could try reflashing the rom, but I'd rather not lose all my installed programs and stuff.
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I've tried reflashing the Onyx rom, as well as the Onyx 5 beta, and neither of these helped. The phone network connection is still intermittent, and when it does connect to the network it still takes a few tries before any call will dial out. I'll try completely restoring my original rom backup, but it's looking more and more likely that this is a hardware issue. If it is, how would I go about fixing it? I severely doubt it would be covered under any warranty, since I bought it used, so I'd probably have to do it myself if at all possible. Anyone know of anywhere to get parts for the Elf beyond the normal keypad/case/lcd stuff offered in most of the online parts stores?

Reflashing the original rom didn't do it either, looks like I'll have to contact HTC.

Let me know what solution they gave u.
Is your phone under warrenty?
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Reflashing the original rom didn't do it either, looks like I'll have to contact HTC.
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As I said it's a used phone so it's probably out of warranty, but I'll get in touch with the guy I bought it from and see if Rogers will repair or replace it first, then if they can't or won't do anything for me I may email HTC. I'll bump this thread when/if I have any news.

Flash to 3.21.90 radio?
Try it out.

Didnt Work either
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Flash to 3.21.90 radio?
Try it out.
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HandsomeMirza said:
Didnt Work either
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Judging from the replies, you have a bad device.
HTC Service Centre might be the best place for you.

well the problem is that i didnt purchase it with the HTC or Rogers directly.
Anyways i will contact them again lets see how it goes

You can still bring down to HTC even if you didnt purchase from them.
But it must, of course, be made by HTC.

vodafone Nederlands, 3G connection problem

I'm looking for some advice concerning 3G connection from vodafone in The Nederlands. Right after putting new simcard into my HD I started getting this annoying:
"dialled...
cannot connect for an unknown reason..."
error every time some application tried to get a 3G connection. So decided to put some new cooked ROM based on 6.5. My old one was almost 1 year old and based on 6.1.
So picked up the new Laurentius en voila, it fixed the problem.
Played around a bit with this new rom and decided to check out the XannyTech Grid 1.2.5. Played around with it for one day. Had to soft reset a couple of times cause of HTC messaging that was freezing everytime it tried to read all the txt messages that I restored plus I played around with different tweaks from Advanced Confing etc.
Anyway after all that I soft-reseted for the last time, started up an Opera and bam... connection error again. Exactly as the one before. Did a hard reset, nothing. Same problem all the time.
Anybody experienced something similar ? What do you think it could be ? Should I upgrade my radio ? My current one is 1.13. I was thinking about upgrading to 1.17 but it's very much dependent on a service provider and place so I'm wondering if there's anybody from Nederlands who could give me advice on that, maybe there's some specific version that is the best for Voda ?
thanks for support

Running vodafone in NL here and have to say im having no problems.
Been running on the 1.14 since it was available and just last week switched to the 1.17 and thats running a bit better than the 1.14.
Also i've been running a lot of roms from this place and never experienced the issue you describe.
Suppose it might be the mix of 1.13 and the rillphone dll's found in the varying roms you tried. Since the radio and rillphone dll need to be compatible and support each others functions this might cause your issues.
So concluding my guess would be to try the 1.17 radio.

Yes, as explained in the Android Thread, Voda NL has trouble with their 3G Network or Internet Connection. http://tweakers.net/nieuws/63198/vodafone-kampt-opnieuw-met-landelijke-storing-datanetwerk.html

What the HELL has this to do with Blackstone ROM development!? Come on.
Please mods, close this.

ok, looks like I should check the voda website next time. I'll upgrade the radio anyway since lots of people say that it works good for them. Thanks for help

motoko said:
ok, looks like I should check the voda website next time.
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No kidding?
Next topic is about your monthly costs are to high @ Voda?

MOD EDIT
Moved to general discussion forum as not related to rom development

@FallenSpartan
Thank you, I was too fast with my choice of discussion place, will pay more attention next time
@SeniorMembers
Looks like you should get some green tea or a massage, I heard that it helps with stress... but come to think about it I'm not very surprised by your reactions since you're probably dutch...

Dear TS,
Just look at any random dutch techsite or just contact Vodafone...
For example see:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/63198/vo...et-landelijke-storing-datanetwerk-update.html